What to make of members such as "EtihadBitcoin"

[JollyGood]

This member EtihadBitcoin is showing as "This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity" because they last made a post in December 2017. For some unknown reason EtihadBitcoin woke up to make an unnecessary post in a thread that was last posted in two months ago.

Though we cannot understand the mindset of every member that behaves in strange ways, what do accounts such as these aim to achieve when ultimately they are simply wasting their time (especially accounts that have already been tagged and will not be taken seriously nor be able to receive weekly money by enrolling on signature campaigns).

I would not create a thread each time a member wakes up after years of sleeping to make a dubious post but the question remains about why they do it when it looks like a time wasting exercise on their part.

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[mindrust]

Nothing? Waking up from from inactivity doesn’t tell very much about the account. The account might be an alt of somebody or maybe it is a bought account but we can only make guesses. Unless he makes some serious mistakes, we will never know what really happened. We have been seeing newly created accounts that know everything about the forum politics too. That’s way weirder than returning from inactivity.

Or maybe he just decided to participate again…   

[holydarkness]

Agree with above.

Though, IIRC, in the past I occasionally interacted with such accounts, and that I noticed there are accounts from time to time who got up and necrobumping threads, or pseudo-necro bumping, most of the time, it's best to do nothing and ignore them.

More often than not, those posts are pointless that add no benefit to the necromanced thread, given the topic has long been resolved or no longer become relevant. Or perhaps those post are borderline "OOT" by promoting their service without seemingly bother to grasp the nature of the topic in the thread, with the sole purpose of promoting their platform, like [urlhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2748297;sa=showPosts]this one[/url].

Best approach, most of the times, unless the post contain misleading information, is to ignore them, as engaging in those necro-bumped post will make us also bumping that thread [who deserve to be silently drowned by other threads in peace].

As for why... hmm... sold accounts? Or perhaps like SheldonCobb above, having a bitter experience with one or two projects and decided to spare no mercy on the entire crypto platform.

[SamReomo]

It's better to avoid or ignore such members because they can't do any good and that's why keep bumping the old threads. I believe mindrust is right, it could be an alt account of someone else.

The best answer would always be to avoid such members who aren't ranked and who haven't contributed any good thing to the forum.

There's chance that such users want to grab attention of other users in order to get merits but most probably they're only spammers and they'll continue their spamming habits even after being inactive for many years.

[yahoo62278]

It's entirely possible that someone bought the account as well and is clueless about the trust system or forum rules.

My guess is my above thought is not the case, but possible.

[SmartGold01]

I have actually gone through the profile and I noticed that after waking up from long period of inactive for years as op said the very next place he could post is sportsbet.io gang, this made it looks so suspicious that this could possibly be either a total newbie, or altcoin account. I can't say with full assurance but it quite a thing of questioning, however why I couldn't go further of putting attention is because the said username is just newbie. Maybe Lovesmayfamilis could do more findings on that account, I trust her for that.

Btw, the said user seems to had got involved in buying account without a total knowledge of how the forum works.

[BabyBandit]

Normally I don't care about things like this, but I want to reply on this one and I will try to do it will all respect to OP and this will be a bit off-topic so sorry about that.

What to make of members such as "EtihadBitcoin"

Maybe just leave him/her alone and mind your own business and if he/she break any rules take action? I don't understand why you are so obsessed with giving every newbie/wake up member feedback on the forum? maybe it was someone that just decided to come back here again? I don't understand do you need to be active on this forum all day everyday every week and month year after year for not being tagged? That's strange.
You know it's a life outside this forum to mate? Some people don't have time to be here 24/7 A
nd also.. it's a newbie, how do you even find it worth spending time on? What you think he/she gonna do or can do? I am seriously asking and wonder. And instead of creating this topic why not just send him/her a PM and just ask?

Though we cannot understand the mindset of every member that behaves in strange ways

You don't have to, everyone is different and that's the beauty of life. What is strange for you may be normal for someone else.

