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May 29, 2024, 05:14:48 PM
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I have learned something new about gambling, with my new invention.

There is a house edge, in pvp games.

But in the UMG, there is a house edge, and the rtp is still 100%

This is because of the intense skill based nature, UMG composes.

UMG, official worlds, are players vs bots. Meaning users are betting for the houses money, instead of players money. But it is still pvp.

The rtp is set to 99.9%, but UMG has disabled users ability to use advantages such as force luck, limiting users from using the main consensus of their skill.

Now UMG, has implemented a house edge, while keeping the rtp 100%, or 99.9%

I just thought it was cool and that I would share since I see users saying there is no House Edge in PvP games. Before this was true, now it is not due to UMG.



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May 29, 2024, 07:09:50 PM
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Do you actually take all these as revelations, maybe they are only effective or being applicable to you alone because we are not in this altogether for now, if you make a discovery, it may only works for you and that same thing may not work for others, a lot had been talked about these already and its more better you choose the part or aspect you think goes along with your take, we are not being forced to gamble, we make selection of our choices.

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May 29, 2024, 07:42:14 PM
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Why make another account? Your other account isn't banned yet. If you really want users to take a look at your bs, then don't be so annoying and don't try to start arguments with anyone who disagrees with your opinion. Market your stuff in a respectable way and see what happens. Trying to shove shit down users throats in a guerilla type way, isn't going to get you anything.

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May 29, 2024, 09:13:10 PM
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Why make another account? Your other account isn't banned yet. If you really want users to take a look at your bs, then don't be so annoying and don't try to start arguments with anyone who disagrees with your opinion. Market your stuff in a respectable way and see what happens. Trying to shove shit down users throats in a guerilla type way, isn't going to get you anything.


I am not marketing, yahoo.

Just explaining, the new advancements, UMG has made for gambling.

Likewise, I have already had this account for months. When I have marketing to do per say, I will use the UMG account.

Right now I am not marketing.

Yahoo, we got off on the wrong foot, and it was not your fault.

(You were only trying to help)

But, you must realize, if something does not work on Bitcoin Talk Forum, it is not the end of the world.

Bitcoin Talk Forum, is only a small fraction of users on the UMG.

You are just aware of UMG, because it needs to be circulated within all audiences.

What I am trying to say, is if Bitcoin Talk Forum, does not support UMG, UMG, will still be the leading pioneer in the gambling market.

UMG is not depending on Bitcoin Talk Forum to stay alive.

Although Bitcoin Talk Forum, members would want to play UMG, and UMG, still values the Bitcoin Talk Forum and all it's users opinions.

Likewise, I am only making all of UMG's achievements known.
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May 29, 2024, 10:01:40 PM
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I have learned something new about gambling, with my new invention.

There is a house edge, in pvp games.

But in the UMG, there is a house edge, and the rtp is still 100%

This is because of the intense skill based nature, UMG composes.

UMG, official worlds, are players vs bots. Meaning users are betting for the houses money, instead of players money. But it is still pvp.

The rtp is set to 99.9%, but UMG has disabled users ability to use advantages such as force luck, limiting users from using the main consensus of their skill.

Now UMG, has implemented a house edge, while keeping the rtp 100%, or 99.9%

I just thought it was cool and that I would share since I see users saying there is no House Edge in PvP games. Before this was true, now it is not due to UMG.

Doesn't matter...

If your games are not provably fair then people will not trust your engine, that's your next step, you need to provide people with the tools to prove how each round was fair. That's the only way to attract real users to your site.

I already try to help you with your project because i understand how hard it is to build something complex like that, but first, you need to see the problems with your project.

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I have learned something new about gambling, with my new invention.

There is a house edge, in pvp games.

But in the UMG, there is a house edge, and the rtp is still 100%

This is because of the intense skill based nature, UMG composes.

UMG, official worlds, are players vs bots. Meaning users are betting for the houses money, instead of players money. But it is still pvp.

The rtp is set to 99.9%, but UMG has disabled users ability to use advantages such as force luck, limiting users from using the main consensus of their skill.

Now UMG, has implemented a house edge, while keeping the rtp 100%, or 99.9%

I just thought it was cool and that I would share since I see users saying there is no House Edge in PvP games. Before this was true, now it is not due to UMG.

Doesn't matter...

If your games are not provably fair then people will not trust your engine, that's your next step, you need to provide people with the tools to prove how each round was fair. That's the only way to attract real users to your site.

