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May 22, 2024, 09:12:35 PM
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If a gambler will continue to have that kind of mindset, he's nowhere to go. Many of his friends are going to be away from him if he has taken a loan already from them even they're paid.

Because out of the activity of being a gambler, they'll look to themselves being a partaker of their friend who's addicted and has the habit of taking loan for gambling.


Yes, you are right, if we have a friend who is a gambler, especially if he is said to be a serious addict, we must always be careful because it could be that we often borrow money from us and the money will not be returned quickly.
Sometimes, if we have a very close relationship with a friend, perhaps we will not bear the suffering he is experiencing and with compassion we are ready to help him by lending him money even if it is used for gambling.
However, we must always remember that we must be prepared to give up the money if the return does not match the promise to be paid. So, those are the consequences and risks that we will bear ourselves if we lend money to gambling friends.
It is not going to help if you tolerate him and you still lend him some money even if you understand the situation and it's okay for you that you have the idea that guy might not be able to pay.

It is not compassion if you're going to help him get some money so that he can continue to gamble. A real friend won't tolerate that but instead will educate the addicted gambler to stop it.

Whether he'll get love or hate from that addicted gambler, at least you have expressed and said the right thing to do.

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May 22, 2024, 09:58:26 PM
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It is not going to help if you tolerate him and you still lend him some money even if you understand the situation and it's okay for you that you have the idea that guy might not be able to pay.

It is not compassion if you're going to help him get some money so that he can continue to gamble. A real friend won't tolerate that but instead will educate the addicted gambler to stop it.

Whether he'll get love or hate from that addicted gambler, at least you have expressed and said the right thing to do.

If I was a friend to an addictive gambler and I am in a shoe to advise them to stop gambling, I won't hesitate or stop doing that at any minute I got the opportunity to do so. I have oftentimes try to relate the addiction of gambling to that of drug abuse, permit me if that's not true in your opinion, hence it's very difficult to survive it whenever you're an addict.

I have a friend who was a drug addict and another one who was an addict in gambling. The only difference between them was that the gambler was able to leave gambling in the long run, whereas the drug addict had to pass through rehabilitation before he stopped but they almost behave the same. Like, when they are broke, they still try to go into the practice even when it will require them to borrow money from people around them. And even after they have promised to stop, they can still hide and go back.

So, if I was a friend to an addicted gambler, I won't stop to advise and encourage him to stop, part of which is denying him the funds to play the gamble even when I have it.

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May 22, 2024, 09:59:40 PM
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It is not going to help if you tolerate him and you still lend him some money even if you understand the situation and it's okay for you that you have the idea that guy might not be able to pay.

It is not compassion if you're going to help him get some money so that he can continue to gamble. A real friend won't tolerate that but instead will educate the addicted gambler to stop it.

Whether he'll get love or hate from that addicted gambler, at least you have expressed and said the right thing to do.

If I was a friend to an addictive gambler and I am in a shoe to advise them to stop gambling, I won't hesitate or stop doing that at any minute I got the opportunity to do so. I have oftentimes try to relate the addiction of gambling to that of drug abuse, permit me if that's not true in your opinion, hence it's very difficult to survive it whenever you're an addict.

I have a friend who was a drug addict and another one who was an addict in gambling. The only difference between them was that the gambler was able to leave gambling in the long run, whereas the drug addict had to pass through rehabilitation before he stopped but they almost behave the same. Like, when they are broke, they still try to go into the practice even when it will require them to borrow money from people around them. And even after they have promised to stop, they can still hide and go back.

So, if I was a friend to an addicted gambler, I won't stop to advise and encourage him to stop, part of which is denying him the funds to play the gamble even when I have it.
On the moment that you are addicted, you wont really be listening into any advise and we do know all of that. It would really be that too easy to make out some suggestions that you should be telling this and that
but in the end you are the ones who would really be needing to have that kind of self realization and save up yourself on the effect of gambling addiction. When you do gamble then only make use of the amount
on which it is really just that an extra. Never ever make yourself that spending which is more than on what you do earn or even that trying out to make use of your life savings which it is the most foolish thing to be done. If you dont have that money to play then why would really be that deciding to play which is more than that you can afford to lose?

