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June 03, 2024, 01:31:08 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining
I give you some resources to read by yourself rather than explaining everything here for you.

If you want to learn, I am sure you can read.

End the fud. Find many related documents on Energy consumption, environmental issues, price.
Bicoin clean up. Read to understand facts about Bitcoin mining.
Bitcoin mining council with quarterly reports and more detailed on Youtube.

After reading those resources to debunk Bitcoin fud, you will need to read
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June 03, 2024, 02:20:19 PM
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What exactly do you want to talk about OP, you did add the issues/disadvantages that bitcoin's got but you fail to deliver your own opinion about it. Shouldn't there be some substance with how you talk about this things, if you continue this kind of thing, it would probably not do you any better because you're going to be branded as low quality poster. Maybe add your own thing so people will have something to discuss and they don't have a hard time guessing.

Regarding those issues that you've mentioned, most of them aren't really a big deal, volatility isn't really an issue or a disadvantage for bitcoin, I mean if the price can drop that low or can go that high, I think that it would be a really good thing because if you look at it in a different way, it's going to be considered an opportunity for someone to buy at a lower prices.

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June 03, 2024, 02:25:57 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues,
Developers are looking for ways to solve its scalability issues though it might come still in a long time but I am sure it will come.
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price volatility,

There’s really no solving this as this is part of bitcoin nay all cryptocurrencies’ nature. It is something we just have to live with in the present and the future.
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and environmental concerns relating to mining
There are plenty ways to address the environmental concerns such as using renewable energy instead. Again these are all challenging but I believe are doable. We just need to give it some time.

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June 03, 2024, 02:30:36 PM
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I give you some resources to read by yourself rather than explaining everything here for you.

If you want to learn, I am sure you can read.
You have enlisted a good number of topics here, I already knew about the endthefud and read some of the threads there already but the last one from Vijay is quite new for me, and it's really a deep one. The author of the post really made a good effort to compile this up. Overall, the conclusion is enough to understand what the Vijay is talking about, which most of us already know that BTC is the new currency how it will dominate all other types of currencies.

That's why BTC will be adopted more and when more people will use it, due to scarcity factor it will increase in value thus proved to be a good source to store the value of money in it. Speaking of mining, there are some constraints like block size which can be managed to some extent via lighting network and the transaction fee which can also be managed to some extent via lighting network speaking of energy, I can say for sure that after reading the endthe fud website's article OP will know most of the concerns related to BTC mining energy are just excuses to start another side business of green energy. You will see a lot on this narrative.

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June 03, 2024, 02:46:28 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining


Scalability issues:

Lightning Network (and possible other future L2 solutions)



Price volatility:

Not a disadvantage, simply part of the process of price discovery of an asset in its adoption phase.



Environmental concerns:

These concerns are from people who don't understand how mining works. The end result of mining is strengthening society's electrical production and specifically helping renewable energy by operating with excess energy at power plants or stranded renewables. Sure some energy use will continue to come from fossil fuels for as long as society uses fossil fuels, but that's no different than literally anything else in the world that uses electricity.
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June 03, 2024, 06:51:08 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining
In my personal case I can't see any disadvantage or downside of Bitcoin especially in this digital age such a digital currency is playing a very important role in the economic development and improvement of the current civilization. However, although Bitcoin is currently used in various criminal activities, in that case, Bitcoin is not running in any bad direction by itself, but it only has bad effects automatically when the users run in the bad side. Bitcoin plays a very important role in controlling inflation and is used as an important medium of exchange in today's civilization.  Various countries are very active in legalizing Bitcoin and already some countries in the world especially El Salvador have already legalized Bitcoin.

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June 03, 2024, 08:13:14 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining

Hmm, I won't comment on the Scalability issue with Bitcoin. Still, for the environmental concerns, buddy you need to realize that Bitcoin is not at all affecting the environment badly, because most of the miners use their power to run the mining setup like l=solar energy, on a large scale unit as well Now miners are putting their efforts to build self-powered units.

Even if Bitcoin miners uses the commercial electricity supply, still not an issue generated with Bitcoin, it's an issue that suppliers are not using ecosystem-friendly power generation sources, I believe maximum power is not based on renewable sources.

