Would you bet against the club you support?

[MainIbem]

 Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

[Oshosondy]

The man is working in a club and betting against the gamble. I am not working as an employee in any club and this makes it different. If there is no rules that I can or can not bet against the club that I am employed, why not bet against them if you analyzed and think that the club will lose. I can do it. But provided if not against the rules. As the man is sacked, I think it is against the club rules for a worker to bet against them.

[ralle14]

I'm willing to place a bet against my team if it means I get to win some money, but it becomes another story when i'm a part of a football club and i'll be betting against one of their matches. I'd rather not risk losing my job over a one-time bet since there's a conflict of interest. In sports betting, you sometimes have to set aside your emotions and learn to take the opposing side except if you're working for a club or team.

Also, here's a link to the betting incident in case others are curious about the details.

[Frankolala]

I am a gambler does not mean that if I see a sure bet against my club to lose, that I will not take advantage of that bet, because it is fun to see that you win your bet. If it was in the rules of the club that an employee working for a club should not place a bet against the club, then that employee went wrong and deserves to be fired.

However, if it was not in their rules, I don't see it as any problem because he is only gambling and a gambler has the right to bet on whichever club he thinks is cool to put his money on. I always bet against my club if they are the underdog.

[Kelward]

I don't think that anybody will want to bet to loose, and when you think that your favorite team don't stand a chance in a game with a team that you think is better, then you go ahead and bet against your team. This doesn't mean that you don't love your team or you're not going to continue to support them but when it comes to placing your money, you don't let your emotions to cloud your judgement.

If you're an employee of a club, I don't think that will compel you to support every match that they play, except you're in the executive that buys players. Although it wouldn't be proper to anounce this to people, you can just discreetly place your bets without raising any dust, when you're betting against a team that you work for. But if there's a rule that employees should not bet against the club, then employees should respect the terms and conditions of the club.

[Marvelockg]

Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

why wouldn't I make a bet against the club I'm supporting if I know that they are playing against a team that is stronger than them? We have to know that even if we make the bet or not it doesn't even play any role in determining if the match will go inline with your bet or against it. And I doubt that there is a sort of agreement that's signed between the organisation that employed you  and yourself regarding that they've bought you totally and that you shouldn't make a personal decision on your own. Maybe it could be that you could be made to sign an agreement that if you're ever placing a bet against your club, and that's for the case where you're a staff in a club that it must not go public.

During the last female workd cup, I've seen lots of my country people placing a bet against a country in a match that we played against a team that's stronger than us and that's just normal. In that context, you might talk about not being patriotic enough but the reality is that it's not just a patriotism stuff but you're gambling based on your analysis and not just mere sentiment or emotions.

[un_rank]

Everyone should realize that it was not the club that suspended him but a regulatory body. It is against the rules for someone in a significant position in a football club to gamble as you can influence the outcome of the matches directly or indirectly. He for example could sabotage Swansea causing them to lose when he bet on them to, this creates a direct conflict of interest.

The club allegedly supported him during the trial and continue to do so, according to the reports^[1]

[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/swansea-employee-banned-from-football-for-betting/ar-BB1no7XA

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[Viscore]

If it means winning, why not? Sports betting should have one goal which is to win, and sometimes the best way to win is to beat against what you like as most of the time you can be wrong. Nothing personal, I mean if you are betting and like to succeed, it should be your mind that will be followed not your emotion. Do you know the reason why sportsbook keeps raking money from most of the bettors, that's because most of us bet with our favorite team, and that's where the oddsmaker will come and make a line that is overvalued on the favorite team.

[salad daging]

If we are an employee at the club especially if there is a rule then I will not do that work is more important than betting which is only occasional or maybe the club addresses this with discipline on employees for betting on other teams.

If I were not an employee of the club then I would freely bet on any match, sometimes I like to bet against the favorite team because what I am looking for is profit and for me there is no favorite club.

I don't know the rules clearly as to why this is happening do you have any articles we can read that would like to see this news appear.

[danherbias07]

That's the wrong idea. People should not mind other's pick when it comes to gambling because that ain't their money which is at risk. Who cares if you are a fan or not, the purpose of gambling is to make more money, and being emotional about it is where it actually goes wrong. I'd prefer an ease of mind that I won't lose my bet than being stressed out while watching the game and witnessing your favorite team losing.
I don't need to switch countries too just so I can go against them. It's gambling. Yes, they will have my full support when it comes to cheering for my country team but I won't go as far as betting for them when it's too obvious that they are super underdogs for a reason. That's a waste of money and no one will care once you get broke, as if they will give back what you lost. I doubt that.

[Davidvictorson]

The man is working in a club and betting against the gamble. I am not working as an employee in any club and this makes it different. If there is no rules that I can or can not bet against the club that I am employed, why not bet against them if you analyzed and think that the club will lose. I can do it. But provided if not against the rules. As the man is sacked, I think it is against the club rules for a worker to bet against them.

This is a funny one. I think the club we tag the staff that than made bets against them and not being loyal or one of those corporate jargons. I can't blame him I would probably do the same thing if my organization is not up and doing. Nothing sentimental about it just logic and reasoning. If this is not in any way against the rules of the club as written in any company document, then they employee has the right to sue the club for victimization. And he'll win unless there's more to it which the public is not privy to.

