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May 21, 2024, 02:22:19 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

Not only gambling, there are many other things that religion has warned people to stay away from but they are still doing it for personal pleasure. In the case of gambling in some religions like Islam for example, it's clearly stated in the holy Quran that it is something that originated from the devil and should be ignored in its entirety. Funny enough, just as it happening now Quran has confirmed that there's profits in gambling but damages is far more than the profit you will realized from playing gambling. This is exactly the case with gambling today because even if you win a jackpot, if care is not taken you'll lose part of it if not all to gambling again and begin to use your personal money to gamble.

The reason behind Islam frowning or forbid gambling is for the good of human being knowing how hard and difficult it is to make money and then lose it in a blink of eyes. The frustration and regret you will go through is what Islam is trying to prevent by asking those practicing the religion to stay away from it in totality. When you look at it from that angle, you'll agree that these damage is more than enough reason to keep away from it but the addictive nature of gambling has turned away our minds from seeing these damages and we focus on the profit side of it.

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May 21, 2024, 02:45:08 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

I think why some religions are against gambling is the to the behaviour of most individuals who get addicted due to reckless gambling, most religion condemn the act cause they think it's leading their followers astray but then I think the problem is not gambling as ab act but the gambler who refuses to gamble responsible and allow themselves to get addicted that's the problem.

 Well as a gambler, so far I gamble responsibly, I don't spend recklessly or waste money ment for good investments on my family and business then I'm good to go, thanks for the Internet that's made it possible for me to gamble online at my comfort without any religious member of mine noticing it and even if they figure out at some point i won't get worried cause I'm not letting it affect my family.



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May 21, 2024, 02:48:01 PM
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However, people still gamble for various reasons.
We can assume that the people who still gamble are not from the religion that prohibits it or if they are they are not very religious. In reality too, almost every religion is averse to gambling, Islam is the only one I know that expressly prohibits any form of riba which will include gambling and also investing in Bitcoin, but Christianity is not welcoming of gambling either or any other religion for that matter.

I do not expect anyone to openly here discuss how they participate in something that is expressly prohibited by their religion.

In Christianity, they don't really recognize that, but not all members don't gamble, because most of their members are gamblers, not even in a literal casino; they often gamble in online casinos.
Naturally, they don't say that about their religion that they believe in, because at the end of the day, what they believe is still their choice if they value that thing; that's just the way it is, right?

And even to other religions for sure they do the same thing with the other members as well, because there are still a lot of people are relying on luck, and they can only find this on
gambling if they play in any of the casino whether it is online or physical gambling.



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May 21, 2024, 02:49:45 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?



I don't have problem with my religion and my gambling habit, its putting things in the right perspective and putting more value on what should be more valueable in life, of course religion is very important its our guide to right living and how to conduct ourselves in this world.
Gambling should take a back seat when it comes to religion, I know what is my priority and gambling for me is for entertainment and I can always leave it when religion matters needs my attention.
The Cause of depression in gambling is prioritizing more than what's important in life.

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That will be depends on how people views about gambling because playing gambling or not, they must realizes about the risks. If someone knows that gambling is prohibit by their religion, they will not playing gambling and will stay away from gambling, even if their family or friends asks them to playing gambling, they will refuses it. But some people still playing gambling, even if they knows that playing gambling is prohibits.

Every people will have their reason to playing gambling or stay away from gambling. We can't forces them to stay away or quit gambling if they still wants to keep playing gambling because that will be their decision and they must have responsibility to themselves. Maybe it's about morale on each people about gambling and how they will thinks about gambling.

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May 21, 2024, 02:55:04 PM
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Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling?


There’s no perfect human even cigarette smoking, drinking alcoholic beverages and anything that will harm yourself is not allowed on any religious belief yet people still doing this without any remorse or guilt therefore I don’t feel any conflict on my gambling as long as it didn’t harm me financially and mentally.

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How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?
Just like what I said above, I’m not considering my gambling activity as a sin since I’m not using in addictive manner. Just using it for leisure time activities.

