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June 14, 2024, 03:48:44 PM
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Smile 😊 from your tone of writing, you look like an an African. And if you want the African police to behave like the Canadian Police 🚨 then our police force should stop collecting bribe on the streets, roads and even in their offices. How can a police officer stand on the road and collecting money from market people, and transport and private vehicles on the road. In the advanced countries they have standard police force and not like the once we have in the African countries that full with corruption.

Op the government can't set a standard police force in your country because they are all corrupt leaders.

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June 16, 2024, 12:59:35 AM
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We a have a similar thing here in my country going on, corruption here had become so embedded in society to the point in which the police force does not even feel the shame to ask for bribery before performing their basic duties
I have not read about scientifical studies about corruption reduction, and techniques which could be applied to decrease the degree of perceived corruption within society, but if I was in charge of the police force of my city or region, they first thing I would do could have something to do with the increase of the salaries of those agents of the law, so they have little to no excuse to continue to ask for bribes to do their basic job. The second thing to do would be to enforce extreme punishments for those found to be guilty of corruption, I would go even to the extreme of get people posing as normal citizens and try to bribe or suggest bribery to the police people, as soon as the first ones start to fall and face extreme consequences for their behavior, the rest of the police teams will take note. In cases of institutional corruption, the punishments need to send a message to those even considering to break the law.

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June 16, 2024, 11:48:20 AM
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I don't agree that someone get robbed on the street mobile phones or robbed in the middle of day light.
We need armed forces on the street and If anyone do Even one silly move their hands will be braked and police dogs will haunt them down Smiley
 

I doubt anyone agrees with someone getting robbed on the street or anywhere else.
But if you're actually looking for armed forces stationed on the streets with dogs ready to pop anyone that walks funny, you could always sell your shit and permanently relocate to some police state where your rights are given and taken at the whim of the "government" in power.


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June 16, 2024, 03:12:10 PM
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I don't agree that someone get robbed on the street mobile phones or robbed in the middle of day light.
We need armed forces on the street and If anyone do Even one silly move their hands will be braked and police dogs will haunt them down Smiley
 

I doubt anyone agrees with someone getting robbed on the street or anywhere else.
But if you're actually looking for armed forces stationed on the streets with dogs ready to pop anyone that walks funny, you could always sell your shit and permanently relocate to some police state where your rights are given and taken at the whim of the "government" in power.


Grin Grin Grin After reading the OP I couldn't help but wonder why anyone should be scared of the police when the police is our friend. Why armed forces should be stationed at every nooks and crannies of the state, is OP advocating for a state of emergency in disguise or is he encouraging the the armed forces to intimidate civilians all in the name of maintaining peace and order?? This is obviously not the right way to maintain peace and order in a country. The people should be taught instead to cooperate with the arm forces to maintain peace and order in their environment. Obeying laws and order is the duty of every responsible citizen, offenders should be reported to the police to serve their punishment.

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June 16, 2024, 05:42:01 PM
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While I disagree that anyone should look to Canada as an example of anything except what not to do, I do agree that people want law and order back. California and New York are basically 3rd world countries when you’re out in public. It terrifies me that these places are the liberal blueprint of what they want our society to be…

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June 19, 2024, 09:20:05 PM
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Smile 😊 from your tone of writing, you look like an an African. And if you want the African police to behave like the Canadian Police 🚨 then our police force should stop collecting bribe on the streets, roads and even in their offices. How can a police officer stand on the road and collecting money from market people, and transport and private vehicles on the road. In the advanced countries they have standard police force and not like the once we have in the African countries that full with corruption.

Op the government can't set a standard police force in your country because they are all corrupt leaders.
Am sorry to say but am not trying to go against you only clarification is what I want to make. The earlier we know this the better we are. "For the fact that monkey and gorilla claims to be in one family , while monkey is monkey and gorilla is gorilla " Africa is Africa and Canada is Canada. They are very two different countries with everything different and I don't think they can ever be the same. I said this because of what is happening in my society where the law makers are even law breakers. Our leaders here that will even struggle for us to make sure we have law and order in our society are the ones that are the most corrupt people. this police that you are even talking about is number one bribery collector. Infact, if a person becomes a police officer, even most of his family and friends don't want to be close to him anymore due to their behavior. If mistakenly fall into their trouble as little as the problem is, they will just start looking for a way to get the problem bigger so that they will have chance to collect bribe from you irrespective of who you are to them. The exception is just few out of them.

