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May 31, 2024, 08:06:34 AM
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Greed will usually be realized when you have lost a lot but addiction is often not realized and even the person experiencing it may deny it, and both are dangerous and which of the two is more disastrous? I don't know for sure, but in my opinion, both are disastrous because both can lead people to great loss, but people who are greedy when they realize it can change instantly don't need help from other people, but addiction can only be changed or cured with therapy, even though they realize and try to recover, without help from professional is very possible for him to return to his addiction, so if I had to choose I would choose to be greedy rather than being addicted but not experiencing both is much better because both are detrimental to the person who experiences it.

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May 31, 2024, 08:22:39 AM
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For me I think greed could be the reason why many people are addicted to gambling. Greed will make you to use all your money to gambling thinking you will get a gain from it,  Greed will make you not to understand your playing limit, and sometimes if you are not careful greed can also make one not to have good self control.  I think if one can be able to handle greed it will be possible for one try not to get addicted to gambling. But when one is so much greedy the next habit that will be developed is addiction. Greediness and addiction they work together, it is something that every gambler needs to avoid because it can runs one's life.

That's right, addiction and greed are actually one unit, gambling addicts are created because of greed and they cannot be separated, so I don't want to be both. I am quite active in gambling but I try my best not to be addicted to gambling and become a greedy person, gambling is really fun when we are able to control it, greed is a destructive thing and it really must be thrown away by everyone.


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May 31, 2024, 08:24:11 AM
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do we really need to differentiate this? isn't greed turns addiction? because if there is no greediness then gamblers will be contented in small winning then they will never turn into the saddest as addiction?

sorry but I think they are one and that is why never to become greedy in gambling if you don't wanna become addicted.
@OP might has linguistic bachelor degree, that's why he treat every words different even though the result of both of them are same. Cheesy

Either addict or greedy will make gamblers lost all of their money since the house edge make the casino will win in the end. The only exception if the gambler has a power to print money, so he don't have to worry about his loss since he can print new money over and over.

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May 31, 2024, 08:35:05 AM
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It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.
I don't think it's proper, or better stated as smart to undermine the disastrous tendency of addiction over greed. Greed is mild in gambling issues if you must know and the context of greed is everywhere, you will never see a human being that is not greedy in one facet of life or another. This is partly why the context of greed is even relative as what some people terms as greed may not necessarily mean greed to others. But can you say of such in addiction? Also, if I may ask you, what is most popular when it comes to the issues associated with gambling, is it greed or addiction? Addiction of corse, and this should have hinted to you that addiction is not what you should undermine for whatever reason. It is so destructive to the point that it could cost people their lives.

If you agree with me, most people are not addicted to gambling even as many people could be greedy at one point or the other while gambling, and they should be thankful because it (greed) is momentarily. If you are greedy in a bet now, that doesn't mean you will continue to be betting, No, such a person may just go home and recount his ordeal and perhaps vow not to repeat the same mistake again. Such may even not gamble again for months or weeks to heal from the wound. But it is a different case when you are addicted, you will continue going there whether you are wasting money daily or not, which is bitterly disastrous.

Let me conclude by saying addiction is evil, a waster, it is very terrible and makes sure that you are irresponsible in gambling which will surely affect your living as well, but greed only teaches a painful lesson. However, that is only if the outcome of the betting is negative, but mind you, it is not all greedy bets that comes out negative.

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May 31, 2024, 09:22:06 AM
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For me I think greed could be the reason why many people are addicted to gambling. Greed will make you to use all your money to gambling thinking you will get a gain from it,  Greed will make you not to understand your playing limit, and sometimes if you are not careful greed can also make one not to have good self control.  I think if one can be able to handle greed it will be possible for one try not to get addicted to gambling. But when one is so much greedy the next habit that will be developed is addiction. Greediness and addiction they work together, it is something that every gambler needs to avoid because it can runs one's life.

That's right, addiction and greed are actually one unit, gambling addicts are created because of greed and they cannot be separated, so I don't want to be both. I am quite active in gambling but I try my best not to be addicted to gambling and become a greedy person, gambling is really fun when we are able to control it, greed is a destructive thing and it really must be thrown away by everyone.

Yes it is a unity that always goes hand in hand, and as we know that a gambler who is addicted they always apply greed every time they gamble, especially when they are in a winning situation where instead of cashing out the winnings but they continue the session with higher hopes and confidence to get a bigger win.

