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June 09, 2024, 07:11:47 PM |
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90-10 in favor of Pak and they should win this one comfortably unless they pull another vintage Pakistani stuff.
Yeah. That seems accurate since Rizwan is manouvering the chase like a boss even though everyone else around are collapsing. If India get Rizwan soon, the tables could turn like crazy. Am expecting Bumrah or Siraj to remove him since they are on fire in this match. Very entertaining match! They are still favorite. But i bet every Pakistani fan or even in their dugout every batter will be very nervous against Indians. Again IMO It's their game to lose and so far India only fought in patches so they didn't deserve to win. The equation is 37 runs out of 30 balls and 6 wickets in the bank so it's Pak's match.
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June 10, 2024, 04:26:48 AM |
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^ lol, it's almost like Pakistan just don't want to win against India. Pakistan loses the match handed to them on a silver platter, Jesus. Everyone is busy praising Bumrah, but it was solely Pakistan who choked here, there is little credit goes to the Indian bowlers. I hope to see few changes in Indian squad next match because despite the win, India overall performed poor. Even Pant, who from the look on scoreboard seems to have performed good, but it was not the case, he was simply given several free lives in form of dropped catches, and got lucky with the boundaries. Still, I wouldn't be too sure of replacing him with Samson though, I just liked the confidence how he was playing ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Kuldeep, Rinku should be in squad, there are no questions. Dube can sit out for Rinku and Kuldeep for Axar.
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June 10, 2024, 12:28:41 PM |
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Major disappointment from the Pakistan Cricket Team for their fans and followers, no one, even not the fans of the opponent team, was expecting them to lose such an easy game. Their bowlers did a great job, Naseem Shah, Haris, and Amir bowled extremely well, but their batsmen couldn't hold it together to chase such an easy target. The team tumbled after the wicket of Rizwan who should have taken the responsibility to at least push the game a bit forward but he couldn't do that.
Their chances to qualify for the Super 8 are extremely tiny. If they want to qualify, they will need to win their next two matches with huge margins and then Ireland will need to beat the USA considering India wins their match against the USA which seems to be the case since they are a pretty strong side.
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June 10, 2024, 03:02:18 PM |
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Pakistan continues disappointing their fans and India's dominance over them in World Cups keeps rising. All credit goes to the Indian bowlers like Boom Boom Bumrah and Siraj who were phenomenal. Also, Bangladesh have shifted gears really nicely and are screwing South Africa currently. Major disappointment from the Pakistan Cricket Team for their fans and followers, no one, even not the fans of the opponent team, was expecting them to lose such an easy game.
Incorrect! Myself and @JSRAW were literally discussing about them collapsing before they actually collapsed in the match.
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June 10, 2024, 03:31:54 PM |
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^ lol, it's almost like Pakistan just don't want to win against India. Pakistan loses the match handed to them on a silver platter, Jesus. Everyone is busy praising Bumrah, but it was solely Pakistan who choked here, there is little credit goes to the Indian bowlers.
There is nothing in this match and this World Cup for the Pakistan team to cheer about, except this time they were able to take the wicket of Virat Kohli in the game's early stages. Right at the start of the game, the one and only Virat Kohli lost his wicket and that wicket was such a massive wicket for Pakistan and India for both teams. He was out by Naseem Shah and Naseem Shah gave the ball on inside in then Virat Kohli tried to do place the ball but there was a swing in the ball and slowly goes to off side which resulted in edge touched, the ball went directly to the fielder and Usman Khan caught it easily. By the way, that was a very big catch and difficult too because the speed was too fast but Usman Khan made a good effort. That was the time when both Rohit Sharma and Viral Kohli were out early and Pakistan were cheering. After that, we gave the match away to the Indian team. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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June 10, 2024, 03:53:37 PM |
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Pakistan continues disappointing their fans and India's dominance over them in World Cups keeps rising. All credit goes to the Indian bowlers like Boom Boom Bumrah and Siraj who were phenomenal.
Also, Bangladesh have shifted gears really nicely and are screwing South Africa currently.
Pakistan's episode is really sad because Pakistani fans don't know any language to control their anger at the moment as two matches have been lost very undeservedly. The first match was a Super Over loss, the second match was a near-win match against India. All these sad phenomena are very painful for Pakistani fans to accept. However, Bangladesh have been able to put pressure on South Africa's batsmen at the moment and it is very likely that South Africa's run score will not go above 140 runs. At this moment, South Africa's total of 100 runs has been completed at the end of 17 overs. There will be a chance to bat for 3 more overs, but if Bangladesh can bowl controlled balls in three overs, then there is a high possibility that the score will not go above 140 runs.
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June 10, 2024, 04:27:15 PM |
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Same ground and almost the same script for the first inning. This New York pitch keeps giving a reality check to every T-20 merchant.
Proteas need to repeat similar bowling efforts as the Indians but also hope that Bangbros do the Pakistani stuff and crack under pressure.
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June 10, 2024, 06:20:03 PM |
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Proteas need to repeat similar bowling efforts as the Indians but also hope that Bangbros do the Pakistani stuff and crack under pressure.