Most of the religion is against gambling since it cause greed to people which is a sin. If people play casually without any greed feeling then it’s not a sin but just a typical entertainment activity.

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May 21, 2024, 03:16:37 PM
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Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

I’m an African Christian, religion here is mixed with tradition so much so that every denomination has its own doctrines and beliefs even though fundamentally we believe in the same God. That being said, I am not a religious person and do not confine my faith to doctrines of any kind. AFAIK, gambling is not a sin neither are tattoos or females wearing pants. Religious people will disagree but that’s my opinion on the subject.
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May 21, 2024, 05:06:09 PM
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It was a big issue in our big family before. I live with grandfather and his sons and daughter who are all religious. The traditional belief is never to gamble in front of anyone in our house but I know my Uncles are doing it outside.
I think I have never been in a position where I need to answer with what I do because back in the days we don't really gamble and we play cards with only a consequence of putting lipstick in the losers face until everything is filled with it. Grin
I gambled when I was still a teenager but never to the extent of spending way too much money just for it. Luckily, my guardians didn't have any clue about it so I am saved. Up until know they didn't know I gambled before and they also don't know that I am gambling today. I still have a firm belief that my relatives should know nothing about it so I won't tell.

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May 21, 2024, 05:21:01 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.
Ordinary... every religion in regulating every corner aims well. That's what I hold.

How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

As above, every religion has a good goal in regulating what is allowed and not allowed.
I see religious differences in terms of gambling are quite simple even in other fields. For me my religion, for them their religion.
If a religion prohibits gambling, then the reason behind the prohibition is due to the effect of gambling from a positive point of view.
For me, discussions related to religious differences in viewing gambling have a meeting point that can be felt by all gamblers who adhere to a particular religion.

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May 21, 2024, 05:24:01 PM
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It was a big issue in our big family before. I live with grandfather and his sons and daughter who are all religious. The traditional belief is never to gamble in front of anyone in our house but I know my Uncles are doing it outside.
I think I have never been in a position where I need to answer with what I do because back in the days we don't really gamble and we play cards with only a consequence of putting lipstick in the losers face until everything is filled with it. Grin
I gambled when I was still a teenager but never to the extent of spending way too much money just for it. Luckily, my guardians didn't have any clue about it so I am saved. Up until know they didn't know I gambled before and they also don't know that I am gambling today. I still have a firm belief that my relatives should know nothing about it so I won't tell.
In most areas people gamble the way they want without fear, that's why few people that's 18 and some few months are gambling even in the presence of their family or elderly ones which is not right to me. At my stage I can't gamble in the presence of my family and in the presence of anyone but it's not that am afraid of them but there is something wey called respect. One gave to respect him self so that he/she won feel bad when the elderly ones are talk about him/her. You know, elderly people they beliefs that since they are above you in age they can say anything they want not knowing it's not properly and if you are the type that doesn't endure some harsh words you mill talk back and it will result to something else. But when you are in the presence of your mates, I mean people who you are more closer to more (friends or family), you can gamble on their present and you guys can share booking codes together.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?
Some religion views gambling like evil or sin, which is the reason they don't encourage their members to be part of gambling and if they discover you are a gambler they will begin to see you as an evil person in the community because you are a gambler.  

My religion is not against gambling, but they are against addicted to gambling because once you are addicted to gambling you can do anything stupid just to get the money to gamble and it will also occupy your mind in a way you will not be thinking about your future, which are some of the things my religion hat about gambling.

I don't have any conflicts with gambling, but I just discovered that my parents don't like gambling which is the reason I don't want them to know I am a gambler, and they will never know because I have many codes in my phone which they cannot access my privacy.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas
There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?
Some religion views gambling like evil or sin, which is the reason they don't encourage their members to be part of gambling and if they discover you are a gambler they will begin to see you as an evil person in the community because you are a gambler.  

My religion is not against gambling, but they are against addicted to gambling because once you are addicted to gambling you can do anything stupid just to get the money to gamble and it will also occupy your mind in a way you will not be thinking about your future, which are some of the things my religion hat about gambling.