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June 23, 2024, 09:54:34 PM
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I don't agree that someone get robbed on the street mobile phones or robbed in the middle of day light.
We need armed forces on the street and If anyone do Even one silly move their hands will be braked and police dogs will haunt them down Smiley
 

I doubt anyone agrees with someone getting robbed on the street or anywhere else.
But if you're actually looking for armed forces stationed on the streets with dogs ready to pop anyone that walks funny, you could always sell your shit and permanently relocate to some police state where your rights are given and taken at the whim of the "government" in power.


Grin Grin Grin After reading the OP I couldn't help but wonder why anyone should be scared of the police when the police is our friend. Why armed forces should be stationed at every nooks and crannies of the state, is OP advocating for a state of emergency in disguise or is he encouraging the the armed forces to intimidate civilians all in the name of maintaining peace and order?? This is obviously not the right way to maintain peace and order in a country. The people should be taught instead to cooperate with the arm forces to maintain peace and order in their environment. Obeying laws and order is the duty of every responsible citizen, offenders should be reported to the police to serve their punishment.


Yes you are correct and to add this is also the reason foolish masses can be easily lockstepped into police state mentality or worse still bringing some dictatorial demagogue to power to "do something about this".

If it wasnt for the law breaker then the tyrant would be powerless. Because there are those who break G_Ds commandments there became a need for kings and judges.

Knee jerk reactions are dangerous and moderate political discourse should never overpowered by fanatics and extremists.

There are many underlying conditions for criminal behaviour from destitution to mental illness but the majority of criminals are simply dishonest and violent.

It is up to the courts to decide who deserves the most serious sentences and to ensure each type sentence gives justice for the victim and incentive for the law breaker to reform while also ensuring there is incentive for someone carrying out their heinous crime to not go from say rape to murder to leave no witnesses. For this reason the heinous crime of rape gets less sentence than murder to give the rapist the incentive not to kill his/her victim.

Experts in the field should decide the best directives but those experts should be not only intelligent but more importantly WISE.

Serious criminals should not be allowed to fraternise in prison EVER. It is laughable that criminals from the same gang or fraternity or violent criminals can associate freely within prisons. It is a mockery to their victims. At best they should be allowed to exercise alone or given the opportunity to attend classes teaching them remorse and be given a copy of the Bible,Torah,Koran or whatever faith they belong to or all of the former and left to theior silence to reflect over time. Then once they have made an honest attempt to atone for their crimes they should be afforded the opportunity of education and work.

They then should be placed in a work programme that actually is gainful providing a service or product for the society or markets and 100% of their earnings goes to their victims in compensation. If they refuse to make atonement then let the maximum sentence apply.
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June 24, 2024, 01:26:59 AM
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While I disagree that anyone should look to Canada as an example of anything except what not to do, I do agree that people want law and order back. California and New York are basically 3rd world countries when you’re out in public. It terrifies me that these places are the liberal blueprint of what they want our society to be…

You have mentioned before why you think Canada is doing things wrong, and your criticism is understandable, however you also need to keep in mind the context in which someone would look Canada and take it as an example to follow.
Anyone living in an actual third world country would like to see some of the security and law/order a country like Canada has to offer.
By the way, I have seen some news and videos out of the cities in California and the State in New York, certainly the situation is concerning, but you also need  to zoom out and not only to see the concentration of migrants and homeless people in those places, they happen to be the cities in which there is a high concentration of wealth. California itself could run as a country because of the money they generate.

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June 24, 2024, 02:30:48 AM
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Law and order is necessary for all countries if there is no proper law and order, the country will deteriorate. Common people should not be surprised by such double-edged statements in the current political culture of the country. Because here even if it is very good one side will say it is very bad and even if it is very bad, one side will say it is very good. Political cultures are such contradictions. Here political parties prefer to blame each other.

Politics stops the progress of the country, because politicians always give priority to their own interests. Because of this, it hinders the development of the country because the political situation around the world has changed and the influence of dirty politics is spreading.  They have taken away the rights of the people to grab power.


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