It would really be that impossible that you wont really be able to notice out that you are already that losing that much on which it would really be something that affecting your finances already.
It all matters on someones sensibility and common sense that you are losing that much and this is something that you must avoid at all cost because spending which is more that
on what you can afford to lose will really be that resulting into a disaster if things doesnt really that handled out well.
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May 22, 2024, 10:35:43 PM
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I see no reason giving out loans to a friend who is not credit worthy, no matter the situation the person is in and the level of relationship that exists. A person who has a very low income should work hard to increase his income. If he thinks gambling is the only way out, then he is just being lazy and irresponsible. Even if he must gamble, he or she should at least work for the money he will use to gamble, instead of being indebted to lots of people.

If you know a particular person is a gambling addict and you still go ahead to loan them money, you are not only putting your money at risk, you are also making things worse for that gambler. An addicted gambler needs help to recover from his addiction and not more money he will not use well. If you feel compassion for his suffering state, help him recover from his addiction.

In that aspect you are absolutely right, I don't see any good reason to lend money to a friend who has gone too far in gambling and who already has some history as a person addicted to gambling, it is difficult because there can be a strong bond like friendship, but sometimes friendship must be separated from business, from money, and even more so when there is some uncertainty about your financial situation and how it can affect the relationship later, sometimes friendship is damaged by incidents with money, and well, that's not the case. It's a very good design, sometimes it's hard to say No to a friend and tell them the real reason, because I know they won't take it well, but sometimes it's for the good of that friend.

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May 22, 2024, 11:30:09 PM
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Gambling is a pastime and there is no need to take extra stress especially when a gambler borrows money from others to bet on gambling, the pressure in India to pay back the loan is likely to cause him mental breakdown. Because if he loses in the gambling bet, he has to bet extra to pay the loss and no one can guarantee that he will win the bet, but there will be more chances of the gambler going bankrupt. So for the time being I would suggest that no one should gamble with gambling money loan because in this case the added pressure of paying the loan will cause mental disorder for that gambler.

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May 22, 2024, 11:49:49 PM
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In that aspect you are absolutely right, I don't see any good reason to lend money to a friend who has gone too far in gambling and who already has some history as a person addicted to gambling, it is difficult because there can be a strong bond like friendship, but sometimes friendship must be separated from business, from money, and even more so when there is some uncertainty about your financial situation and how it can affect the relationship later, sometimes friendship is damaged by incidents with money, and well, that's not the case. It's a very good design, sometimes it's hard to say No to a friend and tell them the real reason, because I know they won't take it well, but sometimes it's for the good of that friend.
Yes, no good reasons to lend money to people who want to use it for gambling. Even if the people are our friends, it is better to avoid lending them money. We are gamblers, we know it is a bad idea to lend other gamblers money. They must hope to chase their losses, they will use the money to try winning the games as many as possible. But we know, it is impossible!  Grin

The idea to recover the losses by using more funds from loan is the wrong way. If we lend the money to them, it means we support them to do it. I also have some stories about this. All of them ended up with bad stories. You're right, it possibly breaks friendship or partnerships in our business. So, it is better to stay away from lending other people money for gambling.

Gambling is a pastime and there is no need to take extra stress especially when a gambler borrows money from others to bet on gambling, the pressure in India to pay back the loan is likely to cause him mental breakdown. Because if he loses in the gambling bet, he has to bet extra to pay the loss and no one can guarantee that he will win the bet, but there will be more chances of the gambler going bankrupt. So for the time being I would suggest that no one should gamble with gambling money loan because in this case the added pressure of paying the loan will cause mental disorder for that gambler.
True. It is mostly just for fun, why we must be so stressed. Loan money is not needed, it won't make a higher chance to win the gambling games. You are right, we must think the risks if we use loan money. It will be worse if we get other losses when we use loan money. Instead of recovering the previous losses, it just add a new burden for debt repayment. Sure, this may lead to the mental problems if we continue it. So, just stop to do it because it won't help at all. It even makes it more complicated.


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May 22, 2024, 11:56:47 PM
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For too many reasons it is foolish to borrow money to gamble. I don’t like borrow money and even when I do, I can’t risk it because you may try to be smart to double it and you end up giving the money to the casino like it’s charity and you will still have to pay up for money you never used to achieve anything meaningful. Gambling should be done out of your pocket and an amount you can afford to lose.

