Unreasonable Withdrawal Limits on Betiro

[mak013]

There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion.

actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all in
which OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP ..
because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like
this is a shill thread to advertise that site now.

I don`t see that the OP has problems with KYC. He has problems with withdrawal limits. The same time i`m sure that we can find in ToS something like "the casino can KYC gambler any time they wants" - we see such words in any casino with KYC, i even don`t want to waste time searching for it and visiting its site.

[ultrloa]

There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion.

actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all in
which OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP ..
because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like
this is a shill thread to advertise that site now.

I don`t see that the OP has problems with KYC. He has problems with withdrawal limits. The same time i`m sure that we can find in ToS something like "the casino can KYC gambler any time they wants" - we see such words in any casino with KYC, i even don`t want to waste time searching for it and visiting its site.

Yes exactly he never mentioned any problem related to KYC but rather the withdrawal limits and delay for processing the payments. This actions is commonly done by a scam casino and I encounter this one before on random casino.

I try to complete all requirement what they ask but delays keep coming since its like fulfilling what they ask will never ends. So in case of OP I guess this is another series of delaying tactics made by a casino and it seems that there's no chance for him to get his money out of this casino. Biggest reason why I'm skeptical to gamble on a casino doesn't have any feedback from the community since we don't know if we are safe from them or same with OP we will just compromise or worst we get scam.

[kotajikikox]

All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino.

yeah that is not bad after all because there are many cases here that the gambling site has been scamming players and giving nothing to withdraw  but here there are at least 500$ a day in which for me thi is not bad afterall.

And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice.

But I think they trapped the player about the rules of withdrawal or at least edited the rules after winning by OP .

[Beparanf]

All I can say is that at least I can say that any player who can withdraw money within 1 month has at least 500$ with a total of 15000$, which is not bad for me to be honest, rather than the other or just suddenly block your account from a casino.

yeah that is not bad after all because there are many cases here that the gambling site has been scamming players and giving nothing to withdraw  but here there are at least 500$ a day in which for me thi is not bad afterall.

It’s really good than completely scam but there’s no guarantee either that he will continuously withdraw 500$ regularly since casino like this with small limit usually not fair on this matter. There’s a chance that he might receive less in the proce but yeah this much better since he has no other option.

And just like what others mentioned here, it is still really important that we read the TOS that a casino has in this field of crypto space. So, just wait for the OP or just follow the rules that the casino has; it's that simple and should be understood, and besides, he also has no choice.

But I think they trapped the player about the rules of withdrawal or at least edited the rules after winning by OP .

You’re right because they should just follow the written limit before they edit it to the correct one if their intention is not to trap users.

[Mrbluntzy]

I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy.

@papokala, If you want Betiro to change their withdrawal rules, then write to them through their official email giving them the reason why they need to adjust their rule. Every company has their policy and the only thing that can make them change it is if the complaint of customer is much and convincing. Since on the first of June up till today, I guess you have successful withdrawn all your funds from that casino? If you have, choose a reputable casino on this forum such as Bitvest.io or Stake.com

[Hamphser]

I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy.

@papokala, If you want Betiro to change their withdrawal rules, then write to them through their official email giving them the reason why they need to adjust their rule. Every company has their policy and the only thing that can make them change it is if the complaint of customer is much and convincing. Since on the first of June up till today, I guess you have successful withdrawn all your funds from that casino? If you have, choose a reputable casino on this forum such as Bitvest.io or Stake.com

Changin up their rules just because you had made out that such request? Good if they would be listening out but most of the time they would really be sticking into those rules that they had set.
Yes, it would really be that might different into those typical platforms that we do have today but for sure they would really be sticking out with that kind of withdrawal methods.
It might not that look appealing but just let them be. Sooner or later at the moment that they wont really be changing up those things and the at the moment that they've seen that
they arent that getting that much attention or recognition just because of this kind of set up then they might really be able to reconsider it out but well its already bit late..

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I respectfully request that Betiro review and adjust these withdrawal limits to facilitate a more reasonable and fair withdrawal process for their users. Such a review is necessary to ensure that the platform remains user-friendly and trustworthy.

@papokala, If you want Betiro to change their withdrawal rules, then write to them through their official email giving them the reason why they need to adjust their rule. Every company has their policy and the only thing that can make them change it is if the complaint of customer is much and convincing. Since on the first of June up till today, I guess you have successful withdrawn all your funds from that casino? If you have, choose a reputable casino on this forum such as Bitvest.io or Stake.com

Changin up their rules just because you had made out that such request? Good if they would be listening out but most of the time they would really be sticking into those rules that they had set.

You are right, mate. A casino cannot just change its rules because one or two customers requested for it. The only reason I think a casino can eagerly change its rules is when they see that such rules are too strict and it's causing them to lose customers or not stand a chance to maintain customer loyalty. 

