Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?

[pinggoki]

I would say it's somewhat a bad sport to bet on given how bad the current boxing federation is and how corrupt they are, it's really difficult for me to say that it's not the worst sport to put your money in. It's still a 50/50 odds per matches at the most simple terms but with the bad match up and possibility of a fixed matches, there's a possibility that you're bet is for naught unless you've got an insider for that match that would help you out to decide which fighter would you put your money into.

Also, given the current popularity of mixed martial tournaments like UFC and ONE, it's definitely one of the bad sports that you can bet your money into.

[tsaroz]

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

All of sports is susceptible to corruption and match fixing. It's not an individual issue of boxing. Boxing at the moment is surely the most controversial at the moment. There had been unexpected and unpredicted results even when the viewers could easily see something is not right and the performance doesn't corelate to the results. Boxing without these some bad examples overall is a good sports to bet. The stats and performance do matter and almost all of the results are in either win or a loss. Other mixed martial arts like UFC are a bit different than boxing and are more popular watching as well betting on.

[davis196]

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Corruption exists in every popular sport. Do you think that there's no corruption in football? If there's big money to be made, there will always be corruption. The bookies would never stop accepting bets for a certain sport, even if there are serious allegations against that particular sports federation or certain clubs and players. I totally do not care about the Olympics anymore. It doesn't matter if boxing is going to be removed from the Olympics. The Olympics are also filled with corruption and doping scandals. Almost every sport has been turned into a dirty business.

[alani123]

Os boxing the worst sport to get on?

I'm not sure, whether the sport of boxing really makes some fans angry about the behavior of promoters and judges, that's some of the facts we see, boxing has always been synonymous with corrupt mafias, your question reminds me of something said by: @John McGlothlin.

Facts that happened: How did boxing become so corrupt so that there are several "champions" at each weight class who never fight each other?

The multi-champion fiasco came about as a result of:

• multiple sanctioning bodies who charge multiple sanctioning fees for multiple champions;
• promoters allying themselves with particular sanctioning bodies, and only fighting particular opponents in order to have more “title” fights, and make more money than they could with a single champion.
• TV providers allying themselves with particular sanctioning bodies and promoters

But as far as I know, not all boxing sports can be called corrupt and bad sports like we imagine, not all boxing sauces are spicy, there are still many sauces that have a sweet taste.

It's interesting, many non-team sports fall under the same fate but not many are like boxing. Having handfuls of high level organizations and so many "champions" that don't even know each other. In the process boxing became more of a show than a sport sadly. Olympic boxers often had no notoriety and almost nobody knew about them in spit of them having the best sportsmanship and skill.

Now to their detriment because of how corrupt the rest of the sport is they may lose their spot as athletes on the Olympics because of everyone else's corruption. And these things have been going on for ages in boxing. It just makes me wonder what would make anyone to bet on such matches especially given the history of corruption that is so long standing.

[bitterguy28]

I know of the entertainment with WWF but not boxing and now news about the fun game and arranged fight is beginning to enclose that sport that looks like serious fighting sport. I don't know if we are still going to see that in kick boxing, rugby and other physical games. I have not bet on boxing but I sure like the fight because it looks serious and now that the corruption is getting into public space, it may begin to get discouraging.

Wrestling specially WWF is for entertainment only meaning they are scripted so  the wrestler is less risky because they are prone in accident and breaking bones , so this is different from Boxing where people and fans trying to believe that all the fight is legit but like what OPsays? there is corruption and I believe game fixing happening inside .
for this we should prevent betting for this sports first while they are reorganizing and fixing this issue for better future of boxing world.

[EluguHcman]

All by myself, I am not too conversation to gambling on boxing. It is likely like the WWE were obviously it seems scripted such a fix match programs, although UFC has seemed far away to be compared with it because there are lot of more serious individuals who do not believe on those meme entertainment but much more concerned and Interested on the sport games.