That is exactly what happened and something that I was expecting too. It was hilarious listening to Nasser Hussain stating that 140 is a par score here when I was confident that 110 is par. Maharaj tried his best to help Bangladesh win at the end through 3 full tosses, but they tossed away the gifts. Lucky South Africa. Wonder if they will get this lucky against tougher competition later on.
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June 10, 2024, 07:04:07 PM |
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Proteas need to repeat similar bowling efforts as the Indians but also hope that Bangbros do the Pakistani stuff and crack under pressure.
That is exactly what happened and something that I was expecting too. It was hilarious listening to Nasser Hussain stating that 140 is a par score here when I was confident that 110 is par. Maharaj tried his best to help Bangladesh win at the end through 3 full tosses, but they tossed away the gifts. Lucky South Africa. Wonder if they will get this lucky against tougher competition later on. To be fair to Bangladesh, umpires did dirty to them by calling LBW at the wrong time, to the naked eye it looked like it was sliding down the leg and missing the stump completely (DRS confirmed it). The ball went to the boundary line but the umpire gave an out signal so the ball became dead and Bangladesh missed 4 crucial leg byes runs. But yeah, Maharaj did bowl some full tosses in the last over and one of the ball should have cleared the boundary but Mahmudullah missed it. This one ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F10%2FcYrPg.jpeg&t=663&c=1qccaY954c6Bvw)
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June 11, 2024, 02:49:08 PM |
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Pakistan vs Canada ongoing! Canada started pretty well, but I still feel Pakistan will defeat them easily though the margin might not be huge. They are still alive in this tournament barely and am not expecting them to advance to the super 8.
Johnson seems to be carrying Canada yet again. Wonder if this match will end up becoming another close thriller or a one sided one.
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June 11, 2024, 03:32:14 PM |
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Pakistan vs Canada ongoing! Canada started pretty well, but I still feel Pakistan will defeat them easily though the margin might not be huge. They are still alive in this tournament barely and am not expecting them to advance to the super 8.
Johnson seems to be carrying Canada yet again. Wonder if this match will end up becoming another close thriller or a one sided one.
One way traffic so far and Canada's batters are not in the mood of troubling scorers, except Aaron Johnson. Johnson is the key for them, the longer he stays, the better. They might end up with a competitive target, let's say 110-120, otherwise the match is gone.
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June 11, 2024, 04:51:35 PM |
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Pakistan vs Canada ongoing! Canada started pretty well, but I still feel Pakistan will defeat them easily though the margin might not be huge. They are still alive in this tournament barely and am not expecting them to advance to the super 8.
Johnson seems to be carrying Canada yet again. Wonder if this match will end up becoming another close thriller or a one sided one.
Canada has had a good start but later on they will perform badly. Their batsmen have score only 106 runs in 20 overs. And this is a much easier target for Pakistan. But according to my estimation Pakistan will not be able to fulfill this target. Although the target is easy but the Canada bowlers do not know anything and put pressure on them. Because Pakistan perform is poor and so far they have score only 21 runs and lost a wicket. Pakistan will be out of this World Cup I guess but what is the result no one knows. Pakistan need 86 runs off 93 balls to win this match.
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June 11, 2024, 05:11:19 PM |
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One way traffic so far and Canada's batters are not in the mood of troubling scorers, except Aaron Johnson.
Johnson is the key for them, the longer he stays, the better. They might end up with a competitive target, let's say 110-120, otherwise the match is gone.
Pakistan will 100% win this match now, but they will probably not be able to finish it within 15 overs which would have improved their NRR nicely. Canada is bowling decently while Azam and Rizwan are doing their thing as usual. Goodbye Pakistan(Most probably). Also, 3 matches tomorrow and India vs USA is the big one. Excited!
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June 11, 2024, 06:11:55 PM |
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Since Pakistan had pretty low chance to progress further in tournament, I was expecting them to go guns blazing but they still played rather conservatively.
Now Imagine if India deliberately loses (tactical loss) against USA tomorrow, that would be comedy, or at at least not thrash them.
That aside, I sincerely would like Pakistan in super eight for entertainment purposes.
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June 11, 2024, 07:54:22 PM |
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Since Pakistan had pretty low chance to progress further in tournament, I was expecting them to go guns blazing but they still played rather conservatively.
Now Imagine if India deliberately loses (tactical loss) against USA tomorrow, that would be comedy, or at at least not thrash them.
That aside, I sincerely would like Pakistan in super eight for entertainment purposes.
If the USA manages to lose the remaining 2 matches against India + Ireland and Pakistan wins against Ireland then Pakistan will qualify because those wins will improve their NRR. Similarly, USA NRR will take a hit as there is no big gap in their NRR. Comedy, yes but India should focus on its qualifications and WC trophy, nothing else.
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June 11, 2024, 09:08:07 PM |
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Since Pakistan had pretty low chance to progress further in tournament, I was expecting them to go guns blazing but they still played rather conservatively.
