UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

[Mate2237]

In the Champions League, Real Madrid, in addition to luck, also has the support of the referee, because this team often plays as champions, so in some controversial issues they get an advantage, even as it was in the cancelled penalty of Alvarez, in my opinion it is stupid to cancel such a penalty... So in order to beat Real Madrid, you need to be not only stronger than them. You also need to take into account other circumstances that can affect the result and in the case of Real Madrid, it is not only luck.

Seriously. Nobody will view it the way you did. Sometimes the action in which the ref uses some matches makes people think he supports the other opponents that they see win the match at the moment. Nobody will think about the other way around and how the match went. However, I observe one thing about Real Madrid this season: even as they are not in their best form, they are managing to win many of their matches in the Champions League.

Should I say lucky, or do they struggle to win the matches? But all I know is that they have been trying so hard to see that they succeed in the Champions League competition. However, everything that has been done can’t be undone. Whether the ref was in favour of any mentioned team, there is nothing to do about that.

One thing that you need to know is that referees are human beings so you don't expect them to be hundred percent perfect that is why VAR is there to help the ref out and even some decisions taken by VAR does not even go well with some people, so I don't personally think that no ref will intentionally give a decision that will favour one team by because that will mean that the ref is biased and will bring the entire game to disrepute.


Every referee that you see officiating in matches has gone through different levels of training and has passed through the regulatory processes involved in the awarding of the refereeing licence so each coach is fully aware of their role as a judge in the field of play knowing that there is a regulatory body watching

[lixer]

You have said it all, Luck is what is always on Madrid side. In the group stage, they will struggle to survive and after qualifying to the round of 16, they will start playing in their best performance joined with luck, gives them a upper hand over every other club in UCL. I am expecting to see them in the finals, because it's certain that they will be in the semifinals.

No, you can never win a title with luck. You can win a match with luck, but you can't win a match with luck. In the end, Real Madrid won the match based on their experience. They have the ability to handle the pressure of big matches and they can play great football under pressure in a way that other teams can't. You can call Real Madrid's win against Atletico Madrid based on luck, but I would prefer to call it experience. Real Madrid was lucky in that match but luck was not the main reason for the win. In the trybreaker, Real Madrid used their experience and appealed for Alvarez's goal to be disallowed, where they succeeded. This single goal was the main reason for changing the outcome of the match.

I disagree with this a bit. You can win "one" match with luck, maybe even two. But you can't win the title by luck, because it requires so many games to get there. You first play 8 games at the group stages, depending on your result you either finish within first eight, or you finish outside and play 2 more games.

You play last sixteen, you play quarter finals and you play semi finals, all of them from two games six more games. Then you have final game that you have to win. So by logic, you have 15-17 games that you need to play and while a few of them could be based on luck, not all of them could be based on luck. Real Madrid could get lucky and win against a team, but they can't get lucky and win the title by pure luck.

[Adbitco]

After the group stage PSG had formal games with Brest, while Real beat City twice with an aggregate score of 6-3. Then PSG beat Liverpool in a penalty shootout, and Real beat Atletico, also in a penalty shootout. I see that Real had a more difficult path and that they showed better consistency. Don't you think so? If Real had any problems against Atletico it was because of the referees, while PSG had their own problems converting chances in the game against Liverpool.

Every match played by the teams you mentioned, actually all of them are the same, namely they get strong opponents. However, if we talk specifically about Real Madrid, they do seem to get more balanced opponents and even in their less good situation. However, in La Liga itself they can still be quite good because they are still in the competition at the top, but even so they do not look like the previous season. Maybe this is because they usually perform well and in the Champions League itself we know they are the team with the most titles.

I think it was not easy for the opponents. Right now they will play Arsenal in the Champions League. The team they eliminated is Atletico Madrid. Besides, Atletico Madrid played better than Real Madrid throughout the match and lost on penalties. So I can say that they were unlucky. If they had been a little luckier, they could have eliminated Real Madrid from the tournament. Luck was on Real Madrid's side and they were the team that advanced on penalties. Right now they still have a claim in the Champions League and Arsenal is a strong team. I don't think Real Madrid has an advantage in fixtures.

Point of correction, Atletico Madrid were better than Real Madrid in some parts of the match but not throughout the match. Real Madrid were better in the second half and most parts of the extra. In summary, Real Madrid were better just that they didn't create much chances as Atletico did in the second leg of that match, that was the edge Atletico Madrid had over Real Madrid. You can actually rewatch the game again to see that. Atletico got lucky when Vini missed that penalty that would have ended the game in 90 minutes instead of extra time.