[retreat]

It's just a matter of ethics, it's like this, if you have a business and one of your employees hopes that your business will lose to competitors, do you still want to employ unethical employees like this? it's like that. Because he is a worker at the club, he lives off the salary he gets from the club, and it has become the main thing for him to support the club, even when he is sure that the club will lose, because that has become an ethic in their work. It was different if he was an ordinary person, no one would mind which club he would bet on, even if it was his own city club. However, he is an employee and it is his obligation to support the club - if he wants extra cash then he can bet against the club, but the risk is predictable that he will lose his job.

[ultrloa]

Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

In case that if I am the employee of certain club then I will not bet against on my team its because its like betrayal for the team we are working on. Its unfortunate that guy has been terminated to his job but that's what can we expect since its not good to retain someone who's not going to support you since there are tendency that guy will became an insider for other team and he leak something important information that can make the team lost to their opponent.

If I'm not working on the club and just supporting the team then maybe I will do it. But if working on their side then this is different story since we need to became loyal to the club we are working since they are paying us to do certain jobs and not to became an observer then bet opposing team.

[SamReomo]

would you bet against the club you support ?

First of all, I don't really support any club by default and secondly if I were supporter of a club and the club kept losing time after time then I would surely bet in favor of a better club. In gambling world, supporting a club isn't a wise move and if someone does that then that person will be responsible for his/her losses if the club is a weak one.

If I had to support a club then I would choose the toughest club that's available and I would place bet in favor of that club as long as it shows courage to beat the other clubs. But, if the same club and its players get unmotivated and indulge in the activities that would make other clubs lead them then surely I would consider betting in favor of another club.

[rahmad2nd]

Theoretically, one can do anything with one's bets. yeah, according to the will he wants to bet. The choice is subjective, the point is that we can even maneuver to bet on the opposing team and ignore our favorite team. It all depends on the gambler, conditions and situation. In gambling, everything is possible based on my personal understanding. You can even do the opposite when betting during a match, with the situation depending on when you are also watching your favorite club's match live

I am a football lover, several clubs are my favorites in several big leagues. when my favorite team is about to play a match, especially against a team that is more competitive and tough. there are many options that I can choose from the available bets, which means that we don't have to choose one of the competing clubs if we are not sure about our favorite. in fact, I always do so if the odds provided are not ideal. for example, my favorite team against a mediocre team.  because the odds are very low, I am looking for other options that I can choose as a bet. and for experienced bettors, it is possible to choose a club from their favorite opposing team. It all depends on the results of research and analysis, as well as the condition and performance of the team.
Personally, I don't do it for our favorite team. I can bet on other options, as I said. or, don't bet at all and just watch it to see how it performs. speaking of someone told in this thread, it would be a shame if it were true. I mean, someone lost their job. But, I'm not in the realm of passing judgment or making assumptions. because, there are many factors. It's possible that the club has rules that we don't know about for all those involved in it, including their employees.

[Hispo]

Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works

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. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

Though, I would like to point out something: it is different betting against a club you believe is going to lose on an incoming match as an expectator. On the other hand, there is completely different thing to bet against a club you work on (And you making it public). Because there is a conflict on interest in that situation: you would want your team to lose because of the stake you have got on the opposing team, but also, since you work in the team you are betting against, it could tell a lot about your role and performance on helping that team to improve and win matches.
If there is no conflict of interests, and one is an expectator and a football game trying to pocket some money off the matches, then I would not see anything wrong on betting against a team one truly likes. It would be situational though. We sometimes forget betting id about making money, not burning money because of the fervor one feels for a team in particular.

If I worked for a football club and I thought they would lose in the next match, I would not directly bet against them, perhaps indirectly by telling some family member, as a tip. But, I would not put my job at stake.

[Odohu]

Supporting a club has no monetary value, just for fun and entertainment, although some people get their emotions involved. It is natural to want your club to win, the reason many people do not bet against their club but if we want to act like professional gamblers, sometimes we can bet against our clubs if that is the most feasible option. If this is a great deal, the best is to avoid the club you support after all there are many other matches to bet. We don't have to place bet that will deny us the peace we need, so avoiding the club we support should be the best option.

[ajiz138]

That guy was only fined £1,500 and banned for 12 months by the regulatory body for getting caught despite appealing he would still be suspended, but the club backed him after reading the above news.

This is similar to the case of Tonali who was suspended for several months due to betting so it is clear that when they are employees/staff of the club they should not bet because it will affect the game that can be regulated, so the independent commission made the ban.

Imagine him betting for 5 years and making £92,000 with a 10% loss according to the article.

[Strongkored]

Maybe you should include a link to the tweet so it's clearer what really happened, was he fired for betting on the club he was working for losing, or was he fired for violating some other rule. As far as I know there is a rule that players can't bet on their club so there could be a rule for club employees, and since he is an employee of the club it does look bad that he expects bad things to happen to the place where he makes money, it's like you betting that the company you work for will go bankrupt in the near future.
But only for a fan then it should not be a problem because even though as a fan certainly expects to get money especially the odds are very attractive and realize that our favorite club is impossible to win, but a heavy fans is unlikely to do that.

[sunsilk]

Yeah, this kind of thread has been posted before. I feel bad for that employee who gambled against his team and the company that he works for.

IMHO, if you're part of the company, it's normal to support them all the way. But if it's about betting, the company doesn't have jurisdiction about it unless you're entirely part of the club that plays on the field.

And if I am a supporter, I typically do bet against the team that I support if I think that there's some handicap that will make them lose and it's normal.