As you said that you don't want to experience both because after all clearly addiction is a situation that can really cause a lot of bad disasters in our lives, and we can see that there are even some people who are desperate to commit suicide which recently happened in the area where I live because of addiction and I heard the news that he had a lot of debt which means that most likely he experienced significant stress due to debt, Therefore as you said that as much as possible we should be able to avoid the possibility of addiction by implementing various precautions, and yes it is true that gambling will only be enjoyed when we can control it.

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May 31, 2024, 09:56:04 AM
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That's right, addiction and greed are actually one unit, gambling addicts are created because of greed and they cannot be separated, so I don't want to be both. I am quite active in gambling but I try my best not to be addicted to gambling and become a greedy person, gambling is really fun when we are able to control it, greed is a destructive thing and it really must be thrown away by everyone.

Actually, I don't see much distinction between these disastrous habit of gambling, they are just like a vicious circle and one lead to another. Greediness is the mother of addiction, it makes one to gamble often simply because they want to win more and more which lead to addiction in the long run. Addiction don't just start like that, it starts gradually as you continue gambling frequently and to some stage that you can stay for hours without gambling.

To answer the Op question, I will say greediness is more disastrous than addiction since it's the cause root of addiction and if one can control one's greediness, becoming addicted to gambling will be easy to handle. Greed tells you to gamble more you might probably win from this round, if you listen to that revelation your journey to addiction has just started. We know the dangers being addicted to gambling cause to gamblers, it is necessary to control our greediness as a step to begin with.

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May 31, 2024, 11:10:02 AM
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Addiction. Greedy person could be greedy once, and they could do something wrong and they can learn a lesson from there, which is totally fine. However, if we are talking about someone who doesn't know what to do regards to their addiction then they are going to get a lot more in trouble for sure.

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Just like you, I would also say that addiction is more disastrous than greed. When someone is addicted to gambling, they will no longer think about how they gamble, because what they need most is to gamble and gamble until their desires are fulfilled. Addiction has reached an advanced level and treatment usually requires professionals, because it has a direct impact on the thoughts and actions of gamblers. And therefore addiction is more disastrous because it is a complex problem and addicted gamblers usually do not feel that what they are doing is wrong.

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 I'm afraid when it comes to money issues, this two; greed and addiction walk side by side. Gamblers believe that once they stake a game and they win it, there's the possibility of staking higher and winning bigger and thats where greed comes in. I've got a friend who stakes little money on a game, and if he wins, begins to regret not putting more money in it and as such isn't content with the amount won and will want to keep playing. Such kinds of peeps don't get satisfied easily and even though they are excited for the temporal huge win, they get the urge to keep playing to multiply their winnings.

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People who can not control his greediness in gambling will falls deeper in gambling without seeing that he is makes mistakes. When people becomes addicted to gambling, he will not thinks about himself and only want to playing gambling and when he win, he wants to get more win and at that time, his greediness will becomes big. He will not have a chance to control himself and that will only makes him deeper in gambling. Both greediness and addiction can makes someone's lives ruins and can not see what happens to him. That is why we must have good self control when playing gambling so we do not addicted to gambling and we can control our greediness. Playing gambling is just for fun so we can always limits our gambling activity and not trying to playing gambling excessively which can effects us to addicted to gambling.
I do not agree with this, addiction could make you fall into a pit, and being too greedy could turn into addiction as well, but greed itself is not dangerous at default because it can be stopped. You could be greedy once, and learn your mistake and never be that greedy again, in that case greed isn't bad because it teaches you how to do better.

I personally believe that we are going to end up with something much better one way or another, and should definitely consider how we can get better from it. Addiction on the other hand is not something that would be all that great, we should consider how we could get better and how we could move forward with it, it shouldn't be really all that complicated because addiction is much worse.

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May 31, 2024, 02:22:40 PM
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People who can not control his greediness in gambling will falls deeper in gambling without seeing that he is makes mistakes. When people becomes addicted to gambling, he will not thinks about himself and only want to playing gambling and when he win, he wants to get more win and at that time, his greediness will becomes big. He will not have a chance to control himself and that will only makes him deeper in gambling. Both greediness and addiction can makes someone's lives ruins and can not see what happens to him. That is why we must have good self control when playing gambling so we do not addicted to gambling and we can control our greediness. Playing gambling is just for fun so we can always limits our gambling activity and not trying to playing gambling excessively which can effects us to addicted to gambling.
I do not agree with this, addiction could make you fall into a pit, and being too greedy could turn into addiction as well, but greed itself is not dangerous at default because it can be stopped. You could be greedy once, and learn your mistake and never be that greedy again, in that case greed isn't bad because it teaches you how to do better.