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buddy you need to realize that Bitcoin is not at all affecting the environment badly, because most of the miners use their power to run the mining setup like l=solar energy, on a large scale unit as well Now miners are putting their efforts to build self-powered units.
Exactly.when people try to argue why they do not like bitcoin and they say because of its environmental impacts, they need to realize that bitcoin isn’t even the top producer of carbon emissions in the world. While we can indeed do better environmentally speaking, there are bigger problems to worry about.

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June 03, 2024, 10:01:00 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining
In my personal case I can't see any disadvantage or downside of Bitcoin especially in this digital age such a digital currency is playing a very important role in the economic development and improvement of the current civilization.

Didn't we experience the scalability issue several times?  When someone wants to play the network transaction fee, all these people have to do is congest the network.  It could not have been an issue if there was no problem with the scalability of Bitcoin.  I agree that developers are working on it but yet it has not been fully solved until now.  With these congestions also comes the transaction fee hike.

Regarding with price volatility, it is also one of the attractive factors of the Bitcoin market.  So I would not consider it as a disadvantage of Bitcoins.

Environmental problems regarding Bitcoin mining have been debunked many times I don't know why people still use these things to give a negative impression of Bitcoin.

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June 03, 2024, 10:31:43 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining

I can’t see any disadvantages of Bitcoin here that you indicate in your subject in this thread. However, price volatility is not a disadvantage to the Bitcoin ecosystem; that is how it was created, and that is why you can invest in it. If the price remains in one place, how can you invest and expect any return from it? So don’t include volatility when mentioning the disadvantages of bitcoin for environmental concerns.

 This is applicable to any environment management where we have a small number of people who know about bitcoin, and people in such environments are not ready to learn about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. If not, I don’t think this is a big deal to the Bitcoin ecosystem in any way. 

Exactly.when people try to argue why they do not like bitcoin and they say because of its environmental impacts, they need to realize that bitcoin isn’t even the top producer of carbon emissions in the world. While we can indeed do better environmentally speaking, there are bigger problems to worry about.

Sure. You are right, most of these people don’t really know the main use of bitcoin and how it works. That is why they panic over many other things that are affecting the environment, but they are not ready to talk about them; they only focus on what will bring an easy life to the people. And Furthermore, even though miners are using the electricity people are using, I don’t think this will affect the power supply of such an environment. I’m very sure there are many other things going on that use the same electricity, but nothing has happened, so I don’t know how mining will affect the proper supply of power.

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June 03, 2024, 11:12:50 PM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining

Will put down the articles you mentioned since maybe you are interested on that topic.

This is helpful article to read

Scability issues  https://crypto.com/university/bitcoin-scalability

Price volatility https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/what-is-volatility/

Environmental concerns related to mining https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2021/09/20/bitcoins-impacts-on-climate-and-the-environment/

This take long time to read so I do hope you take spend some of your free time reading this since for sure there would be a lot of learnings to get from this article. Although you can get an idea by ideas given by people but its more ideal if you can read the whole article so for you not to miss out some other information that you need to know.

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June 04, 2024, 01:55:18 AM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining

Unless you want to tackle more specific(and newer) aspects of the issues you've mentioned, you're probably better off just reading discussions on older threads concerning these issues.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473700.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447045.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467209.0

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the last one from Vijay is quite new for me, and it's really a deep one. The author of the post really made a good effort to compile this up. Overall, the conclusion is enough to understand what the Vijay is talking about, which most of us already know that BTC is the new currency how it will dominate all other types of currencies.
That article from Vijay is very old and it is originally on Medium, you can read and enjoy it there, but if you want to support Vijay, you can buy his book on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Bullish-Case-Bitcoin-Vijay-Boyapati/dp/1737204118

Vijay notes it on Medium too.
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UPDATE: First published as a long-form article in 2018, The Bullish Case for Bitcoin has become the most read non-technical introduction to Bitcoin. An updated and significantly expanded edition of The Bullish Case for Bitcoin was published as a book in 2021 and it can now be purchased for a discounted price at my online store, along with art, clothing, and merchandise associated with the book. The foreword was written by Michael Saylor, with testimonials from Jack Dorsey (former CEO of Twitter), Cynthia Lummis (US Senator), and Adam Back (cypherpunk).