I don't have any conflicts with gambling, but I just discovered that my parents don't like gambling which is the reason I don't want them to know I am a gambler, and they will never know because I have many codes in my phone which they cannot access my privacy.

And there's nothing we can do about it but to accept on how they do have those kind of views towards gambling if its evil or sin. If we do really tend to look in overall then this kind of activity on which it isnt really that bad. The only bad thing is on the time that you do excessively deal with it on which we know that when things becomes excessive which it isnt really just that limited to gambling then you would really be finding yourself getting put into lots of trouble specially on the moment or condition that you arent that doing good decisions on things on which we know that it isnt really that just right that excessive engagement is something that you must do. Even if we dont really look into that biblical or religious approach and just make use of that ethical or sensible point of view on which it would really be that bad.

This is why on the moment that you are seeing someone who does have that kind of set of rules or religious prohibition about gambling then lets just respect it out and let people do follow
on what are those things that been preached out. Its a matter of respect of someones point of view or whatever they've been tending to follow.
Gamble for fun if ever you are really that tempted to play and dont make yourself that getting addicted.

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Well, this depends on every believers preferences whether they include religion on their gambling activity or not. But unfortunately, most gamblers I think do this thing where they seek guidance and luck from what they believe in especially as a catholican and I was once involved in this kind of scenario but I'm a changed man right now. I am not familiar with muslim countries since I know gambling is banned in their countries.



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May 21, 2024, 06:54:41 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?

As a Roman Catholic, I do think that gambling is not strictly prohibited by my religion. The only prohibition that I felt was during the sermons of the priests about over expenditure to the point of neglecting our daily and monthly obligations to our families. Other than that, I have not faced any sort of prohibition or any kind of halting from our religion.

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How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

There are some religions that strictly implement the prohibition of gambling.

One example here would be the Muslims and their religion. They see gambling as something that is forbidden in their religion1, to wit:

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According to the Quran, Muslims are forbidden to gamble.

Though this may be the case, there are still some muslim countries that have gambling on their country or at least some parts on their world. Obviously, we all know the negative effects of addiction in gambling and on how it could potentially destroy the lives of many if left uncontrolled.



1 https://ggbmagazine.com/article/gambling-in-the-muslim-world/

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


I think the major religions that we have today all dislike gambling most especially the ones with high denomination but I know of two main religious leaders that I have seen in a physical established gambling place, not ones and not twice I have seen them in that act and I don't know where to categorized them when they know that gambling is sinful or is that they don't care.

Today, many people see gambling as an opportunity rather than fun, and because the society is full of unemployed population, gambling has been the only source of lively hood to some people, if any men of God now decide to teach against the ways they pay them, they will either stop coming to the church or they will stop paying necessary fees like the tithes.

The world is now a civilized place where gambling is now common to everyone, even if they should teach against l it, it wouldn't stop people from playing because it's already in the system and you can't control what you don't build, they have to learn to live with it.

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May 21, 2024, 07:14:44 PM
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There are devoted Christians and Muslims that do gamble despite how much their religion prohibits it, you see them applying core discipline to it, and their lives tend to be more pleasing than even those that claim not to gamble because their religion frown at it. Same people that don't gamble still do take alcohol for the stomach sake.
I wouldn't limit it to the only two faith and beliefs. Not just Muslims and Christians that does it secretly. It's very likely that in some other known faith, despite that their teachings is not to gamble to avoid being greedy. There can be other root cause of it when it's outside gambling and yet, the result is the same and they still become greedy. But focusing with gambling, I guess it has become a normal thing when you hear some stories about a faithful or religious guy then have been seen some casino apps on their phone or into their devices.
Certainly not limited just to Christians and Muslims alone as other religions and it's faithfuls aren't exonerated, I only used  those two as reference point.

 Aside gambling or alcohol, these faithfuls do default on some other  teachings and commandments in their religion that are so immoral but as a result of their hatred for gamble they make it appear as though gambling is the worst of them all, but that's not true.  Nowadays, we have much of hypocrite in many religions and it socks whenever my path cross with such people. And it's for some of these reasons that we find some persons excluding themselves from any adherent of any religion in order to have freedom of enjoying whatever activity they love doing in as much as it doesn't cause harm to their next neighbor.



