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May 22, 2024, 06:07:42 AM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


Yeah this also happened to me first of all I live in Indonesia here Gambling is illegal so if you caught do gamble like traditional gamble in public you will get arrested.
Secondly also in Indonesia Muslim is majority is 85% of all population is Muslim I believe and in Islam gambling is also prohibited and both government and religion banned gambling because this is waste of money and if people cant control it it can be dangerous to other people which has many case.

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May 22, 2024, 12:30:36 PM
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I've chosen to gamble occasionally, that's my choice and it doesn't stop me from fulfilling my religious obligations too, so its a win win situation.

On a global level things look very good because the majority of people are very responsible with their religion and that is very good. In the Personal world I am a person who is always Aware of his things and does not neglect his spiritual growth. I too I am sure that every person in the world has a different spiritual growth and some are very different , that is why, given these things, there are people who cannot even play in a casino because of religion. My case is very particular because I feel that due to my spiritual growth I can do whatever I want, as long as things are not going to be bad for others or have a negative effect on others, I believe that these people should always do good actions and help others to continue growing as a Person and on a spiritual Level.

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May 22, 2024, 12:54:54 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

Obviously there are various barriers to gambling religiously but I ignore all those barriers and gamble because I love gambling. Excessive gambling leads to depression and restlessness which can lead to various problems. I also know the downsides of excessive gambling. I don't do anything that takes me outside of my natural sense. I gamble with small amounts of money and set a limit on my gambling on a monthly basis. If I lose my money before the specified time then I stop betting temporarily. I don't think any religion blames gambling unless it is addictive.

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May 22, 2024, 02:37:17 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

Actually, I've seen discussions about religion and gambling, but I don't know whether the contents of the threads are the same or not, but it comes back to each person because everyone has more views about legal issues in their religion, in my religion they teach not to gamble. because gambling has more losses than benefits, so it can harm yourself. If you gamble uncontrollably, you can become bankrupt or addicted to gambling, so there is a certain reason why my religion forbids it. unless it brings pleasure, perhaps the law will be different.

But so far I gamble just for fun so I don't think about how to win when playing gambling, even though there are probably many other hobbies that are fun for me, gambling is a fun game because I can use my cellphone to play even though there are many games on cellphones that can be played. I play but gambling triggers adrenaline so that's what makes it different from just a game, the point is that it goes back to the laws of each religion. Moreover, I'm not a religious expert so it's hard to say whether what I'm doing is right or wrong, everything comes back to each person's responsibility. each

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May 22, 2024, 04:12:12 PM
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The doctrine of the church I attend condemns gambling, and I don't really fall into the category of believers who agree that gambling is bad, despite my religion. I don't give a f*ck about anybody's opinion that gambling is bad. Due to the issues faced by addicted gamblers and also the problems they cause for others and for themselves, that's why gambling is condemned by some religions. The truth is that someone can be religiously included and yet a very responsible gambler who is gambling in share interest while having fun and making profit too.

I am a Christian, to be specific, and there is a passage in the Bible that says, "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.”.

This passage actually tells me one thing (keeps doing what is good for you but don't let it lead you to sin), which is that if I have any act or lifestyle that will cause me to sin, it could be to harm others or harm myself, that can escalate to a sin & lead me to hell, then I have to stop that attitude or lifestyle. If gambling is that lifestyle, then it should be stopped by the individual; if alcohol or drug addiction is that lifestyle, it should be stopped. Addiction is a sin and not gambling.

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May 22, 2024, 04:44:29 PM
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By the way, there is something interesting I have noticed by participating here in the forum for a couple of years and that is the important percentage of users who are living in muslin majority countries in Africa and Asia, specially Nigeria (where there is an important muslin population). Disregarding all of that, still there is a lot of people within the forum and the gambling section who actively partake in gambling as a form of entertainment or way to earn a quick buck (assuming they have got enough good luck). I would have imagined this forum demographics would have been translated into less people interested in gambling, but it turns out to be the contrary.

I even recall some user in the section who claimed to be Muslim and yet, he liked to gamble and he did not felt shame while doing it, in his mind, only Allah would be the only one powerfully enough to judge him, so disregarded the opinions and scolding of others within his religious community. It kind of says something on how the mentality of human beings can be very flexible for us to continue to partaken in what we like, in spite of our religious believes.

