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June 25, 2024, 07:50:59 PM
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Did Messi badly performed or was he the problem they never won as much title. Personally, Messi performance was outstanding and him alone can't give them those titles, you don't specifically point out one player out of the team as to why they failed to win trophies. Messi was as of much threat to opponents compared to anyone in the team, he did the best he could but seems the team as a whole were unable make better records as expected

This is not a time for blame games and Messi should not be seen as the main problem in the club. Only Messi cannot do it alone and needs the collective support and efforts of other players in order for the team to succeed. Messi was just a pivotal player in the midst and can change the game but when he tries and the rest of the squad cannot add their own effort, his own effort becomes useless and the whole team will fail again and again.
When Messi left Barcelona, they did won the laliga league title for last year under Xavi , so messi wasn't their problem, they didn't win Champions league for over 3 years when Messi was still in the club before he left for psg.
I think this year flop was due to injuries of their key players even the ones that were playing just recovered from injuries so it was an injury  season for the team not to mention of their financial problem to bring in good players... I think Messi was never their problem...just that Messi was a feared name in Barca whenever they face any opponent  Smiley

In my opinion, Lionel Messi was managing the team like a maestro. He meant a lot to Barcelona and I didn't believe they would send Messi off the team. Messi was their idol. I believed that he would stay in the Catalans until he retired, but I was wrong. If Messi leaves Barcelona and Ronaldo leaves Real Madrid, we cannot say that any team player will definitely stay in a team for the long term.
However, it cannot be denied that Barcelona without Messi will not have much to say on the European stage, whether it is necessary or not, but that is how it is. It cannot be denied that Messi is a differentiating figure on and off the field, and this cannot be denied. Like it or not, like it or not, this is how Barcelona without Lionel Messi finds it increasingly difficult to compete in the UCL League. As a result of Barcelona's mistake of relying too much on one player, that player was bigger than the club. Very different from Real Madrid, even though Ronaldo is no longer at Real Madrid, they are still a team that opponents fear.

Barcelona currently needs time to recover from its downturn, especially with a new coach and financial problems. Of course, Barcelona in the UCL League next season is considered not to be the favorite in the race for the title. I will prioritize Real Madrid and Man City in the fight for the UCL title next season because these two teams have very good squads compared to other teams and have great coaches.

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June 25, 2024, 08:36:34 PM
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I also said that not only Man City some other teams like Liverpool Munich Milan PSG and Arsenal are giving a tough time to teams. But lets wait for the starting of UEFA Champions league 2024/25 season.
The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.

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June 25, 2024, 08:47:58 PM
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I also said that not only Man City some other teams like Liverpool Munich Milan PSG and Arsenal are giving a tough time to teams. But lets wait for the starting of UEFA Champions league 2024/25 season.
The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.

Well this is a common thing as I believe every season the teams do prepare for the next one ahead so I believe there  is no special thing about this. The moment the seasons end every team will try as hard and possible as they can to actually make their team stronger and that's what all the teams are doing now, well for Manchester city the market is not yet over so am still open to see a new addition to their squad.

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June 25, 2024, 08:59:45 PM
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The expectations for Pep and Man City grew so much that them winning the title fourth year in a row and failing to win UCL only because they lost to Real Madrid at quarter finals somehow sounds like it is not good enough, but the reality is that we are talking a team that would consider to be a lot better so we should definitely not approach this like it is a big deal, we should consider this as a normal situation for sure.
I think some of them are banter, some come from 'fans' who believe winning one cup means a season of failure, while the others come from an analysis of their spending. It's fair to demand or set a treble as your target, but they definitely to think again if sacking Pep or something similar is the answer. It doesn't help that recently there's a trend of demanding instant results even if your club doesn't spend as much as City. On the other hand, I do agree that this is probably a good time to focus more on UCL for City. There's no need to focus much on the local cups since they won a lot already. CMIIW.
The fans are not grateful with EPL title, and who told them that City can win it again. It was by luck that City used to win it last year for the first time in history. City is in their best form but they are not improving the form. They are stagnant and if Pep leaves that is when the fans will know that Pep is the best coach they had.

