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June 02, 2024, 11:24:48 PM
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability











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June 03, 2024, 12:12:12 AM
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Gambling for fun and entertainment and not for money making is a warning from experienced gamblers that if someone is gambling and looking for money through it, that the person have high probability to lose huge amount of money. It is a warning that you should not use more than the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble. Do not think it is a straightforward sentence, it is more like an idiom.

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June 03, 2024, 12:13:27 AM
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With how casinos have been stepping up their security checks, i'd pass up on the opportunity to cheat because you still have to go through the withdrawal process which can take forever. It's only a matter of time until they find these suspicious activities on your account and reject your withdrawal requests. As one of the gamblers who play for fun, i'm not that desperate to win and it's not always worth losing an account's progress now that most casinos offer different kinds of reward programs.

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June 03, 2024, 12:51:28 AM
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To be honest, I am not even sure this is a topic which belongs exclusively to the gambling section of the forum, because the moral implications of someone cheating to get money, aka "theft".
I am the kind of gambler which I believe it would be ideal for all of people within this ecosystem to see gambling as a way to get thrill and entertainment, though not all people will resist the temptation. There is a good reason there are so many people out there on the internet seeking to spot fixed matches, after all.

I believe I would resist the temptation, because I would remind myself that most casinos have KYC protocols, which would imply I would get black listed from all the other casinos which also have that system, depending the amount I could even be prosecuted as a criminal and sought after by Interpol. It is better to think on the consequences before doing anything stupid, like stealing.

This thread, as a said, falls more into a philosophical debate on theft and the implications of it.

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June 03, 2024, 01:24:39 AM
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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

You can cheat people but never on a gambling platform they have a very sophisticated tool to check if you've been cheating and you are playing fair, this is a profit-driven platform a platform that is susceptible and very tempting for users to cheat so you can get away once but once you experience or tasted you will try to look for another opportunity and that's where you will get caught.

We've seen so many responses coming from casino operators who caught their players cheating in the past and they always take action on it even if that cheating happens a few months, so you can try but your success to come out clean is vague.


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June 03, 2024, 01:42:34 AM
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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?
Of course, if you are really into money, you will be tempted to cheat just to secure a winning bet but if you know that you really can't do it and are afraid to be caught, you will not do it.
Some people can maintain their integrity and commitment to gambling for fun, while others may find it challenging to resist just for easy money through cheating. This could really depend on some people because some people especially those really in need and willing to cheat just to make money, it's possible.

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June 03, 2024, 03:00:42 AM
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability
I don't know how you classify the cheating thought but am certain that it's definitely going to be hard to cheat a casino well the little more that I know you is the arbitrage betting which to some extent of you even look at it, it's not even you cheating the casino rather just being smart with the odd selection and besides it still requires lots of money and risk management buy yet some casino classify it as cheating and even go to the extent of freezing your account with them and all other accounts connect but I guess this is all for people who actually take gambling as something that's part of their business.

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Cheating is pretty much stealing and even if the casino doesn’t notice what you did right away, they will eventually if you continue with your habit and your account will get flagged. There might be some legal problems for you too. These casino owners don’t fuck around. They invested serious money in that business and they want returns. Stealing from them is not the brightest idea. Why can’t people find a job like everyone else if they need money so much smh

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June 03, 2024, 03:51:06 AM
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I think this isn't anymore a question of whether one gambles for fun or for profit. I think this is already a question of character. Whether one gambles for fun or profit doesn't mean he/she cheats in order to win.

Whichever way you treat gambling; it is immaterial as to whether you cheat or not. It doesn't automatically follow that since a gambler plays for profit he/she would resort to cheating. In the same manner that it also doesn't follow that since you only gamble for fun, you won't cheat. Cheaters cheat. Honest gamblers stay honest.

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We don't have to cheat when playing gambling even if we see a way to cheat casino. Casino will knows and that can effect to our account and will close our account immediately. That can makes us lose our fun by playing gambling and we can't accept if that happens to us.

You will difficult to make a profit from gambling and you should already knows about that. Instead of gets a problem because of cheating, we should not do that and playing gambling as usual and enjoy our time. Cheating is cheating as you said and that can gives a problem to us.

If we cheat, our reason for playing gambling will different from before. We can feels that our greediness will increase because our minds will thinks that we can gets more money by cheating the casino. But we don't knows that will makes us getting ban from casino.

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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

I don't want to get into trouble and it's not morally correct. No matter how confident you think you are when you cheat, there is always a chance of getting caught. Besides the fact that the frame from which you ask the question is that of someone who expects too much from gambling. I bet from time to time and with money that I can spare, that if I lose absolutely nothing happens, and therefore the amounts that I can win, although good if I make a 100x for example, are not going to change my life.

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Money can be blinding, it will be difficult for a person to resist such a thing.
But let's not take away that there are still more honest people in the world and they might do the right thing if ever they are facing this kind of trouble.