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May 23, 2024, 04:46:17 PM
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Exactly, I agree with your idea, on the other hand yes if we talk about whether gambling is prohibited or not in a religion then it is clear as you said that there are some religions that allow it but there are also some religions that strictly prohibit this activity by their followers which is one of them such as Islam, and if we talk or argue everything based on their respective religions then obviously I think it will never be finished and the problem will most likely become very complicated because of the difference of opinion.

But yes I think there is an easy way to simplify it and you have said something right above which is that we have to discuss this with a neutral point of view and realistically which is the fact that gambling can be a fun activity, but it can also be an activity that is very harmful to someone's life if done in the wrong way, And we can see how the state of someone who is already addicted, they always experience a lot of pressure and tension to stress and all of that happens as a result of treating gambling in the wrong way, meaning that something that can potentially destroy life should not be done and I believe that all religions must want the best for their people.
Following it or would be going against it will really be that totally be depending into someones decision and preference. Even if he does know that its prohibited but still continuing on dealing with it just because he/she do find it interesting or something that he/she really likes on dealing or playing with it then there's nothing you can do. People wont care if its a sin or not into religious approach or aspect. They dont really just that care because the thing that comes up into their mind is that playing gambling wont really be that a huge violation or prohibited thing as long they arent that putting someone in harm then its something that they will really be thinking up and this is why they do care less and would continuing on playing despite of those prohibitions and there's nothing we can do about it.

Belief or Choices? People would really be sticking into their choices on which this is something that be influenced on what are the things that comes up into someones mind on which it would be usually be sticking into the interest that they do have in mind. There are really things on which it shouldnt really be that trying out to connect because people would really be just that tending to stick out on what
are those things that they do want to deal with and doesnt matter if it goes against their Religion then they wont really care at all.

Yups that's right, everyone has a different mindset and way of thinking or point of view towards everything they find, as long as it makes them interested then usually they will do it regardless of whether the activity is prohibited or not in their religion, and I think it is a fact that there will be no prohibition or regulation if there is no one who violates it, meaning maybe they are some people who violate the rules that have been applied by their religion if they really insist on doing it and also if they are in a religion that violates the activity.

Everyone has selfish feelings within themselves, meaning that this is the reason why they prioritize their choices over their beliefs in the rules in their religion, on the other hand I cannot say whether the action is good or bad because however it depends on the rules in their religion, sometimes even though for example there is a strict prohibition it does not mean they will follow the prohibitions in their religion because as I said that everyone has selfish feelings which can make them prioritize their desires.


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However, people still gamble for various reasons.
We can assume that the people who still gamble are not from the religion that prohibits it or if they are they are not very religious. In reality too, almost every religion is averse to gambling, Islam is the only one I know that expressly prohibits any form of riba which will include gambling and also investing in Bitcoin, but Christianity is not welcoming of gambling either or any other religion for that matter.

I do not expect anyone to openly here discuss how they participate in something that is expressly prohibited by their religion.
I believe that there are still people who play gambling even if their religion restricts it. It is the same as to those who still do a crime and other illegalities even if they knew that it was wrong.

Yes, a very religious person is too kind and won't do things that they think are not generally accepted by the public including gambling even though their bible didn't say anything to it, or didn't say that it was not allowed. Really, Islam restricts BTC investing too? Damn, I think that's crazy but how is it possible when BTC have only existed in 2009/2010? I think what can mostly restrict BTC is the law or the government but they also can have it anyway.

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It was a big issue in our big family before. I live with grandfather and his sons and daughter who are all religious. The traditional belief is never to gamble in front of anyone in our house but I know my Uncles are doing it outside.
I think I have never been in a position where I need to answer with what I do because back in the days we don't really gamble and we play cards with only a consequence of putting lipstick in the losers face until everything is filled with it. Grin
I gambled when I was still a teenager but never to the extent of spending way too much money just for it. Luckily, my guardians didn't have any clue about it so I am saved. Up until know they didn't know I gambled before and they also don't know that I am gambling today. I still have a firm belief that my relatives should know nothing about it so I won't tell.
You passed through a lot, because once traditional beliefs are against gambling, it hard for you to have freedom in gambling because you will be gambling secretly for your grandfather and his son not to know that you are disobeying the the law of the traditional beliefs.

