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May 19, 2024, 05:05:45 PM
Last edit: May 19, 2024, 05:43:12 PM by Skfox
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Bitcoin developers are ones which with the aid of proper education, training, research and practical work have helped in improving their skills and knowledge about bitcoin resulting to quality contribution to the bitcoin ecosystem, making it fast and efficient.
It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?

With the rapid adoption of bitcoin around the world where by some countries now uses bitcoin as a legal tender, companies and some other stores or shop now also uses bitcoin as a means of payment and concerning creating awareness or educating new users, I think the need for more developers should be considered.

Everyday more people are coming in, more hands are needed on security and privacy of bitcoin transactions, assurance of  the primary nature of bitcoin as a decentralized asset, wallet development and educating now users.
I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?
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May 19, 2024, 05:13:02 PM
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Since Bitcoin is complete decentralized, Bitcoin needs a lot of developers to contribute for solving issues and improving the current feature to meet the increasing demand. This why Bitcoin is an open source to become open for collaboration with other developers since Satoshi is already out of the picture.

But right now, Most of the development notably Ordinals and Runes makes Bitcoin like the other Blockchain flooded by shitcoins that spam the mempool due to the hype. This kind of upgrade? creates chaos to Bitcoin.

We need more developers with Satoshi vision and not those shitcoin visionaries that want to apply shitcoin feature on Bitcoin.

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May 19, 2024, 06:00:58 PM
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The recent developments in Bitcoin highlight the need for more developers. However, the space must ensure adequate security while welcoming new participants. The most critical challenge remains protecting the team from hackers.

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May 19, 2024, 06:18:56 PM
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I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?
If you want spread a word about Bitcoin in areas where they have not heard about it, you don't need a developer to spread it. You only need a educated person, who might not even know the technicalities of the blockchain. Speaking of adoption rate, security, and privacy, and keeping these requirements in mind, I don't think we need more developers, we only need some good and loyal developers to the BTC. Who really cares about the true nature of the BTC and don't want to change it.

They might be playing with privacy issues, and as we know due to the approval of ETFs governments are taking more interest in the crypto sphere, and trying hard to provide proper anonymity to the BTC users. So I think if government is against privacy in BTC finance then we can't do anything but adopt proper methods in place

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May 19, 2024, 08:34:48 PM
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If there are more people willing to join the team of developers, then they are free to join, after all, the code is open source.
 
The recent developments in Bitcoin highlight the need for more developers. However, the space must ensure adequate security while welcoming new participants. The most critical challenge remains protecting the team from hackers.

Is it the work of the team to protect other teams from being hacked, or do they focus on the main development of the Bitcoin network, detect and fix bugs, and also improve the protocol where necessary? If there is anything that needs to be protected from hacking, it's the Bitcoin network itself and not the team involved.

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May 19, 2024, 08:37:08 PM
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This is quite a nice question Op. Now my reason for saying so is quite simple. If you come to think of it, Bitcoin is a decentralized crypto currency and for decentralization to be effective , there should be no sort of primary center of control rather the control or rules should be made by a majority idea not a single unit. In the case of Bitcoin the users, developers,and miners are in full control over the entire Blockchain system except core protocols like the base code of Bitcoin.
Therefore in my opinion I believe more developers would be nice for the Blockchain since that would mean more people sharing the total collective power of decision making on the block chain.

If there are more people willing to join the team of developers, then they are free to join, after all, the code is open source.

Is it the work of the team to protect other teams from being hacked, or do they focus on the main development of the Bitcoin network, detect and fix bugs, and also improve the protocol where necessary? If there is anything that needs to be protected from hacking, it's the Bitcoin network itself and not the team involved.

This is one of the more reasons having more developers would be nice. Just like the 51% rule, it would be easier for developers to protect and monitor the block chain properly with a larger magnitude of collective efforts.

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May 19, 2024, 08:55:02 PM
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What's wrong if we get in more new Bitcoin developers? Since Bitcoin is expanding more and more, we may need more Bitcoin developers. Since Bitcoin is open source, anyone can contribute to the network. Anyone can learn and become a bitcoin developer. They can contribute to improving the Bitcoin experience. Though they can't add anything to the code or rewrite the code, they might solve some issues. For example, the Bitcoin lightning network helps reduce fees and facilitate fast transactions. That's how we may find a new solution every time. 

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May 19, 2024, 10:13:25 PM
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I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?
You sound like they are paid with salary and employed by "Bitcoin company" they are just volunteers, asking them to this and that requires shameful behaviour unless you actually pay them.

It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?
Numbers doesn't matter as long there is a developer remains to maintain the code, bitcoin developers are just comes in and out for their own reasons as they are just volunteers, and not paid, until someone sponsor them for their contributions or some company just hired them to continue their contribution in bitcoin development.

