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People are free to believe what they like based on religious or traditional beliefs, that's their business. I have always told people to think rationally rather than depending on any teachings. Most of these teachings from religious leaders are faulty since it is not based on the teachings in the Holy Books. Most of these religious followers are too lazy to read the teachings of the founders of their religion so they end up accepting the teachings of these new age teachers. The only businesses that I cannot invest in an illegal ones or the ones that promote immorality. No amount of religious teachings can convince me that investing in Bitcoin is sinful.
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May 19, 2024, 02:21:30 PM |
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I'm not saying Bitcoin is the only investment option right now but people should spread their investment in different areas not only depending on office jobs, and most importantly avoid being misled by their religious leaders.
Of course, BTC is not the only investment option available, but there are many others as well, but if it has entered the crypto world, BTC is the most trusted. We don't know what the future will look like and it should be necessary to prepare for the long term, especially if you have invested in BTC for the long term. Related to the above, I personally remain focused on the core goal of continuing to invest long-term in BTC.
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I value religion and I'm not against it, but this post is concerning those who are religious and allow it to affect their mode of thinking, most people blindly believe in false teachings by some religious leaders and think what they believe on would favour them without putting effort, well I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort towards making investments now to make their grey days work free and more easy.
I too believe in God but I don’t think that we should all leave it up to him to make our lives better. We also need to put efforts and not just leave everything into his hands. It is our life after all even if it was borrowed from him. I hate people who just keep on praying but do nothing to actually make a difference in their lives. I've overheard some false spiritual prophets mislead their audience, saying that Cryptocurrency is demonic and it's the money created through the government to mislead people to hell and that according to the holybook a general currency would be created and used by those who have the mark of the beast bla bla bla, all these are just blind informations used to mislead people I believe there were people in the stone age or time when cowries were used who would never believe fiat money would be used in the future and would be very shocked right now if they were present, so why are people still shocked and confused as the money system is now evolving to digital currency which is Cryptocurrency, which has many assets for investment especially Bitcoin.
I hope the people in the audience can identify the fault in these statement and have an opinion for themselves. They need to make their own research and stop trying to make religion and cryptocurrencies seem like opposing forces..
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In Christian, people need to give 10% of their money for God aka tithes, do you think the leader will not corrupt the money? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Similar in Islam, people are get brainwashed to believe that the leader always right, do you think the leader will not misuse his power? like selling anything that claimed to increase your merit? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Religion is important, but people should use their common sense before agree with anything.
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No amount of religious teachings can convince me that investing in Bitcoin is sinful.
Maybe religious people are having a hard time differentiating gambling from investing. Investing in bitcoin is not a gamble for we are not playing games here. Are merchants sinners? It’s literally just the buying and selling of a valuable asset in the marketplace. I do not understand how can people twist this into something sinful and dirty. Money might be considered dirty in other religions but it is something we need and can not live without if we are being honest. Not because of greed but because that is just how it works
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I agree that it's unfortunate when people are misled by someone who is spreading unhelpful if not harmful ideas under the pretence of religion. Of course, whether you're religious or not, you can work hard and try to achieve success. Religion shouldn't be against success if it means that a person is gaining resources to contribute to the community and is just generally working hard for God (an interesting interpretation of that was offered by Max Weber who argued that Protestantism and capitalism went hand-in-hand because of Protestants accept on hard work in secular world as a Christian priority). Calling Bitcoin demonic is just unhelpful and unreasonable, as the sacred books of major religions were written well before something like Bitcoin could become conceivable.
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Religious leaders are a set of people that some individuals can easily begin to follow blindly. But yet again, religious leaders do not know everything and especially do not have the information concerning proper investment. This is why it's always good to not just take the words of anyone without verifying for yourself; even if that person is a religious leader, you have to find the facts in what they are saying. Accept that not all religious leaders are genuine, and you will be able to preserve some common sense when dealing with them.
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May 19, 2024, 03:45:26 PM |
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I value religion and I'm not against it, but this post is concerning those who are religious and allow it to affect their mode of thinking, most people blindly believe in false teachings by some religious leaders and think what they believe on would favour them without putting effort, well I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort towards making investments now to make their grey days work free and more easy.
I'm a religious person and I value other people's religion but I give priority even more to humanity, that's all that matters to me, how you worship your religion is not my business and as a person that value humanity make sure you invest into your self. Not investing in today means you are actually not helping tomorrow no matter the amount of money you are making today because that source is not a guarantee that it will come forever, continuity in making money from a particular place is an bubble. A person who teaches the ways of a particular religion must have seen how life is and if there is any way they preach that investment is bad, then I will advice to stop going to such place to worship, they don't deserve your presence talk more of even your acceptance into that religion, invest today and enjoy tomorrow in peace.