[Potato Chips]

And we're down to 13 hours left until op's complaint on casino guru gets processed. So far, there's still no reply from betiro, see: https://casinoguru-en.com/betiro-casino-player-claims-that-payment-has-been

On another note, I think op should have reiterated more their last minute change of tos which btw is pretty unprofessional gesture from betiro IMO 🤔

I hope this case gets solved though.

[mak013]

I don`t see that the OP has problems with KYC. He has problems with withdrawal limits. The same time i`m sure that we can find in ToS something like "the casino can KYC gambler any time they wants" - we see such words in any casino with KYC, i even don`t want to waste time searching for it and visiting its site.

Yes exactly he never mentioned any problem related to KYC but rather the withdrawal limits and delay for processing the payments. This actions is commonly done by a scam casino and I encounter this one before on random casino.

I try to complete all requirement what they ask but delays keep coming since its like fulfilling what they ask will never ends. So in case of OP I guess this is another series of delaying tactics made by a casino and it seems that there's no chance for him to get his money out of this casino. Biggest reason why I'm skeptical to gamble on a casino doesn't have any feedback from the community since we don't know if we are safe from them or same with OP we will just compromise or worst we get scam.

I was once in such situation. But it was after decreasing bet limit. I got limit $20 per day and i needed to withdraw about $800. And bet limit was $5 if i remember right. But as the result i`ve got all my money. So it is possible that it isn`t scam casino, but surely it is unfair to the gambler.
The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS.

[bitterguy28]

There's something I want to know from this your complaint to this platform, is it that the platform require a kyc verification before their participant can be able to make a withdrawal of any amount they needed because I believe that it is a verification that will determine or will it cost a restriction of total amount someone can withdraw at any any given point of time so if that is the case we should try to make sure that you have all your kyc with them to know if they limitation of withdrawal they give to you will persist, I know very well that a platform that can act in such way maybe they don't have for license to operate and they have the mindset of withholding people's funds that is my own suggestion.

actually you can check that in their T&C mate because it is written there if KYC is required or not but assuming it is yet that is not the problem after all in
which OP feels being tricked by this gambling site and we are waiting to what is the update of OP ..
because its been sometime now that he is not posting here for me this kind of attitude though this is a negative effect to that site? yet I felt like
this is a shill thread to advertise that site now.

I don`t see that the OP has problems with KYC. He has problems with withdrawal limits. The same time i`m sure that we can find in ToS something like "the casino can KYC gambler any time they wants" - we see such words in any casino with KYC, i even don`t want to waste time searching for it and visiting its site.

yups OP has no problem about KYC though I addressed that from the last i quoted because it is indeed that OP has withdrawal issue and yes with that tricky limit daily allowed that I also knew it is rarely to experience this  rules changing and the sad part is after winning big.

[erep]

The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS.

The paragraph points that explain the authority of the casino which can change any rules but setting withdrawal limits can make users uncomfortable, they will speculate negatively on the rules because the casino never explains the details in the ToS. I think casinos should publish the rules clearly so they know what the limits are for withdrawals and they can update the system to be able to increase account levels for high withdrawal limits.

[rodskee]

And we're down to 13 hours left until op's complaint on casino guru gets processed. So far, there's still no reply from betiro, see: https://casinoguru-en.com/betiro-casino-player-claims-that-payment-has-been

On another note, I think op should have reiterated more their last minute change of tos which btw is pretty unprofessional gesture from betiro IMO 🤔

I hope this case gets solved though.

almost couple of hours remaining but OP looks like not interested in dealing with this forum again
as he is not willing to post nor update us what is going on and about that Casino guru decisions hope
that this site will ever comply because it seems that they did not give further answers for OP's claim here.

The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS.

The paragraph points that explain the authority of the casino which can change any rules but setting withdrawal limits can make users uncomfortable, they will speculate negatively on the rules because the casino never explains the details in the ToS. I think casinos should publish the rules clearly so they know what the limits are for withdrawals and they can update the system to be able to increase account levels for high withdrawal limits.

of course they can change the rules anytime because its their Terms and their rights but changing
this when someone win big? reducing the capability to withdraw the funds makes them cheater or at least
something that Bitcointalk users should avoid dealing.

[Betwrong]

The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports.

I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports.

I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another?

Well, on the other hand though, as much as I personally agree that it's more important for users of this forum to advocate for the casinos, and other service present on this forum, one truth and fact we all must face and agree to is that, there are also several crypto casinos out there that are not on this forum, and they have been operating for several years, and are reputable and well trusted, and maybe their reason for not being on this forum might be because they possibly don't know that a forum like this does exists, and you will agree with me that this forum have never done any type of marketing to introduce the forum to the current new age crypto users.

