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August 08, 2024, 09:40:51 PM
Last edit: August 08, 2024, 10:20:28 PM by Obari
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I don’t know how best to say this but religion is another great problem if a common man in my country and the truth be told that, the society we have now are easily influenced by what people say and as such, want to dance to the tone of the hat people have to say and churches and religion isn’t exempted.

I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.

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August 08, 2024, 10:15:23 PM
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However, many people are condemning gamble because it's a thing that is risky (100%), imagine when you are putting money on something and it's retuning it back in double fold, you won't condemn it because you are profiting. Most people condemns gamble because when they gamble they lose and they said it's not a thing for them. However I respect any one who gamble and quit because it's not easy for a gambler to quite when he already knows how to bet.
You aren't saying something far from the truth because I have not seen too many people who win from the casino frequently getting to criticize the casino enough, it's been those who probably loose from the casinos that are easily associated with almost every form of negativity that can be taught about from the casino and as it affects their lives too. Gambling isn't a very heathy something to do but at same time, it's not that terrible that we would want to write it off so bad like the way most persons has been doing. Anyone who gambles and quit after several losses, has his or her own advantage because they can be sure to be in check to a very great extent but otherwise addiction may be the next stop.

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August 08, 2024, 10:17:08 PM
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There are some religions that have strict views on gambling, some considering it morally wrong. However, people still gamble for various reasons.

Have you ever faced any conflicts between your religious beliefs versus gambling? How it happen and how did you handle it?
How do different religions view gambling? What could be the reasons behind it?

In Islam there is no more bargaining regarding gambling, gambling is strictly prohibited, even this prohibition is clearly written in the Quran. Although many of us want to gamble responsibly, it is still prohibited in Islam. I am a Muslim, I know that gambling is prohibited but all humans have a choice, if not gambling then it is not sinful and if gambling then it is sinful. I choose to gamble because it is a choice even though it has consequences in religion. I don't know whether gambling is strictly prohibited in other religions or not, but what is clear is that gambling is identical to bad behavior.

It is not without reason that gambling is strictly prohibited in Islam, because gambling is an activity that has the potential to drain wealth quickly without any benefits. In Islam we are taught to maintain and be able to utilize wealth in a good and useful way. If gambling actually teaches bad habits in managing wealth and can cause poverty and misery. In addition, gambling is also often associated with bad behavior such as fraud, and dishonesty and even criminal acts. Whereas in Islam we are taught to uphold the values ​​of honesty and good morals in all aspects of life. And there are many other reasons why gambling is strictly prohibited in Islam.

However, it cannot be denied that I live in a country where the majority of the population is Muslim, but my country is included in the top five online gambling players in the world. So I think gambling is a matter of choice.

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August 08, 2024, 10:38:31 PM
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I don’t know how best to say this but religion is another great problem if a common man in my country and the truth be told that, the society we have now are easily influenced by what people say and as such, want to dance to the tone of the hat people have to say and churches and religion isn’t exempted.

I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
The religions do not completely discriminate against gambling entirely what they are against is the effect of gambling addicts on society and people around gamblers who are addicted or new to gambling. So, they rather advise that as a religious person, you should quit gambling so that other negative habits that come after losing or winning I bet will be avoided.

There are people who when they lose put their anger on people around them like their family and friends which is wrong. Some would rather starve their family but would prefer to drink, smoke, and gamble every day. Such habits are not meant to be justified. If an African religion sees gambling as a bad habit, then it is for good.

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August 08, 2024, 10:44:56 PM
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In reality, both gambling and religion are polar opposites, especially in a religion when peace is reviewed, gambling is responsible for most of the unrest.
A gambler cannot be religious at the same time because Islam gambling has never had a place especially in my religion.
You may well notice that gambling can cause many problems socially and everyone knows that gambling causes many problems. Religion never gives place to a ruler who creates social problems.
Due to gambling, important social problems such as family conflict, misery, many social crimes, especially kidnapping, women abuse, murder and drug addiction are created.
So in my opinion religion and gambling have no place in my religion at the same time and it has been declared completely haram by Islamic Sharia rules.