I would not create a thread each time a member wakes up after years of sleeping to make a dubious post but the question remains about why they do it when it looks like a time wasting exercise on their part.

That''s a good thing.

they are simply wasting their time

Do you speak about wasting time? Look how your spending your own time first that's the only important thing for you.


And I know I am far away from perfect myself and I have not behave the best here at the start, but I had a break and I learned and improved and then came back and now I am trying to be a better person for every day that goes on.


And just my worthless shitty opinion is to relax a little bit and leave people alone until they break any rules or if they are super suspicious and then and only then you can jump in with your thing and post your feedback's.
Because I think you want to do this for good reasons but it may happen that you are going way to far and new members will stop to show up, don't we all want the forum and community to grow biger?
Why is it so hard to work together instead of against each other?

It's entirely possible that someone bought the account as well and is clueless about the trust system or forum rules.

My guess is my above thought is not the case, but possible.

Brother I think you right, on the last row. I don't think anyone would buy a newbie account? 
Have a great one, respect to you!


/ BabyB.

[JollyGood]

Or maybe he just decided to participate again…  

Stranger things have happened (but I doubt that is the case here)  

As for why... hmm... sold accounts? Or perhaps like SheldonCobb above, having a bitter experience with one or two projects and decided to spare no mercy on the entire crypto platform.

If the account has been traded, it will probably eventually become apparent over the days when the account is actually active but it does not seem it has been sold. The pattern of posting is somewhat counterproductive and that was what stood out for me when he returned to the forum to make an unnecessary post nearly 7 years after his last post.

There's chance that such users want to grab attention of other users in order to get merits but most probably they're only spammers and they'll continue their spamming habits even after being inactive for many years.

I could be wrong but that does not seem to be the case with this member.

It's entirely possible that someone bought the account as well and is clueless about the trust system or forum rules.

There was not a change of email address but that does not mean a sale could not have taken place. It has been known for some time that email addresses and signed messages are included as part of the account sales process but it does not look as though a sale has taken place here.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Any account that suddenly woke up after last being active in 2017 (specifically that year, because if I'm not mistaken there was a hack or a mass selling of accounts) should raise eyebrows.  I've caught a lot of accounts that changed hands from that era, and I think I tagged many of them a while back.

The end of 2017 was when a lot of shitposting members who'd been in those lousy ICO bounties took off after the crash, so even if an account hack or sale has nothing to do with someone waking up, I suspect they're coming back for a reason--and that reason would be to start making money again somehow.  

Are bounties even still a thing anymore?  I haven't checked the bounty subsection of the altcoin board in a while, so I don't know what's going on with them these days.  In any case, EtihadBitcoin deserves to have a set of eyes focused on him by anyone concerned with forum post quality or account sales or what have you.  There might not be anything malicious going on (yet), but this does raise a red flag for me.  Then again, I'm about as paranoid as a bitcointalk member can get.

Maybe just leave him/her alone and mind your own business and if he/she break any rules take action? I don't understand why you are so obsessed with giving every newbie/wake up member feedback on the forum?

On any other forum I'd probably agree with you, but not on this one.  There was so much BS happening prior to the merit system being implemented, it was ridiculous, and that's when this member was last active here.

[BabyBandit]

Any account that suddenly woke up after last being active in 2017 (specifically that year, because if I'm not mistaken there was a hack or a mass selling of accounts) should raise eyebrows.  I've caught a lot of accounts that changed hands from that era, and I think I tagged many of them a while back.

The end of 2017 was when a lot of shitposting members who'd been in those lousy ICO bounties took off after the crash, so even if an account hack or sale has nothing to do with someone waking up, I suspect they're coming back for a reason--and that reason would be to start making money again somehow.  

Are bounties even still a thing anymore?  I haven't checked the bounty subsection of the altcoin board in a while, so I don't know what's going on with them these days.  In any case, EtihadBitcoin deserves to have a set of eyes focused on him by anyone concerned with forum post quality or account sales or what have you.  There might not be anything malicious going on (yet), but this does raise a red flag for me.  Then again, I'm about as paranoid as a bitcointalk member can get.

