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May 21, 2024, 08:26:31 AM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.
maybe because that is what is written in their books in which I think almost
every religion has this rules but they are not all who follows to that rules.


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Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

when I was still active in our church? yeah there are some conflicts between but
now that  i start distancing from the church ? yeah this gives me more time to gamble
freely.

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May 21, 2024, 08:34:54 AM
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However, people still gamble for various reasons.
We can assume that the people who still gamble are not from the religion that prohibits it or if they are they are not very religious.

I do not expect anyone to openly here discuss how they participate in something that is expressly prohibited by their religion.
Christianity does rule against gambling yet I do gamble and that doesn't make me a lesser christian than others. What I believe is that religions kicks against certain social activities due to how it has had a negative influence or results in the lives of people in the past, and to prevent their religious faithful from involving in those activities they have to hate it as they do the devil.

Certain religious prohibition is as a way to help the weak in faith and spirit amongst the religious faithful not to go astray as they might not be capable and well disciplined to maintain moderation getting involved in those activities, hence the prohibition.


There are devoted Christians and Muslims that do gamble despite how much their religion prohibits it, you see them applying core discipline to it, and their lives tend to be more pleasing than even those that claim not to gamble because their religion frown at it. Same people that don't gamble still do take alcohol for the stomach sake.
 



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May 21, 2024, 08:38:54 AM
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In my opinion, any religion does not approve of gambling. In Christianity, there is a rule: “You cannot serve God and mammon." Why does a person come to a casino? To win a certain amount of money, and accordingly, he gives in to the sin of love of money. I think all other religions also have the same resonance with the desire to become rich. But we are people, and we are all not without sin; we play and lose and have many vices that tempt us. However, firstly, do not lose your human face, and being human, no one can be honest and judge our sins as soon as we do.

And how people see this in themselves is how their religion is built, which, unfortunately for everyone, is interpreted as beneficial to them.

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May 21, 2024, 08:40:03 AM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?
I person who has beliefs or adheres to religion that has been followed by my family for generations, but so far I have never had any problems, including conflicts related to religion and gambling.

I think all religions have the same view regarding gambling and all religions definitely prohibit gambling activities because it is not an activity that can be considered good because of the various negative impacts that can be experienced by everyone who enjoys gambling.
Religion teaches good attitudes and also the character of compassion, it is clear that the negative impact caused by gambling can cause all religious teachings to deviate or can be said to be inconsistent with existing guidance.
It just that personally, I always think that whatever I do, even if it is prohibited by religion, as long as it doesn't harm other people and I can still accept all the risks and consequences, then I will still do it.
Each person point of view and goals will be different, I sure every gambler will have different point of view regarding context like this.

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May 21, 2024, 09:08:06 AM
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There is no where that talks about gambling in the Bible. Do not turn Bible into something that will make some people not to believe in anything you say.


Gambling has existed for a long time even before the founding of some religions. As far as I know, gambling was not mentioned in any part of the Bible both in the new and old Testaments. The closest to gambling that is mentioned in the Bible is casting lots. It was mentioned about 70 times in the Old Testament and 7 times in the New Testament which is 77 times. The casting of lots could be related to flipping a coin or rolling dice to determine a winner as we saw in the case of the soldiers gambling to determine who will take Jesus’ garments. And casting lots is was not illegal or seen as a sin in the Bible. 

There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


There is no mention of gambling in my religious books but some religious preachers keep on speaking wrong about gambling. I don't really care about what these religious scholars say because I can read and understand the holy books.  They have not come up with any concrete reason why gambling is a sin. Preachers should focus on encouraging responsible gambling and also discourage underage betting

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May 21, 2024, 09:09:33 AM
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How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?
Probably it all roots with the effect of it and that is being greedy. When someone is too greedy, he can do crazy things that he can't ever imagine. But you get the point of these religions but no offense, they don't want their members to gamble because they want their money to be spent well. And you see them ask them every time or at all times talking about them being generous and freely donate to organizations they want to. I have no problem with that but sometimes, there's a conflict if it's about money issues.
Make sense, as greed can be very easily adapted to gambling, that's why there are some religions that hate gambling. Their first step is to avoid gambling, which for me has a good advantage as their people will also benefit from it. Especially since gambling involves money
As they say, prevention is better than cure. So, they're all stopping the root of it before it becomes a fruit.  Smiley

money is the root of evil  Wink it could add up.
This is a known verse in the bible but it is not money that's the root of all evil. You missed one word of it, the word "love". And with that, it is this verse in the bible;