Next season will also be a difficult one for City in the Champions League, they should just hope not to meet  Real Madrid early like this past season, if not they will not go far, because Real Madrid squad is deadly currently with Mbappe.

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June 26, 2024, 12:32:32 PM
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I'm even more surprised to hear this now that Kylian Mbappe disrespected Messi while they were still playing together at PSG because Messi is a very calm player that doesn't quarrel with any of his teammates even when he was playing at Barcelona and most of the time when a penalty is awarded to PSG Messi gives the ball to Mbappe to play the penalty so I'm so confused and even made some research to know if there was actually a time Mbappe disrespected Messi but I haven't seen any. I know Kylian Mbappe to be a proud player but that's simply because he is a good scorer and Messi is more of a play maker when he was in PSG.
The Trio of Neymar Jr, Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi not being able to win the UCL together was pure hard luck of the club and not that the players didn't give their best performance and now that Kylian Mbappe who has been the only strong force in the club have left PSG, I am just wondering how they would be able to cope in the UCL maybe they can even get eliminated in the group stage matches.
I feel like we should not really believe everything we read online. I feel like they may not be great close friends, but I also think that nobody acted unprofessionally towards each other neither. Mbappe didn't like the fact that someone who was a bigger star than him joined the team, and as someone who grew up loving Ronaldo, he hated that it was even Messi, like if it was Ronaldo then maybe he could have been fine, but this was his rival, Messi.

So I do understand why he may not enjoy that moment, and I understand PSG did it without really asking Mbappe, because why should they, they don't have to ask a player on who to buy. But I also understand why a player could be upset about it, but I also believe he did not acted on it and moved on with his job.

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June 26, 2024, 02:29:27 PM
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I also said that not only Man City some other teams like Liverpool Munich Milan PSG and Arsenal are giving a tough time to teams. But lets wait for the starting of UEFA Champions league 2024/25 season.
The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.

Well this is a common thing as I believe every season the teams do prepare for the next one ahead so I believe there  is no special thing about this. The moment the seasons end every team will try as hard and possible as they can to actually make their team stronger and that's what all the teams are doing now, well for Manchester city the market is not yet over so am still open to see a new addition to their squad.
All teams certainly want the best results, but this must also be balanced with their financial strength, where player prices are currently starting to become unreasonable. For big teams, of course they don't have any problems in that regard and they can easily strengthen the depth of their squad. But it also won't run well if you don't have good management.

However, it seems that small teams will still have difficulty competing in the Champions League and again they will be like a minority in big championships. If we talk about Manchester City with their current squad, they are actually still very strong, but sometimes that's not enough if you want to compete for the title again and at least Pep Guardiola knows what his team will need in the future.

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June 26, 2024, 02:42:46 PM
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Next season, UCL will implement a new format that is very different from what we have known so far. This format will place the 36 participants who qualify into just one group and each team will compete eight times. So this will not be the same as a league match where each team has to compete against each other.

New format for Champions League post-2024: Everything you need to know

But with this rule I think every big club like City or Real Madrid will not face any problems and challenges. It is claimed that a format like this will make the match more competitive and each team will have the same opportunity to qualify for the round of 16. And there will no longer be the hardest group and the easiest group in UCL.

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June 26, 2024, 03:56:13 PM
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The fans are not grateful with EPL title, and who told them that City can win it again. It was by luck that City used to win it last year for the first time in history. City is in their best form but they are not improving the form. They are stagnant and if Pep leaves that is when the fans will know that Pep is the best coach they had.

Next season will also be a difficult one for City in the Champions League, they should just hope not to meet  Real Madrid early like this past season, if not they will not go far, because Real Madrid squad is deadly currently with Mbappe.
Always wanting to achieve high achievements, that's what I see from a team's supporters, so that when they don't get what they want, they will be a little disappointed even though they get the domestic league title.
I think they also have to be well aware that in the Champions League everything becomes more difficult. They also just won their first title last season after trying for years. and even Paris Saint Germain, who regularly plays in the Champions League, also finds it very difficult to get, Atletico Madrid also feels the same way.
However, this is very natural because as I said before it will be more prestigious if they succeed in retaining the Champions League title. But it's not easy, only Real Madrid fans in my opinion know what it's like to be the "masters" of the Champions League.