When it comes to gambling some people are wise enough not to spend too much money on it but some people don’t think about that, gambling is not bad to play but you have to be capable of playing it or you have the money to play it, I have seen many people who gamble but they don’t have work, and that is why you will see many of them got bullied on the public by calling them thieves, gambling can lead someone life to steal but that is also the wish of those who don’t want to work but want to have the money to gamble, many married men today are attracted to gambling and when it comes to the responsibility of the family they will not have the money all the name of gambling.

Taking risks is part of human life because no matter how it is you have to take risks in something you believe to make it but not in gambling ways, gambling pays but not for everyone and no matter how some people play gamble they can not get what they want because everyone has where he or she is destined to make money, I did not say gambling is not good, it is very good but not for people that don’t have money and still want to gamble by force.

Yes gambling is not bad to play. The issue starts from the addiction. Most players are addicted and don’t stop till they’ve lost a lot. While taking risk it’s usual and it’s just one of them, there’s a thing as calculated risk. No one should gamble too large than what they can or an amount that will make them go bankrupt or maybe their life savings. It doesn’t matter how sure you are that you will win because those who have lost to gambling expected to win too.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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May 23, 2024, 12:43:30 AM
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It is not going to help if you tolerate him and you still lend him some money even if you understand the situation and it's okay for you that you have the idea that guy might not be able to pay.

It is not compassion if you're going to help him get some money so that he can continue to gamble. A real friend won't tolerate that but instead will educate the addicted gambler to stop it.

Whether he'll get love or hate from that addicted gambler, at least you have expressed and said the right thing to do.

If I was a friend to an addictive gambler and I am in a shoe to advise them to stop gambling, I won't hesitate or stop doing that at any minute I got the opportunity to do so. I have oftentimes try to relate the addiction of gambling to that of drug abuse, permit me if that's not true in your opinion, hence it's very difficult to survive it whenever you're an addict.

I have a friend who was a drug addict and another one who was an addict in gambling. The only difference between them was that the gambler was able to leave gambling in the long run, whereas the drug addict had to pass through rehabilitation before he stopped but they almost behave the same. Like, when they are broke, they still try to go into the practice even when it will require them to borrow money from people around them. And even after they have promised to stop, they can still hide and go back.

So, if I was a friend to an addicted gambler, I won't stop to advise and encourage him to stop, part of which is denying him the funds to play the gamble even when I have it.
We shouldn't tolerate friends like them because we're not helping them at all. I know that some friends really have soft heart and they can be taken as advantage by that addicted gambler.

If you can't help yourself but to help them still, give them food or anything in kind but not money because they will reason out that they need this and that.

But in reality, they're only making a reason so that they can still have funds to gamble. You know, an addicted gambler will do anything in their capacity and reasoning.

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May 23, 2024, 01:33:21 AM
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If a gambler will continue to have that kind of mindset, he's nowhere to go. Many of his friends are going to be away from him if he has taken a loan already from them even they're paid.

Because out of the activity of being a gambler, they'll look to themselves being a partaker of their friend who's addicted and has the habit of taking loan for gambling.


Yes, you are right, if we have a friend who is a gambler, especially if he is said to be a serious addict, we must always be careful because it could be that we often borrow money from us and the money will not be returned quickly.
Sometimes, if we have a very close relationship with a friend, perhaps we will not bear the suffering he is experiencing and with compassion we are ready to help him by lending him money even if it is used for gambling.
However, we must always remember that we must be prepared to give up the money if the return does not match the promise to be paid. So, those are the consequences and risks that we will bear ourselves if we lend money to gambling friends.
It is not going to help if you tolerate him and you still lend him some money even if you understand the situation and it's okay for you that you have the idea that guy might not be able to pay.

It is not compassion if you're going to help him get some money so that he can continue to gamble. A real friend won't tolerate that but instead will educate the addicted gambler to stop it.

Whether he'll get love or hate from that addicted gambler, at least you have expressed and said the right thing to do.