I already try to help you with your project because i understand how hard it is to build something complex like that, but first, you need to see the problems with your project.


Seoincorporation, provably fair is implemented.

You did not see the message where I said, that UMG, host hundreds of lotteries every 5 seconds, so it is impossible for the system to be rigged. I apologize.
 
With the implementation, of the fair system, now it is absolutely certified the system is fair.

Take a look.

The system calculates a list, then numbers the list. Shows us that information. Then randomizes the list, and now the numbers correspond to the scrambled list.

This fair system is implemented, for hundreds of lotteries every 5 seconds, seo, it requires a dedicated team to rig the system. Hundreds of lotteries occurring every 5 seconds, 24/7.

UMG gambling, is more reliable even without a provably fair system.

It is extremely difficult, to rig a system every 5 seconds, 7 days out of the week for 24 hours.

Let alone hundreds of these systems.




Likewise, UMG, is pvp as well. Users can 1v1.

If the system was rigged a user would automatically be able to tell.

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May 30, 2024, 01:07:32 AM
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My revelation is, gambling is 50-50. Either you win or you lose.  Cheesy

Enjoy the experience with no expectations and it becomes enjoyable. Be prepared to lose the amount you put at the table. The outcome doesn't matter anymore!
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My revelation is, gambling is 50-50. Either you win or you lose.  Cheesy

Enjoy the experience with no expectations and it becomes enjoyable. Be prepared to lose the amount you put at the table. The outcome doesn't matter anymore!


That is correct, but UMG, allows users to manipulate their luck, to have a better chance of winning versus other users.
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May 30, 2024, 02:58:09 AM
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That is correct, but UMG, allows users to manipulate their luck, to have a better chance of winning versus other users.

Explain that better, otherwise you're earning a red tag.

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May 30, 2024, 04:03:00 AM
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That is correct, but UMG, allows users to manipulate their luck, to have a better chance of winning versus other users.

Explain that better, otherwise you're earning a red tag.

Poker Player, UMG, has a luck based system.

Each user, is able to monitor their luck. And obtain more luck.

The more luck, the better your chance of winning.

Likewise, the system will show each user, the luck of every winner.



This allows users to decipher how easy it is to win in a world, and how much money is required to win.

Allowing users to make wiser decisions. Ultimately leading to a profit.

Likewise the system will not allow users, to simply use money to override other users.

Users can manipulate their luck by placing more orders, or buying advantages.

All while making it fair for every user, no matter how much money they have.

Ensuring more people join the system, than leave.



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May 30, 2024, 05:43:39 AM
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Bitcoin Talk Forum, is only a small fraction of users on the UMG.

You are just aware of UMG, because it needs to be circulated within all audiences.
I have heard of UMG after reading your topic. Everyone is familiar with house edge though. So in you topic you are basically introducing UMG and suggesting others to use proper terms.

That is correct, but UMG, allows users to manipulate their luck, to have a better chance of winning versus other users.

Explain that better, otherwise you're earning a red tag.
Is this what a DT became these days? I have no idea if there is a past issue with this user but literally you are threatening a member of the forum to get their opinion LOL

 
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May 30, 2024, 06:06:27 AM
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I cannot for the life of me, understand how a casino with a 100% house edge, can be sustainable?

How do you pay your expenses, if the house takes no profit from the bets? They must over charge you for something else, if they do not profit from the gambling.

Please explain this in more detail.

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I cannot for the life of me, understand how a casino with a 100% house edge, can be sustainable?

How do you pay your expenses, if the house takes no profit from the bets? They must over charge you for something else, if they do not profit from the gambling.

Please explain this in more detail.

Hello, 'Kakmakr', UMG takes 0.1% of every bet. 1 x 0.001

So essentially for every group of bettors, each bet, 99.9% is dispersed back to a random selection of the players.

This, system is sustainable, due to the fact that it is functioning as a lottery, allowing all the money to go back, without the house's money being put in jeopardy.

  • The fee is so small, that users are not majorly affected, likewise enabling users to experience much more benefits.
  • The house's money is not put in jeopardy by users winning money, you can win and lose however many times, you want with no limitation.
  • The system will not limit the amount of money it will payout to users, because that is solely contingent upon how much money is put in.

In essence, the function of a lottery, can only pay back a maximum of, what was put into it, so at no point in time, can the system incorrectly pay a user an amount it is not capable of paying. And the system cannot go bankrupt from users winning either.

Likewise,

To answer your question, the house does take profit from bets. The RTP is just so high I rounded it up to 100%.