Follow his X's account if you want https://x.com/real_vijay

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That's why BTC will be adopted more and when more people will use it, due to scarcity factor it will increase in value thus proved to be a good source to store the value of money in it.
There are many characteristics make Bitcoin is unique and scarcity is one of them. Scam developers can create their Proof of Work coins with total supplies like 11.5M or 5.525M or whatever smaller total supply number but I believe their altcoins will not have good utility and value like Bitcoin has.

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June 04, 2024, 03:10:46 AM
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Concerns in terms of scalability, volatility and environmental problems are only felt by a small number of people who are still not ready for all the processes contained in Bitcoin technology. Losses from Bitcoin are due to being impatient to go through all the processes that occur due to a very volatile market. Personally, I have felt many benefits from Bitcoin due to taking advantage of the volatility that occurs in the market.
The interpretation depends on where you stand, Bitcoin has played a big role in building the economy and making it easier for everyone to carry out international transactions without having to use bank services. All the advantages offered by Bitcoin have made this technology increasingly developed, increasing public interest in Bitcoin will make Bitcoin adoption even more widespread in the future.

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Since you used these two together let me remind you that bitcoin scalability and the recent fee spike are not related at all. The recent mess where we experienced a prolonged mempool congestion and a big rise in fee rate is due to an ongoing spam attack against bitcoin known as Ordinals. It is not because of scaling or block capacity. Even if block capacity were a lot bigger than this, we still would experience a similar situation due to such an attack.

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Since you used these two together let me remind you that bitcoin scalability and the recent fee spike are not related at all. The recent mess where we experienced a prolonged mempool congestion and a big rise in fee rate is due to an ongoing spam attack against bitcoin known as Ordinals. It is not because of scaling or block capacity. Even if block capacity were a lot bigger than this, we still would experience a similar situation due to such an attack.
Ordinals in 2023 and Runes in 2024 shortly after April halving.
The emergence of Ordinals
Inscriptions, Mempools and Miners

Runes attacks in April but they are dying.
The Bitcoin Halving Is Here, and With It a Giant Surge in Transaction Fees
Bitcoin Transaction Fees Come Crashing Down Post Halving
Bitcoin Runes Protocol Sees Traction Waning After Much-Hyped Introduction

Ordinals and Runes hypes make Bitcoin miners richer but they also warn people of risk of investment, bets on BRC20 tokens, inscriptions even they are on Bitcoin blockchain.

Bitcoin is here to stay many more years but we can not say the same for future of Ordinals, Runes.

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June 04, 2024, 06:02:59 AM
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Examining the challenges bitcoin faces including scalability issues, price volatility, and environmental concerns relating to mining
I give you some resources to read by yourself rather than explaining everything here for you.

If you want to learn, I am sure you can read.

End the fud. Find many related documents on Energy consumption, environmental issues, price.
Bicoin clean up. Read to understand facts about Bitcoin mining.
Bitcoin mining council with quarterly reports and more detailed on Youtube.

After reading those resources to debunk Bitcoin fud, you will need to read
The bullish case for Bitcoin
I commend you for taking out time to list out all these links for the Op to satisfy his curiosity (if any)  but I also won't be surprised too if all this  is to create a thread they may not respond to. Say to generate traffic and go away.
I wonder sometimes why these newbies who ask for guidance on how to operate on the forum or what books to read to know more about cryptocurrencies don't come back here and at least try to educate us on what they were able to understand, at least show that the effort by other users wasn't wasted by participating, but no, you'd rarely see them. Rather it will be more "I'm a newbie" posts you'd see.

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I don't know if I'd say your statement feels incomplete or whatever I may assume but regarding the topic, the only system in bitcoin that I may define to be disadvantage is the volatility but I'd always take take to be a norms because there's no phase of investment that doesn't face pressures as a major challenge.
Bitcoin is just programmed in such a scalability of encountering increase and decrease but it's sure that its way forward is the direction of increments.
Just keep holding your bitcoin nomatter the phenomenon and you'd always account to the increase values.

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Take it easy bro.

All our life faces  scalability issues (as we need to take care of the next generations), volatility of the cost of living, environmental concerns relating to the life expectancy.

And with all above you can't contend that your live is disadvantage for your. Or you can?

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