I personally believe that we are going to end up with something much better one way or another, and should definitely consider how we can get better from it. Addiction on the other hand is not something that would be all that great, we should consider how we could get better and how we could move forward with it, it shouldn't be really all that complicated because addiction is much worse.
And I believe that greediness can be stopped as we realized that we are doing wrong but addiction seems to be a big challenge for everyone that hardly changes. The more we chase losses, the more we become addicted, and the more it becomes disastrous to our lives.
Maybe, if we can stop our greediness to the fullest, I believe this will end everything we suffer which I believe it is the main reason for addiction. Having these things, gambling is not enjoyable anymore and this brings us to the worst scenario as we are about to compromise our lives mentally and financially.

Honestly, it is too lucky to see a gambler who is addicted but not greedy or vice versa.  
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May 31, 2024, 03:33:50 PM
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People who can not control his greediness in gambling will falls deeper in gambling without seeing that he is makes mistakes. When people becomes addicted to gambling, he will not thinks about himself and only want to playing gambling and when he win, he wants to get more win and at that time, his greediness will becomes big. He will not have a chance to control himself and that will only makes him deeper in gambling. Both greediness and addiction can makes someone's lives ruins and can not see what happens to him. That is why we must have good self control when playing gambling so we do not addicted to gambling and we can control our greediness. Playing gambling is just for fun so we can always limits our gambling activity and not trying to playing gambling excessively which can effects us to addicted to gambling.
I do not agree with this, addiction could make you fall into a pit, and being too greedy could turn into addiction as well, but greed itself is not dangerous at default because it can be stopped. You could be greedy once, and learn your mistake and never be that greedy again, in that case greed isn't bad because it teaches you how to do better.

I personally believe that we are going to end up with something much better one way or another, and should definitely consider how we can get better from it. Addiction on the other hand is not something that would be all that great, we should consider how we could get better and how we could move forward with it, it shouldn't be really all that complicated because addiction is much worse.
And I believe that greediness can be stopped as we realized that we are doing wrong but addiction seems to be a big challenge for everyone that hardly changes. The more we chase losses, the more we become addicted, and the more it becomes disastrous to our lives.
Maybe, if we can stop our greediness to the fullest, I believe this will end everything we suffer which I believe it is the main reason for addiction. Having these things, gambling is not enjoyable anymore and this brings us to the worst scenario as we are about to compromise our lives mentally and financially.

Honestly, it is too lucky to see a gambler who is addicted but not greedy or vice versa.  

Well said. I believe Addiction opens the gamblers to greediness, over expectancy, and other bad gambling habits. When one is addicted he can devise any means to satisfy his urge and quest, getting addicted is very bad and hard to cut off from, one can learn from a mistake he made from one game, immediately stop being greedy after then as some of us have been greedy and stop it but when it comes to Addiction that is not the case, it affect you emotionally, financially, and even in Relationships.

I would say, we prevent getting addicted by all means, this is the ultimate source of bad habits which never leads to happy ending.
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May 31, 2024, 03:46:26 PM
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I'm afraid when it comes to money issues, this two; greed and addiction walk side by side. Gamblers believe that once they stake a game and they win it, there's the possibility of staking higher and winning bigger and thats where greed comes in. I've got a friend who stakes little money on a game, and if he wins, begins to regret not putting more money in it and as such isn't content with the amount won and will want to keep playing. Such kinds of peeps don't get satisfied easily and even though they are excited for the temporal huge win, they get the urge to keep playing to multiply their winnings.

Yep I'm sure what you said is indeed a fact because indeed two years ago I also experienced the problem of addiction in myself which is like what you said that when the result at the end of the session wins then at that time the feeling arises to continue the session by betting a higher amount because we must understand that when someone is in that situation then various temptations will come to mind which all encourage us to return to betting higher amounts in order to get a bigger win and obviously this is greed.

And yes like what you said about your friend where he bet a small amount but when it turned out that the result won then he would feel sorry for not betting a higher amount, but one thing we must understand that even if for example we bet with a higher amount maybe the result will be different or maybe it turns out that we lose, so that's why it's important for a gambler to have a sense of gratitude in himself by accepting whatever the result at the end of the session, if indeed the amount of our victory is small then it is indeed the amount of our luck on that day. So the point is that the point that we must pay attention to in the context of greed is that we will never be able to get a real winning amount if we always apply greed, because we definitely want to continue until we finally lose everything.

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Once the player already experienced wins they will chase more for it, sometimes they already get what they want but due to greediness they want to win more, so they keep playing and hoping to win a large set of numbers again in their multiplier but the opposite happens they didnt win instead they keep losing and lose their gains from the previous games, and reason to lose. After their game and making another set of it they keep hitting bad luck instead and hoping to get at least what they have achieved from their previous games that's the time they are now getting addicted for chasing a large amount of money. Playing without setting your limitation and budget might lead to addiction.

