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May 25, 2024, 07:31:29 AM
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They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.

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May 25, 2024, 07:58:17 AM
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I think we heard it all and surely we all agree that this is not a good idea nor thinking about it every time we gamble.
 
If we are a responsible gambler, we don't have to compromise finances for the sake of gambling. Not that I call this useless stuff but it is not the necessary thing that we need to fund money.

This is all about funds management and keeping in mind that gambling ensures nothing but more losses. I am a gambler but just use only my extra money.
I believe that changing our gambling habits by minimizing our time spent and funds allocation is a good way of dealing with this.
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May 25, 2024, 08:18:50 AM
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Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
It would be very difficult to help a greedy and same time addicted gambler, such individual would need constant therapy and avoid things that would expose him/her from gambling for a long period. Greed has played a role in making many individuals addicted become addicted to gambling, for instance an individual who wins and tries to double his profit then lose and start chasing loses, would likely be very addicted to it.

 And as we know it's mostly someone who's addicted to gambling that would be so desperate to loan money for gambling, I mean a responsible gambler won't even think of such cause they know the consequences and how it could affect them. On a serious note, I'll be very pained to discover that a close friend who I loaned some money used it to gamble and I'll have second thoughts whenever they come back for help again.



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May 25, 2024, 10:27:33 AM
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They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
Greedy gamblers will not thinks about the other thinks because they only focus with their gambling activity and will prepare more money to keeps playing gambling. Even if they borrow money from other people, that will be okay for them and they can makes thousand reasons to those who wants to lend them money. If one person don't wants to helps them, they will search the other people until they can gets person that will lend some money. It will not recommended to borrow other people money because if we don't how to pay the money back, that will just gives a problem. Other people will chase us and asks for that money and more problems will to us if we can't repay the money. That's why we must not borrow money just to playing gambling because the risks is big.

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May 25, 2024, 11:35:22 AM
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They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.

Well even I still believe that greedy gamblers can be saved, many people just have repulsive attitude towards gambling and their first instinct is to chase their loses when they feel they are losing, the solution to this is bankroll management, bankroll management can help even the gambling addict manage himself and his personal finance without having to result to extreme solution like borrowing extra money to gamble.

But the issue is that some persons won't listen and would only focus on playing more games, I've even over heard someone saying that someday would be his turn, so instead of stopping his continues gambling habits he uses the excuse to continue.

Borrowing money to gamble is not right and it's a sign thar you Don't understand money or respect your financial health, cause gambling is risky and is uncertain, its wring to borrow to gamble cause if you lose the money, you just got a debt to pay.

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May 25, 2024, 11:51:53 AM
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They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
Greedy gamblers will not thinks about the other thinks because they only focus with their gambling activity and will prepare more money to keeps playing gambling. Even if they borrow money from other people, that will be okay for them and they can makes thousand reasons to those who wants to lend them money. If one person don't wants to helps them, they will search the other people until they can gets person that will lend some money. It will not recommended to borrow other people money because if we don't how to pay the money back, that will just gives a problem. Other people will chase us and asks for that money and more problems will to us if we can't repay the money. That's why we must not borrow money just to playing gambling because the risks is big.
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May 25, 2024, 12:18:16 PM
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Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
Greedy gamblers will not thinks about the other thinks because they only focus with their gambling activity and will prepare more money to keeps playing gambling. Even if they borrow money from other people, that will be okay for them and they can makes thousand reasons to those who wants to lend them money. If one person don't wants to helps them, they will search the other people until they can gets person that will lend some money. It will not recommended to borrow other people money because if we don't how to pay the money back, that will just gives a problem. Other people will chase us and asks for that money and more problems will to us if we can't repay the money. That's why we must not borrow money just to playing gambling because the risks is big.

Yes, there is no sense of satisfaction for a greedy gambler or those who always apply greed in themselves when engaging in gambling, as you say that most likely they will only continue to maximize their gambling capital with the following intentions and goals in the hope of getting a much larger number of wins, and yes it is true that not a few of them always make loans as an alternative to funding their gambling activities, when in fact they themselves do not think about how they pay for it, but with the belief that they will definitely win then they do not hesitate to take some loans to other people or services.