[Huppercase]

Every match played by the teams you mentioned, actually all of them are the same, namely they get strong opponents. However, if we talk specifically about Real Madrid, they do seem to get more balanced opponents and even in their less good situation. However, in La Liga itself they can still be quite good because they are still in the competition at the top, but even so they do not look like the previous season. Maybe this is because they usually perform well and in the Champions League itself we know they are the team with the most titles.

If not that Atletico couldn't exert more pressure on Real Madrid, by now would have gone out of the league but they tried to balance their game which was what help them in the penalty. The advantage Real Madrid had in winning the match was because Courtois is tall and experienced is why he was able to make plenty of saves that day and Alvarez mistake made it worse else I believe Real Madrid will be out of this stage, it's more like luck in my opinion.

Their next match is going to be easy for them, Arsenal isn't the kind of people that can humble Real Madrid, they will get away with. The only team that can stop them and only hope is PSG, that's if they don't fumble that day, there were times they have met and they removed them without much stress even when Messi and Neymar combine with Mbape but who knows if Mbape will be on another level that day to face his formal club, it's going to be epic and action.

[Berry2d]

Drawing conclusions on the game against Arsenal in the coming month with Real Madrid is one of the most impossible thing to do because from previous games the both teams played,  Arsenal did very well against Real Madrid so it's not advisable to write off Arsenal on that game just because of Real Madrid's current form. football is an unpredictable game whose result turns the way one can't imagine so let's look up to the end because it is only the end that can justify.

[Felicity_Tide]

You have said it all, Luck is what is always on Madrid side. In the group stage, they will struggle to survive and after qualifying to the round of 16, they will start playing in their best performance joined with luck, gives them a upper hand over every other club in UCL. I am expecting to see them in the finals, because it's certain that they will be in the semifinals.

I disagree with this a bit. You can win "one" match with luck, maybe even two. But you can't win the title by luck, because it requires so many games to get there. You first play 8 games at the group stages, depending on your result you either finish within first eight, or you finish outside and play 2 more games.

You play last sixteen, you play quarter finals and you play semi finals, all of them from two games six more games. Then you have final game that you have to win. So by logic, you have 15-17 games that you need to play and while a few of them could be based on luck, not all of them could be based on luck. Real Madrid could get lucky and win against a team, but they can't get lucky and win the title by pure luck.

Is there such thing as luck in football?, well, that I can not tell. But one thing that I know for sure is that the team that takes/capitalize on their chances ends up winning the game.

Check the last two champion's league that Madrid won. They where not even the best team across Europe that season, but just because they have a very brilliant attack that knows how to put the ball at the back of the net no matter how difficult it is, they where able to secure the trophy.

Take Manchester city for example, in their treble season. They where not the team with the best defense in Europe, but they ended up winning the treble. Why is that?, because they understand that scoring the necessary/important goals gives you a point or win you something. That's why when you see Manchester City conceding 3 goals in a game, then you should know that they've also scored more than 3 goals to win that game. That's the logic. Score more goals than your opponent to win your game. And that has also been the madrid's pattern. As long as they are still in the competition, they will continue to fight until they get more goals than you even if it's just by a margin.

[Egii Nna]

After the group stage PSG had formal games with Brest, while Real beat City twice with an aggregate score of 6-3. Then PSG beat Liverpool in a penalty shootout, and Real beat Atletico, also in a penalty shootout. I see that Real had a more difficult path and that they showed better consistency. Don't you think so? If Real had any problems against Atletico it was because of the referees, while PSG had their own problems converting chances in the game against Liverpool.

Every match played by the teams you mentioned, actually all of them are the same, namely they get strong opponents. However, if we talk specifically about Real Madrid, they do seem to get more balanced opponents and even in their less good situation. However, in La Liga itself they can still be quite good because they are still in the competition at the top, but even so they do not look like the previous season. Maybe this is because they usually perform well and in the Champions League itself we know they are the team with the most titles.

Why did you say that Real Madrid don’t seem to get more balanced opponents? Did you forget that their last opponent was Atlético Madrid, and before then they played against Manchester City? Are these two teams not balanced, or am I mistaken about your point? We all know that Real Madrid's performance is not as strong as we all expected it to be this season, as they signed Mbappé, but still they are trying their best, and their performance is still not bad because not even in the Champions League but even in La Liga and other leagues they are trying their best, and if they are able to perform better, they might even have a possibility of winning the championship of the Champions League this season again and even La Liga, as anything can happen in football.