The actual rtp is 99.9%



Bitcoin Talk Forum, is only a small fraction of users on the UMG.

You are just aware of UMG, because it needs to be circulated within all audiences.
I have heard of UMG after reading your topic. Everyone is familiar with house edge though. So in you topic you are basically introducing UMG and suggesting others to use proper terms.

That is correct, but UMG, allows users to manipulate their luck, to have a better chance of winning versus other users.

Explain that better, otherwise you're earning a red tag.
Is this what a DT became these days? I have no idea if there is a past issue with this user but literally you are threatening a member of the forum to get their opinion LOL

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I have heard of UMG after reading your topic. Everyone is familiar with house edge though. So in you topic you are basically introducing UMG and suggesting others to use proper terms.
Correct, yes.

 
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Well, I sense marketing here, notwithstanding, I don't give it a thought, but you can't be sincere about it, that's the issue. Let me make this clear, though I don't know for others, I do not jump on casinos anyhow and no matter how you preach to support what you are stylishly selling, I am one of them who will not give it a try, at all. And I am happy to tell you that this attitude saved me 100% from direct and indirect fraud on the internet.

As for the calculation and argumentation you made above, come off it, it is just a means to lure people, casinos can never be trusted about the high winning possibility in a certain way as preached, that is a lie. If such a secret of 100% or 99% winning you made is true then it can't be long for people to know and ruin that branch of the casino. Casinos are no joke, they are in for serious business, so I wonder why they will bend the standard so much to the extent that gamblers will have an easy means to exploit them.

In the end, if people start losing through it, you will hear casino is a game of luck, who doesn't know that? But why preach more winning possibilities?

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May 30, 2024, 12:44:45 PM
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Well, I sense marketing here, notwithstanding, I don't give it a thought, but you can't be sincere about it, that's the issue. Let me make this clear, though I don't know for others, I do not jump on casinos anyhow and no matter how you preach to support what you are stylishly selling, I am one of them who will not give it a try, at all. And I am happy to tell you that this attitude saved me 100% from direct and indirect fraud on the internet.

As for the calculation and argumentation you made above, come off it, it is just a means to lure people, casinos can never be trusted about the high winning possibility in a certain way as preached, that is a lie. If such a secret of 100% or 99% winning you made is true then it can't be long for people to know and ruin that branch of the casino. Casinos are no joke, they are in for serious business, so I wonder why they will bend the standard so much to the extent that gamblers will have an easy means to exploit them.

In the end, if people start losing through it, you will hear casino is a game of luck, who doesn't know that? But why preach more winning possibilities?

'EarnonVictor', It's not marketing, I just have to explain users the game accurately, so they are aware that UMG is not just a fallacy or a fraud.

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Let me make this clear, though I don't know for others, I do not jump on casinos anyhow and no matter how you preach to support what you are stylishly selling

UMG is not a casino, it is an all-in-one platform allowing users to trade, gamble, play the lottery, and stake currency all at the same time, in one mechanism.


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As for the calculation and argumentation you made above, come off it, it is just a means to lure people, casinos can never be trusted about the high winning possibility in a certain way as preached, that is a lie.

I am not 'luring' people in

or 'selling' people a dream

It is very easy to win with UMG....

There are users right now winning, easily, without losing much of their money.

There are worlds setup to have X99 payout, rate.

The only difference is, it is low risk, low reward.

The key with UMG, is users have the freedom to gamble, play the lottery, and trade however they want, with no limitations.

So before if you were not interested, in casinos, that's ok. UMG is not a casino....

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Casinos are no joke, they are in for serious business, so I wonder why they will bend the standard so much to the extent that gamblers will have an easy means to exploit them.

UMG is just giving players the rigorous platform to generate revenue.

Users are playing against other players.

When users are exploiting a specific method, they are not hurting the house, they are hurting other players.

This is why UMG, allows certain methods to be exploited, it was designed, to give users many ways to make money.

You can definitely win consistently with UMG.

99.9% RTP, and a transparent system that lets you win however much you want.

I cannot stop preaching something, that I believe is true.

Likewise, i'm not selling anything right now.

I just want users to know UMG, was the first to do all of this and is the industry standard for gambling.
 

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In the end, if people start losing through it, you will hear casino is a game of luck, who doesn't know that? But why preach more winning possibilities?

In the end users will actually be winning more.

99.9% of the money put in is going back, the money is not lost...

You just need to figure out how you obtain a large sum of the money with your minor investment.


