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June 01, 2024, 07:23:49 AM
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Geed is far way more dangerous than addiction. Then imagine greed plus addiction. Any gambler who possess these two detrimental characters will never be successful in gambling. The consequences of greed is that it make us want to stake high amount and we may end up putting all our bankroll at ones for a big cash out which at the end may be lucky to win or may end up losing all out money in one bet. The greed can limit us from making inclined decisions. IN a scenario where we are already making wins in gambling of which it is satisfying to quit at that moment but we choose to continue, of course that is greed and there are higher chances of us losing both our profits and capital in the bet again.

Sometimes we possesses these characteristics because we have a target or pending bills to pay. My advice is that relying on gambling to settle debts, start business and do other important things in life is not proper. Gambling wins or profits is to support us financially but shouldn't be a major source of income in this life.

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June 01, 2024, 07:33:38 AM
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And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.
One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.

 
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June 01, 2024, 09:26:37 AM
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I do not agree with this, addiction could make you fall into a pit, and being too greedy could turn into addiction as well, but greed itself is not dangerous at default because it can be stopped. You could be greedy once, and learn your mistake and never be that greedy again, in that case greed isn't bad because it teaches you how to do better.

I personally believe that we are going to end up with something much better one way or another, and should definitely consider how we can get better from it. Addiction on the other hand is not something that would be all that great, we should consider how we could get better and how we could move forward with it, it shouldn't be really all that complicated because addiction is much worse.
Greediness will not dangerous if someone can manage his emotion, especially when he wins some gambling games and thinks to stops playing gambling immediately before everything is change. But most people falls to their greediness and not thinks about stops from playing gambling instead keeps playing gambling because they wants to chase the next bigger wins. That makes them greedy because they trying to play for more to gets more wins but the reality is many of them lose their money along with their wins before.

Yes, we will gets much better if we can control ourselves and when we wins and can stops from playing gambling immediately, we can withdraw the money and enjoy the wins moment. Many people becomes addicted to gambling without they knows and that's because they greed before and trying to chase their wins. They don't knows that when they greed, that just makes them keeps playing gambling without stops and they will comes back in the next days. If they comes back too often, that can triggers them to becomes addicted to gambling.

 
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June 01, 2024, 10:46:44 AM
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Well, greediness is not the only thing that exists or is actually experienced in gambling. No matter where we are in relation to money, greediness is always around. It's really up to us if we keep it in our thoughts and adopt it to apply to our character.

The only thing that is usually really useful is that there is too much greed in the gambling category because most of the gambling players are small, hoping that they will get a lucky jackpot that they think will happen to them who also got the jackpot prize in gambling instant wealth. That's it.

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June 01, 2024, 11:08:25 AM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible.
What is the difference between greed and frugality? These qualities are practically no different, only in their emotional coloring, that is, give a negative connotation to greed, and a positive connotation to frugality. In fact, this is the same quality, but depending on the situation it brings either harm or benefit. In your case, greed transforms into wastefulness.

How is gaming addiction different from strong passion? These two qualities are also no different.

I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.
These reasons most often act together, enhancing the effect.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.
Stimulants such as anticipation (the expectation that a big win will soon appear), joy and pleasure from winning (a positive stimulus that encourages repeated repetition), disappointment and sadness from losing (a negative stimulus that one does not want to repeat) also appear here.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.
Really? Will long-term dependence with small bets accumulate into large losses over many years?

When comparing which is worse, greed or gambling addiction, you lose sight of the fact that these qualities are almost equally valuable in terms of harmfulness.


However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy

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June 01, 2024, 11:45:08 AM
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And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.
One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.
A big win will also make someone lose more, after getting a big win someone will be more confident that he will get a big win from the bet he made, the more here they will be more greedy and more think that they can get what they want from gambling, I think everything has a correlation with what is being talked about because it will get greedy and addiction which has a close relationship with the case of someone getting disastrous from gambling.

Yes most people deny that they are greedy and addicted, they refuse to admit it and feel that they can control themselves, but what we see is that they use most of their money to gamble and tell the truth after everything is used up in gambling, I found cases like this, when someone feels that they still have money they are arrogant and do not accept the facts, but when the money runs out they tell the truth that they regret having gambled their money in gambling without restrictions, but when they have the money back they make the same mistake.