I know you are no longer living with your grandfather and his son, which I no that the secret of gambling in a private way, it will be more secure for you to gamble secretly as long you want to remain in gambling.

I believe your earning is more higher than your losing, because you must experience the two from the gambling which are very common among gamblers that gamble public or private in the gambling.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


I am not a complete follower of the religion and often I consider myself not related with any religion at all but I do believe in God not just the rules wrote on books which can't fit in this 21st century. Sure I see lot of people say gambling is wrong, so does lying and so does cheating and anything else like that but still they chose to do it then they have no right to ask me what I do and don't want to. And by the way love your life in the way you want and don't let anyone to interfere with your choices.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


I am not a complete follower of the religion and often I consider myself not related with any religion at all but I do believe in God not just the rules wrote on books which can't fit in this 21st century. Sure I see lot of people say gambling is wrong, so does lying and so does cheating and anything else like that but still they chose to do it then they have no right to ask me what I do and don't want to. And by the way love your life in the way you want and don't let anyone to interfere with your choices.
Dont have any religion? This sounds new to me on which each person would really be something that having that at least unless if you dont believe on God or something be called atheist then it wont be shocking imho.

Well, there are really things that are really that different on which on the moment that you do see some odd then you would really be tending to compare it out or would really be seeing those differences.
We do know that when it comes to gambling then it is mostly that being pertained or reflected out to be a bad thing because it would be always that mainly projected most of the time on what are the results or conditions that it would really be able to give out. Gambling would be that projected to be mostly a bad thing on which you would really be ended up on getting addicted but of course it would really be something that will really be that situational.

Most of religions would be having that negative views towards about gambling or even considered to be a bad thing or being prohibited. This is why it would really be better that
on the moment that you would really be that involving with gambling but having that prohibition then it would really be just that depending on how you would really be that neither following or not.
It would really be that situational because each one of us would really be having their choices whether you would be going against since about religion but if you dont care
then you would definitely do it.
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This is not about whether a gambling activity is good or bad, nor about whether a gambling activity is haram or halal. However, more precisely it is a matter of whether you like or dislike gambling, because regarding whether gambling is good or bad, whether gambling is halal or haram, it is written in the Bible, it is a provision from the Almighty and cannot be contested, changed or opposed by anyone. and most religions state that gambling is an activity that is considered bad and haram for those who do it. so what is there to worry about? all religious communities know this and the law prohibits gambling. And if he really is a servant who is devout and obedient to the teachings of his religion and to his god, then never mind gambling, you won't even approach him. And as for those religious people who gamble, that means they are servants who are disobedient to religious teachings and their god, it's not that they don't know the law. Because when someone likes gambling or more than that, then he will ignore everything, including the teachings of the religion he adheres to.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

I think why religion don't like Gambling is for the fact that it takes people attention and when it takes their attention, it doesn't give them to worship God as they want else I don't think there is any way self gambling with money that you can afford to lose is actually a sin before God. I know of a Muslim, they see gambling because it's ab act of greed, you are trying to use small money to win large amount of money and because Quran is a religion by word teaching, I respect that but I do gamble when I have the time and pray when it's time.

The only time I wouldn't support gambling is perhaps when they call Fajr and you refuse to go and pray or you are consume with gambling to the point thy you are addicted, that's when I see that as something not good. As a true believer of God, pray when it's time and come back to gamble, maybe is because I just stake my game and go back to my routine life, I don't spend much time in gambling, if you are not close to me, you would hardly see me gambling.

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Yes sometimes some people have their different opinions on regions i’m sometimes because of the heartbreaks on gambling and lots of money some religion prohibited, because sometimes people die because of gambling after taking the whole money they have like I mean, using the live service to stay gambling after settle down the feedback about it a lot and sometimes it’s result to death or heart attack I feel religion don’t accept it



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May 24, 2024, 02:25:32 AM
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However, people still gamble for various reasons.
We can assume that the people who still gamble are not from the religion that prohibits it or if they are they are not very religious. In reality too, almost every religion is averse to gambling, Islam is the only one I know that expressly prohibits any form of riba which will include gambling and also investing in Bitcoin, but Christianity is not welcoming of gambling either or any other religion for that matter.
Gambling is forbidden in Quran. That is why you will see Muslim countries that are strict against gambling. But in Christianity, gambling is not forbidden in Bible. Although you can see Christian religious leaders forbidden it as they count it as a love for money which is the root of evil.