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August 08, 2024, 11:37:50 PM
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In reality, both gambling and religion are polar opposites, especially in a religion when peace is reviewed, gambling is responsible for most of the unrest.
A gambler cannot be religious at the same time because Islam gambling has never had a place especially in my religion.
You may well notice that gambling can cause many problems socially and everyone knows that gambling causes many problems. Religion never gives place to a ruler who creates social problems.
Due to gambling, important social problems such as family conflict, misery, many social crimes, especially kidnapping, women abuse, murder and drug addiction are created.
So in my opinion religion and gambling have no place in my religion at the same time and it has been declared completely haram by Islamic Sharia rules.


While I agree on your take on the incompatibility religion and gambling could present between themselves, I believe you are exaggerating the social problems with are directly created by gambling, it is true it can create some problems and cause unrest among gamblers, specially those who cannot control themselves and manage bankroll, but in my opinion, drugs and alcohol (actually illicit substances) have more weight on the behavior a person can have and how badly their future could be affected.
Gambling addiction develops slowly, it can be caught on time before ruins a family beyond fixing, on the other hand, alcohol and drugs can change dramatically the situation of a person in a less than a week or up to a month , if the person drinks regularly...

In general, religion is against all of that, drugs, alcohol, gambling, but one needs to see how different the impact to society is from each one of those.

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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.

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August 11, 2024, 09:59:09 AM
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I don’t know how best to say this but religion is another great problem if a common man in my country and the truth be told that, the society we have now are easily influenced by what people say and as such, want to dance to the tone of the hat people have to say and churches and religion isn’t exempted.

I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.

And what would he think of you advertising, signature, is there a difference in that, with your religious leader if he finds out, sometimes you have to preach what you profess.

And that is the issue here with the attitude of those who say they are followers of religion, for example your case, in your words it is more important for you to hide your gambling vices with your pastor than to do it for the sake of your religion.

It is incomprehensible, you should be faithful to your religion regardless of whether your pastor finds out or not that you gamble or promote a casino. (imo)

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August 11, 2024, 10:28:16 AM
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I don’t know how best to say this but religion is another great problem if a common man in my country and the truth be told that, the society we have now are easily influenced by what people say and as such, want to dance to the tone of the hat people have to say and churches and religion isn’t exempted.

I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.

And what would he think of you advertising, signature, is there a difference in that, with your religious leader if he finds out, sometimes you have to preach what you profess.

And that is the issue here with the attitude of those who say they are followers of religion, for example your case, in your words it is more important for you to hide your gambling vices with your pastor than to do it for the sake of your religion.

It is incomprehensible, you should be faithful to your religion regardless of whether your pastor finds out or not that you gamble or promote a casino. (imo)
Don’t get things twisted and it’s not about preaching what you practice and the reason I wouldn’t want my pastor get to know that I gamble is because firstly I respect him and just to correct the fact that you speak like the religion is against gambling which is wrong and the only reason I wouldn’t want my pastor get to know that I gamble at times is for personal reasons.

I’m sure you’re not from my country else you’ll get to understand and also relate more better.
Let’s just say the case with cryptocurrency, not everyone would want to openly declare they hold bitcoin in my country and this is because crypto is mostly associated with scammers and as a legitimate holder, you wouldn’t want to be identified as a scammer and this is just the case with gambling as gamblers in my country mostly at grassroot level are seen as irresponsible and will you be tagged as irresponsible because you gamble?

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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.
Never ever make yourself having that kind of thinking that gambling could really be that our passive income because this isnt really just that right on having such approach. There are really those individuals who do wrecked up their lives just because of having that kind of perceptions towards it. As for gambling dealing or engagement then if you do found out that this is something that opposes into your beliefs principle or simply being that prohibited by the religion you do have then it would really be just that depending on you whether you would really be that trying out to go against with the rules or scriptures or not.
It would really be that everything be basing up into your own preference and decisions on dealing not only just that limited to gambling but also in other things in life as well.

Majority of Churches or religion would really be having that negative views or even prohibited gambling yet it do symbolized greed and could really that mess up someones life on which its not really
that literally true if we are really that thinking up sensible or well. It would really bejust that everything be varying on someones decisions on how they do deal up with things.
Choices i would say on why people do really mess up their lives because they do make themselves delusional.

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August 11, 2024, 01:44:45 PM
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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.