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May 21, 2024, 07:19:08 PM
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Our beliefs are what we live upon, i don't see gambling to be influenced by religious belief but it should be a judgement subjective to any individual. It matter of choice, of which each religion clearly want her participant to be guided and avoid any crisis from dubious habits of which gambling is one of them if not controlled and moderated.

Am not a fan of religion, I just believe everyone acknowledges God and live within his confined rules.
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May 21, 2024, 07:28:18 PM
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I think the major religions that we have today all dislike gambling most especially the ones with high denomination but I know of two main religious leaders that I have seen in a physical established gambling place, not ones and not twice I have seen them in that act and I don't know where to categorized them when they know that gambling is sinful or is that they don't care.

Today, many people see gambling as an opportunity rather than fun, and because the society is full of unemployed population, gambling has been the only source of lively hood to some people, if any men of God now decide to teach against the ways they pay them, they will either stop coming to the church or they will stop paying necessary fees like the tithes.

The world is now a civilized place where gambling is now common to everyone, even if they should teach against l it, it wouldn't stop people from playing because it's already in the system and you can't control what you don't build, they have to learn to live with it.
Some of those religious leaders contradicts their teachings that why i don't let my religion affect my lifestyle, so far am not doing the wrong or I'm allowing my gambling life affect me or people around me then I don't see anything wrong in what I do. If a religious leaders says something is not good then they should lead by example not condemning an act and going back to doing same act you condem. The rightful way of seeing gambling is as a means of entertainment or fun but I think those who leave in a society where the economy is bad, with little or no job opportunities to help reduce poverty rate have no choice than to look for any means of survival and if gambling is the only means they could get money from, then they'll see it as a means of survival so I don't blame them though. Funny enough the condemning of gambling is not even helping cause the Internet has made it easily for people to gamble secretly.

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May 21, 2024, 07:45:09 PM
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Although I also don't know much about religion, what I know naturally is that every religion wants the welfare of its followers. The rules of religion have been established by reviewing how a person conducts his life, he will be good or how he conducts his life will not have any negative impact on his life. In every religion evil aspects are prohibited. As far as I know no religion allows gambling. Actions that lead people to evil or the influence of which people may become evil are completely prohibited. Every religion has the same message when it comes to gambling. But there are many people of all religions who gamble despite knowing these truths. They are gambling by ignoring religion. What I understand is that if a person manages gambling without becoming addicted to it, he will not suffer much.

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May 21, 2024, 07:54:50 PM
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Many will say the same, but I guess it is because they aren't into Bible reading that deep, I understand but it is not true that there is no where in the Bible that says that gambling is a sin.

The first Timothy 6:9, 10 says the following..

Gambling even with the smallest amount can arouse a destructive love for money.

Isiah 65:11 says the following....

Gamblers often rely on superstitions or luck. However, God views such beliefs as a form of idolatry, which is incompatible with his worship.

When something isn't compatible with your God's worship that makes it a sin, some part sounds like protection of the people from destruction too but all saying the same thing.

Here is another, from the book of Galatians 5:26, it says

Gambling can arouse an unhealthy competitive spirit, which is disapproved in the Bible.

So now are we going to keep saying that there is nowhere in the Bible that says gambling is a sin?

I'm really not happy with the way you choose to misquote the bible all in the name to prove points, it is completely useless and this shows that you are not a Christian by religion and in a way be against it. The bible only talks about excessive love for money that triggers a get rich quick scheme which implies disobeying the commandments (like stealing and more) but no where did the bible talk about gambling.

People now see religion differently, the deal to one's eternity is something personal and not a matter of any religion. Religion is just like a step/guide towards achieving that eternity, so there are rules being laid by the fore rulers to help us in this our journey, this rules keeps us on the better part so we do not mistakenly fall into breaking those commandments. So I do not see how religion should affect me gambling.

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