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May 25, 2024, 11:37:11 AM
Last edit: May 25, 2024, 12:30:08 PM by lovesmayfamilis
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 #1

I looked at active users who wrote posts over the past 24 hours.
https://loyce.club/active/

I was attracted to an account Riginac111 that had about twenty posts written per day.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3515662;sa=showPosts;start=0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3515662;sa=showPosts;start=20
https://archive.fo/T84jl
https://archive.ph/CyiVb

And everything would be fine if it weren’t for the speed of creating posts, which makes a difference of two to three minutes. It is quite obvious that during this time it is simply impossible to understand either the meaning of the topic or what the person would like to answer.

I would like to ask if we can curb the ardor of someone writing at such a rate by leaving a tag as someone who creates posts only to participate in his company signature?

Does the manager who runs the company approve of this behavior?    @CryptopreneurBrainboss @irfan_pak10


Another one account Rasa nanas

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1130676;sa=showPosts

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May 25, 2024, 12:08:07 PM
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Yes, the manager must check the account's habits. even in the last week he finished 60 posts in just 4 days.
we can clearly see in the campaign rules from the manager that Burst posting is not allowed. but maybe the manager has his calculations.
Maybe the manager can limit the maximum number of posts that will be counted in 1 day. it might help reduce burst Posting.

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May 25, 2024, 12:54:53 PM
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Maybe the manager can limit the maximum number of posts that will be counted in 1 day. it might help reduce burst Posting.
That's not the solution, burst posting have two definitions.

One is creating a lot post in one day, which is what you suggest to limit the maximum post per day.

The another one is creating a lot post in short time, even the manager limit 5 posts per day, they can create 5 posts within 2-3 minutes.

Sometime I post quite faster like 10-15 minutes from my previous post, but it's due to the topic is interesting to discuss and I have something to add.

But, the two posters mentioned by @OP seems like it's their habit, they're consistent posting within few minutes.

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May 25, 2024, 01:28:00 PM
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There's quite a lot of users over the years that I have found that engage in this type of posting. I personally will not pay these users if I am managing the campaign they are in due to burstposting. Not sure how many managers restrict users from pay for burstposting. From my experience, most of them don't know they are doing anything wrong. They got into a campaign and are trying to do the work as fast as possible to guarantee they get paid.

What I would do is message their manager and have them send a message to the user giving a warning. Some won't respond to a random user warning them.

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May 25, 2024, 02:30:21 PM
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 #5

This is interesting to me about the @Rasa pineapple account, I see there is a connection with other Alt accounts, it's just that some of them are in the campaign and not in the campaign.

This indicates that this kind of behavior / chaotic posts are caused by too many accounts, so they post haphazardly to meet the quota, I often see this kind of behavior, generally they have more than one account.

The proof is what happened on the @Rasa nanas account.

1. Rasa nanas
2. b3j0
3. Ngemmeng
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5. kendedese
6. gagak

Proof:

Post by: Rasa nanas
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Bitcointalk username: Rasa nanas
Telegram username: @b3j0o
[ Archive ]

Post by: b3j0
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Bitcointalk username: b3j0
Telegram username: @b3j0o
[ Archive ]

Bitcointalk username: Ngemmeng
Your telegram username: @b3j0o
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1) Your Bitcointalk username : bengsabeng
2) Telegram username : @b3j0o
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Bitcointalk username: kendedese
Your telegram username: @b3j0o
[ Archive ]

Bitcoin username: gagak
Telegram Username: @b3j0o
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The nature of writing without reading, which happened to @Riginac111, may not be much different from @Rasa pineapple two accounts or not, it's just that I haven't found any evidence.

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May 25, 2024, 02:32:33 PM
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Neutral in my timeliness called my attention to this board, I don't know that making up to ten posts a day or twenty posts is against the rules and regulations of the community, I have heard someone outlining that making post within few minutes is not good, this is something I don't know but now I have known it, I'm a faster typewriter and I don't check my posting timing, and again I love discussing politics even since I notice theirs a political section where we can discuss of countries politics. I want everyone to bear with me I don't know that making much post will result as a spam, I will withdraw from now henceforth i will minimize my posting to be maximum of 5 posts every day so that I will not bridge the law of the forum.

I know correction is the simplest way someone can learn, and lovemyfamilies have show me correction and it has be amend, when I was a newbie it's lovemayfamiles that once directed me, and I applaud her for the good works she performed, [ I'm addressing op as her because I came across post someone said addressed op as female] thank you for your correction and other reputable members that work tirelessly to make sure the for is in good conduct.