And this is also the trigger why a gambler can fall into or get into debt. And it is a fact that once a gambler has tried borrowing money to gamble, it is likely that they will find it difficult to get out of the habit of borrowing, and the scenario is usually that they will borrow more money from other people with a larger amount and use some of the money to pay off the previous debt and some of the money to gamble and this is where various bad problems will occur that can cause significant stress, and this is also the reason why borrowing money to gamble is really not recommended.

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Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior,
Are there really not greedy gamblers? Any player wants to get an (easy) win, and it is greed that stimulates gambling. And gambling addiction is the next level of gambling, which all players will definitely step on if they don’t give up this bad habit called gambling in time.
 
and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly.
It seems to me that you are romanticizing. Gambling addicts are practically incapable of regret and awareness, and they only want to get the next dose of sensations (like an addict) from gambling. What did you expect from people with a distorted mental and emotional state?

Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
Of course, as soon as problems accumulate, you immediately want to share this with the people around you. Smiley But would a gambler remember these people if he hit the jackpot?

But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is permissible to help only as much as you are willing to donate (give for free). And helping an addicted gambler so that he continues to lose (already your money) looks, to put it mildly, irrational.

It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
It is permissible to borrow, but only as much as you can repay. More often than not, people like to borrow but not repay, and this is not necessarily related to gambling. It’s just that in addicted gamblers it reaches the pathological stage.

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They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
There are warnings and payouts for borrowing money, along with consequences, but getting stuck and needing a little something to get out of, you are not a compulsive gambler but you still want a loan immediately when you still know you can afford it, it's great when friends or services have an easy process. The biggest difference is the shortfall in money every month and no additional income, gambling is short-term thinking to compensate, then loans appear, larger deficits lead to larger loans, a terrifying prospect, so we can lose gambling but don't get involved in loans when it's an incremental iterative process

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May 25, 2024, 03:41:14 PM
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If we are a responsible gambler, we don't have to compromise finances for the sake of gambling. Not that I call this useless stuff but it is not the necessary thing that we need to fund money.

This is all about funds management and keeping in mind that gambling ensures nothing but more losses. I am a gambler but just use only my extra money.
I believe that changing our gambling habits by minimizing our time spent and funds allocation is a good way of dealing with this.

A friend once said that everyone has a level of risk tolerance that they can accommodate and that it doesn't really matter if someone takes out a loan to gamble or not. He further said that "what really matters is if they can handle the risk attached to such an attitude." 

I brought this up because some people believe that using loan money to gamble is not bad at all, and believe me, we all have different opinions about this issue. As for me, gambling with money that does not belong to you is against my principles, but something someone else can consider is a very cool thing. 

Even if someone must gamble with loan money, they should have another source of repayment for that loan. 

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I think we heard it all and surely we all agree that this is not a good idea nor thinking about it every time we gamble.
 
If we are a responsible gambler, we don't have to compromise finances for the sake of gambling. Not that I call this useless stuff but it is not the necessary thing that we need to fund money.

This is all about funds management and keeping in mind that gambling ensures nothing but more losses. I am a gambler but just use only my extra money.
I believe that changing our gambling habits by minimizing our time spent and funds allocation is a good way of dealing with this.
Even though there's a high possibility of winning but still its not a good decision that we will borrow some money to someone else because we use that money in gambling. And we are all know that  in gambling we can't win every time in short there's  a chance that we will loss even though the chance is too high but if we are unlucky then we wont win what ever we do. So borrowing some money is not a good one.
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I think we heard it all and surely we all agree that this is not a good idea nor thinking about it every time we gamble.
 
If we are a responsible gambler, we don't have to compromise finances for the sake of gambling. Not that I call this useless stuff but it is not the necessary thing that we need to fund money.

This is all about funds management and keeping in mind that gambling ensures nothing but more losses. I am a gambler but just use only my extra money.
I believe that changing our gambling habits by minimizing our time spent and funds allocation is a good way of dealing with this.
Even though there's a high possibility of winning but still its not a good decision that we will borrow some money to someone else because we use that money in gambling. And we are all know that  in gambling we can't win every time in short there's  a chance that we will loss even though the chance is too high but if we are unlucky then we wont win what ever we do. So borrowing some money is not a good one.

Of course, borrowing money is the worst idea if it is done by a gambler, and you have already said that one of the reasons is because we will not always be able to win in gambling because after all the possibility of losing will always be a definite possibility.