The reason was simple, religious people believed gambling is owned by devils. I don't know where you can find in the bible that states gambling is a sin
No where in the Bible that says gambling is a sin.

That's right gambling isn't a sin, but it ain't a righteous act either! Its a rather tabu subject in some religions such as Muslim mentioned above, but even in the christian church its definitely not like promoted to gamble. Its not talked about in church unless its part of the message at least as a Christian. I personally think that there are so many things that could be considered synonymous with gambling you can't get away from gambling in some sort of way of fashion!

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Opinions differ here across regions and religions on whether religion works for gambling. All religions are not the same just as different religions have different rules. Even though gambling is prohibited in many religions, gamblers do not want to accept it they gamble. In Islam people believe in the Quran but gambling is forbidden here. Those who are more religious may stay away from gambling for fear of death. Many people in Christianity and Hinduism believe in gambling and consider it fashionable.

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Opinions differ here across regions and religions on whether religion works for gambling. All religions are not the same just as different religions have different rules. Even though gambling is prohibited in many religions, gamblers do not want to accept it they gamble. In Islam people believe in the Quran but gambling is forbidden here. Those who are more religious may stay away from gambling for fear of death. Many people in Christianity and Hinduism believe in gambling and consider it fashionable.

On point! It depends to a religion because like what you've said, it is strictly prohibited for Islam/Muslim Religion and majority of muslim person really follow what's stated in their Qouran but I'm just wondering because some person with a religion that prohibited gambling are also doing gambling but they hide it in other people, sometimes they will fake their religion when someone ask them because some of us are aware if a person is allowed to gamble or not and if they can prove or say what their religion is, of course we will only do what is appropriate, we can give them advice or we will stopping them because that is forbidden. We also need to follow and respect especially when it comes to other people's beliefs and culture when it comes to gambling.



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May 24, 2024, 06:09:50 AM
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Opinions differ here across regions and religions on whether religion works for gambling. All religions are not the same just as different religions have different rules. Even though gambling is prohibited in many religions, gamblers do not want to accept it they gamble. In Islam people believe in the Quran but gambling is forbidden here. Those who are more religious may stay away from gambling for fear of death. Many people in Christianity and Hinduism believe in gambling and consider it fashionable.

I don't think that gambling in Christianity is considered fashionable though. They are also against any form of gambling, although not explicitly mentioned in the Bible that it is a sin, buy it did mentioned that "love of money" is the root cause of all evil.

In any case, it's our decision to gamble, whether we are Christians and Hindus, even practicing religion person could fall for gambling and uses a lot of excuse just to play. No one is stopping us from gambling, and if you think you be happy then by all means play despite what your religious denomination is.

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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?


I am not a complete follower of the religion and often I consider myself not related with any religion at all but I do believe in God not just the rules wrote on books which can't fit in this 21st century. Sure I see lot of people say gambling is wrong, so does lying and so does cheating and anything else like that but still they chose to do it then they have no right to ask me what I do and don't want to. And by the way love your life in the way you want and don't let anyone to interfere with your choices.
Dont have any religion? This sounds new to me on which each person would really be something that having that at least unless if you dont believe on God or something be called atheist then it wont be shocking imho.

I didn't say any religion but not following it anymore for a while but atheist is different who don't believe in the existence of God which I don't agree too. I am trying to apply my common sense with the religion as well, there has to be some reason why they used to restrict something from do it.

Here we are talking about gambling so in my opinion religions are against it because thousands of years back people might not be living as what we did so they needed something beyond so they named it as Gpd to keep them disciplined but today it's totally different and we know what they said gambling is bad cause once you are into it you can lose everything you got while now we have system called money and we can choose how much we want to use it based on how much we make.


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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?



I see it that everyone has different perspective and point of view concerning gambling and placing it alongside with ones religion is usually seen as something awkward or like a sin rather but then not withstanding the religious act of one,a lot of religious believers are also gambling,so how do you place this,so definitely gambling and religion don't usually work together it's either your a gambler who's not a religious type or a religious type who's not a gambler and sometimes some might be hiding the fact that they are religious but yet gamble in the secret.
That's why I would take it that it's not about one's beliefs it's a matter of choice,cause we tend to belief in our religion but deviate to work in line with our choices.

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