[red4slash]

After the group stage PSG had formal games with Brest, while Real beat City twice with an aggregate score of 6-3. Then PSG beat Liverpool in a penalty shootout, and Real beat Atletico, also in a penalty shootout. I see that Real had a more difficult path and that they showed better consistency. Don't you think so? If Real had any problems against Atletico it was because of the referees, while PSG had their own problems converting chances in the game against Liverpool.

Those in the play offs also have problems in terms of rotation because obviously there are more matches which makes it difficult for them to perform but when talking about previous matches if we compare then indeed Madrid seems to be more difficult because Manchester City and Atletico are clearly not easy opponents even up to 120 minutes in the last 16 that requires more energy even though PSG also faces a crucial match against Liverpool.

It's just that from this we can see a much more awake mentality because after all this is an important point that can be taken so that regardless of how and who their opponents face but when the mentality is well maintained then in the end this will provide a good boost for Madrid and PSG.
Now that the quarter-finals are in sight, the competition in domestic competitions is also still ongoing so they should not relax their enthusiasm because the slightest mistake can have an impact on the performance that makes them lose.

[iamsange]

Let's face it, Real Madrid is always and always will be the team to beat, it's too strong, it's always been strong and it always will be as long as Florentino Perez invests in the team, the fact that it's so full of champions is incredible and it amazes me more and more every year how they manage to always have such a competitive team

Real Madrid's performance in the Champions League has always been different to the point that it has made some people wonder and in fact it has been proven through the 15 Champions League trophies that Real Madrid have won until last season. As for this season I also have no doubt that Real Madrid will continue to perform well in the quarter-final match even though the opponent that Real Madrid will face is Arsenal who should also not be underestimated by Real Madrid even though I am not sure that Arsenal will make Real Madrid lose in two legs in the quarter-finals of the Champions League this season.

[Ale88]

Is there such thing as luck in football?, well, that I can not tell. But one thing that I know for sure is that the team that takes/capitalize on their chances ends up winning the game.

Of course there is luck in football. I understand it's not something you can actually touch or see but there are teams that, in general, are luckier than others. We were talking about Real Madrid, it's extremely difficult to see Real Madrid getting a red card, a disallowed goal or even an injury to their best players. It could be that the referees are scared of RM, it could be they get some type of "suggestions", I don't know, but all this, for me, falls under the "luck" category.

[cryptoWODL]

I know that Paris Saint-Germain lost to Liverpool when Liverpool visited them at home, but the most important thing is that Paris Saint-Germain was the team that advanced to the quarterfinals of the UEFA Champions League competition. Liverpool is very used to playing against Premier League clubs, and since they are dominating the Premier League this season, it will be difficult for Premier League clubs to travel to Anfield and dominate Liverpool the way Paris Saint-Germain did, but Nottingham Forest traveled to Anfield, and they beat Liverpool this season. Paris Saint-Germain was better than Liverpool when they played against each other, and that put Paris Saint-Germain in a position to pull out that amazing performance against Liverpool.

Yes, when Liverpool was visiting their home ground, Paris Saint -Germain was defeated against Liverpool. In fact through that match, we saw that Paris Saint-Germain has now been able to form a very balanced team. Moreover as you mentioned that Liverpool is very accustomed to playing with the Premier League clubs, it may not be perfect because in my opinion Liverpool are accustomed to playing with the Champions League clubs. Can you imagine that before they were defeated in the round of 16, Liverpool Football Club was doing very well in the Champions League, and if I'm not mistaken, they were probably at the top of the standings.

[Obari]

Let's face it, Real Madrid is always and always will be the team to beat, it's too strong, it's always been strong and it always will be as long as Florentino Perez invests in the team, the fact that it's so full of champions is incredible and it amazes me more and more every year how they manage to always have such a competitive team

Real Madrid are fierce and outstanding in eery tournaments they've featured in. Real Madrid have been the very best competitive team, been able to indulge in streak winnings and lifting trophies like seasonal routines for them. Real Madrid president, Florentino Pérez had a good chance to continue elevating the standards of the club. The president is quite different from other clubs president. He's not in a rush, and do take his time to execute his plans. Real Madrid are what they are today because of Florentino Pérez crucial planning, alot have happen under his watch.