Maybe just leave him/her alone and mind your own business and if he/she break any rules take action? I don't understand why you are so obsessed with giving every newbie/wake up member feedback on the forum?

On any other forum I'd probably agree with you, but not on this one.  There was so much BS happening prior to the merit system being implemented, it was ridiculous, and that's when this member was last active here.

Hey man, thanks for explaining for me so I understand it from a better perspective. Appreciate you man!  

Are bounties even still a thing anymore?  I haven't checked the bounty subsection of the altcoin board in a while

I don't know what bounties is. Is it that what newbies doing? is it illegal or do they cheat with multiply accounts?

[SamReomo]

I could be wrong but that does not seem to be the case with this member.

You may not be wrong, what's your assumption about that member? I believe such moves are quite strange because a user who hasn't been active on the forum for many years, starts making posts on topics that are part of reputation board. The case is clear, the user who posted there already had full knowledge about that thread.


I think there's chance that the account might be an alt account of someone else who might not have guts to post in that thread from his/her original account. That could be the case I believe because such accounts when wake up after long time start positing in threads like that shows that they already knew about the thread and that's why he/she posted on that thread instead of any other thread.

[JollyGood]

I am inclined to go along with your views about this EtihadBitcoin being an alt-account (or more likely being part of a farmed account) but I doubt it has been sold because the email address was not changed, his account showed "This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity."

Keeping aside the account is sold possibility, if this is a farmed account the puppeteer is simply wasting his time using it because of the negative tag attached therefore I would have asked why would he use it even for nefarious purposes but the suggestions in this thread cover several scenarios. In my opinion, those behaviours bring attention to the account and render it even more useless.

You may not be wrong, what's your assumption about that member? I believe such moves are quite strange because a user who hasn't been active on the forum for many years, starts making posts on topics that are part of reputation board. The case is clear, the user who posted there already had full knowledge about that thread.


I think there's chance that the account might be an alt account of someone else who might not have guts to post in that thread from his/her original account. That could be the case I believe because such accounts when wake up after long time start positing in threads like that shows that they already knew about the thread and that's why he/she posted on that thread instead of any other thread.

[holydarkness]

As for why... hmm... sold accounts? Or perhaps like SheldonCobb above, having a bitter experience with one or two projects and decided to spare no mercy on the entire crypto platform.

If the account has been traded, it will probably eventually become apparent over the days when the account is actually active but it does not seem it has been sold. The pattern of posting is somewhat counterproductive and that was what stood out for me when he returned to the forum to make an unnecessary post nearly 7 years after his last post.[...]

Though I don't think I am going to have any interest on this user, because so far he doesn't seem to do any harm or suspicious to the community, if we may amuse a possibility of a traded account, given if we may pull an assumption from this deleted post [quoted below] and his last post before went inactive, it'll be safe to assume the owner-or-previous-owner has interest in account sales,

Send me pm about the hero and legendary.
Include the price.

You sold numerous accounts to me and all the accounts that can be traced back to you.

They all have negative trust and you contributed too it dickhead scum.
suffer now

Do you happen to have a complete history of his posts after he woke up? I might remember things wrongly, given it's been a while since I last pay attention on how activity and post count works, especially with the ones who deleted their post, but wouldn't these number mean he made five posts before the activity-count update schedule can catch up with his post-count?



I can't find them on Ninjastic, most likely because it just had its downtime a short while ago, but I strangely also can't find them on LoyceV's archiever, which made me question if I get rusty and remember those system wrongly.

The reason I ask is because I think there is actually a slight difference in writing style, very minor, he previously always put punctuation marks on every sentence, and this last one wasn't,



might be something, might be nothing, which is why I'll really appreciate another sample of his recent writing preference, to see if we can determine whether that's a simple change of habit over years, a failed attempt to mimic older [previous owner's] writing style, or something else.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't know what bounties is. Is it that what newbies doing? is it illegal or do they cheat with multiply accounts?