This means that borrowing money just to gamble is a bad idea that in the end will only make them end up with a lot of regrets, and I think it really doesn't make sense to prioritize an activity that is only a "probability" or that doesn't have the certainty of always being able to win. where you also said that we will only be able to be happy when we are lucky and that is true.

I think many people have said that it is better to use gambling as a place to find entertainment when we are bored, and many have also said not to put too much seriousness and hope in gambling and that is true because after all there is absolutely no guarantee that you will always win.

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A friend once said that everyone has a level of risk tolerance that they can accommodate and that it doesn't really matter if someone takes out a loan to gamble or not. He further said that "what really matters is if they can handle the risk attached to such an attitude." 

I brought this up because some people believe that using loan money to gamble is not bad at all, and believe me, we all have different opinions about this issue. As for me, gambling with money that does not belong to you is against my principles, but something someone else can consider is a very cool thing. 

Even if someone must gamble with loan money, they should have another source of repayment for that loan. 

I can agree to what your friend said if, the person borrowing the money is not going to gamble with it on casino games or virtual football games. Here is my reason, all these casino and virtual games are being played or organised by the casino itself based on the programming code, but in full they are programmed in a way that the house will always be on the wining side. But when we talk about real football gambling, this is were the risk tolerance comes in you borrowing should be within your risk tolerance provided you have a source of income, because if you don't have then, you shouldn't be thinking of borrowing in the first place.

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Money borrowing is like dancing with Satan. One mistake spells disaster. To be honest, banks don't care about you. Your interest payments sustain these enterprises. You're risking more than a few bucks when you borrow, especially for gaming. You're risking everything financially. All loans are potential disasters disguised as aid. Consider that if you can't pay it back, you risk bad credit, collection harassment, and bankruptcy. Is borrowing ever wise? You can, but be wise. You must have a sound repayment plan before taking out a loan. If your repayment method rely on anything uncertain, like winning large at the casino, you're doomed

Until now i have not heard of anyone who has succeeded in gambling with borrowed money, most of them have actually lost big because of debt + gambling, this is a dangerous thing because usually our minds will not focus when we have debt and feel pressured to pay it off in fast time, the pressure of gambling and the pressure of debt will only make a gambling player suffer big losses and this happens not only to one gambler but to many gamblers.
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Money borrowing is like dancing with Satan. One mistake spells disaster. To be honest, banks don't care about you. Your interest payments sustain these enterprises. You're risking more than a few bucks when you borrow, especially for gaming. You're risking everything financially. All loans are potential disasters disguised as aid. Consider that if you can't pay it back, you risk bad credit, collection harassment, and bankruptcy. Is borrowing ever wise? You can, but be wise. You must have a sound repayment plan before taking out a loan. If your repayment method rely on anything uncertain, like winning large at the casino, you're doomed

Until now i have not heard of anyone who has succeeded in gambling with borrowed money, most of them have actually lost big because of debt + gambling, this is a dangerous thing because usually our minds will not focus when we have debt and feel pressured to pay it off in fast time, the pressure of gambling and the pressure of debt will only make a gambling player suffer big losses and this happens not only to one gambler but to many gamblers.
Borrowed or not, it would really be still ending up on the same thing on which you would really be that losing big time, as if this had become the most common scenario or condition on which a particular gambler would really be able to experience is on the moment that they would really be dealing up with gambling on which we do know that there's no way that they could be able to avoid that losing condition on which it would really be that a normal phase for you to have that kind of moment because gambling is really just that for fun and the odds is always against us and this is why its never been that ideal that you should prolong yourself on playing.
How much more into those individuals who do really make up some consideration on trying out to borrow money just for them to play?

You are really just that like on putting up a gun into your head or simply making up some suicide on the moment that you do keep on piling up your loans because you do gamble that much.
On the moment that you do consider out on taking up some loan then its understandable that you had already spent out your life savings on this kind of moment or condition on which this is really that absurd for a
certain individual for them to do such thing.We do know that it cant really be just that too easy to win up towards gambling and come to think that its been that just for the sake of fun
and not for earning income.