One thing is sure that every sectors of gaming or sport activities is being corrupted including the football games most of us a reliable on for bets.
You can imagine how matches are fixed and the football coordinators would never let the public know about it.
I guess that is also a view of corruption because it is a clear view that the fix matches are trade by barter where is targeted to benefit the two teams while the Interests of the fans are not considered.
And I guess when you bet on a potential winning team on such fix match you should be expecting a reverse that the unexpected team will take the lead.

While I do not mean to discourage anyone gambler of discriminating where they are conversant and reliable on betting, let me remind us that with all being said, gambling remains a game of luck.

[Assface16678]

That's why I don't bet on boxing because, over the years I've been watching boxing, I never once bet on it because sometimes the referees are unfair and calling foul calls, and also because I don't really enjoy watching boxing, so yeah, I think boxing is the least popular betting sport for me. I know maybe some here really do bet on boxing, and it's also a good choice because the choices are only 50/50, which is more practical, but the thing is, do boxing games sometimes have a fixed match? especially the less popular boxers? I noticed it; that's why I get more eager not to gamble on it, and I also stop watching boxing because there are not many exciting boxers out there, or am I just outdated or what?

It's not the "worst," just the least popular sports betting, I guess, because I noticed in the betting sites and applications I used that only a few people were betting in boxing.

[irhact]

I would say it's somewhat a bad sport to bet on given how bad the current boxing federation is and how corrupt they are, it's really difficult for me to say that it's not the worst sport to put your money in. It's still a 50/50 odds per matches at the most simple terms but with the bad match up and possibility of a fixed matches, there's a possibility that you're bet is for naught unless you've got an insider for that match that would help you out to decide which fighter would you put your money into.

I love to bet more on football, tennis and basketball when it comes to sporting activities I love to watch boxing matches cause of my love for boxers like AJ and the current champion Usky, though I've betted on AJ once in the match that went viral between him and Francis, I only did that due to my love for him as a fan. Even if I was more into boxing there are some few boxers I'll only stake my money on.

 But on hearing this and how corrupt the boxing federation have gotten I don't think I'll want to place a bet on anyone, not even AJ I'll rather continue to focus more on football and other sports I got interest on but currently several leagues have ended so I think I'll focus on basketball and tennis, the odds are still very okay to bet on I just have to pick about 4 to 5 games then stake high like I normally do for football.

[Crypt0Gore]

You really have to be someone who likes boxing to place bet on boxing, this game has some strict rules but is very entertaining if you like boxing, I do not like placing bets on boxing but I love watching the actions, but isn't boxing a game to consider fixed?

For many, boxing could be the worst sport of all to place bets on, I can see why but there are few boxing fans that do nothing else than gambling on boxers, sometimes there was some past fights that ends with unfair result and they are too complicated to judge.

It is always left for the referee or the judge to choose a winner, in this case I don't always like it, some fights have no winner and some are miscalculated and unfair but all in all, you get what you want, to be entertained, that's why you must be a responsible gambler to yourself.

Risk only what you can afford to lose.

[Kelvinid]

It was not only in boxing that corruption appears, it is also in other sports, they are not just too bulgar to see where we can tell that they are doing it now.
To the question if it is still worth to bet? Well, I still consider it worthy unless the fight is already manipulated. For now, it was still a good sport for me but not sure in the future if corruption and manipulation will at worse.

Besides, I don't bet just for money and winning opportunities but I bet in support of my favorite boxer. And since I am a sports lover, I don't mind if there is corruption inside as I enjoy watching the fight.