1 Timothy 6:10 KJV
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

There are devoted Christians and Muslims that do gamble despite how much their religion prohibits it, you see them applying core discipline to it, and their lives tend to be more pleasing than even those that claim not to gamble because their religion frown at it. Same people that don't gamble still do take alcohol for the stomach sake.
I wouldn't limit it to the only two faith and beliefs. Not just Muslims and Christians that does it secretly. It's very likely that in some other known faith, despite that their teachings is not to gamble to avoid being greedy. There can be other root cause of it when it's outside gambling and yet, the result is the same and they still become greedy. But focusing with gambling, I guess it has become a normal thing when you hear some stories about a faithful or religious guy then have been seen some casino apps on their phone or into their devices.

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In my opinion, any religion does not approve of gambling. In Christianity, there is a rule: “You cannot serve God and mammon." Why does a person come to a casino? To win a certain amount of money, and accordingly, he gives in to the sin of love of money. I think all other religions also have the same resonance with the desire to become rich. But we are people, and we are all not without sin; we play and lose and have many vices that tempt us. However, firstly, do not lose your human face, and being human, no one can be honest and judge our sins as soon as we do.

And how people see this in themselves is how their religion is built, which, unfortunately for everyone, is interpreted as beneficial to them.

That is just the simple truth, anything to that your conscience is against you don't need religion condemnation or view before you see as moral wrong because conscience is already a judge before you, I concur that no one can serve God and mammor, the love of money is the root of all evil. Any money that is course to do anything is not advisable to , most person sell off belongs to gamble and get addicted to gambling. Greed is what many religion condemn which is not far from what most gamblers is fully doing may not malign with those religion faith .

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To say the fact, I don't think there is any religion that encourages gamble because, the risk and consequences is high which will make them not support gambling for the well being of their congregation. I am still gambling because I don't see it as something wrong to me since I gamble responsible. In whatever that we are doing, as long as we don't overdo it, it is cool.

Since I gamble for fun, and I don't use money for important needs to gamble or use my gambling activities to be a burden on someone, it is all good. I see the money that I use to gamble as spare money which I can easily let  go without looking back, and I don't see it as something bad. Addiction and loss chasing is where the problem of gambling lies.

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May 21, 2024, 11:49:54 AM
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Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?
I have faced some conflicts with my religious beliefs and my gambling. At first, it was such a huge internal conflict with my self that left me with  feeling depressed whenever I am gambling. However after some introspection, I concluded it I'm not going to let this conflict get the best of me. How I dealt with it was that I decided I was going to create and stick  to a gambling budget. I was going to gamble for a specific number of time and duration per week. And lastly is small portion of my winnings would go towards doing some good. This was how I resolved the religion-gambling conflict.

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In my opinion, any religion does not approve of gambling. In Christianity, there is a rule: “You cannot serve God and mammon." Why does a person come to a casino? To win a certain amount of money, and accordingly, he gives in to the sin of love of money. I think all other religions also have the same resonance with the desire to become rich. But we are people, and we are all not without sin; we play and lose and have many vices that tempt us. However, firstly, do not lose your human face, and being human, no one can be honest and judge our sins as soon as we do.
There are three categories of gamblers according to Buddhism.  Recreational gambling is not a sin in Buddhism.

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However, we might say that there are three types of gambling Ý recreational, habitual and addictive. The first type is when someone occasionally plays cards for small stakes or buys a lottery ticket to support a charity. Habitual gambling is to gamble a significant but manageable percentage of one's income on a regular basis. Addictive gambling is the inability to resist the opportunity to gamble and thus be constantly in debt. From a Buddhist perspective, recreational gambling would be considered harmless and not against the Precepts

It is good the ways that gambling is like a sin in religion, but it should not be forbidden because as gambling can be bad, it can also be good for some people. If I am gambling and I am able to control myself and be using small amount of money, gambling is not a sin for me. But if I am getting addicted, I should know I have to quit. Not because of religion but because of my future.

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Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
First ask how many persons are really faithful and devote to their religion? because that will answer to the question. If someone is very devoted and dedicated to their religion and their religious teachings, they would not go against the principle they have about gambling because they will not want to sin but if it's someone who is not so dedicated to their religion, even if their religion says that they shouldn't gamble they wouldn't care, they will go on and gambling without minding the sin they are committing.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


Well I just never think about that creating any personal conflict and let the gambling activity slide then ignore any religious discussion since its separate topics. If someone say its a since then I just simply ignore it since everyone commit a since and its fine for me to do it. But for me gambler or not if you are responsible on your well being and treat people with respect then I guess that is fine already since for sure with that you became a responsible person. Unlike if the person is not a gambler but always degrade those people doesn't pass on his standards then that is more worse than a gamblers doing.