That last question sure does make it sound like you know exactly what bounties are, lol.  Assuming you really don't know, they're kind of like signature campaigns where members get paid to promote something--except bounty managers are/were notorious for accepting anyone who could use a keyboard.  And yes, bounties got abused harder than anything I've seen abused on this forum thus far.  There were alt accounts enrolled in the same bounty, fake social media accounts being employed, and other stuff I can't even think of right now. 

Plus bounty hunters often didn't get paid, because they'd do all the advertising "work" up front, hoping to get paid in whatever shit token was being pumped and dumped, and a lot of times the owner of the coin/business/whatever would screw everyone over in the end. 

I thought most of that came to a screeching halt in late 2017/early 2018 when the ICO bubble popped, but I haven't kept tabs on what's been going on, so who knows.  But if you're wondering why there's a baseline level of paranoia among some of the older members of bitcointalk, what I just described is one of many reasons for it.

[DaveF]

You see things like this and then wonder why theymos does have accounts that have not been active for X years auto lock and make the owner go though some hoops to get it back.

Probably not really worth it but it's a thought.

Unless EtihadBitcoin does something else that seems off it's not an issue IMO.

Could have been here for a while with no posts then just wandered off and then saw something that for whatever reason made them want to put in a comment that was unnecessary.

I would think that if the account was sold the 1st post back would be 'more relevant' but who knows.

-Dave

[JollyGood]

Maybe having to go through a reactivation process if a member has been inactive for a 12/24/36 month period is something theymos could consider but there are a large number of requests for modifications already therefore it will probably be ignored. Even if he wanted to implement something like that he would have to deal with the logistics surrounding creating the patch too and I cannot see him facilitating it.

You see things like this and then wonder why theymos does have accounts that have not been active for X years auto lock and make the owner go though some hoops to get it back.

Probably not really worth it but it's a thought.

Unless EtihadBitcoin does something else that seems off it's not an issue IMO.

Could have been here for a while with no posts then just wandered off and then saw something that for whatever reason made them want to put in a comment that was unnecessary.

I would think that if the account was sold the 1st post back would be 'more relevant' but who knows.

-Dave

[Learn Bitcoin]

I don't understand what could be the reason for selling or buying such accounts. What people will do with such accounts that are already negatively tagged and still newbie rank? If someone wants to shill their project, a fresh newly created account is better than this tagged account which did not earn a single merit.

I don't want to believe that the account is sold. Even if they sold it, the new owner does not know much about the forum. Or it is very much possible that the main owner of this account still using it but decided to come back to the forum.

[BabyBandit]

I don't know what bounties is. Is it that what newbies doing? is it illegal or do they cheat with multiply accounts?

That last question sure does make it sound like you know exactly what bounties are, lol.  Assuming you really don't know, they're kind of like signature campaigns where members get paid to promote something--except bounty managers are/were notorious for accepting anyone who could use a keyboard.  And yes, bounties got abused harder than anything I've seen abused on this forum thus far.  There were alt accounts enrolled in the same bounty, fake social media accounts being employed, and other stuff I can't even think of right now.  

Plus bounty hunters often didn't get paid, because they'd do all the advertising "work" up front, hoping to get paid in whatever shit token was being pumped and dumped, and a lot of times the owner of the coin/business/whatever would screw everyone over in the end.  

I thought most of that came to a screeching halt in late 2017/early 2018 when the ICO bubble popped, but I haven't kept tabs on what's been going on, so who knows.  But if you're wondering why there's a baseline level of paranoia among some of the older members of bitcointalk, what I just described is one of many reasons for it.