It's true, as true friends we should be able to give good advice and advice to the gambler, but I don't think all true friends are willing to give good advice because the worry is whether the gambler will accept good advice from us if he can't accept it. then it will become a new problem between friendships, right?
And in my opinion, the step we have to take is to give a small loan only once if he can't and give an agreement that if he can't pay it back as promised then next time he won't be given another loan so that in this way the gambler immediately understands and become aware immediately so you can reduce your gambling addiction slowly.

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May 23, 2024, 03:17:24 AM
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With you knowing this elements, you won't bother to go to the extreme of borrowing money to gamble. So have you borrowed money to gamble? If you do please take notes of this and stop it.

This is one of the reasons why many countries and some websites prohibit the use of credit cards for sports betting: The chance of this never being paid is extremely high!
They always say to only play what you are willing to lose.
So I ask you: What makes a person bet something they should never lose? It's insane for someone to bet with something that isn't theirs, believing that this is normal.
This is like spending money on cigarettes, alcohol or prostitutes... something that gives you momentary pleasure, but the damage will haunt you for a few days, weeks, months, years or even your entire life.

Ultimately, nothing that is said is capable of raising awareness among those who borrow money to bet. People like this believe that the chances of winning are high, but if they lose, it's "okay" to make a sacrifice later.

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May 23, 2024, 03:35:47 AM
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Gambling is very different from investing and actually risking money to make a profit. I think some people think of it as business and they are out to really borrow money from banks and then use it to gamble. It's not going to be a wise thing if it's gambling but if it's for other things like trading (with risk management and smart trading) or investing in a business would be good.

If you are really itching to gamble, then just do the imaginary gambling or just software that you could download and feel that high without using real money.

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May 23, 2024, 05:03:44 AM
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Yes gambling is not bad to play. The issue starts from the addiction. Most players are addicted and don’t stop till they’ve lost a lot. While taking risk it’s usual and it’s just one of them, there’s a thing as calculated risk. No one should gamble too large than what they can or an amount that will make them go bankrupt or maybe their life savings. It doesn’t matter how sure you are that you will win because those who have lost to gambling expected to win too.
Gambling is not bad if they can do it with good self-control, but many people who gamble cannot control themselves well, which makes them addicted to gambling which leads them to gamble without looking at their financial side. Those who are addicted can of course do things that have big risks that can harm themselves and even other people, remembering that people who are addicted to gambling will usually have a more stubborn nature so they will only focus on the things they want, and by becoming addicted to it they just want to keep betting until they get to the desired point.
It's not natural and they shouldn't bet too big or beyond their financial means, because that will only make things more difficult for them, but the addiction that has stuck is difficult to get rid of so they won't be able to stop easily even though they have experienced many losses in gambling. with the belief that they can win or are more confident that they can win, which can encourage them to continue gambling and can even borrow money to gamble when their finances run out or go bankrupt.

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May 23, 2024, 08:34:38 AM
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Yes gambling is not bad to play. The issue starts from the addiction. Most players are addicted and don’t stop till they’ve lost a lot. While taking risk it’s usual and it’s just one of them, there’s a thing as calculated risk. No one should gamble too large than what they can or an amount that will make them go bankrupt or maybe their life savings. It doesn’t matter how sure you are that you will win because those who have lost to gambling expected to win too.
Gambling is not bad if they can do it with good self-control, but many people who gamble cannot control themselves well, which makes them addicted to gambling which leads them to gamble without looking at their financial side. Those who are addicted can of course do things that have big risks that can harm themselves and even other people, remembering that people who are addicted to gambling will usually have a more stubborn nature so they will only focus on the things they want, and by becoming addicted to it they just want to keep betting until they get to the desired point.
It's not natural and they shouldn't bet too big or beyond their financial means, because that will only make things more difficult for them, but the addiction that has stuck is difficult to get rid of so they won't be able to stop easily even though they have experienced many losses in gambling. with the belief that they can win or are more confident that they can win, which can encourage them to continue gambling and can even borrow money to gamble when their finances run out or go bankrupt.
If one can't control himself in gambling, he will lose. Because in gambling no one cannot survive without self-control. When a gambler loses, it is a natural desire to recover his lost money. But when that recovery effort goes beyond limitation, it is no longer normal. Then the negative effects of gambling began to appear quickly. The addicted gambler never holds back to manage his gambling. If necessary, he borrows money and continues his gambling until the money is gone. Later, when he loses the money he borrowed, he gets a glimpse of his addiction. But those who cannot calm down then do not dare to lose their last wealth. If you are addicted to gambling, you have to lose from it, but the life of those who gamble by loan money their life becomes miserable very quickly.