As long as we pray and be a responsible person then for me everything well be alright. If some religious people shake their heads when seeing you participating on gambling activities just smile at them and  ignore since your peace of mind is more important.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


Our country is a Christian country, but gambling is legal, and the government supports and manages the casino industry and the lottery platforms; it's on the individual how he processes gambling in his life; there is a saying in the bible that you cannot serve two masters at the same, you will love the other and hate the others.

If you value your religion, you will not treat it as important as your religion you will treat it as a form of entertainment and only allocate money that is less than what you are contributing to your church.

We must always choose our religion more than anything else because it governs us in our lives, keeping us from going astray and giving us hope in the afterlife.

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Religion is the biggest gamble of all!
You live your life believing your is true and if you have chosen the wrong god you're **** for your entire afterlife!

And just for the sake of discussing the other aspect, no god was around when slot machines were invented, and if any priest/mullah/rabbi whatever claims that everything that happens is the work of their god, then gambling is also a thing the same god allowed happening!

Gambling has existed for a long time even before the founding of some religions.

Some! Since archaic religions predate the use of money or writing, gambling is second to religion on the timeline.




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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

Every Sunday sormon when the pastor makes an alter call and he demands people who are endurged in gambling should come and give their life's to Christ I feel guilty but at the same time I am a gambler who know the ethics of my relationship with God who's premises are based our religion believes, much more also the fact that many religions fanatics gamble one way or the others which make me have a conclusion that there should a line between gambling and religion and no one should contradicts whatsoever.

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Our country is a Christian country, but gambling is legal, and the government supports and manages the casino industry and the lottery platforms; it's on the individual how he processes gambling in his life; there is a saying in the bible that you cannot serve two masters at the same, you will love the other and hate the others.
World for some folks like us who are irreligious our gambling is with our conscience. That which we know we would do when we gamble that would smite our conscience we desist from it. We obey the casino rules to the latter. We do not try to out smart the systems with all types of cunny stuffs that other punters would do. While for others it is their religion versus gambling, for people like me, it is my conscience versus gambling.

Gambling has existed for a long time even before the founding of some religions.
stompix has already responded to this and to buttress his point, without religion, there will be no human existence. It it the bedrock on which civilization is built. And it will continue to exist long after we become dust. It looks like a contradiction to what I have said alread about being irreligious, it doesn't mean I deny its existence.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

I haven't but from my observations I think those from the Northern part in Nigeria are not the gambling types because they are Moslems, and in most Moslem countries there's nothing like gambling over there and that's why I believe that gambling is against their religious. But if in anyway a northern person is gambling it's either the person is not a real Moslem or.

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May 21, 2024, 01:57:52 PM
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Even though all religions throughout the world prohibit gambling, even in the Islamic religion, this is also the case, it is even said that it is something that is really not recommended to do, it is the same as immorality in gambling, that is why the Islamic religion prohibits its followers from doing such things. , but it all comes back to the person who does it because a person's character is very different even though they have any religion, if someone's hobby is gambling, there's no way it can be separated unless only death can separate them, all religions forbid it, so in my opinion it all comes back to each of them to conclude it.

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May 21, 2024, 02:14:58 PM
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i'm not a very religious person, so i'm not too concerned about how my beliefs clash with my gambling. besides, i think that every day we commit sins, and the sin of gambling is not greater than our sin of saying dirty things, having dirty thoughts, or other sins, so i don't worry too much about that. the most important thing for me is that i don't harm other people and my gambling is still within reasonable limits, especially i don't play with women or drink alcohol, like people usually do in physical casinos. so i thought that my gambling was normal, even though i understood it clashed with my beliefs.

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If you're a Muslim, do you always give 2.5% of your income for tithe? do you never in relationship? do you never drink an alcohol?

If you're a Christian, do you always give 10% of your income for tithe?

If you're a Catholic, do you never having sex with your wife except when you both want to have kids?

If you're a Buddhism, do you never lying and kill any creature?

I'm interested to know about it since we didn't even talk about gambling, when there are other rules that are harder than gambling itself and how religious are those people.



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