Anyone who doesn't accept it mistakes will not grow, i have accepted that its a mistake and I stand to correct it, please nobody should contact my manager to reshuffle me for my mistake, as I said before that I will minimize my posting quota I stand to do so, I know may people will adding fuel so that flame 🔥 will continue to rise up, also know that nobody is above mistakes.

Thanks everyone and bear with me.
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May 25, 2024, 02:59:43 PM
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Because of your speed, your posts lose their meaning. Everyone can check the posts and express their opinion. Is it worth it to be in such a hurry and to give out nonsense?

Also, I completely agree with YOSHIE; such a rush is useful for alt accounts to meet their signature quota.

But you, Riginac111, are disingenuous in that you can simply write quickly. You should admit that you write posts in advance and then insert them. I'm not sure that in a minute you can move around the forum so quickly, read, and respond. Your lies will only make the situation worse.

Don't forget that this is a forum, not a money-making machine. I ask your manager to review your posts. @CryptopreneurBrainboss Smiley

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May 25, 2024, 03:07:40 PM
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Why am I not surprised? This campaign is basically paying you to spam the forum, as it would almost be impossible to write a maximum of 60 posts per week while maintaining decent post quality. The majority of his posts are created within 3-minute intervals. How in the world can you write so fast on so many different topics simultaneously? That's the pure definition of spam and post bursting, something that campaigns also prohibit, and it blows me away that you're asking this question, wondering why you got a neutral tag and why it's not reasonable to create so many posts in so little time.

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Because of your speed, your posts lose their meaning. Everyone can check the posts and express their opinion. Is it worth it to be in such a hurry and to give out nonsense?

Also, I completely agree with YOSHIE; such a rush is useful for alt accounts to meet their signature quota.

But you, Riginac111, are disingenuous in that you can simply write quickly. You should admit that you write posts in advance and then insert them. I'm not sure that in a minute you can move around the forum so quickly, read, and respond. Your lies will only make the situation worse.

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I am able to write quite fast and constructively but it does not mean that I am a burst poster although it seems to me that yahoo62278 will disagree, and we once argued about it.

When you see that someone writes a lot of posts in a day and/or with few intervals between posts I think you have to look first of all at the quality, and then at other things like if he usually writes one of the first replies in the thread, as there you have to think less. Other times I also respond quickly but because I read the thread shortly before from my mobile when I was logged off the forum while having a coffee, then it doesn't take me so long to respond.

But going to this case I see that he has written a lot of answers in the P&S board and with overquotes, which already gives the impression that he does not bring much quality. Then looking more closely I see garbage like this:

the price of Bitcoin can increase can also decrease it so I know very well that the price of Bitcoin is unpredictable so many people think that at the price drop in the market and it's going to continue to drop meanwhile is increasing because of more investors are coming in and they don't know that what makes the Bitcoin have more traffic for people who adopt bitcoin like so many companies now have adopted bitcoin so that is one of the things that makes the price of Bitcoin to continue Pushing Up

The second one es even worse, btw. He wrote 12 posts between 08:05:15 PM and 08:24:04 PM yesterday. Brainboss, you should definitely fire this one.


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I am able to write quite fast and constructively but it does not mean that I am a burst poster although it seems to me that yahoo62278 will disagree, and we once argued about it.



I don't necessarily disagree with you and every case is on a case by case basis, but IMO 1 of every 100 posters who are posting fast are posting quality. Most that are burstposting are unaware and spamming to get paid.

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People Hold bitcoin because of future reference because I know that once some people Hold bitcoin is because they know quite well that Bitcoin come rise at any point in time so if bitcoin can write there is every possibility for the person to make a profit for holding the Bitcoin for long time so that is why I always accumulate my Bitcoin

You need to continue holding bitcoin because if you fail to hold bitcoin that is it possibility that you may not continue to make a kind of profit you do make when you hold so the reason why people hold their bitcoin is because they really want to make a profit and also accumulate from different participative

To invest in Bitcoin does not have particular time so I know very well that sometimes is who think that it will invest in Bitcoin to have time those people these people that lose for investment in Bitcoin but if you invest in Bitcoin without thinking that this is the best time to invest in Bitcoin it is the time that you benefit or profit for bitcoin investment

Three posts in 2 minutes and 24 seconds, two on page 8 of the topic and one on page 7
If somebody is going to tell me he is not only a fast typer but also a fast reader and he read all 400+ posts in those topics before posting....bs!
If somebody is going to tell me that these don't belong in the trash, again...bs!
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I  do understand if it happens once, I made a 20 lines post with 4-second delay because I forgot to press posts and after making my second one I realized the previous was not published, so there you have it two 500+ words posts in 5 seconds but that can happen once, maybe two times, not every single day!