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People are free to believe what they like based on religious or traditional beliefs, that's their business. I have always told people to think rationally rather than depending on any teachings. Most of these teachings from religious leaders are faulty since it is not based on the teachings in the Holy Books. Most of these religious followers are too lazy to read the teachings of the founders of their religion so they end up accepting the teachings of these new age teachers. The only businesses that I cannot invest in an illegal ones or the ones that promote immorality. No amount of religious teachings can convince me that investing in Bitcoin is sinful.
Correct, a religion should be just a way to offer spiritual guidance to its adherents, when religion goes further than that, trying to regulate every single aspect of the lives out of their believers is when things can go south, so as long as a person is not breaking the law and they are not obtaining their profits through illegal means, I am fine with whatever way in which people choose to invest their money, after all if you worked hard to get that money, it is only fair you are the sole authority that can decide what to do with it.
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Well religion they say is the opium of the masses so allot of people believe in and it affects the way they think and behave especially when it comes to religious activities because allot of religious leaders use their fellower as a business and their investment, so when it comes to making decisions religion affect it allot
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Those who want to be deceived by religion will be deceived. As for me, I hardly accept or believe in the wrong ideology of all these pastors who preach about how their members will be given to the church, not about how their members will grow financially.
Someone will hardly go to the church year to year, to listen to business ideas or get introduced to any business. What they will hear most in the church is how to give and be rich and expect God to open doors of blessings for that, without them knowing that God will bless the work of thy hands so long as the person is not lazy or doesn't kill. God is not a partial God, he blesses and reward who he wants to without minding whether the person is a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or traditionalist.
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Those who want to be deceived by religion will be deceived. As for me, I hardly accept or believe in the wrong ideology of all these pastors who preach about how their members will be given to the church, not about how their members will grow financially.
Someone will hardly go to the church year to year, to listen to business ideas or get introduced to any business. What they will hear most in the church is how to give and be rich and expect God to open doors of blessings for that, without them knowing that God will bless the work of thy hands so long as the person is not lazy or doesn't kill. God is not a partial God, he blesses and reward who he wants to without minding whether the person is a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or traditionalist.
I come from a society that's very religious to the point that most people could even believe their religious leaders over their doctors on health matters you could see people praying to get healing when they're supposed to visit the hospital for checkups, they allow those false prophets feed on their ignorance, and of course they end up paying huge sums of money to false prophets for healing and deliverance. Nowadays, in my society religion is now a means of looting peoples funds due to false teachings by bad actors who claim to be called by God, they would never advice people on business or helping them grow financially but they'll mislead them on certain things by telling ignorant Church goers to sow seeds and tithes to get blessings from God, some people instead of working hard to expand their business or investing more on it would gather the little they've earned and give to so called pastors for prayers. What surprises me is that people still fall for their wrong teachings till this point, someone would even go to the point of causing commotion amongst peaceful families, for instance telling a member that their parents or a family member are the reason why they're poor or not doing well in their business and still ask them to sow the little they have for God to bless them or for spiritual cleansing. This have been going on and many people have been victims to this especially innocent women who take their spirituality seriously, i think more awareness should be created to put an end to those false teachings by prophets that misleads people from investing in themselves, business and deceive them to sow seeds and forcefully pay tithes for their selfish interests.
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I come from a society that's very religious to the point that most people could even believe their religious leaders over their doctors on health matters you could see people praying to get healing when they're supposed to visit the hospital for checkups, they allow those false prophets feed on their ignorance, and of course they end up paying huge sums of money to false prophets for healing and deliverance. Ignorance and illiteracy are why many people are deceived by these conmen. The people who tell you not to go to the hospital to seek medical attention secretly visit the best hospitals in the world. The people who advise you not to save but to bring your money to them for blessing have investments in tax havens. And illiteracy has made many people lack understanding of religious teachings which has put them in bondage. Nowadays, in my society religion is now a means of looting peoples funds due to false teachings by bad actors who claim to be called by God, they would never advice people on business or helping them grow financially but they'll mislead them on certain things by telling ignorant Church goers to sow seeds and tithes to get blessings from God, some people instead of working hard to expand their business or investing more on it would gather the little they've earned and give to so called pastors for prayers. Giving to the church is not by force. It's the choice of members to give to religious institutions, they have not been robbed. If these people knew more, they wouldn't be victims of these fake people. The most annoying part of it is that they use religious funds to build schools and hotels that the members cannot afford. They build these businesses for the rich to enable them to make more money.
