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July 20, 2024, 04:39:13 AM
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Yups, that's their goal is not to have a permanent physical office, they will move from one place to another and are unknown, and it is still happening until now.
But some former employees of illegal online gambling have also started to speak up about how the gambling operates and what are the modes, this is a topic that is being hyped in my country right now.
Moving from one place to another to prevents from the problem that can happens so that will makes police in that jurisdiction difficult to track where is their office. Police must make a relation to other police from different country so if something bad happens, they can contact to that police to helps them solve the problem.

If police can asks to the former employees of illegal online gambling, that will helps them to investigate the case. But as they will not know who are the former employees, that will gives another difficulties to the police. That's why it is difficult to track online gambling to investigate the case especially if online gambling operate in different jurisdiction and don't have relation to other countries. Gamblers can't do anything to solve their problem.

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July 20, 2024, 09:05:08 AM
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I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
There isn't any form of jurisdiction for a "common man" , but the case sits well with them if you have a professional & legal practitioner. Obviously, he's gonna be well paid to sue them and, this should also be on a huge fund.

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is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?
I know of an investigative site that you could report them to, but you gotta make sure of your claims.. This site doesn't convict 'em for whatever; they only call them to address the issue and if not, they'll label them as a scam site.
You could also read reviews to avoid inevitable mistakes, IMHO
https://casino.guru/winz-io-casino-player-s-winnings-confiscated-over


If it's just about this investigative site giving such a casino tags of scams without being able to serve justice of conviction then it doesn't find necessary for the minor or "common man" to take a case up to them because what the common man needed was justice which would profit or satisfy his feelings and not just to criticize the image of the affected casino as may say "label for scamming"

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July 20, 2024, 09:42:56 AM
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I've not seen or read of a case where a gambler has ever taken legal action against a gambling company in my jurisdiction for failure to keep their side of the bargain, for most countries that don't view gambling from a positive spectrum, it's going to be difficult for legal action to be easily filled against them but when the gambling company is regulated by the government of the said locality, then the issue of the role of the contract of agreement that exists between the gamblers and the casino company comes into play and if what's at stake is huge, a gambler can easily take up a case against the gambling company.

The issue will be for most crypto casino companies that are operational in regions where the government that's in charge of such a metropolis isn't clear as to whether or not crypto usage is acceptable. For the gambler's sanity and to avoid unnecessary attention and attack from the government, even when you are certain that your rights have been infringed upon as a gambler, it's going to be difficult to speak out and air your displeasure with whatever action the casino company has done against you and I guess this is the reason why people have complains that due to their consistent wins, they've been denied access to gamble on a particular casino site even when they've not broken any terms of the company and yet can't do anything to help themselves because of the regions stands of crypto.

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July 20, 2024, 09:51:17 AM
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I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
There isn't any form of jurisdiction for a "common man" , but the case sits well with them if you have a professional & legal practitioner. Obviously, he's gonna be well paid to sue them and, this should also be on a huge fund.

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is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?
I know of an investigative site that you could report them to, but you gotta make sure of your claims.. This site doesn't convict 'em for whatever; they only call them to address the issue and if not, they'll label them as a scam site.
You could also read reviews to avoid inevitable mistakes, IMHO
https://casino.guru/winz-io-casino-player-s-winnings-confiscated-over


If it's just about this investigative site giving such a casino tags of scams without being able to serve justice of conviction then it doesn't find necessary for the minor or "common man" to take a case up to them because what the common man needed was justice which would profit or satisfy his feelings and not just to criticize the image of the affected casino as may say "label for scamming"

casino.guru is a conflict mediator between a customer and a casino, they listen to the customer's side and look at the evidence that the casino customer has presented and then they listen to the casino's side and look at the arguments and evidence that the casino present and then they analyze everything. when casino.guru comes to the conclusion that the customer is correct, then they advise the casino to solve the problem and if the casino refuses to solve the problem, then casino.guru puts up a warning so that people should not use the casino .