With the rapid adoption of bitcoin around the world where by some countries now uses bitcoin as a legal tender, companies and some other stores or shop now also uses bitcoin as a means of payment and concerning creating awareness or educating new users, I think the need for more developers should be considered.
This is not the developers problem anymore. They don't just go out then teach anyone else who is interested. They are the pillars of the development, while sharing the information is for the communities backed by different business, volunteers, etc.
Again don't be confused, developers are for bitcoin development and the rrst are for communities. Well, sometimes there are developers who have huge influence do this, either can be seen in conferences, YT videos snd other platforms, but don't expect too much for them because most of them are introverts — only good in communicating by chats, while have different personality in persons or video chats.

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May 19, 2024, 10:34:30 PM
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What's wrong if we get in more new Bitcoin developers? Since Bitcoin is expanding more and more, we may need more Bitcoin developers. Since Bitcoin is open source, anyone can contribute to the network. Anyone can learn and become a bitcoin developer. They can contribute to improving the Bitcoin experience. Though they can't add anything to the code or rewrite the code, they might solve some issues. For example, the Bitcoin lightning network helps reduce fees and facilitate fast transactions. That's how we may find a new solution every time. 

I don't know if there's an active fund that incentivizes new developers to contribute directly to Bitcoin aside from core Bitcoin developers? I don't mean Bitcoin L2s, Runes or any of those ordinals stuff. Except hard core devs, most new developers will prefer to develop smaller projects instead that can benefit from short term hype to rake them some money.

Another reason is that, most developers won't contribute because most changes will have to go through rigorous concensus processes.


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May 19, 2024, 10:42:58 PM
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What's wrong if we get in more new Bitcoin developers? Since Bitcoin is expanding more and more, we may need more Bitcoin developers. Since Bitcoin is open source, anyone can contribute to the network. Anyone can learn and become a bitcoin developer. They can contribute to improving the Bitcoin experience. Though they can't add anything to the code or rewrite the code, they might solve some issues. For example, the Bitcoin lightning network helps reduce fees and facilitate fast transactions. That's how we may find a new solution every time.

I don't know if there's an active fund that incentivizes new developers to contribute directly to Bitcoin aside from core Bitcoin developers? I don't mean Bitcoin L2s, Runes or any of those ordinals stuff. Except hard core devs, most new developers will prefer to develop smaller projects instead that can benefit from short term hype to rake them some money.

Another reason is that, most developers won't contribute because most changes will have to go through rigorous concensus processes.

This site is https://brink.dev/donate - is supporting bitcoin developers thru their grants. I don't know about new developers. But I believe, there are other sites trying to help these existing developers. After all, they are maintaining the btc network and other related aspects of it. They need to focus on their works, hence, they need funding as getting out from their pockets is quite hard for them.


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The recent developments in Bitcoin highlight the need for more developers. However, the space must ensure adequate security while welcoming new participants. The most critical challenge remains protecting the team from hackers.

Is it the work of the team to protect other teams from being hacked, or do they focus on the main development of the Bitcoin network, detect and fix bugs, and also improve the protocol where necessary? If there is anything that needs to be protected from hacking, it's the Bitcoin network itself and not the team involved.

Why even stress yourself responding to such a person who uses ChatGPT to generate texts and responses?
By just looking at the sentence he made, I can tell he just used ChatGPT but then decided to copy and paste one sentence thinking that it will go unnoticed

I don't think he will even read the replies and get back to respond with any thoughts out of his independent mind

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I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?
There is no need for that.

The developers have been doing what they can as they're not paid with it but, the contribution that they've been doing is incomparable to our suggestions.

You can start doing what you are suggesting about going to remote areas and try to introduce it with those people.

We need more contributors.

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It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?
Bitcoin is a decentralized project and has decentralized communities from developers to users so that there are always many open gates for people to join it as either developers or users.

There is a donation page for Bitcoin developers but they are most famous and productive Bitcoin developers. There are more developers who are less famous and behind the scene.

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You can become one of Bitcoin developers if you want and have skills. The gate is always opened for everyone.
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What's wrong if we get in more new Bitcoin developers? Since Bitcoin is expanding more and more, we may need more Bitcoin developers. Since Bitcoin is open source, anyone can contribute to the network. Anyone can learn and become a bitcoin developer. They can contribute to improving the Bitcoin experience. Though they can't add anything to the code or rewrite the code, they might solve some issues. For example, the Bitcoin lightning network helps reduce fees and facilitate fast transactions. That's how we may find a new solution every time.
You have a good point. What’s wrong with having a lot of bitcoin developers? At least we can guarantee that bitcoin will always have a room to grow and develop, and these developers will make it work and happen. Although we are currently amazed already how innovative and advanced bitcoin is, but changes are inevitable, so we need to cope with it, otherwise bitcoin will be ignored and left behind.