[Slow death]

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

I haven't been betting on boxing and I haven't been betting on the UFC either, but in my opinion, despite there being corruption, still when it comes to fights, in most cases I see the winners as being fair winners, this is because there are many people who are following the fights and the fighters to the point of being able to identify in a fight when it was fair or when there was a fair winner, so in my opinion it is difficult for most big fights to be manipulated or corrupted. Maybe there could be cases where boxi's top managers receive money from some fight event promoter to schedule fights in their country, maybe that could happen. but I highly doubt that there is corruption in the winners of boxing matches. Now in the case of the UFC, there is probably a greater chance of there being manipulation or corruption in the newcomers' fights, but I highly doubt that there will be many cases

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

Well, this i believe is nothing new, even though it's the first time I am reading about this on this forum.
Personally, I feel corruption have somehow eaten deep into almost everything in this world, that it's beginning to appear like a normal thing, talk about the government, the people, organizations, what about churches and even charity organizations? You did be surprised at the level of corruptions going on in this places.

So, if churches and charity organizations can be swimming in corruption, how much more sports organizing bodies like mentioned boxing federation, the UFC and so on, I can bet my balls the even FIFA, the premier league and so on all run on corruption, why? Because alot of people are corruption themselves, and as long as this set of people are the ones heading the affires of this organizations, rest assure the entire organization is corrupt, but they won't let it out to the public.

In the case of FIFA, corruption is common

2015 FIFA corruption scandal

Investigations into international soccer organization FIFA uncover extensive bribery and kickbacks among officials around the world.

source: https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/video/fifa-kickbacks-world-cup-corruption

Football corruption and the remarkable road to Qatar’s World Cup

source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/08/football-corruption-and-the-remarkable-road-to-qatar-world-cup

[Natalim]

Betting is different from just being a pure sports fan. If you're just a fan and don't like gambling, you might criticize the sport. However, when it comes to betting, we only bet if we believe we are knowledgeable about the sport we choose, as this increases our winning chances.

Actually, all sports have their critics. Some people believe that certain sports are rigged, including boxing, but not only boxing because even basketball, tennis, and soccer (football) have their critics. At the end of the day, it's up to us to decide which sport we will bet on.

[maydna]

Corruptions can happens to anything, including boxing because human can gets tempts with something that they like. We will not knows the truth until someone or some people report that corruptions or publish the corruption happens to that federation. If there are no proves about the corruption, people will not pay attention to that and the match will still running. But if some people can proves that the corruption happens to that federation and that is the truth, boxing can really gets off schedule from the Olympics. We can just waits for the next announcement and hopefully, boxing can still on the lists.

[Hispo]

Well. Thanks for sharing this news... I had no idea there was such dramatic issues going on and unresolved within the Olympics and the boxing federation. Certainly, this is enough for me to avoid betting of boxing when I decide to go back onto betting on sports.
In my opinion, the problem comes from the fact Boxing may be the easiest sport to mess with and fix, when comes to results. It only takes to convince one single person to fall down at an specific step of the fight, the other boxer does not even need to be aware the fight is being fixed.

As point of comparison or contrast, in order for someone to influence on a football match, they would need to convince several people within one of the teams to fix the match.

Anyways... Keeping an eye on this, because it would be certainly scandalous if We ended up not seeing boxing in the next Olympic Games, it could easily erode the trust people have on the sport in general.

[avp2306]

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Even those situation exist but for sure it will not happen on big fights. So if you want to place your bets on boxing then make sure that you only do it on bigger events where a lot of people are watching and don't bet on undercards since provably this fix matches would provably happen since there maybe less people are interested to see the whole details of the fight since what they are waiting for is the main event.

But also still thanks for sharing that link since there would be lots of people would ever recognize that fix matches still possible to happen on boxing. That's why we should always choose the best and don't  bet randomly on any open fights that we see.

[passwordnow]

Corruptions can happens to anything, including boxing because human can gets tempts with something that they like. We will not knows the truth until someone or some people report that corruptions or publish the corruption happens to that federation.

But the problem with the whistleblower, if it tends to be true then the people that are involved especially the officials and the committee are going to feed him with vast money. You know those situations that when someone is being bribed with money or else they'd get some threat not just for their lives but for their families too.