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May 23, 2024, 10:30:45 AM
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It is not going to help if you tolerate him and you still lend him some money even if you understand the situation and it's okay for you that you have the idea that guy might not be able to pay.

It is not compassion if you're going to help him get some money so that he can continue to gamble. A real friend won't tolerate that but instead will educate the addicted gambler to stop it.

Whether he'll get love or hate from that addicted gambler, at least you have expressed and said the right thing to do.

It's true, as true friends we should be able to give good advice and advice to the gambler, but I don't think all true friends are willing to give good advice because the worry is whether the gambler will accept good advice from us if he can't accept it. then it will become a new problem between friendships, right?
IMHO, the gambler will eventually realize that the care is there from the true friend that suggests him to quit and doesn't tolerate his addiction.

He may think as much as he can that he's not getting help and they're not real friends. But as we have said, real friends will never tolerate their friends for their bad actions.

And those actions are going to put them into a bad situation that they may have hard time of getting out.

And in my opinion, the step we have to take is to give a small loan only once if he can't and give an agreement that if he can't pay it back as promised then next time he won't be given another loan so that in this way the gambler immediately understands and become aware immediately so you can reduce your gambling addiction slowly.
No, I don't think it's a good idea. Just never grant him any money or loan.

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In fact, these tips and rules written by the OP in capital letters should not be ignored. This is written from the vast experience of those who tried to borrow money for the game. At first glance, it seems that borrowing money to play is harmless, but it is not. This is just playing with fire that no one needs to do. Probably at a younger age I could do this, but now I will never lend money for a game because I know how it works. Probably this is intended for those who do not understand many things and do not attach much importance to it, but there have already been thousands of such clever people who tried to take other people’s money for the game and manage it as their own, now they have to give it back not only for months, but also for years. I want to say only one thing, just play with your own money, this is the most important advice of all that the OP mentioned and I am glad that such topics are being created on our forum. Perhaps this will save a few players.

Lol most people are fond of that , borrowing money to gamble, which is very wrong. Because at first what lead you to have the thought of borrowing money to gamble,it may be due the fact that you have loss yours when gambling. So are sure are you that you ain't going to lose the money you borrowed. Because is easier to lose what you have and move on with it than to lose someone else's money. Because at first you won't be able to move on expecially when the money you borrowed is way higher than the one you are expecting from your salary .so such act may endup affecting one negatively so to avoid falling In such situation is better not to borrow and gamble with what you have , not just what you have what you can actually afford to lose.
I personally know players who beg for money, but I understand that if he loses, he will have nothing to give me. Just recently, I lent money to one player because I have known him for a long time and tried to help him out in a difficult situation, but it was a mistake. We should never lend money, even to those we know well or to friends, this is the best way to become enemies, so there will definitely come a time when he will not be able to give this money to us and will tell all sorts of nonsense just to stall for time. I understand this very well now and recommend that others think about it.

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May 23, 2024, 02:05:25 PM
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With you knowing this elements, you won't bother to go to the extreme of borrowing money to gamble. So have you borrowed money to gamble? If you do please take notes of this and stop it.

As far as I know my friends who are fond of gambling and batting: they have always borrowed money and cryptocurrencies to recoup.
Unfortunately, all gamblers actually do this, because problem gamblers are affected by the effect of "devaluing the value of money." A troubled gambler believes that it is easy to recoup, because luck awaits around the corner, you only have to invest a little money in gambling. It's like a donkey running after a carrot, but it's unclear when it will reach it, and whether it will succeed at all. But money is very important in our lives and is of paramount importance.
We must always remember the value of this.