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June 26, 2024, 03:58:24 PM
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The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.

I love it when clubs become very competitive the more it shows that they are actually fulfilling what they are been paid for, because a lot of clubs are trying their best spending money on players and they are not getting results and instead of selling the player they will rather sack the coach sometimes i feel the players are more valuable than even the coach they don't sack players the highest they can do is to sell players but the moment the management is not getting results from the club the next thing they will do is to sack the coach and the club that have falling victim of sacking coaches is Chelsea i hope when they get a new coach they will get what they want. Manchester city are always prepared and will do what is best for them,  arsenal will not go anywhere they might cross the group stage but their is nothing longer for them. it will take arsenal a longer period to get to a convincing point that they will win the champions league. before you know it the champions league have started and this will be the best champions league to have experienced just watch and see because i even feel this battle is going to be between real Madrid and Manchester city this time around.

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June 26, 2024, 04:19:51 PM
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Next season, UCL will implement a new format that is very different from what we have known so far. This format will place the 36 participants who qualify into just one group and each team will compete eight times. So this will not be the same as a league match where each team has to compete against each other.

New format for Champions League post-2024: Everything you need to know

But with this rule I think every big club like City or Real Madrid will not face any problems and challenges. It is claimed that a format like this will make the match more competitive and each team will have the same opportunity to qualify for the round of 16. And there will no longer be the hardest group and the easiest group in UCL.

I think it's a great idea that FIFA came up with. since some clubs believe they're cheating them by placing them in a difficult group where they won't succeed. Now that each club will face a different squad, the competition will be severe because no one likes losing. I like this decision, the Champions League will be more interesting, and Real Madrid and Manchester City are the biggest and toughest teams in the world right now, and I don't think they will suffer in the stages except in the round 16 of the Champions League, and Real Madrid has a tough key player in the team, I don't think even Manchester can get opportunities on them this season, However, because Guadiola is still the coach of Manchester City, he may utilize his common sense to cope with Ancelotti. Since he regularly plays against them in the Champions League. Let's just see how the tournament starts, how everyone performs, and who will most likely get the opportunity to win the competition next.

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June 26, 2024, 04:46:01 PM
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Next season, UCL will implement a new format that is very different from what we have known so far. This format will place the 36 participants who qualify into just one group and each team will compete eight times. So this will not be the same as a league match where each team has to compete against each other.

New format for Champions League post-2024: Everything you need to know

But with this rule I think every big club like City or Real Madrid will not face any problems and challenges. It is claimed that a format like this will make the match more competitive and each team will have the same opportunity to qualify for the round of 16. And there will no longer be the hardest group and the easiest group in UCL.
New Champion League format will adopt for next season make one team will play eight matches in phase round but there are not home and away match but become the league format, recently teams finished as top eight position automatically will qualify to 16 of round and while the teams finishing in 9th to 24th place will face with home and away format to get 8 ticket left for knock out round. Seems not really interested with new format because Champion League will adopt as league format as usually in domestic league, seems easily for any team reach the top six standings place get qualify to direct knock out round.

New format of Champion League will place 36 teams participants than usually has 32 participants separated on 8 groups, but next season not any group phase any more after UEFA change with league competition format.

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I feel like we should not really believe everything we read online. I feel like they may not be great close friends, but I also think that nobody acted unprofessionally towards each other neither. Mbappe didn't like the fact that someone who was a bigger star than him joined the team, and as someone who grew up loving Ronaldo, he hated that it was even Messi, like if it was Ronaldo then maybe he could have been fine, but this was his rival, Messi.

So I do understand why he may not enjoy that moment, and I understand PSG did it without really asking Mbappe, because why should they, they don't have to ask a player on who to buy. But I also understand why a player could be upset about it, but I also believe he did not acted on it and moved on with his job.
Maybe you are right about why Mbappe and Messi were not very united while at PSG, both of them are competitors among the world's best players even though so far Mbappe has never been the best. Messi didn't fail to become a PSG player, it's just that he failed to help PSG win the Champions League title as most of the team's fans expected.

It seems to be true that Kylian Mbappe was never really happy when PSG brought Messi to the team. Even though Messi contributed a lot of assists to Mbappe while at PSG, this didn't change much. Mbappe is a selfish player, not only at PSG but also when he was playing for France. However, I believe he will not get the same treatment at Real Madrid.