If there are no proves about the corruption, people will not pay attention to that and the match will still running. But if some people can proves that the corruption happens to that federation and that is the truth, boxing can really gets off schedule from the Olympics. We can just waits for the next announcement and hopefully, boxing can still on the lists.

While there are other bodies and third parties that are getting involved and trying to solve these problems of politics and corruption to an authority of sports agencies and federations. There were people that have been punished by their wrongdoings. I still believe in justice but you know that when the names involved are big in the industry, they're like the untouchables and it means business for them and they are not going to allow someone to tarnish their reputation and names. But as you've mentioned Olympics, I believe that there's still quite some controversy on it but the biggest one could be from the qualifying there from different sports organizations globally.

[moneystery]

the problem of dishonesty within the organization is not only a problem for the boxing organization, but other sports organizations also experience the same problem, but the boxing organization may already be at an alarming level because of the amount of cheating there. this problem should be of special concern to boxing organizations, because this will directly affect the image of the sport of boxing and in the future it will make people view this sport in a bad light. internal resolution of the organization or even carrying out a major overhaul within the organization could be a solution taken by boxing organizations to make their organization healthy again.

[cabron]

Right now they have found a way to bring the fights in Saudi Arabia because the oil kingpins can pay millions just so they see gigantic people rumbling in the ring. The boxing organizations seem to be united on this.

I noticed this too that recently, most of the boxing matches have been happening in Saudi Arabia.

Boxing is the least I can think of, for corrupt practices to operate on because of how real it can be for us the viewers to see how the boxers end up having bruises and injuries before and after the end of each fight round. So, most fights are just stage fights for people to lose money in them. That's very interesting to note that not all UFC fights are not as real as people thought it to be.

Some cases of corruption are not that the match is fixed but that the officials have been bought over, maybe two of the ringside officials out of the three, and one of the fighters will not know. The fight goes on as normal and as usual but the officials score the fight in favor of their candidates.

There was a lot of complain after Tyson Fury still won the fight against Francis Ngannou, it raised a lot of question and aroused suspicion of corruption because to almost everyone who saw the fight, Francis looked like the winner.

In the Fury against Usyk fight, one of the judges still scored Fury the winner, even when the winner of the fight was obvious. It is suspicious.

To make a fight happen, there is the need to pay for the promotion and the fee to these boxers. Often, the pay goes by the millions because organizations are taking a percentage of the money.  The Saudis can spend millions for the event to be held in their country and on the global scene, you can observe they are running the show. You can already tell, they are the richest in the world.

Not sure why Fury is favored every time but I'm guessing the people behind it want him to win and most probably the rich are rooting for him. This time he lost and basically, the promotions robbed the Saudis.  

[Peanutswar]

Not only in boxing but even in other sports too that has a large reward, and title because of course everyone wants to achieve these titles and get honourable mentions and write their names or teams in the list of the history reason why there's a lot of people doing under the table transactions just to win their favourite players. Still, there's a is fair fight but of course, you can see those suspicious moves or acts by the players or officials once the game starts, like fail-to-call, no-count hit and etc.

[coin-investor]

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

I'd also been reading this, and the IBF is trying to resolve the issue since it came up; boxing has been an important part of the Olympics since 1904

Boxing was one of the sports contested at the Ancient Olympic Games in Greece. It first appeared on the modern Olympic program in 1904 at the third edition of the Games. It has been contested at every Olympics since then with the exception of 1912

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Boxing 101: Olympic history, records and results
and there are a lot of countries participating in this event because of the popularity, so many great boxers like Ali and Foreman competed and won gold in the Olympics, also our country has a lot of entries in the boxing category, and they are potential gold medalists so we hope they can resolve the issue.

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

There's news of corruption in amateur organizations, but when it comes to the professional league, the organizations and promoters are trying to be transparent because it's a multibillion industry that they can't afford to lose.