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May 23, 2024, 03:06:00 PM
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Lol most people are fond of that , borrowing money to gamble, which is very wrong. Because at first what lead you to have the thought of borrowing money to gamble,it may be due the fact that you have loss yours when gambling. So are sure are you that you ain't going to lose the money you borrowed. Because is easier to lose what you have and move on with it than to lose someone else's money. Because at first you won't be able to move on expecially when the money you borrowed is way higher than the one you are expecting from your salary .so such act may endup affecting one negatively so to avoid falling In such situation is better not to borrow and gamble with what you have , not just what you have what you can actually afford to lose.
I personally know players who beg for money, but I understand that if he loses, he will have nothing to give me. Just recently, I lent money to one player because I have known him for a long time and tried to help him out in a difficult situation, but it was a mistake. We should never lend money, even to those we know well or to friends, this is the best way to become enemies, so there will definitely come a time when he will not be able to give this money to us and will tell all sorts of nonsense just to stall for time. I understand this very well now and recommend that others think about it.

Yes of course it is a mistake that should not be done, on the other hand it is actually not a problem to give or lend money to other people especially one of our friends who we have known for a long time but I think it should only be done if they use it for things that are reasonable, such as for the benefit of their lives such as buying something or for medical expenses and make sure that they are not a gambler.

But if the scenario is that you already know that they are a gambler and the purpose of the loan is to gamble then obviously it is a mistake, one of the reasons why it is better not to lend it is because as we know that a gambler who has dared to make a loan just to gamble then most likely they are already quite addicted, and we can also conclude that borrowing money just to gamble is too much which in gambling if a gambler always forces something most likely they must be addicted. In addition, the negative impact is clear that most likely you will not get your money back, because of course when they have personal money then their main priority is to gamble and not to pay debts, and another negative impact of lending money to friends to use gambling can actually trigger the possibility of problems that can make your friendship relationship become tenuous.

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For too many reasons it is foolish to borrow money to gamble. I don’t like borrow money and even when I do, I can’t risk it because you may try to be smart to double it and you end up giving the money to the casino like it’s charity and you will still have to pay up for money you never used to achieve anything meaningful. Gambling should be done out of your pocket and an amount you can afford to lose.

Borrowing money to gamble is the weirdest thing anyone could think of at any moment,but advising an addicted gamblers would be like a waste of time. A friend of mine use to come to me for an assistant little did I know he wanted using it for gambling,it went on this he told me he wanted using it to add to a business and would pay back and to cut it short.he came back to me again asking for another assistant and I was with someone at that moment,so it was the other guy that told me he sees him always at the betting shop gambling all day.

I laughed and realized at that point and then told him I don't have any money to borrow him,since he can't control his gambling habits I won't be the one to promote is addiction.so it's a lesson to all not to borrow anywhere to gamble or keep gambling.

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May 23, 2024, 03:34:44 PM
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Gambling is very different from investing and actually risking money to make a profit. I think some people think of it as business and they are out to really borrow money from banks and then use it to gamble. It's not going to be a wise thing if it's gambling but if it's for other things like trading (with risk management and smart trading) or investing in a business would be good.

If you are really itching to gamble, then just do the imaginary gambling or just software that you could download and feel that high without using real money.
That will not be recommended to borrow money from the bank or other people but some people still do that because they thinks that they can wins some money from gambling. Gambling is not business for people but gambling is just a way to have fun by playing gambling games. If they lucky, they will gets some money but they can't use gambling as a source of income. It's better they do other thing that can gives money instead to playing gambling. It's not better to risking money to make a profit from gambling because they will still difficult to win but they will lose their money and that's already happens to many people. People must knows the risks of borrow money to be used for playing gambling so they will not choose that way instead just uses the money they can afford to lose. That will prevents them from the big lose.

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May 23, 2024, 03:37:49 PM
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I will advise that we should not allow for the introduction of our unethical way of reasonings and behaviors come into how we gamble or affect the pattern and mentality we have towards gambling, we are expected to gamble responsibly, not only that, we should not force ourself to gamble when it's not the right time for us to do so, such could be when we don't have enough money to be used for gambling, there is no need to borrow, we should learn to work and earn and use from that for gambling purpose and we should not also disappoint others by engaging in fund mismanagement before we can use money for gambling, we should therefore distance ourself from anything decision that can cause a serious implication on us from how we gamble.


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