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May 28, 2024, 08:07:18 PM
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Hey punters, have you heard of the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League? Maybe you have or not. If you haven't, Autonomous car racing is a rapidly advancing field that combines cutting-edge technologies such as artificial intelligence (AI), fast mobility stacks, innovative sensor technologies and edge computing to create high-performance vehicles that can perceive their surroundings, make decisions, and race competitively without human intervention. -https://a2rl.io/

When we talk about racing, we talk about the drivers, compare their performances, and all other odds but this is kind of different. It is all about betting on superior tech. Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?

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May 28, 2024, 08:18:09 PM
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I read about this some months ago but I do not know the name they call it. The world has really advanced. I can use this to bet but one thing that I noticed about me is that if it is not casino games, I prefer football the most. The second one that I use to bet is table tennis but it is not common like football. I prefer casinos than any other thing use for gambling or betting because I found the games helping me relaxing. But I will like to go for autonomous car racing.and see how it is. Is there any betting site offering it?

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May 28, 2024, 08:34:16 PM
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When they say AI, does it mean it's not controlled remotely by the owner of the car or is it just AI deciding how to beat the rest of these tiny cars?

Looks fun to be on the side of the tracks compared to the F1-like car race, you don't put yourself in danger. This isn't new when you think of those cars controlled remotely but I'm not sure if there is a betting site that lists this kind of competition. Must be for the enthusiasts.

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May 28, 2024, 08:36:50 PM
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Wow I really haven't come across a gambling activity set up that is based on an autonomous car racing, but it will be very nice . Some gamblers like to try out new things and as long as casinos make it nice and interesting, gamblers will definitely like to try it out. You will even figure out that over time gamblers will begin to like the game as long as it's interesting and they are able to analyze it.
If you observe different types of gamblers have their likings in different gambling activities. Some of them like games that are more of analysis than luck and sometimes it's because they can easily have an edge of experience over gamblers newer to that particular gambling activity.
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May 28, 2024, 08:46:38 PM
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When they say AI, does it mean it's not controlled remotely by the owner of the car or is it just AI deciding how to beat the rest of these tiny cars?


Same thought that came to my mind when I went to the site the Op provided -if it’s will be driven like the F1 cars or something that would be controlled entirely by an AI.

The fact that it’s AI based and it will also be working on algorithms that will be constantly improving (according to the site) might make it a bit difficult for gamblers to make predictions on who is going to win. For entertainment purposes it might be great but when it come to gambling, we all know that punters prefer games that they can make good predictions on - not not that they would have to depend entirely on their luck.

Well since it’s the first of its kind, we’ll have to wait and see how it turns out, although I don’t have my hopes high cause I’m not a fan of car racing so I might end up not betting on it.

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May 28, 2024, 08:50:41 PM
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I'm still wondering how the algorithm works for this. Could it mean that every individual car have some sorts of human controlling the artificial intelligence behind the car. For instance, the cars will be controlled by high skilled developers who work behind the machine performance of the autonomous car or is it just going to be the artificial intelligence following the preset performance of each car based on the information it has about the engine capacity and so on. If it is latter, then it will mean that, a latest 2024 Ferrari car will always out speed a 2023 or 2022 Ferrari car by default regardless of the skills of the driver. Whereas in reality, a 2023 Ferrari can may likely win over a 2024 Ferrari car if for instance the driver skill in the 2023 car is higher than the other.

Why I'm just thinking this is, the level of precision of this game may be more than that of the drivers racing game which is more unlikely to predict since the drivers are still a factor to consider and count on. And yes, for a gambler, the more unpredictable the game becomes, the better it is.

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May 28, 2024, 08:58:42 PM
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When they say AI, does it mean it's not controlled remotely by the owner of the car or is it just AI deciding how to beat the rest of these tiny cars?
Same thought that came to my mind when I went to the site the Op provided -if it’s will be driven like the F1 cars or something that would be controlled entirely by an AI.

It's not the first, we had one last year:
https://www.indyautonomouschallenge.com/

They are completely autonomous except for some safety shut down protocols, here is an article about the race:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/first-autonomous-car-race-abu-dhabi-a2rl-motorsports/

Not as entertaining as one might expect and with a few really bad glitches, probably right now in a human vs ai race the ai won't be able to overcome any driver, they calculate too much on predictable courses while humans don't act that logically, it would be quite funny to see them stuck and driving ina line because they don't see it possible passing the car in front despite slo speeds.

As for gambling, there will be little entertainment in this, since we will know all the data on the cars except for a glitch the outcome will be logical.


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May 28, 2024, 09:02:20 PM
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How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?
This is remarkable and nothing short of amazing  but am trying not to capture this artificial intelligence controlled car racing with the virtual car racing on casino's and sports bet sites because having no human behind the steering just makes it that way. And just as someone in the comments said, leaving real live car racing competition to the computer what's the assurance that prominent the interest won't interfere in the process. We know technology is advancing and leading to a development of how things work in different sectors but let not forget that it also comes with its own flaws.