It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.

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August 11, 2024, 05:42:36 PM
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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.

It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.
I don’t think there is any religion that clearly kicks against gambling atleast not Christianity which is the center of concentration on here now.
It’s not basically about the religion that would make people not want to open up on their gambling activities but rather, the societal sight of it which makes it seem, gamblers are irresponsible people which I’m sure, not all gamblers are irresponsible not currently this modern day gamblers.

Everyone has the right to live their lives their way and make decisions of theirs as long as they’re 18 years and above but the truth is, there are some activities you wouldn’t want to be identified with m, possibly because of the neighborhood and society you find yourself.

In the modern worlds, gambling is more of a social activity and an irresponsible for of life wastage as some underdeveloped society presume it to be and I’m sure you already know that, the acceptances of a gambler in the modern world will be totally different from the opposite ones.


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August 14, 2024, 02:37:19 AM
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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.

It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.

And if you are a religious person, I do not know if you will stir on gambling. I mean you could be in the church not just on Sundays or any day of worship, so there will be no time for you to think about gambling.

But for those who we called non-practicing their religions, they can easily fall for this trap to gamble and not think about their religion. Although in my experience and it's quite funny, when you see gamblers beside you in a traditional based casinos, all praying to their Gods. That's the ironic case though, why involved the Highest Being in your gambling? I do not think that it will influence the outcome in your favor, just saying.

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And what would he think of you advertising, signature, is there a difference in that, with your religious leader if he finds out, sometimes you have to preach what you profess.

It is incomprehensible, you should be faithful to your religion regardless of whether your pastor finds out or not that you gamble or promote a casino. (imo)
Correct, there are so many hypocrite.

They said that their religion forbid gambling because bla bla bla, but at the same time they get money from gambling, it's okay when someone didn't realize if they earn money from gambling, but if they already know it from the starts, it doesn't make sense at all.

So in my opinion religion and gambling have no place in my religion at the same time and it has been declared completely haram by Islamic Sharia rules.
Don't forget that it's not only the activity where gambling is haram, but receiving the money direct or indirectly associated with gambling is haram too. Wink

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August 14, 2024, 03:58:47 AM
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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.
I agree with you, but on the other hand, every religion does teach morals and goodness so that there are many prohibitions and also quite strict regulations from each existing religion.
It just that over time all the prohibitions and regulations that exist have begun to be forgotten or slowly people consider religious rules and prohibitions not so important and this is why many things that are religious prohibitions are widely done by everyone from all walks of life.
This applies to almost all existing religions, indeed there are some who obey but there are also quite lot of people who violate it, this is choice and of course in an era of development like this, prohibitions and laws seem to no longer apply.
I think it nonsense with conscience because most people don't seem to have one and we find it difficult to find people who can still have an attitude like that.

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August 14, 2024, 06:41:22 AM
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I don’t have to speak for other countries but my country is one country that have very strong religion impact on it and as a person I wouldn’t want my religion leader to get to find out about my gambling habit and I think this is also applicable to a lot of other persons as well.
It is really a very sensitive issue especially if your religion frowns at gambling. I think it is just a thing of mindset because gambling is just like a means of making passive income that when done properly might not lead the individual into wrong actions except for the case of gamble addicts that displays all manners of bad character that are not in agreement of some religious doctrines. Nevertheless, most of these things behold on the individual to work with his conscience for what is right and what is wrong, this I consider the greater manifestation of religious beliefs.

It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.

I agree with you and don't want to sound harsh but I see a lot of people using religious terms while they are playing in casino chat like Muslim greetings and the Islamic religion is the more strict of all when it comes to restrictions.A lot of such people I assume are Muslims from their names in the chat so I think they just follow religion because their ancestors did so and not because they care much about religion,that is why they gamble freely.

From Christian religion a whole lot more persons gamble and for the same reason,they say they are Christians because that was what their ancestors were doing.Religion in the era of online gambling is not a problem anymore.

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August 14, 2024, 07:02:40 AM
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It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.