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June 26, 2024, 05:50:45 PM
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I also said that not only Man City some other teams like Liverpool Munich Milan PSG and Arsenal are giving a tough time to teams. But lets wait for the starting of UEFA Champions league 2024/25 season.
The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.

When I am thinking of the teams that will do well in the coming champions league season, I don’t include Arsenal amongst them, not because they can’t compete for the league title but their performance isn’t showing that they are capable of achieving that great success in the coming season. We have see how teams like Real Madrid are recouping new players, Manchester City still standing on their existing grounds. Still Bayern Munich that they couldn’t beat last season even though their performance was not so impressive. Is that the Arsenal you think can win the champions league trophy next season? I doubt so, but since anything can happen in football we’ll wait to see if they can actually try and make that a reality and also shut my view about them in the champions league in the coming season.

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New Champion League format will adopt for next season make one team will play eight matches in phase round but there are not home and away match but become the league format, recently teams finished as top eight position automatically will qualify to 16 of round and while the teams finishing in 9th to 24th place will face with home and away format to get 8 ticket left for knock out round. Seems not really interested with new format because Champion League will adopt as league format as usually in domestic league, seems easily for any team reach the top six standings place get qualify to direct knock out round.

New format of Champion League will place 36 teams participants than usually has 32 participants separated on 8 groups, but next season not any group phase any more after UEFA change with league competition format.
The new format of the Champions League certainly makes us curious about whether the Champions League is getting more exciting or actually experiencing a decline in competition in the competition next season, the new format of the Champions League next season adopts the Swiss model which is indeed more dominant use in the game of chess so far, I don't know what the reason for UEFA is changing the format of the competition in the current Champions League but I hope that with the change in the format it will make the competition in the Champions League will the more competitive and not only profitable for he big team later, the new format will be officially used next season and hopefully it will make the Champions League even more interesting to watch.

According to several sources on goggle, the decision to change the format of the Champions League next season is controversial in various parties because it is likely to favor some big teams, including giving two slots to teams that do not qualify for the Champions League through any route but have the highest ranking value based on the UEFA coefficient, so it seems controversial,because UEFA is directly become accomplice of the big clubs.

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June 26, 2024, 08:16:02 PM
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Next season, UCL will implement a new format that is very different from what we have known so far. This format will place the 36 participants who qualify into just one group and each team will compete eight times. So this will not be the same as a league match where each team has to compete against each other.
It is true. UCL will use a new format for the next season. There will be more teams in UCL and there will be more matches. It will be busy that one team plays 8 times, the EPL teams must be very careful to manage their lineup and they need to rotate the players. Since England has many domestic competitions, this new format won't be good news for them.

But with this rule I think every big club like City or Real Madrid will not face any problems and challenges. It is claimed that a format like this will make the match more competitive and each team will have the same opportunity to qualify for the round of 16. And there will no longer be the hardest group and the easiest group in UCL.
The teams with many top players in their squad, it may be fine because they have no problem to rotate their players. But for the teams that their main lineup has a big difference level with their second line up, it can be a serious problem. With more matches in UCL, I think the second lineup of each UCL team will be very useful in the next season.



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The fans are not grateful with EPL title, and who told them that City can win it again. It was by luck that City used to win it last year for the first time in history. City is in their best form but they are not improving the form. They are stagnant and if Pep leaves that is when the fans will know that Pep is the best coach they had.

Next season will also be a difficult one for City in the Champions League, they should just hope not to meet  Real Madrid early like this past season, if not they will not go far, because Real Madrid squad is deadly currently with Mbappe.

Knock it off, what do you mean by luck? They was obviously the best team in the world that season, I do agree with most of your post and I consider you a great poster but this? Manchester City deserved that treble win, the Champions League finals was great and the road to the finals was even more interesting as they went ahead to defeat Real Madrid in the process.

Off course Pep Guardiola is the best coach in the world, I'd put in ahead of Carlo Ancellotti. I don't see City fans fummin over Pep Guardiola, can you send thr link to such post of video.?