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June 01, 2024, 11:50:56 AM
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Geed is far way more dangerous than addiction. Then imagine greed plus addiction. Any gambler who possess these two detrimental characters will never be successful in gambling. The consequences of greed is that it make us want to stake high amount and we may end up putting all our bankroll at ones for a big cash out which at the end may be lucky to win or may end up losing all out money in one bet. The greed can limit us from making inclined decisions. IN a scenario where we are already making wins in gambling of which it is satisfying to quit at that moment but we choose to continue, of course that is greed and there are higher chances of us losing both our profits and capital in the bet again.

Sometimes we possesses these characteristics because we have a target or pending bills to pay. My advice is that relying on gambling to settle debts, start business and do other important things in life is not proper. Gambling wins or profits is to support us financially but shouldn't be a major source of income in this life.
Although greed empties our budget after betting, when we are awake to calculate the nature and problem, nature still points the arrow down to serious addiction because no matter how greedy we are, without addiction there will be no place for us to actualize that greed and even when greed is free to play but in a non-addictive situation, it's still a safe game. It sounds dangerous, but the safety is still higher than an addict, they build sustainability while greed builds transience, besides, addiction fuels greed, instead of vice versa.

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June 01, 2024, 12:24:35 PM
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Geed is far way more dangerous than addiction. Then imagine greed plus addiction. Any gambler who possess these two detrimental characters will never be successful in gambling. The consequences of greed is that it make us want to stake high amount and we may end up putting all our bankroll at ones for a big cash out which at the end may be lucky to win or may end up losing all out money in one bet. The greed can limit us from making inclined decisions. IN a scenario where we are already making wins in gambling of which it is satisfying to quit at that moment but we choose to continue, of course that is greed and there are higher chances of us losing both our profits and capital in the bet again.

Sometimes we possesses these characteristics because we have a target or pending bills to pay. My advice is that relying on gambling to settle debts, start business and do other important things in life is not proper. Gambling wins or profits is to support us financially but shouldn't be a major source of income in this life.
Although greed empties our budget after betting, when we are awake to calculate the nature and problem, nature still points the arrow down to serious addiction because no matter how greedy we are, without addiction there will be no place for us to actualize that greed and even when greed is free to play but in a non-addictive situation, it's still a safe game. It sounds dangerous, but the safety is still higher than an addict, they build sustainability while greed builds transience, besides, addiction fuels greed, instead of vice versa.

This means that greed and addiction cannot be separated because they will always go hand in hand, and also greed will always be there if the activity has elements that can make someone addicted to get the same results as the wins they have previously gotten, and one of the things that triggers I think the occurrence of addiction in gambling is clear because the object of winning is money which everyone will always need money and because this also ultimately triggers greed to get bigger amounts.

So it is clear that in my opinion the beginning of greed is because this activity has elements that can make someone addicted so they want more rewards, even though it is very clear that this is a wrong action and mindset, but yes, that is how it is when someone is involved in gambling without having a pattern. rational thinking and point of view which ultimately leads them to various harmful actions, because it is clear that for example someone is able to think rationally before
they are involved in gambling and understand how gambling really is then
I don't think they will end up with addiction and greed, so it depends on the person whether he can be a responsible gambler or not.

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June 01, 2024, 05:00:07 PM
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And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.
One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.
A big win will also make someone lose more, after getting a big win someone will be more confident that he will get a big win from the bet he made, the more here they will be more greedy and more think that they can get what they want from gambling, I think everything has a correlation with what is being talked about because it will get greedy and addiction which has a close relationship with the case of someone getting disastrous from gambling.

Yes most people deny that they are greedy and addicted, they refuse to admit it and feel that they can control themselves, but what we see is that they use most of their money to gamble and tell the truth after everything is used up in gambling, I found cases like this, when someone feels that they still have money they are arrogant and do not accept the facts, but when the money runs out they tell the truth that they regret having gambled their money in gambling without restrictions, but when they have the money back they make the same mistake.
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Greed and addiction lead to chasing losses, betting money you don't have, and wrecking your life. Be smart when gambling. Set limitations, follow them, and remember it's a game. Don't get caught up in the rush, don't try to win back what you lost, and don't bet more than you can afford

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June 01, 2024, 05:38:46 PM
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Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.

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June 01, 2024, 06:02:44 PM
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Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.
You spoked so well mate. Addiction is a long run something but greediness comes once in a while. However both addition and greediness are almost the same but one comes first before the other. If not for greediness some gamblers won't have been addicted to gamble. Gamble is fun when winning but few gamblers gamble for profit. Although gambling for profits alone doesn't make one to be addicted. When a gambler is gambling for profits and greedy same time it makes them becomes addicted.