I do not support religion stopping people from gambling, everybody should be allowed to make decisions about their life on their own and we should not impose decisions on them because it makes us to be cage in our own life. I might be muslim but still love to gamble because I am doing it for fun. Gambling should not be based on beliefs but it should be a choice and when we are allowed to make our individual choices, we can know if gambling is good for us or if it is bad for us to stop. Being forced, make us to do it illegally and then the addictions come because of the feeling we get from doing something that makes us look mad and we would not capable of stopping it as we have gotten addicted to gambling. People with free will make better life decision than people that do not have it

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August 14, 2024, 11:50:56 AM
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It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.
I do not support religion stopping people from gambling, everybody should be allowed to make decisions about their life on their own and we should not impose decisions on them because it makes us to be cage in our own life. I might be muslim but still love to gamble because I am doing it for fun. Gambling should not be based on beliefs but it should be a choice and when we are allowed to make our individual choices, we can know if gambling is good for us or if it is bad for us to stop. Being forced, make us to do it illegally and then the addictions come because of the feeling we get from doing something that makes us look mad and we would not capable of stopping it as we have gotten addicted to gambling. People with free will make better life decision than people that do not have it
We must realizes that playing gambling can make us in trouble and that will be difficult to solve the problem. Maybe we know that playing gambling is prohibit in our religion but we still want to playing gambling. We decide by ourselves and not because of other people or religion because if other people force us to stops playing gambling while we still want to playing gambling, we will do that by secret. The more other people prohibit us, the more we will search for a way to still playing gambling.

If we realizes that playing gambling is one of the sin or prohibit in our religion, we will stops playing gambling without objection or force because we admitted that playing gambling can makes us lose the money. If we lose the money, we can't fills our daily needs and we can't survive to pass our daily life. Realization will needed and necessary to stops from playing gambling so we don't feel any forcing from other people or because of our religion. We responsible with ourselves so we must know how to treat gambling as an entertainment.

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August 27, 2024, 08:35:44 PM
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It is quite different on my part but with respect to all religions, for me, it is a decision of the person if they want to play gambling because its their life and its their choice, because they hard-earned that money so they have a source of income so they can use that money whenever and whatever they want to. Now its up to them if they want to continue this activity even though its against their beliefs if they get feel less if they disobey their rules.
I do not support religion stopping people from gambling, everybody should be allowed to make decisions about their life on their own and we should not impose decisions on them because it makes us to be cage in our own life. I might be muslim but still love to gamble because I am doing it for fun. Gambling should not be based on beliefs but it should be a choice and when we are allowed to make our individual choices, we can know if gambling is good for us or if it is bad for us to stop. Being forced, make us to do it illegally and then the addictions come because of the feeling we get from doing something that makes us look mad and we would not capable of stopping it as we have gotten addicted to gambling. People with free will make better life decision than people that do not have it
We must realizes that playing gambling can make us in trouble and that will be difficult to solve the problem. Maybe we know that playing gambling is prohibit in our religion but we still want to playing gambling. We decide by ourselves and not because of other people or religion because if other people force us to stops playing gambling while we still want to playing gambling, we will do that by secret. The more other people prohibit us, the more we will search for a way to still playing gambling.

If we realizes that playing gambling is one of the sin or prohibit in our religion, we will stops playing gambling without objection or force because we admitted that playing gambling can makes us lose the money. If we lose the money, we can't fills our daily needs and we can't survive to pass our daily life. Realization will needed and necessary to stops from playing gambling so we don't feel any forcing from other people or because of our religion. We responsible with ourselves so we must know how to treat gambling as an entertainment.
It all matters on someones perception when it comes into this manner on which on the moment that you do find yourself become that too greedy when playing gambling then it would be better that you should really be stopping completely specially on the time that you are already compromising your finances on which we know that it would really be that a huge problem later on, on the time that you do have that uncontrolled condition or behavior on which this is really the main problem for most gamblers specially in talking or speaking about moderation and control. As for gambling and religion then there are actually
religions who do really prohibit gambling but majority of them do really allow, but for me it would really be that just depending on you whether you would really be that being impulsive or not.

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August 27, 2024, 08:52:26 PM
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in terms of people's attitudes, they differ in choosing their views, all religions must have a history of books to choose the right path. but that is the right of each because there are many different opinions. even though religion provides the right guidance, there must still be many people who violate it or because of certain things. whether gambling for entertainment or looking for luck.

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