Another aspect of this is that it's gonna take a feeling of affection that could be found between the human driver and the fans and a lot of value for the race likely to reduce among fans seeing that it's machine drivers and not human.
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Hey punters, have you heard of the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League? Maybe you have or not. If you haven't, Autonomous car racing is a rapidly advancing field that combines cutting-edge technologies such as artificial intelligence (AI), fast mobility stacks, innovative sensor technologies and edge computing to create high-performance vehicles that can perceive their surroundings, make decisions, and race competitively without human intervention. -https://a2rl.io/

When we talk about racing, we talk about the drivers, compare their performances, and all other odds but this is kind of different. It is all about betting on superior tech. Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?
In the world of gambling today, I think the race car category is a bit low when we look at the numbers of bettor that place bets on games there, I myself am not too much of a fan but I do like myself some good entertainment but I doubt it will be all that interesting as it's still at the early stages. What really marvel me now is how developed the world has become, I mean we now have games that are completely AI censored, that's so cool and what's next I could remember a few decades back if you would tell someone that all these development would be available he or she might have argued with you but now just look at how technology has rapidly made it's stand in the world.

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May 28, 2024, 09:13:17 PM
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Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?
as much as I find it interesting I don't think I'll be betting on it, I'd be more interested in the advancements they made on this type of tech because of this competition(I bet elon musk is taking notes for his tesla car auto pilot feature). also, I feel like you are not actually placing wagers where the competitors are machines, you are still placing wagers on the human who programmed the AI.

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May 28, 2024, 09:16:32 PM
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if there was some sort of randomness to it maybe? I mean there's been a lot of competitions that involved robotics and automation, e.g. finding the shortest path race, robotic cars fighting and they're all pretty interesting to watch. I'd say I can bet on those types of matches, so I don't think car racing would be any different.

But again, as long as there's something that would make the race something more exciting since in the first place, it being machines can make the match boring, yes, but the race itself can be adjusted to accommodate limits that wasn't possible before since the racers were humans. With machines being the racers, limits be damned no?

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May 28, 2024, 09:58:02 PM
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Hey punters, have you heard of the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League? Maybe you have or not. If you haven't, Autonomous car racing is a rapidly advancing field that combines cutting-edge technologies such as artificial intelligence (AI), fast mobility stacks, innovative sensor technologies and edge computing to create high-performance vehicles that can perceive their surroundings, make decisions, and race competitively without human intervention. -https://a2rl.io/

When we talk about racing, we talk about the drivers, compare their performances, and all other odds but this is kind of different. It is all about betting on superior tech. Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?
It will take a while before this become established in casinos and gamblers start developing some level of confidence in it. Right now there is little data that gamblers can use in deciding which company is better and can give them results but with time it will become easier. What I also think will happen here is that any company with superior tech will dominate the business as long as it takes for another company to come up with something better. This means there might really be less competition in the sports because it is usually easier to identify a better technology.

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May 28, 2024, 10:35:18 PM
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also, I feel like you are not actually placing wagers where the competitors are machines, you are still placing wagers on the human who programmed the AI.
From the article that stompix posted, the fun in actual F1 racing for some people who are fans of it are the individuals who are behind the steering wheel; it provides some idea on who to bet on, but with this autonomous car racing, outcomes from bets will be more random and harder than usual to predict, and that will scare some gamblers away. It will be more fun to know the identity of the developers, and it will give an angle to wager on their programming skills.


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When we talk about racing, we talk about the drivers, compare their performances, and all other odds but this is kind of different. It is all about betting on superior tech. Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?
I think it's a gambling category like any other. And it seems really interesting. Even though we are betting on AI and superior technologies, there is still a human developer behind it. So the quality and efficiency of each vehicle will depend on the skills of the human developing those vehicles. It's like an action movie I forgot right now the name where robots were put to battle against themselves, but the robots were controlled by human beings.

So despite them being robots, the unique characteristics of each one (which were given by the humans) made total difference on the outcomes of each match. In my opinion it's just a matter of time until this category of gambling gets more recognization and becomes a hype in the sports betting scene. I'm sure many gamblers will enjoy playing on this concept, with serious chances of even replacing the current popularity traditional sports like soccer have.

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May 28, 2024, 10:48:17 PM
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Hey punters, have you heard of the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League? Maybe you have or not. If you haven't, Autonomous car racing is a rapidly advancing field that combines cutting-edge technologies such as artificial intelligence (AI), fast mobility stacks, innovative sensor technologies and edge computing to create high-performance vehicles that can perceive their surroundings, make decisions, and race competitively without human intervention. -https://a2rl.io/

When we talk about racing, we talk about the drivers, compare their performances, and all other odds but this is kind of different. It is all about betting on superior tech. Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?