why a casino would listen to casino.guru's recommendations?

casino.guro does not have police, they are not judges of any court, they are not license providers. So why would any casino listen to casino.guro? Answer: casino.guro is a site that has a history of reputation, they have a lot of traffic, so it is a very important place for a casino to be added to constantly have more customers. This gave casino.guro a certain power to mediate conflicts. a casino that intends to run a long-term business would not risk having a tarnished reputation and not being added to the casino.guro

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July 20, 2024, 10:49:42 AM
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So best solution is only use the trusted casino because they will not sacrifice their reputation for a mere issue on selected user.
This is the most important thing to do. I remember the time I first wanted to gamble, I browsed online about trustworthy gambling sites. Not only that but I also find out about their customer support and how often people are complaining about account ban. As I come to this forum, it becomes very easy for me to see gambling sites that I can use to gamble. I have never had issue before but I follow the rules of the casinos, which is very important.
I agree with this method of choosing only trusted casinos that have built reputation and they will not want to destroy the legacy that they've built. We can liken casino reputations to cryptocurrency, it is always safe to invest in Bitcoin and a few top altcoins that have built reputations in the crypto market, rather than gambling your funds in many projects where most of them are scams. To avoid being scammed by casinos, gamblers should research and know reputable casinos before gambling with them.  It will save a lot of energy and resources to fight and get justice from the oppressions unreliable casinos and bet companies.

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July 20, 2024, 11:13:13 AM
 #106

So best solution is only use the trusted casino because they will not sacrifice their reputation for a mere issue on selected user.
This is the most important thing to do. I remember the time I first wanted to gamble, I browsed online about trustworthy gambling sites. Not only that but I also find out about their customer support and how often people are complaining about account ban. As I come to this forum, it becomes very easy for me to see gambling sites that I can use to gamble. I have never had issue before but I follow the rules of the casinos, which is very important.
I agree with this method of choosing only trusted casinos that have built reputation and they will not want to destroy the legacy that they've built. We can liken casino reputations to cryptocurrency, it is always safe to invest in Bitcoin and a few top altcoins that have built reputations in the crypto market, rather than gambling your funds in many projects where most of them are scams. To avoid being scammed by casinos, gamblers should research and know reputable casinos before gambling with them.  It will save a lot of energy and resources to fight and get justice from the oppressions unreliable casinos and bet companies.
Yes no company will like to terminate the good reputation they have unless the casino has been compromised by a hacker, that's why I like the forum because it's not hard for the forum to investigate and fetch out a scam casino. The forum is a good place to know a good casino that's reputation. However every casino has their own own issues, and some of this issues are delay in deposit or inactive customer support.

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July 20, 2024, 11:23:17 AM
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I don’t think there will be any benefits when creating something like that, because Gamblers didn’t get forced to gamble it is their choice and I’m not sure if it will be proven automatically or not. It’s up to the casino's digression if they will be taking advantage of them or not.

Just choose a different place and they think it will be okay unless it is unjust.

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July 20, 2024, 12:30:42 PM
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I don’t think there will be any benefits when creating something like that, because Gamblers didn’t get forced to gamble it is their choice and I’m not sure if it will be proven automatically or not. It’s up to the casino's digression if they will be taking advantage of them or not.
Although, there would be benefits like effective self-exclusion. We all know that self-exclusion is ineffective on online gambling because you can exclude yourself on a gambling site and register on another gambling site if you feel like gambling again. But as it will have advantages, also will it have disadvantages. The disadvantage is that people will see it as privacy invasion. People do not like someone or people or government to invade their privacy.

