Pokerplayer lost $500k as he folds while having straight?

[cabron]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

[SamReomo]

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

I would never do that if I were on his place. What a stupid move he has taken, he could easily win that money without any problem but he Steve got him with his bluffing skills. In poker if you don't understand your opponent's bluffing style then you'll most probably end up losing money.

Thomas got a fixed straight but he missed it because Steve's bluffing style got him and might got scared by thinking that what if Steve holds Queen and King card. In any gambling one should understand that strategy won't work without luck, in this case Thomas was lucky but his strategy was wrong and that's why he lost the hand.

[shasan]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

It is very bad luck for that person and I don't know what the person did is it from winnings or from the initial invest or it was his/her life risky bet and committed suicide after the loss on the bet. I will not be surprised if the person committed suicide.

[Assface16678]

Well, that's how games work, I mean gambling. Imagine the pressure that the player is feeling because of the huge pot. I'm sure in his mind the anxiety got into his head. That's why he folded and decided not to fight the opponent. It's common or understandable, but yeah, if I were that gambler, I would really upset and regret my decision. But again, what happens is what it is; it cannot be reversed. The only thing you could do is let go of it because if you let that get to your head, you will never be able to focus on the next matches again, or it will hunt you even in your future matches, so it's better to move on and reflect on what just happens. That is the nature of gambling: you lose some and you win, but don't expect that you will frequently win because, for me, gambling is more about losing money, so just enjoy it; that's the best you could do for yourself.

[Casdinyard]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

Poker is a game of bluffing just as much as its a game of cards, the thing is sometimes I get reverse psychology'd by shit like this, like if a player shows dismay in a card he has pulled, Steve is either a brilliant genius for this or the biggest clown and stupid on the planet, but whatever gesture he made in front of Thomas made the guy think twice lol. He for sure believed that Steve's got a shitty pile, but then got cognitive dissonance'd by his own brain thinking that this guy's a top tier player he's pitted against, he wouldn't just make mistakes like that.

He probably thought and based on the situation as well that the best course of action is  to fold, he will not get the bag, but he's still going to stay in the game, hence the lack of hesitation.

[Poker Player]

Well, they put it as misread of the century but I wouldn't say so much. On the table there could be a top straight and a flush that is completed at the same time as the straight. Depending on the read you have on the other players, if they are conservative players who only go with good cards you can fear there might be a better hand.

Although seen from the outside and as played it is a clear call.

[Beparanf]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

There’s a potential of Flush since there’s 3 cloves in the table while the opponent just made a 130K which shows that his hand has strength.

But I don’t get it too why does he fold he can just call since he has a huge stack on his hand. Maybe he is playing safe but that straight can easily bust by flush if you don’t know the opponent hand. It’s easy to that his fold is absurd but he lose big time if ever the opponent has flush.

[o48o]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

I don't know what kind of pressure people are under on those kinds of hands, but i have more then once lost with a straight to a flush, so i am guessing Thomas thought that Steve had a flush. I mean what other good cards he would have unless he is bluffing.

Or Steve might had broken out of a betting pattern while riding high with his KK start and that got Thomas thrown off. Or if Thomas had bluffed in the past and idea of that got Steve to keep on going.

Reading people's hands on how they bet is really hard, especially under pressure. Even though that didn't pan out to anything, sometimes it's just better not to risk it, even though straight is a pretty decent hand. This time it was a miss, but that's easy to say with hindsight.

[Frankolala]

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

I would never do that if I were on his place. What a stupid move he has taken, he could easily win that money without any problem but he Steve got him with his bluffing skills. In poker if you don't understand your opponent's bluffing style then you'll most probably end up losing money.

Thomas got a fixed straight but he missed it because Steve's bluffing style got him and might got scared by thinking that what if Steve holds Queen and King card. In any gambling one should understand that strategy won't work without luck, in this case Thomas was lucky but his strategy was wrong and that's why he lost the hand.

Yea, Thomas was lucky but didn't take advantage of his luck because he lacks the confidence on his picks which made him to fold instead of chilling and see what Steve gat with him.

Wrong decision at the wrong time kills luck and causes great loss just like what happened to Steve. This is why when gambling, you don't just assume that you have lost the game but be very sure to see that you have lost it by seeing the end of the game. I would angry at myself, if I was Thomas after my lost.

[Eternad]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

I don't know what kind of pressure people are under on those kinds of hands, but i have more then once lost with a straight to a flush, so i am guessing Thomas thought that Steve had a flush. I mean what other good cards he would have unless he is bluffing.

Or Steve might had broken out of a betting pattern while riding high with his KK start and that got Thomas thrown off. Or if Thomas had bluffed in the past and idea of that got Steve to keep on going.

Reading people's hands on how they bet is really hard, especially under pressure. Even though that didn't pan out to anything, sometimes it's just better not to risk it, even though straight is a pretty decent hand. This time it was a miss, but that's easy to say with hindsight.

I believe the size of the bet made on that last chance makes him cold feet since he is not holding the strongest hand while there’s a lot of possibility that Steve has higher cards than like what you mention.

But I don understand the misread part since there’s an early aggression from Steve which means he either have a Pair or High Card Suited Straight but most of the High pair on do an aggressive bets so Thomas should have an idea that the opponent has less chance on forming a better car than straight with all the five cards in the table

It pure fear pressure imho that’s why he fold easily.

[cabron]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

I don't know what kind of pressure people are under on those kinds of hands, but i have more then once lost with a straight to a flush, so i am guessing Thomas thought that Steve had a flush. I mean what other good cards he would have unless he is bluffing.

Or Steve might had broken out of a betting pattern while riding high with his KK start and that got Thomas thrown off. Or if Thomas had bluffed in the past and idea of that got Steve to keep on going.