I will. Why? Simply because I don't want any trouble in the future. It could lead to a blacklist, a case that you have knowledge about yet but will only find out once you leave the country or sign up to another gambling site, the Account being banned, an IP ban, and more. So why do it? If there's trouble trying to sneak in, run away from it, don't try to chase the trouble because it will definitely go back to you. Not now, but maybe in the future. Karma is real.
Telling the issue might have some rewards, just do the right thing instead.

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It depends on the character of that individual, people that loved to cheat naturally in life or that loves to steal from others to enrich themselves, and people who are not satisfied with what they have, will like to cheat if they have the chance when gambling without thinking twice.

Upright and honest person will not cheat even if he has the access to cheat the casino, because that is not his lifestyle. I don't think that I have thought of cheating when gambling because I use it to entertain myself and I am enjoying the fun so why will I cheat. If I cheat, then it is no longer gambling but stealing, because your win wasn't t real and it was not by your luck.

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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

How do you plan to cheat casino/sports betting platform? Can you find a glitch in the casino and exploit it? Do you bet on fixed matches and you are 100% sure that your bets will end up being profitable? Is that what you mean by "cheating"? Well, good luck with this.
There are stupid gamblers, who think that they could cheat the casino/bookie, but in reality, they are the ones, who got scammed(by the casino/bookie, or by someone else, who is selling them "snake oil" fake cheating methods).
All gamblers are gambling for both fun and greed. The combination of fun and greed varies upon the different people. Some are more greedy than others. I have no illusions about making big money out of gambling. That's why I say that I'm gambling mostly for fun.

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Gambling for fun and wanting to make profits are not mutually exclusive. I gamble for fun and yes I want to make profit from it as well, but I do not expect to get rich from gambling and I will not set profit targets I want to make gambling, neither will I stake above my means, I will always use amounts I can afford to lose.

The difference is I watch games I stakes on and never get tense when the outcome is going against me cause I was never fully invested in the potential winnings and I did not stake a significant amount.

That being said, I will not take advantage of an opportunity to cheat the system because of my personal convictions.

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Those who gamble for fun seriously don’t care about the profits. They gamble for recreational purposes only. They don’t care about the money; hence, they really don’t care if you offer them fixed games or any means of unfair advantage to win the bet. They just gamble as their hobby and treat the real money as virtual game balance. I can’t exactly relate to how rich people will feel, but yes, cheating and making money isn’t ethically good.

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Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?
Some days ago I wrote about ethical gambling. It is not every gambler that is desperate for a win. Some of us are actually guided by a moral code of conduct. I believe that if I cheat someone I would be cheated back on it is a circle of life. If I cannot win the right way and instead look for cheat code then I cannot be said to be an ethical gambler who is gambling for fun even though I desire to win.

Anyone who would easily cheat at the slightest opportunity is someone I see that do not have a source of income or livelihood. And that person is going to be a potential candidate of gambling addiction because they want to win by any means possible.

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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

I'm still trying to understand the meaning of cheating that you said in this post, how someone can cheat when the casino has created a certain level of system for their security so that there is no cheating. Even if yes, gradually in the end a gambler who intends to commit fraud will eventually have his account frozen. Honestly, I never thought about it to this level. So, I'm a little doubtful about the cheating you mean.

well, I'll just talk simply. So you see, gambling is nothing more than a fun pastime, but it contains a lot of risks. Before we gamble, we have to prepare funds first so we can play it. The articulation of fun things is to make us play for entertainment, that's the goal, not to get money instantly and quickly. However, because gambling presents possibilities, yes, the possibility of losing or the possibility of winning, in other words, for anything fun there will be cause and effect. because we gamble, and the consequences of our gambling. It's just that the connotation of the meaning of cause and effect is subjective, not always something that is negative or detrimental.
For example, because we gamble, we experience many losses. or vice versa, because we bet, as a result we get a win commensurate with what we bet. In essence, gambling depends on how you define it. Also, gambling will always be our discussion here, yeah because there will always be pros and cons and it will be interesting for us to discuss. as you stated for example, with your assumptions and theories in defining gambling in this thread. So, it all depends on how we understand gambling and our perspective on gambling.


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June 03, 2024, 09:54:57 AM
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability
I know myself, and as much as I want to say that I would stay in the straight and narrow, the prospect of getting that guaranteed win will definitely sway me towards cheating and taking advantage of glithces or whatever it is that leads me to gain that advantage. But the thing is that to of course, make sure that the exploit remains up and running for the longest time possible, and to also ensure that the casino does not incur anymore losses from other people who may happen upon my find, I will keep the knowledge of such cheating/exploit to myself. Not even a hint will come out to the people.

I wouldn't call myself a desperate gambler, and frankly speaking you could say the same for a lot of the people here who answered they would succumb to cheating in the prospect of a guaranteed win. It's just that risk-management taught us to always choose the safest option that would yield us the most benefits, and in this situation that was what would yield us the most benefits.

Again, not saying that I'm gonna cheat on my games from now on or whatever, I'm better than that, just saying that if it does come to that point, I might end up cheating on the games.

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