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July 20, 2024, 02:21:15 PM
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This is the most important thing to do. I remember the time I first wanted to gamble, I browsed online about trustworthy gambling sites. Not only that but I also find out about their customer support and how often people are complaining about account ban. As I come to this forum, it becomes very easy for me to see gambling sites that I can use to gamble. I have never had issue before but I follow the rules of the casinos, which is very important.
I agree with this method of choosing only trusted casinos that have built reputation and they will not want to destroy the legacy that they've built. We can liken casino reputations to cryptocurrency, it is always safe to invest in Bitcoin and a few top altcoins that have built reputations in the crypto market, rather than gambling your funds in many projects where most of them are scams. To avoid being scammed by casinos, gamblers should research and know reputable casinos before gambling with them.  It will save a lot of energy and resources to fight and get justice from the oppressions unreliable casinos and bet companies.

Many governments even prohibit their citizens from gambling, so don't naively think that any legal authority will protect gamblers. Governments will only protect us unless they benefit from protecting us, if we deliberately evade taxes and do not listen to their advice, we should not expect them to protect us.
That's right, just like investing in cryptocurrency or choosing an exchange to use, we need to choose reputable gambling brands to minimize risks and be treated fairly.

Honestly , when it comes to gambling other than choosing reputable casinos, I don't see any better solution to protect yourself. We should protect ourselves instead of relying on someone.

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With the actual casino, the casino has the right to check if their players don't do anything malicious with their system this to prevent cheaters and invaders to win the game with the help of cheating so they can ban them from the casino and add them to their blacklisted players the same thing with the online casino now the thing is the players has the rights too to have a file case with the casino other thing is they didn't received the payment they deserve and the casino hold their assets and due to some tag of suspicious activity they will now give their winning money this now can serve and file into the court as other member mentioned and related information there are really some cases that they win against it so now it will make a checking which side has the rights.

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If I got your question right, I think it's not about specifically backing up gamblers against casinos. In countries where casinos are legal, the authorities or regulators won't take sides merely for the sake of taking sides. Complaints have to taken up individually. Resolutions and decisions shall be based on the merits of each complaint. If it is found out that the gambler is right and the casino wrong, then the authorities would favor the gambler. If it is otherwise, then the authorities would favor the casino. I think this is how it is.

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If police can asks to the former employees of illegal online gambling, that will helps them to investigate the case. But as they will not know who are the former employees, that will gives another difficulties to the police. That's why it is difficult to track online gambling to investigate the case especially if online gambling operate in different jurisdiction and don't have relation to other countries. Gamblers can't do anything to solve their problem.
In reality, many former employees of illegal online casinos have been caught and become key witnesses to dismantle illegal online casinos.
But the police only moved and closed the office, not daring to continue too far, even though it was already known who the big dealer or the person behind the illegal online casino was.

There is a large enough money involvement to eliminate this kind of case so that the casino will not be in the spotlight and remain safe.
There are many corrupt police officers who still accept bribes not to continue the investigation.

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If it's just about this investigative site giving such a casino tags of scams without being able to serve justice of conviction then it doesn't find necessary for the minor or "common man" to take a case up to them because what the common man needed was justice which would profit or satisfy his feelings and not just to criticize the image of the affected casino as may say "label for scamming"

This is the only thing we can do against online casino since filing a legal case against them cost a lot due to location issue. Their license provider should do their job and step up on this kind of case yet they are very slow to handle all the complaints. License provider like Curacao just gain money from this casino but never do their job on enforcing their power against casino showing unfair action towards player.

License provider should be the one to push on protecting users since they are the one that gives power to this casino to operate legally. The only thing we can do is to hope for a better license provider or Curacao improve their service.

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July 21, 2024, 05:18:10 AM
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In reality, many former employees of illegal online casinos have been caught and become key witnesses to dismantle illegal online casinos.
But the police only moved and closed the office, not daring to continue too far, even though it was already known who the big dealer or the person behind the illegal online casino was.

There is a large enough money involvement to eliminate this kind of case so that the casino will not be in the spotlight and remain safe.
There are many corrupt police officers who still accept bribes not to continue the investigation.
Maybe the police feels that they don't have a strong people or officials behinds them so they are difficult to continue the investigation even if they know the big dealer or person behind that illegal online casino. It happens in many countries when the illegal business have someone that have power to control many things. That will makes regulator difficult to search for more information.