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May 25, 2024, 10:34:03 PM
 #256

For too many reasons it is foolish to borrow money to gamble. I don’t like borrow money and even when I do, I can’t risk it because you may try to be smart to double it and you end up giving the money to the casino like it’s charity and you will still have to pay up for money you never used to achieve anything meaningful. Gambling should be done out of your pocket and an amount you can afford to lose.

When it comes to gambling some people are wise enough not to spend too much money on it but some people don’t think about that, gambling is not bad to play but you have to be capable of playing it or you have the money to play it, I have seen many people who gamble but they don’t have work, and that is why you will see many of them got bullied on the public by calling them thieves, gambling can lead someone life to steal but that is also the wish of those who don’t want to work but want to have the money to gamble, many married men today are attracted to gambling and when it comes to the responsibility of the family they will not have the money all the name of gambling.

Taking risks is part of human life because no matter how it is you have to take risks in something you believe to make it but not in gambling ways, gambling pays but not for everyone and no matter how some people play gamble they can not get what they want because everyone has where he or she is destined to make money, I did not say gambling is not good, it is very good but not for people that don’t have money and still want to gamble by force.

Yes gambling is not bad to play. The issue starts from the addiction. Most players are addicted and don’t stop till they’ve lost a lot. While taking risk it’s usual and it’s just one of them, there’s a thing as calculated risk. No one should gamble too large than what they can or an amount that will make them go bankrupt or maybe their life savings. It doesn’t matter how sure you are that you will win because those who have lost to gambling expected to win too.
Gambling is an interesting addiction because you have to be completely broke to continue the high you're getting. When starting gambling you probably have some expendable assets to bet on. Gambling is bad for gamblers who cannot control themselves to gamble. Responsible gamblers can be seen to be in control so that there are no ill effects of gambling. There is no exact guarantee of winning here so it is better not to take risks.

As people would say, “if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen”. Not everyone is meant to be in the kitchen. Just because your friend is doing good with gambling doesn’t mean you have to join him. Look for what works for you and do it. Some of us can relate that there are things that work for us but don’t work for others. It’s because we’re different people after all. It could work better for someone else just because they know to manage risk, or know when to call it quits.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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May 25, 2024, 10:46:06 PM
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This topic would fit in the same realm of placing stock/equity trades on margin.  One of the most important lessons I teach my clients as a financial advisor is to never get in over their heads. Borrowing money / betting on margin is a dangerous and slippery slope, and one where there's no guarantee on the other end of things.  Bet smart and responsible.  There's no such thing as a guarantee.

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There is never a place where it is advised to borrow money for gambling. If anybody forms such habit surely that person is bound to fail or become doomed in the shortest period of time. Gambling should be played in accordance with a person capital intensity. We should learn how to control our emotions, if emotions is so much attached to gambling it will definitely makes a person to go contrary to the rules and may blame people for not given them a clue about it before they ventured into it.

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If someone feels they must continue to gamble then selling any (spare) assets is more likely to wake them up to any problem then borrowing.  Thats why the rule to never gamble on borrowed money should be there, many countries that allow gambling do also either strongly discourage credit use or ban it.   I dont always agree with hard rules like that but in most cases that would be a good rule to keep.

If nothing else its true that if you have to either save up or arrange to sell your spare gold chain, etc. then you got more time to consider the bet, the conditions and risks you undertake and I will argue be able better to then win.   I dont agree with rushing a bet any more then heavy drinking while gambling would seem like a good idea to me, obviously its your money but I prefer the idea of a slow burn well considered.  If I feel too tired or its just a bad bet then walking away is the win for that day.

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Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
Often gamblers who are too greedy or have a gambling addiction realize their mistake when it is too late when they need help from others about their gambling which has gotten out of control and maybe they realize when their addiction has caused them to have debts everywhere because the gambler gambled with borrowed money and at times like that People who initially cared lost respect and no longer cared about the gambler because they had initially been warned about his gambling which would likely make his situation worse in the future, let him regret his actions so he had to find his own solution to pay off his debts and hope he didn't make a mistake like that again.

Gambling with borrowed money will only make you miserable because you have to bear the burden of how to pay it back, therefore it is better to avoid gambling with borrowed money. If you don't have the money, it's better not to gamble than having to force yourself with borrowed money because if you continue the bad habit. You will be worried if you don't have money to gamble, always take out a loan so you can gamble.

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