I have no idea what it is I have heard of it all over the place but never look into it I think because I already got money and a good portfolio of crypto. And you can think and believe what you want mate it really doses not concern me at all, but I appreciate that you explained it for me. But I still not understand why people choose to do all this that must take hours same with a sign campaign (the cheaters with many accounts like this PytogaZ)
Why don't fucking get a job or trying to get one or educate and in the end you will earn so much more... For the logic isn't there sorry but these people are a pea brain & it makes zero sense.
Even if you are without a job or from a poor country, you can always do something if you work hard enough and want it hard enough! Always. And I know that because I started from zero and am far away from the bottom now (In the real life) and I know that many people here from a a first world country and them are without job and spending hours here each day instead of go out and find a job I find also that remarkable.
And it cant make anyone happy to just sit inside all day and be on a forum and doing same thing over and over again, it would at least play with my mind. I need to train, go out and get fresh air, dig in and work hard to feel alive.

And I let my actions speak for what and who I am and not some fake/false feedback that people leaving me.

That's what I know and what I think.
Have a great week man and good luck with the hunting.
All respect

/ BabyB.

[Majestic-milf]

I don't understand what could be the reason for selling or buying such accounts. What people will do with such accounts that are already negatively tagged and still newbie rank? If someone wants to shill their project, a fresh newly created account is better than this tagged account which did not earn a single merit.

Beats me. The appeal to purchase or take over an already tagged account seems like someone who is bent on investing in a dead project! Or maybe he feels that since the account is tagged, there's no reason to play by the forum's rules or even play nice at all. Either that or just like you suggested, the person could be ignorant about how this place works.
For me, and just as the others have supplied, it's best to just not put too much of your time or attention on the account as long as they've not defaulted any further rules ( I mean, it's because they eff'd up that was why they got the neg tag in the first place,eh?🤔).

[EtihadBitcoin]

Normally I don't care about things like this, but I want to reply on this one and I will try to do it will all respect to OP and this will be a bit off-topic so sorry about that.

What to make of members such as "EtihadBitcoin"

Maybe just leave him/her alone and mind your own business and if he/she break any rules take action? I don't understand why you are so obsessed with giving every newbie/wake up member feedback on the forum? maybe it was someone that just decided to come back here again? I don't understand do you need to be active on this forum all day everyday every week and month year after year for not being tagged? That's strange.
You know it's a life outside this forum to mate? Some people don't have time to be here 24/7 A
nd also.. it's a newbie, how do you even find it worth spending time on? What you think he/she gonna do or can do? I am seriously asking and wonder. And instead of creating this topic why not just send him/her a PM and just ask?

Though we cannot understand the mindset of every member that behaves in strange ways

You don't have to, everyone is different and that's the beauty of life. What is strange for you may be normal for someone else.

I would not create a thread each time a member wakes up after years of sleeping to make a dubious post but the question remains about why they do it when it looks like a time wasting exercise on their part.

That''s a good thing.

they are simply wasting their time

Do you speak about wasting time? Look how your spending your own time first that's the only important thing for you.


And I know I am far away from perfect myself and I have not behave the best here at the start, but I had a break and I learned and improved and then came back and now I am trying to be a better person for every day that goes on.


And just my worthless shitty opinion is to relax a little bit and leave people alone until they break any rules or if they are super suspicious and then and only then you can jump in with your thing and post your feedback's.
Because I think you want to do this for good reasons but it may happen that you are going way to far and new members will stop to show up, don't we all want the forum and community to grow biger?
Why is it so hard to work together instead of against each other?

It's entirely possible that someone bought the account as well and is clueless about the trust system or forum rules.

My guess is my above thought is not the case, but possible.

Brother I think you right, on the last row. I don't think anyone would buy a newbie account? 
Have a great one, respect to you!


/ BabyB.

look at yourself before judging others actions

everyone on this are just spammers

after exposing yogg question my integrity is laughable

tell it to those who were scammed out of their money who had listened to my warnings months before it happened

good work jollygood you spamming for campaign troglodyte

yeah he is a hermit from nigeria who imagines their shit posting means anything to anyone