When the money is the motives, that will not easy because they can bribe many people to shut their mouth and will not tell anything about their illegal business. That will not makes authority finish the investigation as they will face a big problem because of many corrupt police officers or even officials that will prevents the investigation. We see that many cases can't solved because of that matters.

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July 21, 2024, 08:30:57 AM
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I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?
Gambling regulation is still weak globally, the government is only particular about the tax they are receiving and turned a deaf ear to the cries of people. Still, I believe countries like the US, UK and Europe are doing better with gambling, only that it could take forever before they will listen to anybody. This is why people are turning to other alternatives online.

However, if the money involved is big enough, I advise the victim to take direct legal action which I believe will lead to somewhere good. This is why it's good to take some screenshots and videos of some of your activities with casinos, especially those involving deposits and withdrawals, to at least be the proof you have as the casinos own the system and can change anything internally when there is a dispute.

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Many governments even prohibit their citizens from gambling, so don't naively think that any legal authority will protect gamblers. Governments will only protect us unless they benefit from protecting us, if we deliberately evade taxes and do not listen to their advice, we should not expect them to protect us.
That's right, just like investing in cryptocurrency or choosing an exchange to use, we need to choose reputable gambling brands to minimize risks and be treated fairly.

Honestly , when it comes to gambling other than choosing reputable casinos, I don't see any better solution to protect yourself. We should protect ourselves instead of relying on someone.
Government should protect its citizens, right? Roads, schools, and hospitals wont save your awful poker night. Your decisions are yours. Not to discourage gambling. Let me tell you, I gambled. Be clever about it. Choose a respectable establishment, know when to leave, and dont expect the authorities to mop up your loss. That doesnt work.

Winning every hand doesnt bring tranquilly. It comes from knowing you've done your homework, played smart, and are in charge. This is how you gamble and live. Be responsible and prepared to attain inner serenity. I promise its the best hand.

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July 21, 2024, 07:31:45 PM
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I don’t think there will be any benefits when creating something like that, because Gamblers didn’t get forced to gamble it is their choice and I’m not sure if it will be proven automatically or not. It’s up to the casino's digression if they will be taking advantage of them or not.

Just choose a different place and they think it will be okay unless it is unjust.

Personally, I think that casinos always have every obligation of their customers written in their ToS, and customers are judged by the rules that have already been passed on the ToS, but the customers probably did not read the rules. Although I have read some topics about gamblers complaining that their accounts got locked by the casinos for no reason, Only a non-reputable (scam casino) casino can do so; otherwise, if a casino locks their customers accounts or penalizes them for a particular offense, they will actually let the customer know what their offense is. It is necessary to read the terms and policies of the casino before using it. 

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July 21, 2024, 07:44:18 PM
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I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

Do you know that when you accept the term and conditions that comes with like "we have the right to suspend your account anytime we found a suspicious activity" can make you not win any case in anywhere. It's because of legal fears they put many pages in writing which is usually draft by their own lawyer so that no player can sue the casino and win unless there is an evidence where it's obvious that the casino are the one trying to take the advantage of the player and if such cases are much, the casino don't grow in users.

Sometimes in this forum, people like DT help look at situations and if there is a chance that Casino is trying to play smart, they warn the community about the casino and make sure they are tagged so that new customers wouldn't fall for their games again but they wouldn't be ban but surely they wouldn't have reputation left to attract new customers to the casino.

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July 21, 2024, 08:05:24 PM
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I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?
Every casino that allows gambling also has laws that ensure safe gambling. In my country, I know that I won't become a victim of scams of local casinos because they are licensed locally and the government ensures that games provided by them are fair, there is an audit that does checkups very often. Btw if you talk about crypto casinos, they own a Curacao license and to be fair, that doesn't mean much for you as a player. Crypto casinos, despite the fact that they have a Curacao license, still work based on a trust model, e.g. they build a reputation and this reputation is that gives us a sense of security that our game will be fair and we won't become a victim of scams.

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