So, there is really no reason to blame op, since any body outside of this forum can make the same mistake, what I did say is, since he is already, here, hope he start playing on only casinos from this forum, that have been tested and trusted.

[EarnOnVictor]

The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports.

I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another?

Lol...Casinos having a presence in the forum is not a requisite for good service, and limit issues like this are scarce. This is true for not seeing such as a regular complaint on the forum but everywhere I also read of casino issues. The main ones are the KYC verification issues, reduced wagering limit and withdrawal denial, many of which are worse than the limit issues here, and the casinos advertising here are not exceptions to these complaints.

All I can advise is that we should look for reputable casinos to avoid all that. The best way to do this is to look for well-liquid casinos like Stake.com with track records. By this, you can't be racking your head to gamble and still racking the same head on the withdrawal limit, which is absurd.

[Cantsay]

Lol...Casinos having a presence in the forum is not a requisite for good service, and limit issues like this are scarce. This is true for not seeing such as a regular complaint on the forum but everywhere I also read of casino issues. The main ones are the KYC verification issues, reduced wagering limit and withdrawal denial, many of which are worse than the limit issues here, and the casinos advertising here are not exceptions to these complaints.

All I can advise is that we should look for reputable casinos to avoid all that. The best way to do this is to look for well-liquid casinos like Stake.com with track records. By this, you can't be racking your head to gamble and still racking the same head on the withdrawal limit, which is absurd.

It’s true that a casino having an Ann here does not automatically make them reputable but still, if one wishes to use a casino they can simply go through their Ann thread and see what other forum members who have used them before have said concerning them, and that’s the main reason most people always point out if a casino has a presence here or not - it only serves as a means of getting a better view of what to expect if they should start using it.

[mak013]

The problem is that in any casino there are some paragraphs which allows casino to do anything they want: You won big odd? We decide that it is fixed match. You win too much? We decided decrease you bet limit. Etc. And they don`t need to proof anything - they just say - it is in the ToS.

The paragraph points that explain the authority of the casino which can change any rules but setting withdrawal limits can make users uncomfortable, they will speculate negatively on the rules because the casino never explains the details in the ToS. I think casinos should publish the rules clearly so they know what the limits are for withdrawals and they can update the system to be able to increase account levels for high withdrawal limits.

It doesn`t matter what they do, decrease bet limit, ban account or setting withdrawal limit. They can do it using the ToS and you can only try to choose casino without such paragraphs, but it mostly mean, that you don`t find it. And when they need - they show it to you.
I think that it is possible to find casino without such paragraphs, but it is really hard and casino willn`t be well-known.

[Potato Chips]

almost couple of hours remaining but OP looks like not interested in dealing with this forum again
as he is not willing to post nor update us what is going on and about that Casino guru decisions hope
that this site will ever comply because it seems that they did not give further answers for OP's claim here.

I just checked up on op's casino guru complaint page and they have been asked for an update as well -- to be more precise, whether they have withdrawn their money or not.

I still think the amount at stake is at least relatively big amount for op hence I remain to lean towards they might come back soon for an update. Maybe, not here anymore but on casino guru at least? 🤔

[HONDACD125]

It doesn`t matter what they do, decrease bet limit, ban account or setting withdrawal limit. They can do it using the ToS and you can only try to choose casino without such paragraphs, but it mostly mean, that you don`t find it. And when they need - they show it to you.
I think that it is possible to find casino without such paragraphs, but it is really hard and casino willn`t be well-known.

Actually, it does matter what they do. A gambler should indeed read the terms and conditions of a casino before joining so that everything is clear from the beginning, however, if a casino changes things later on and doesn't even inform the gamblers about it, I would consider that a red flag.

There wouldn't be a problem if they had the rule from the beginning, and if they were to make changes, they should have announced it and informed all the players by showing a popup when they sign up, informing them about the changes just like how Stake and other reputable platforms do it.

I would blame the gambler if they hadn't read the rules and then faced some problem, but if the rules have been changed, the gambler isn't wrong.

[bitterguy28]

The gambling site do not have an announcement thread on this forum. You posted this on the gambling board, go there again and see reputed gambling sites with their announcement threads. Use any of the reputed gambling site like Stake. Stake has both casinos and sports.

I agree with that. If a crypto gambling site isn't presented on this forum, it looks suspicious to me right away. I'm not surprised that OP is having problems with his withdrawals. That was kinda expected, right? There are so many reputable crypto gambling sites presented on this forum that I'm not even registered on all of them. Why look for another?

Buit OP is also  a newbie and looks like he just found this forum trying to look for answer and support like what we have seen many in the past that newbie becomes a victim of casino either scam or abusive and when they are asked why chooses those not familiar casinos from legit casino in this forum , all they answered are almost the same and that is they know nothing about bitcointalk not after being scammed or abuse then they see in search engine this forum.