Reading people's hands on how they bet is really hard, especially under pressure. Even though that didn't pan out to anything, sometimes it's just better not to risk it, even though straight is a pretty decent hand. This time it was a miss, but that's easy to say with hindsight.

I believe the size of the bet made on that last chance makes him cold feet since he is not holding the strongest hand while there’s a lot of possibility that Steve has higher cards than like what you mention.

But I don understand the misread part since there’s an early aggression from Steve which means he either have a Pair or High Card Suited Straight but most of the High pair on do an aggressive bets so Thomas should have an idea that the opponent has less chance on forming a better car than straight with all the five cards in the table

It pure fear pressure imho that’s why he fold easily.

What I can see is that Tom folded right there and then the moment Steve called. He didn't even look at his cards again even when there were new cards on the table.
9,10 and JACK. The guy must have misread his cards or just completely not paying attention to what was on the table.

If it were me, I would once again check my cards.  A straight like that could win you millions, I wouldn't even expect anyone to have straight too or flush. Once I have a good card, I wouldn't expect one or two to have the same.

[bitbollo]

It's hard to understand a poker game from TV. Remember: you're watching ALL cards sit on your couch without risking anything.
no pressure, no stress, no fatigue at all, just sit and ejoy the show...
Of course some times there are gameplays really strange to understand but probably we can't ever know the real reason if not shared by player involved.
Please note that QK in this case could create a disaster... and it's not an uncommon card combination...

[Findingnemo]

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

It's a bit over conservative approach but as mentioned he could be heated by a full house, or a higher straight 7,8,9,10, J,Q, K by the opponent so he chooses to fold, the pot amount can be the deciding factor and you also have to take some risks even though you have bad cards because remember you don't have to win, all you have to pretend that the opponent will lose against your card.

[GxSTxV]

Playing too much poker at the same table would make you learn the players reaction and faces, it will get hard for you when you keep losing, disappointed sometimes when you think you got the best hand, just to find out you lost against a better hand. Thomas in this case, didn't fold for nothing or as a dumb player, he got stressed or had a feeling that his opponent has a better hand, many scenarios and possibilities the opponent has a better hand, close that if the opponent just get a K,Q to win against him, without talking about the close possibility of having a flash which is stronger than a flush.

You can't judge someone to fold, however, it feels so bad when you start raising then you fold after that.

[noormcs5]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

First of all, it is all about luck and there is no reason to regret if he folds early because he never knew which card did other person has.
Secondly, professional poker players would not let you guess through thier facial expressions. Whether they are losing or have a very bad combination of cards, they would not make expressions to let the other know that they are in trouble.

Sometimes they may give wrong face impression to confuse the other players like pretend to be happy or sad. This psychological aspect of the game adds layer of complexity, where players not only need to manage their own emotions but also read and potentially manipulate the emotions of others.
I would suggest to focus on your own cards and do not give much importance to the body language of the opponent when you are in a Poker match.

[STT]

Wearing a giant mask, I would suspect a weak player if he is playing like that.   I dont quite follow why a player would fold without full consideration, I consider a straight rare to acquire but he gave alot of weight to the 3 clubs.  Also its dull to ignore that other people can have a better straight, Ive had that quite a bit.


  He guessed wrong, if it showed with 4 clubs I assume I lose as its a fine line its hard to criticise imo.
Its impossible to say because he could just be tired or just had full confidence a flush was in play.  He was intimated by the guy with 2 kings, giving too much respect.

  I dont know the full context and I only looked at the clip quickly but people can make mistakes of course.  Usually we expect people to be too confident not scared to play a strong hand hence why I presume he is tired and worn down by the tournament duration hours etc.

To know the full answer you'd have to watch the whole game.  People get scared just because you had 2 aces once so you can definitely play off the over apprehension.

[348Judah]

I don't know maybe he should be assumed as a newbie for playing his card that way or maybe he just do that without knowing what could be the aftermath of his action, in gambling, everyone will be surfing on the opportunity he could be placed with as against his opponent, this is gambling, every of our moves should be taken with care and we must be deliberate about them in other for our opponent not to use any as against us, this was his mistake and i hope he will learn against the next time.

[Porfirii]

There is some sort of trend about loosing half a million in gambling in the last days in this section

Answering your question, I'm not personally good at poker, so NO, I don't think I would be able to read the faces of other players to the extent of knowing if they have good or bad cards, and again, NO, I would 't fold either, but I understand that this is how professional players make a living. Sometimes they lose, sometimes they win.

[wheelz1200]

https://youtu.be/G45qIVcmeIs?t=91

Poker player Thomas got 8 and 7 while revealed cards have 9, 10, and a Jack. He just folds like that without hesitation on the $543K pot. Steve clearly doesn't have a good card because he even raised his hand in dismay, would you notice the faces and the actions of the poker players reflecting the cards they hold?

If you are Thomas and have just added more money to the pot, would you fold?  We can't see his face though but I can just imagine how disappointing it would be to learn Steve just have KK

The even more perplexing bet is the $1k bet with k/k on the turn.  It literally was the worst play he could have made.  With straight draw and flush draws out there and players just calling the turn ypu have to put at least one of them on a draw.  K/k should have pushed hard on the turn to push the gamblers out.  He got lucky.

[SamReomo]

Yea, Thomas was lucky but didn't take advantage of his luck because he lacks the confidence on his picks which made him to fold instead of chilling and see what Steve gat with him.

In Poker a weak hand never wins even with a very good luck and that was the case of Thomas. Although, he had luck in his favor at that table but due to his weak hands he folded and lost the hand. I believe we as poker players can learn from that person's stupid move.