I had the same thought as well even before the game started, I thought their strategy would be to play a bit aggressively in batting because the target wasn't that high, they could attack the bowlers in the powerplay by sending power hitters such as Fakhar Zaman and Saim Ayyub to open the innings, if they could get a good start, they could even finish the game within 12 overs, but it seemed they had different plans, I'm not sure what they were thinking by playing so defensively after losing 2 matches and only having a chance to qualify for Super 8 by having a strong NRR. Now Imagine if India deliberately loses (tactical loss) against USA tomorrow, that would be comedy, or at at least not thrash them.
Well, I thought about this too, the rivalry between the two nations is undeniable, besides, despite the USA beating Pakistan in their Group Stage game, if Pakistan gets into Super 8, they would be a stronger side to defeat because they are unpredictable at times and can outperform any team sometimes, remember the game in the World Cup against New Zealand? That aside, I sincerely would like Pakistan in super eight for entertainment purposes.
Me too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 11, 2024, 11:06:43 PM |
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Since Pakistan had pretty low chance to progress further in tournament, I was expecting them to go guns blazing but they still played rather conservatively.
Both Ireland and Canada have no chance of qualifying for the Super Eight but between Pakistan and USA, the main competition will be which team will qualify. Pakistan has to win against Ireland and to win it must win by a huge margin which is very difficult for Pakistan. On the other hand, USA will have to lose along with India and Ireland and Pakistan will have a chance if they lose by a huge margin. But with USA far ahead in net run rate, every factor will be very difficult for Pakistan.
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June 12, 2024, 01:28:21 AM |
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If the USA manages to lose the remaining 2 matches against India + Ireland and Pakistan wins against Ireland then Pakistan will qualify because those wins will improve their NRR. Similarly, USA NRR will take a hit as there is no big gap in their NRR.
Comedy, yes but India should focus on its qualifications and WC trophy, nothing else.
I hope India will focus on remaining unbeaten in the group stages and may not create drama to lose to the USA for other purposes. Usually, if teams decide to underperform purposefully, it always hurts them in the later part of the tournament. There is no comparsion between the India and USA team and India should win by a big margin againist them. Since Pakistan had pretty low chance to progress further in tournament, I was expecting them to go guns blazing but they still played rather conservatively.
Both Ireland and Canada have no chance of qualifying for the Super Eight but between Pakistan and USA, the main competition will be which team will qualify. Pakistan has to win against Ireland and to win it must win by a huge margin which is very difficult for Pakistan. On the other hand, USA will have to lose along with India and Ireland and Pakistan will have a chance if they lose by a huge margin. But with USA far ahead in net run rate, every factor will be very difficult for Pakistan. The Pakistan team can still qualify for the Super 8s of this World Cup and it is easy because seeing the history, the Pakistan team is always dependent on the other teams' results and if you say for example then the biggest example is the 2022 World Cup when the Pakistan team went into the semi-final to the behalf of Netherlands team. So this time too, the Pakistan team can be able to qualify for the Super 8s if the Indian team wins their all matches and the USA will lose their all matches and the Pakistan team wins their all matches then for sure nobody can stop Pakistan from going into the Super 8s.
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June 12, 2024, 03:33:34 AM |
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Since Pakistan had pretty low chance to progress further in tournament, I was expecting them to go guns blazing but they still played rather conservatively.
Both Ireland and Canada have no chance of qualifying for the Super Eight but between Pakistan and USA, the main competition will be which team will qualify. Pakistan has to win against Ireland and to win it must win by a huge margin which is very difficult for Pakistan. On the other hand, USA will have to lose along with India and Ireland and Pakistan will have a chance if they lose by a huge margin. But with USA far ahead in net run rate, every factor will be very difficult for Pakistan. Currently, the Pakistan team is in such a situation that their reach to the Super Eight is ticking like clockwork. The bad situation of Pakistan team was created mainly when they lost the first match against USA. Then again they lost to India in their second match as well which became a bigger hurdle for them to reach the Super Eight. In the group in which Pakistan was placed, all the teams except India were weak, but unfortunately Pakistan lost first. Pakistan team has to face many equations to advance to the next round if none of all the equations then Pakistan's road to the next round will be blocked. But before the World Cup, Pakistan hosted a T20I series against Ireland where they won and if they can keep up their performance and beat Ireland by a big margin, there might be a chance for Pakistan.
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June 12, 2024, 04:11:00 AM |
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If the USA manages to lose the remaining 2 matches against India + Ireland and Pakistan wins against Ireland then Pakistan will qualify because those wins will improve their NRR. Similarly, USA NRR will take a hit as there is no big gap in their NRR.
Results aside, Pakistan vs Ireland and USA vs Ireland both will be played in Florida where rain is expected, so possible washout and Pakistan is done and dusted. I hope India will focus on remaining unbeaten in the group stages and may not create drama to lose to the USA for other purposes. Usually, if teams decide to underperform purposefully, it always hurts them in the later part of the tournament. There is no comparsion between the India and USA team and India should win by a big margin againist them. True, it may hurt team's confidence despite losing on purpose. The Pakistan team can still qualify for the Super 8s of this World Cup and it is easy because seeing the history, the Pakistan team is always dependent on the other teams' results and if you say for example then the biggest example is the 2022 World Cup when the Pakistan team went into the semi-final to the behalf of Netherlands team. Kudrat ka nizam ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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