Removing the driver entirely makes it quite an unattractive sport in my opinion. It's more like getting an insight of the companies' technological position and maybe that can influence consumer decisions. But since you brought this up in the gambling discussion section, I wouldn't bet on any of those races. There is just no way to confirm whether everything has been true and fair. There could be so much manipulation.

And if it is perfect artificial intelligence that avoids all car accidents, than the car with the best tech should always win unless the tech fails. It is similar to betting on these simulated sport matches that some websites offer. I have never placed a bet on that as it is all about trusting the provider that no manipulation is going on, but there is no way to verify that either.

When they do these races in Abu Dhabi, are there fans celebrating that? It's kind of funny to think about people cheering for a car that has no driver.

Next stop: robotic dog races! Cheesy Or what about pig races, automated robotic pig races? It's ridiculous to scream or cheering at something that has no soul.

And actually, autonomous means that there is nobody with a remote control driving the car. That could still be fun, but truly autonomous vehicles, I can't see how that would be an enjoyable event besides the idea that it might be interesting to see it once and to understand how well the tech is doing these days.

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as much as I find it interesting I don't think I'll be betting on it, I'd be more interested in the advancements they made on this type of tech because of this competition(I bet elon musk is taking notes for his tesla car auto pilot feature). also, I feel like you are not actually placing wagers where the competitors are machines, you are still placing wagers on the human who programmed the AI.
Why won't you bet with it? Is it because humans are not involved and you think it is not going to be interesting and entertaining? We do not necessarily have to bet on human competitions. People have been betting on animals in sport betting since many years ago it is even in many decades ago. We are in the time of AI and we should expect AI to be used in a lot of places. I can use it to bet and see how it would be.

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May 28, 2024, 11:21:01 PM
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Hey punters, have you heard of the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League? Maybe you have or not. If you haven't, Autonomous car racing is a rapidly advancing field that combines cutting-edge technologies such as artificial intelligence (AI), fast mobility stacks, innovative sensor technologies and edge computing to create high-performance vehicles that can perceive their surroundings, make decisions, and race competitively without human intervention. -https://a2rl.io/

Yeap, bu I don't know if I like this very much.

I confess that despite recognizing that one of the biggest problems with conventional racing is the human risk involved in consequences and loss of human life, I don't know if a fully autonomous car will be "interesting".

I still think that "taking" a human driver out of control of a car will make racing very monotonous, predictable and "boring".
I would then bet on semi-autonomous driving, or perhaps a human pilot controlling the vehicle via remote control from the safety of the cockpit.

But, I love everything about racing, and I'm looking forward to the new events. I don't know if I'm going to bet on it yet, first I want to find out how it works, who the teams are and what their potential is.

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May 28, 2024, 11:27:59 PM
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also, I feel like you are not actually placing wagers where the competitors are machines, you are still placing wagers on the human who programmed the AI.
From the article that stompix posted, the fun in actual F1 racing for some people who are fans of it are the individuals who are behind the steering wheel; it provides some idea on who to bet on, but with this autonomous car racing, outcomes from bets will be more random and harder than usual to predict, and that will scare some gamblers away. It will be more fun to know the identity of the developers, and it will give an angle to wager on their programming skills.
I agree with this, knowing who the developer behind the AI is would definitely give gamblers an idea of how the tech will perform during the competition, and keeping the developer's identities anonymous would remove those advantages.

I can't see how that would be an enjoyable event besides the idea that it might be interesting to see it once and to understand how well the tech is doing these days.
I feel like most of the people who'd enjoy this are the ones who are very interested and fascinated by AI tech and those who understand the complexity of the program that is made for the competition.

Why won't you bet with it? Is it because humans are not involved and you think it is not going to be interesting and entertaining?
no, it's not that. it's just that I rarely bet on sports betting and when I do bet I usually just bet on sports that I like.

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May 28, 2024, 11:36:31 PM
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Os this a racing league that is ongoing or will it be something in the future?

I read here that it went on Trial in April but had to be stoped as all cars failed to finish:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/27/24142989/a2rl-autonomous-race-cars-f1-abu-dhabi

Keep in mind that no car company claims to have full autonomy in self driving. Certain companies that offer self driving rides only do it in certain well mapped parts of a few urban environments. No high ways and no fastlsnes. Still impressive but nowhere near racing yet. Maybe it'll take a few more years of chip efficiency and data training to be able to see this. But probably not full races this year.

Hopefully I'm wrong though because this is interesting.

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Well. I admit this is not something I would have expected to see. To me sports are more about the discipline and the physical and metal enhancing people can go through in order to out perform their foe. Would it be the same with those autonomous cars? I think not, though,  I am pretty sure there will be people willing to gamble on it (there are already leagues of fighting bots and people place bets on those, after all).
By the way, I am not sure whether this could he characterized as a e-sport or not, because, even though these races would not nearly close to players of games like League of Legends and Dota2, because of the involvement of hardware.

Either way, I would not bet on it initially, perhaps in the future when the leagues get more recognition and prestige, so it would be less likely to coerce teams onto fixing the match.

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