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June 01, 2024, 06:25:31 PM
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Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.
You spoked so well mate. Addiction is a long run something but greediness comes once in a while. However both addition and greediness are almost the same but one comes first before the other. If not for greediness some gamblers won't have been addicted to gamble. Gamble is fun when winning but few gamblers gamble for profit. Although gambling for profits alone doesn't make one to be addicted. When a gambler is gambling for profits and greedy same time it makes them becomes addicted.

Yes, it means that greed is what leads gamblers to addiction or it could be the other way around. Everyone loves money, especially if they manage to get it with little effort, or without having to spend a lot of sweat like doing general work. But what they don't remember is that gambling will always remain a risky activity that can make them experience losing money in any amount according to the amount of budget they bet.

On the other hand you said that only a few gamblers come with the intention of earning? I think it's quite the opposite, the majority of gamblers are those who gamble with the intention and purpose of earning, the reason is because they think that they can get a lot of money with little effort, but it has been proven that in the end they experience a lot of bad things in their lives such as financial problems where they run out of a lot of money and even they have to sell some of their valuables or borrow from some services just to gamble, and maybe I would say that they are typical gamblers who are involved in gambling but not with the right understanding of how gambling really is.

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June 01, 2024, 08:17:50 PM
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For me, I will say the two works in hand in hand because if someone is greedy while gambling, he will wants to gamble more, in that case, addiction steps in, which is very hard for any gamblers to stop.

And there is no way a person will gamble and win, he will still wants to gamble more, that is you have a target that day, maybe you are looking for money which you want to use it for something else, and you said, you want to go and try luck in gambling, and eventually your luck shine and win but it's not enough and you want to gamble more, while gambling, you start losing and then you will be angry and wants to try again and win again, just like that, one becomes an addict and anything that makes a gambler become greedy or an addicts, it's never going to be a benefit one for the person, it will have a side effect in their lives. So no one is good or better, the two are worst thing a gambler would experience.


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June 01, 2024, 08:33:30 PM
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Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.
You spoked so well mate. Addiction is a long run something but greediness comes once in a while. However both addition and greediness are almost the same but one comes first before the other. If not for greediness some gamblers won't have been addicted to gamble. Gamble is fun when winning but few gamblers gamble for profit. Although gambling for profits alone doesn't make one to be addicted. When a gambler is gambling for profits and greedy same time it makes them becomes addicted.
You are right, excessive love for money makes a gambler gamble more than required, which results in him getting to that point where he can no longer say no to gambling. Like I said before, addiction doesn't just happen, something triggered it to  happen. In the case of gambling, addiction is triggered by greed and this makes greed even more disastrous. Greed doesn't only lead to addiction, it causes loss of money, ruins relationships and causes so many other unimaginable harms to the greedy gambler. As long as gamblers continue to ignore the potential consequences of greed, they will keep getting into trouble.

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June 01, 2024, 08:58:50 PM
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Well, greediness is not the only thing that exists or is actually experienced in gambling. No matter where we are in relation to money, greediness is always around. It's really up to us if we keep it in our thoughts and adopt it to apply to our character.

The only thing that is usually really useful is that there is too much greed in the gambling category because most of the gambling players are small, hoping that they will get a lucky jackpot that they think will happen to them who also got the jackpot prize in gambling instant wealth. That's it.
I don't know what you mean by saying the gambling players are small because am certain that opposite it is the case when it comes to the numbers of gamblers out there. What I feel is the cause is just based on the fact that every gambler just wants to have a piece of the luck that maybe must have gotten to some else because from my observations the quickest way for a story to be spread is when someone actually won some huge amount of money, believe me it takes no second for the whole thing to reflect or reach the ears of the entire world.

People are attracted to other people winnings and for me this is not greedy as it's a normal thing for people to get inspired by their winnings but the only issue now is that they would be know when they want to stop and start.

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June 01, 2024, 09:14:53 PM
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Well, greediness is not the only thing that exists or is actually experienced in gambling. No matter where we are in relation to money, greediness is always around. It's really up to us if we keep it in our thoughts and adopt it to apply to our character.

The only thing that is usually really useful is that there is too much greed in the gambling category because most of the gambling players are small, hoping that they will get a lucky jackpot that they think will happen to them who also got the jackpot prize in gambling instant wealth. That's it.
We are born greedy in nature. In fact, that serves as our own motivation but the outcome will only differ based on how you will use your greed. If you are highly greedy and turns uncontrollable, that is never good anymore. You will end up falling into gambling addiction eventually. However, if you only use your greed minimally, there’s never wrong with it as long as you know how to control and limit your greed. Gambling addiction starts with a greedy mindset, that’s why as much as possible, learn to control your greed so you won’t up falling into gambling addiction.