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Neutral in my timeliness called my attention to this board, I don't know that making up to ten posts a day or twenty posts is against the rules and regulations of the community, I have heard someone outlining that making post within few minutes is not good, this is something I don't know but now I have known.
Wait a minute, you didn't know what post bursting is and that it's not allowed in the campaign you applied for?
Also, what do you have to say about the alt accounts that are said to be connected to you?

I do hope you change for the better, though. There's always room for improvement.

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Does the manager who runs the company approve of this behavior?

No I don't and I constantly remind my participate of not spamming the forum, it isn't about how many post you make daily or weekly but how quality they are to the forum. The user in question was already under my watchlist as I have marked him severally on the spreadsheet and he was already among users that'll be removed from the next clean up of the campaign as I always do. But with immediate effect he has been removed from the campaign and will be sent a notification after this post.

Appologie again I know we aren't there yet a 100% but the campaign is improving. There will be some bad eggs and when they're been caught they won't go unpunished as I have punished others in the past. Surprised I didn't get a notification even though my name was mentioned severally on this thread, keep up the good work lovesmayfamilis.

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Does the manager who runs the company approve of this behavior?

No I don't and I constantly remind my participate of not spamming the forum, it isn't about how many post you make daily or weekly but how quality they are to the forum. The user in question was already under my watchlist as I have marked him severally on the spreadsheet and he was already among users that'll be removed from the next clean up of the campaign as I always do. But with immediate effect he has been removed from the campaign and will be sent a notification after this post.

Appologie again I know we aren't there yet a 100% but the campaign is improving. There will be some bad eggs and when they're been caught they won't go unpunished as I have punished others in the past. Surprised I didn't get a notification even though my name was mentioned severally on this thread, keep up the good work lovesmayfamilis.

I see this as a wise move on your part as a campaign manager.  If you want my two cents, it would be smart to catch this stuff early before it blows up publicly and makes the whole campaign look bad.  Maybe keep tabs on the folks who seem to hit the post limit every week - that could give you a sense of who to watch out for.

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The guy has already PMed me asking me to remove the neutral feedback. I am open to remove it in the future if there is a pattern and quality change but not in less than 24 hours.

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Has all the hallmarks of an alt account, including their first post on the forum stating that they are "new"... Who does this?? Yeah, obviously you're new. Its your first post. The only reason people do things like that is in a lame attempt to get merits.

Stuff like this, which is most of this user's posts, is just awful:

To be rich is something that comes from understanding and the thinking if you don't have the capacity to think on what to make you to survive in life I don't think that you find yourself in the means of richness because I know very well not people who does not strategize well does not make a step of becoming rich so it is only people who are desperate and the whole knows how to strategies and the also been stinging are the people that make it in life.

It doesn't convey any sort of intelligible information, doesn't add anything to the discussion; its just gibberish. Sad that these kinds of accounts can get accepted to campaigns, regardless of how little they pay. Just blatant spam for the sake of advertising.

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I only reported a few, but the moderators agreed. I was waiting for the results.



Furthermore, I encourage those who rush to create their posts without fully understanding the content to slow down and carefully review the information. Some people read the forum, and it’s very unpleasant when we see that we are taken for idiots who are ready to read nonsense.

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~snip~
It doesn't convey any sort of intelligible information, doesn't add anything to the discussion; its just gibberish. Sad that these kinds of accounts can get accepted to campaigns, regardless of how little they pay. Just blatant spam for the sake of advertising.


When you have xx spots in the campaign that you need to fill, and when the campaign pays extremely little, then you will get members like this who are guided by the philosophy of working exactly as little as they are paid. Quantity and not quality has never brought good results, but obviously some people need a lot of time to understand that.

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It doesn't convey any sort of intelligible information, doesn't add anything to the discussion; its just gibberish. Sad that these kinds of accounts can get accepted to campaigns, regardless of how little they pay. Just blatant spam for the sake of advertising.


When you have xx spots in the campaign that you need to fill, and when the campaign pays extremely little, then you will get members like this who are guided by the philosophy of working exactly as little as they are paid. Quantity and not quality has never brought good results, but obviously some people need a lot of time to understand that.

This is not just about the amount that's been paid, bitvest as various tiers and through which participants will grow to higher ranks in order to earn more through making quality post and if there's a slot upward.

I don't actually see this as being the main reason this occur but from the fact that this user may possibly have alts which are also on campaigns and not just trying to have xx about of post to get a better pay because this user can actually choose to make up to 50 post weekly if he/she has no alt weekly with a more quality post than this.

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