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       -    Actually, that's just bad luck, but most of the time it's the greediness that always leads gamblers to addiction. You won't become an addict if you don't let greed enter your body.
That's why it must be resisted at all costs.

Because if only we gamblers know how to control ourselves, the result of our gambling will always be good, whether we win or lose, because we gamble responsibly.
Indeed. As they say we can get born with an existing greedy nature but I haven't heard yet that addiction is also included with it. All the times, addiction only came out for a long term of doing an activity or consuming something. A losing result is bad but if we are like that (a responsible gambler), we can only lose less and it's not going to be long for us to recover and go back to having a positive mindset again.

For the addicted gamblers, even though their outcome is good in gambling, it will only revert to bad in a short period of time because they will continue playing or they will re-deposit again if they do a withdrawal earlier.

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Well, I don't think it's every addicted gambler that gets greedy; some gamblers might be extremely addicted to gambling but may not show any form of greedy attitude in them. Gambling addiction is already a big problem for a gambler to handle, If the gambler is also a greedy person at the same time, then he is really in a big mess. I know how greed has actually dealt with some people in crypto trading, and if I should relate it to gambling, I would say it's not good at all for a gambler to be greedy. 

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May 31, 2024, 07:42:37 PM
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I think that one of the most common reasons that causes Gambling addiction is greediness itself. In many cases, a gambler falls into addiction because he gets so greedy that he always wants to win more and more and tries to gamble everytime even though he wins some money but he is never satisfied of the results.

Being an addicted gambler is already a terrible thing to live with and uncontrollable, let along being both addicted and greedy.

I think that I can't pick any side from these two cases because they are both terrible in their own way, being a greedy gambler would definitely make you fall into addiction anyways.

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May 31, 2024, 08:28:49 PM
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I believe that these two are correlated and walk side by side. You win a few games, you're becoming confident that you've found a way to earn some quick and easy cash, your greed exceeds any logical barrier, and you keep gambling more and more. You're slowly becoming addicted due to your thirst for more. Eventually, you start losing more and more money; you cannot stop gambling in an effort to recoup your losses and dig further down the rabbit hole. Ultimately, you're stuck in a loop—a vicious cycle you cannot escape unless you put an end to it.

These two notions go side by side; one is required by the other, and vice versa. At least that's how I see things.

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June 01, 2024, 02:30:22 AM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy

Gamble Responsibly...

Its all circumstantial and different for every person. I think the addicted gambler who keeps on gambling and gambling for the most part is probably not a winner. They keep gambling so long and for so much money over time hoping that they will eventually hit their big break, but they hold onto their smaller wins and the little cash a little more dearly. A gambler that is greedy is willing to risk it all, so pretty much its either a slow burn compared to an explosion if you zoom all the way out, right ?
Before getting down to addiction, it first has to go through the act of greediness, from that desperate urge to win big, which will affect the amount used to gamble, the number of times the users gambling and even when there is not enough money to gamble the user has no choice other than to find every available measures without considering the risk.  Both factors has rendered many users to pay a difficult price, chasing loses and finally ending financially broke.

Good point, greed definitely leads to addiction! Greed is also a form of addiction if you think about it. Addicted to the accumulation or "married to the money" they say. But lets say they hit that big stroke of luck, now they are married to the money for real. If their greed leads to financial ruin, welp, hate to say it but they married the game  aka the gambling in the form of casinos, slots, craps, you name it.

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June 01, 2024, 06:47:52 AM
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I believe that these two are correlated and walk side by side. You win a few games, you're becoming confident that you've found a way to earn some quick and easy cash, your greed exceeds any logical barrier, and you keep gambling more and more. You're slowly becoming addicted due to your thirst for more. Eventually, you start losing more and more money; you cannot stop gambling in an effort to recoup your losses and dig further down the rabbit hole. Ultimately, you're stuck in a loop—a vicious cycle you cannot escape unless you put an end to it.

These two notions go side by side; one is required by the other, and vice versa. At least that's how I see things.
And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.

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June 01, 2024, 06:52:10 AM
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I will say that both are harmful. We can't determine which harms more. But yes, if a person has one of the mentioned qualities, then it will do the damage on the same level. In both greediness and addiction, there is a huge chance that you might lose your money. Specifically if you are gambling with these qualities. Hence, rather than comparing the two, it would be better to avoid these qualities in yourself as a gambler. Just set small targets and gamble until you achieve them.

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