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June 01, 2024, 09:56:20 PM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.
I'd say, addiction is more deadly than any other urge a gambler would have.. a greedy gambler can gamble away all his earnings and also, his assets; but mostimes, they could get across an interception that would blur the vision and submerge his extravagant attitude.. it may be his wifey, children, parents, job, friends, or real life problems.

Addiction is a different story in general; they could get an interception and, after a while, they'd be back trying to wager again. Subconsciously, they're always thinking they could win through the period they're not actively gambling.

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June 01, 2024, 11:50:23 PM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy

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Being greedy, just like being addict, isn't on-off situation. There are differeent levels of being greedy, and different levels of being addicts. Most of the people share some of the both traits, but they aren't in a level that's problematic. Definition of greedy can seem different to different people. People who are ultimately greedy because it's part of their sociopath symptoms might see only positive sides by being greedy.  Especially when they themselves are greedy. Others can be obstacles for them if they are.

Addicts often seem greedy as nothing satisfies them. Actually it could be brain rewarding issue, when greedy person wants more, they get their dopamine fix, but that's not enough for a while. When addicts get their dopamine fix, they are greedy for something, and that something isn't filling their needs too long before they need another fix. This fix can be anything they are addicted to. But it's not ever enough. And for greedy people, it's not always just more money. It can be more of anything, and it never fills their need for too long.

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June 02, 2024, 08:10:50 PM
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One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.
A big win will also make someone lose more, after getting a big win someone will be more confident that he will get a big win from the bet he made, the more here they will be more greedy and more think that they can get what they want from gambling, I think everything has a correlation with what is being talked about because it will get greedy and addiction which has a close relationship with the case of someone getting disastrous from gambling.

Yes most people deny that they are greedy and addicted, they refuse to admit it and feel that they can control themselves, but what we see is that they use most of their money to gamble and tell the truth after everything is used up in gambling, I found cases like this, when someone feels that they still have money they are arrogant and do not accept the facts, but when the money runs out they tell the truth that they regret having gambled their money in gambling without restrictions, but when they have the money back they make the same mistake.
That first major win is bait, not wealth. It makes you feel like a wizard, not just a lucky schmuck, on your own supply. Unfortunately, casinos aren't charities. They're meant to make, not provide. Every game and dice roll is rigged for them, not you. You may get lucky, but it eventually runs out. If you're not careful, your first big win can turn into a massive loss, regret, and empty wallets

Greed and addiction lead to chasing losses, betting money you don't have, and wrecking your life. Be smart when gambling. Set limitations, follow them, and remember it's a game. Don't get caught up in the rush, don't try to win back what you lost, and don't bet more than you can afford
Yes, it can also be said to be a bait, a big win will make a person think that he gets wealth easily, then feel that he can create money, and if we are fixated on that thought then it is possible that we will come back and come back to get money again in the same way by bringing bigger money and entering the casino and thinking that he will get a lot more money because he has a large capital, greed and addiction to victory begin to envelop his heart and mind, but after the big win no longer get what was expected before.

In the end he used money that could not be lost then continued to pursue it and ended up losing everything even the money he had won from the previous game, people who are covered in greed and addiction will be disastrous in life, this applies in any field.

yes the point is not to chase what has been lost, never try and try after the limit of money budgeted for gambling has been exhausted which forces you to deposit again, avoid actions that will make us impulsive towards gambling to maintain sanity.

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June 02, 2024, 08:36:01 PM
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Addiction and greediness are two different things for me, both terms are used in several situations and when it comes to gambling, addiction comes because of greediness, it is that feeling which makes any gambler not satisfied so he keep gambling, until he becomes an addict, this last one as you mentioned in your example :   
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addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

This mindset of a gambler who is going or started an early addiction, first times of gambling, that person will enjoy any amount he best with, until he begins in selling everything and risking his savings to feel that adrenaline rush, with small amount at the very beginning until he raises his bet amounts due to greediness, eventually these both feelings are going to destroy him and his life very slowly without noticing it.

If you want an answer to your question, you can Imagine any drug addict who started with weed until engaging in dangerous and mortal drugs, greediness to me is attached with addiction most of the time

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