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~I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort~ ~I've overheard some false spiritual prophets mislead their audience, saying that Cryptocurrency is demonic ~
As far as I know no religion has ever told people to sit on their asses and wait for a miracle to happen. Nor have I ever heard any refer to bitcoin as "demonic"! For example in Islam, Bitcoin is viewed as any other currency. Similar in Islam, people are get brainwashed to believe that the leader always right, do you think the leader will not misuse his power?
You are confusing Wahhabism with Islam. In Muslim Arab countries with a dictator like the Saudi usurped Arabia, Wahhabis rule and in order to stay in power they have to tell people that they have to obey the Khalifa even when he is obviously corrupt! These dictators are doing that in the name of Islam but there is no such thing in Islam. In fact the opposite is true and the leaders are under more scrutiny. For example in Islamic Republic of Iran there is what's called "Assembly of Experts" that are democratically elected by people across the country to then elect the leader and most importantly monitor him and they can dismiss him according to article 111 of Iranian constitution.
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Selling The best selling thing is selling religion to people who are drunk on religion. People who are intoxicated with religion become blind to everything, become fanatics and consider the truth only theirs, considering everything that does not agree with them to be something bad. They make religion a place to seek profit, and this is something that is dangerous and endangers many people. Because they try to convey lies and cover them with the truth
But if you have to ignore religious teachings, it doesn't seem like a wise enough step. because after all, it is religious teachings that can give us peace and guide us on the right path. In this case, we just need to be wiser in managing the information we get, don't just because the person conveying it is a religious leader, we swallow the information he conveys completely. because it is possible that what he conveys is not necessarily in accordance with actual religious teachings, and many of them are religious leaders who try to use the knowledge they have to deceive and mislead many people. But this does not mean that all religious leaders behave like that.
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People are free to determine their attitudes and behavior based on their beliefs and also their own way of choosing to make money, including where they choose to invest, that is their right without anyone being able to intervene. For me, as long as it is profitable and provides benefits in life, I will consider it correct as long as the method taught does not deviate from my conscience and does not lead to negative things. You must use common sense to assess what is taught in religion, always optimize your mind to control your emotions so that you are not easily indoctrinated into misleading things.
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I'm not saying Bitcoin is the only investment option right now but people should spread their investment in different areas not only depending on office jobs, and most importantly avoid being misled by their religious leaders.
Of course, BTC is not the only investment option available, but there are many others as well, but if it has entered the crypto world, BTC is the most trusted. We don't know what the future will look like and it should be necessary to prepare for the long term, especially if you have invested in BTC for the long term. Related to the above, I personally remain focused on the core goal of continuing to invest long-term in BTC. yeah right, if you are looking for long term investment then bitcoin is the most trusted digital currency today, especially since it has proven its ability over time, everyone just needs to be aware that when it comes to crypto investment, it is volatile and chances of decreasing and increasing its value are always present. The matter of religion is too broad topic and it is difficult to talk about it because we have different views when it comes to religious contradictory. It does not affect what religion you have in the things you know there is nothing wrong with what you are doing
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one needs to think intelligently when they want to invest and relate it to their religion. because in christianity itself, it is not prohibited to invest, whether you invest in bitcoin, forex, or other instruments, you are not prohibited from doing so, it's just that you need to carry out your obligations by sharing part of your income with people in need. and just like in islam, in this religion there are rules regarding investment, but specifically for bitcoin there are many opinions about it, there are scholars who say it is haram but there are also those who say it is halal. but apart from that, most muslim investors are not prohibited from investing their money in bitcoin, depending on which ulama they adhere to.
however, in general, religious people are not prohibited from investing or trading. it's just that their mindset must be changed, so that this activity doesn't become gambling, because many people invest but it's like gambling.
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May 20, 2024, 10:20:21 AM |
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OP, if you say there are fake religions, does that mean you believe in real religions? then what is the original religion? Because basically a belief can be assessed if you believe it.
Again regarding investment, as well as regarding religious statements, this is just a form of information diversion. Those who want their followers' investments to go into their own pockets thereby prohibiting their followers from putting money elsewhere. Their only goal is to control other people's wealth in order to enrich themselves, expanding this doctrine under the pretext of religion as a cover. With the development of information that is easily accessible, people are increasingly critical, especially about finances, therefore if they still believe in things that enslave themselves, it is because of the customs of their ancestors who inherited primitive ways of thinking.
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