I don't see them successfully achieving anything in the Premier League Competition, not even in the Champions League Competition. A side with Josep Pep remains a big side but no!! Real Madrid remains my number one option.

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June 26, 2024, 08:49:45 PM
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The new format of the Champions League certainly makes us curious about whether the Champions League is getting more exciting or actually experiencing a decline in competition in the competition next season, the new format of the Champions League next season adopts the Swiss model which is indeed more dominant use in the game of chess so far, I don't know what the reason for UEFA is changing the format of the competition in the current Champions League but I hope that with the change in the format it will make the competition in the Champions League will the more competitive and not only profitable for he big team later, the new format will be officially used next season and hopefully it will make the Champions League even more interesting to watch.

According to several sources on goggle, the decision to change the format of the Champions League next season is controversial in various parties because it is likely to favor some big teams, including giving two slots to teams that do not qualify for the Champions League through any route but have the highest ranking value based on the UEFA coefficient, so it seems controversial,because UEFA is directly become accomplice of the big clubs.
Regardless of any perceived controversy, I think the Champions League is still very competitive. It's not at all a bad thing when there are changes to make the competition more interesting, but of course not everyone is happy about it.

I actually welcome the adoption of the new format in the Champions League. There are a few additional teams that could qualify for the group stage although this is less expected than the other teams that did not qualify. Moreover, there are rules about how these teams can qualify and they should not be appointed directly by anyone. If this team meets the criteria or conditions, then they should qualify because the conditions are met, not because of the choice of one or two other people.

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The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.
That is just how every team prepares against upcoming season, all teams are getting ready for the fresh season adding more quality to their team to ensure they perform better than last season. Champions League have always been tough right from the very start so next season will definitely be an interesting and challenging season i don’t expect less from the league of champions.

The likes of Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen are all teams we should watch out for because they cannot be underrated this time around. Arsenal seems to be improving every season and Bayern Munich and Leverkusen both have promising coaches now so they are bound to perform better because all eyes will be on them.

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I also said that not only Man City some other teams like Liverpool Munich Milan PSG and Arsenal are giving a tough time to teams. But lets wait for the starting of UEFA Champions league 2024/25 season.
The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.


I think Arsenal are pretty inexperienced in the Champions League, they don't look confident at matches compared to domestic matches, so I don't expect them to get a grand result. The same can't be said about Manchester City, of course they will expect a huge result from such a team. This season they came away in the toughest match they could have won. And since Real Madrid went through, there was no point in watching the final, everything was obvious

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June 26, 2024, 09:34:40 PM
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I also said that not only Man City some other teams like Liverpool Munich Milan PSG and Arsenal are giving a tough time to teams. But lets wait for the starting of UEFA Champions league 2024/25 season.
The next season champion league tournament will be a very tough one then this season due how so many clubs are prepare for the next coming season, apart from the Manchester city there so much teams that are are going to be tough as you mentioned them earlier expecially, a team like arsenal I'm expecting a good outcome from them. Because since there able to win the champion league this season; they want dominate the entire next coming season, and in my view arsenal can make that happen with how they improve their performance better, But nevertheless let us be wait and see what can actually happen in UEFA Champions league we can't make an early predict.

When I am thinking of the teams that will do well in the coming champions league season, I don’t include Arsenal amongst them, not because they can’t compete for the league title but their performance isn’t showing that they are capable of achieving that great success in the coming season. We have see how teams like Real Madrid are recouping new players, Manchester City still standing on their existing grounds. Still Bayern Munich that they couldn’t beat last season even though their performance was not so impressive. Is that the Arsenal you think can win the champions league trophy next season? I doubt so, but since anything can happen in football we’ll wait to see if they can actually try and make that a reality and also shut my view about them in the champions league in the coming season.
This is right time for you to start think a team like arsenal that their capable to meet up next coming season in the champion league, and is not that I'm ok proud or underrate them because with the way Arsenal end this season in premier league it prove that there capable to achieve that great success in champion league up coming season.

I wonder how so much of people's are hype real Madrid and Manchester city like say their only the tough teams in champion league, I hope full hope for arsenal that they won't allowed what to for them this season in should repeat again in next coming season they sure take corrections from there mistake to makes Sure they've they achieve there aim.

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