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May 30, 2024, 01:38:25 PM
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Is this what a DT became these days? I have no idea if there is a past issue with this user but literally you are threatening a member of the forum to get their opinion LOL

I will put it in context for you to understand it better. The OP is an alt account of this retard:

Why is this guy allowed to constantly break the rules?

That with his various alt accounts he keeps writing threads in the gambling section claiming things like this:

Vod what would you call a user, who has in less than 6 months, revolutionized the gambling industry for the better, with no help at all, at the age of 21.

https://www.google.com/search?q=delusional+meaning

Despite the fact that no one pays attention to his supposedly revolutionary systems. And no, I'm not threatening him for giving his opinion, it's the other way around. And as I feared, he confirms that according to him, in a pvp game:

Poker Player, UMG, has a luck based system.

Each user, is able to monitor their luck. And obtain more luck.

The more luck, the better your chance of winning.

For me that deserves a red tag. Can't think why?

Anyway, if I'm known for being aggressive with tags and I ended up in DT1 some time ago, it must be for a reason.

Btw; I've just remembered that I tagged his original account, so I should tag this alt as well.





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May 30, 2024, 03:49:21 PM
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I came from other thread... so, in a way, if all of these ruckus are publicity stunt, I guess it worked.

Moving to the topic itself, I can't help but wonder about these things:

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Bitcoin Talk Forum, is only a small fraction of users on the UMG.

You are just aware of UMG, because it needs to be circulated within all audiences.

What I am trying to say, is if Bitcoin Talk Forum, does not support UMG, UMG, will still be the leading pioneer in the gambling market.[...]

How many visitors to you website daily are we talking about here? And how many percentage of them are from the forum? I can't see any referral code added to the links on your original profile [unlimitedmoneygenerator] to track where does your visitor come from, so I am not sure where you pull that data from... I believe you have the analysis that you can confidently claim the forum is only a small fraction of your site?

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Each user, is able to monitor their luck. And obtain more luck.

The more luck, the better your chance of winning. [...]

How exactly someone can obtain more luck?

[...] Users can manipulate their luck by placing more orders, or buying advantages.

All while making it fair for every user, no matter how much money they have.

That's called lottery, no? You buy as many tickets as you wished, and by each ticket, your chance of winning increases.



Why make another account? Your other account isn't banned yet. If you really want users to take a look at your bs, then don't be so annoying and don't try to start arguments with anyone who disagrees with your opinion. Market your stuff in a respectable way and see what happens. Trying to shove shit down users throats in a guerilla type way, isn't going to get you anything.

His main account got warned by Cyrus for spam and was requested to reduce his spamming frequency. So he posted with other account.

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I can't see any referral code added to the links on your original profile [unlimitedmoneygenerator] to track where does your visitor come from, so I am not sure where you pull that data from... I believe you have the analysis that you can confidently claim the forum is only a small fraction of your site?

Btw; I've just remembered that I tagged his original account, so I should tag this alt as well.
After reading the post from holydarkness I have no reason to doubt because I trust his forum activities and judgement sense. Since they are alt, the same tag can be deserved. It make sense that your threat of giving the red tag came from the past discussion but when someone will read it without any prior knowledge it will sound like you were threatening. 

 
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May 31, 2024, 06:02:52 AM
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My revelation is, gambling is 50-50. Either you win or you lose.  Cheesy

Enjoy the experience with no expectations and it becomes enjoyable. Be prepared to lose the amount you put at the table. The outcome doesn't matter anymore!
If you apply the math of probability, that would probably only work in a computer or in a room that doesn't have an air pressure for toss coin, there's no such thing as 50/50 odds in gambling, there's always one part that's more than the other, take slots for example, if the odds is 50/50, that would mean that at least at 2 spins, you will win something big but that's not the case, there's a certain combinations in slots that have some level of chances of showing up. The problem with that revelation is that it creates some kind of false dichotomy, which leads people to believe that they can win most of the time in gambling when in reality, that's not the case, if that was true, we probably would see a lot of gamblers making money from gambling because they're bound to win because it's all 50/50 and there's never going to be a lot of casinos if that's the odds.
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May 31, 2024, 02:20:23 PM
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You have learned about gambling but you haven't fully learned about gambling yet. Gambling is risky and there are many lessons to be learned. Gambling is not at all like you gambled and gambled you sat down directly depending on luck. Relying directly on luck will lead to mistakes, so use your own experience and skills rather than relying directly on luck. Hope you do well in gambling.
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