If we can gain a lot of developers for bitcoin, then so be it. I don’t think they’ll be here for nothing, but everyone is still hopeful for more bitcoin features and advantages, that’s why we, the bitcoin community and the smart developers should consistently work hand in hand to create more bitcoin opportunities and benefits in the near future.

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We can try but Bitcoin is unstoppable in its march and Bitcoin has gradually become very popular among people. If we don't discuss about Bitcoin still we will see that Bitcoin is gradually increasing its popularity and people are investing more amount in Bitcoin platform.

When I first came to know about Bitcoin, I did not know about the positive aspects of Bitcoin, rather the medium through which I came to know about Bitcoin presented the negative aspects of Bitcoin. But I know why I got a lot of interest to know about bitcoin and from that interest I tried to know about bitcoin and now I know enough about bitcoin and many more people have come to know about bitcoin through me. Maybe that's how bitcoin will spread all over the world one time and people who don't know about bitcoin now will know about bitcoin then.

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I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.


How do you propose to educate people and spread awareness about Bitcoin in places where there is no internet?
And just like where it is, there should be plenty of information. What is important is knowledge that guides you to the correct understanding and goals. Simply telling without proper explanation will not yield good results. I always rely on the fact that I suggest that all people who need knowledge about Bitcoin visit our forum. Then the truth is born, no matter how loud it may sound. Anyone interested will start reading and independently go through all the steps to knowledge. Many will agree that there is nothing complicated about this.

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Developers of Bitcoin are not employed or paid by any body (like an organization or whatever), and that's because Bitcoin is decentralized. Whoever is working to promote Bitcoin is either doing it for the love of the tech, and I believe that new supporters and developers of Bitcoin will always emerge as time progresses.

Your question is very relevant because there are so many attacks being thrown on the Bitcoin network, and I am beginning to have a double thought that new issues might arise on the network, and we will definitely need lots of developers to fight the attacks. An example is the case of the ordinal, which usually causes the transaction fee of bitcoin to skyrocket. 

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I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?
Do you mean developers or people should be sent to these areas to give people awareness about bitcoin? One thing you should understand about bitcoin is that you can't force it on people,  especially those that don't have Internet and electricity.  The major thing one needs to have to know bitcoin is access to Internet.  Going to areas to give people awareness of bitcoin with no access of good Internet is a waste of time because after telling them about bitcoin what will be next step for them.

For bitcoin to get more awareness is just a matter of time. You can't force people to know about Bitcoin,  instead you give people time and a day will come which they will develope interest in bitcoin and will be willing to know more about it. If you tell people about bitcoin and they are not convinced or willing to accept it, it will be of no use even if they get some bitcoin because if anything happens you will be blamed. With time people will get to know bitcoin when they are willing to accept it and take full responsibility of it.

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May 20, 2024, 12:40:01 PM
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Developers of Bitcoin are not employed or paid by any body (like an organization or whatever), and that's because Bitcoin is decentralized. Whoever is working to promote Bitcoin is either doing it for the love of the tech, and I believe that new supporters and developers of Bitcoin will always emerge as time progresses.

Your question is very relevant because there are so many attacks being thrown on the Bitcoin network, and I am beginning to have a double thought that new issues might arise on the network, and we will definitely need lots of developers to fight the attacks. An example is the case of the ordinal, which usually causes the transaction fee of bitcoin to skyrocket. 
The need for more Bitcoin developers can not be overemphasized, as the community is growing and more people are becoming aware of the advantages of Bitcoin, it has necessitated for expansion. It's true that developers are not paid, it's a voluntary work, therefore, creating more awareness and pushing for a wider Bitcoin adoption is the work of it's community, all of us that believes in the potentials of Bitcoin. Ofcourse issues to be fixed in the Bitcoin network are of paramount importance, like the ordinals that spam the network and causing the transaction fees to skyrocket, this is one of the demerits to seeing a true Bitcoin adoption, if not fixed.

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May 20, 2024, 12:54:13 PM
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Developers of Bitcoin are not employed or paid by any body (like an organization or whatever)

but they are paid
get the list of maintainers then look at which organisation they belong to:
blockstream, brink, chaincodelab
then check out the finances and sponsors and donations those organisations have to pay the devs

the very same period glozow got a job at brink, she was given github privileges to bitcoin core

as for the 'volunteers', well they are left at the bottom, dont have maintainer/merge privileges and just do spell checks/translations so not really 'dev' criteria

as for assumptions of decetralisation
check out whom are the moderators of the main tech discussions of IRC/mailinglist/this forums tech discussion and also where the other main tech video/chat conferences occur. then look at how many 'reference' client brands there are that allow proposals for protocol level upgrades.. notice the small fraternity of the same group

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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