[promise444c5]

Drawing conclusions on the game against Arsenal in the coming month with Real Madrid is one of the most impossible thing to do because from previous games the both teams played,  Arsenal did very well against Real Madrid so it's not advisable to write off Arsenal on that game just because of Real Madrid's current form. football is an unpredictable game whose result turns the way one can't imagine so let's look up to the end because it is only the end that can justify.

That was previous head to head decision, with it we can always come to conclusion that Asernal are likey to play better but checking how both has been performing in the UCL and in their leagues then we could come up with a better conclusion yet this is UCL and it's not like an early stage.. Elimination stage is no joke, every team fights to keep it and in their situation I don't see Realmadrid having it easy besides, Realmadrid is not that in form this season..

[uchegod-21]

Drawing conclusions on the game against Arsenal in the coming month with Real Madrid is one of the most impossible thing to do because from previous games the both teams played,  Arsenal did very well against Real Madrid so it's not advisable to write off Arsenal on that game just because of Real Madrid's current form. football is an unpredictable game whose result turns the way one can't imagine so let's look up to the end because it is only the end that can justify.

That was previous head to head decision, with it we can always come to conclusion that Asernal are likey to play better but checking how both has been performing in the UCL and in their leagues then we could come up with a better conclusion yet this is UCL and it's not like an early stage.. Elimination stage is no joke, every team fights to keep it and in their situation I don't see Realmadrid having it easy besides, Realmadrid is not that in form this season..

From the current form and the playing styles of both teams it is not difficult to draw a conclusion in the meeting between Real Madrid and Arsenal. Arsenal has not been prolific in the Champions League unlike Real Madrid who is considered as the best as long as Champions League is concerned. It will take Arsenal and extraordinary work to eliminate Real Madrid why it will take Real Madrid just a little bit of consistency to do it against Arsenal.

I will not advise any gambler to risk it Arsenal against Real Madrid. Although it has been long these clubs meet, so it is possible that Arsenal will want to throw up a surprise, but it will be a kind of difficult for them.

[Mayor of ogba]

In the Champions League, Real Madrid, in addition to luck, also has the support of the referee, because this team often plays as champions, so in some controversial issues they get an advantage, even as it was in the cancelled penalty of Alvarez, in my opinion it is stupid to cancel such a penalty... So in order to beat Real Madrid, you need to be not only stronger than them. You also need to take into account other circumstances that can affect the result and in the case of Real Madrid, it is not only luck.

In the Champions League it is not true that Real Madrid also has the support of the referees in addition to luck.
He was lucky, there's no denying that, especially on penalties.
It is important to consider the circumstances that can influence the outcome, but i don't think the referees are corrup

Real Madrid is loved by few and hated by many, so I wasn't surprised that Cryptmuster said Real Madrid has the support of the referee that led them to beat Atletico Madrid in a penalty shootout in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid. I didn't watch the Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid match, but when I watched the highlight of the match and they showed Alvarez when he was taking his penalty in slow motion, there was evidence that the ball touched Alvarez's second foot. Even some football experts agreed that Alvarez's second foot touched the ball, but since Real Madrid is hated by many football fans, they just believe that Real Madrid robbed the match.

[shogun47]

In the Champions League, Real Madrid, in addition to luck, also has the support of the referee, because this team often plays as champions, so in some controversial issues they get an advantage, even as it was in the cancelled penalty of Alvarez, in my opinion it is stupid to cancel such a penalty... So in order to beat Real Madrid, you need to be not only stronger than them. You also need to take into account other circumstances that can affect the result and in the case of Real Madrid, it is not only luck.

In the Champions League it is not true that Real Madrid also has the support of the referees in addition to luck.
He was lucky, there's no denying that, especially on penalties.
It is important to consider the circumstances that can influence the outcome, but i don't think the referees are corrup

Real Madrid is loved by few and hated by many, so I wasn't surprised that Cryptmuster said Real Madrid has the support of the referee that led them to beat Atletico Madrid in a penalty shootout in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid. I didn't watch the Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid match, but when I watched the highlight of the match and they showed Alvarez when he was taking his penalty in slow motion, there was evidence that the ball touched Alvarez's second foot. Even some football experts agreed that Alvarez's second foot touched the ball, but since Real Madrid is hated by many football fans, they just believe that Real Madrid robbed the match.

In this individual scene of football, unlikely that the referees were preferring Real Madrid over Atletico. That was a VAR thing that ruled based on the existing rules and these rules say that touching the ball twice invalidates the kick and the shooter is out. It can be long discussed what to think about that rule, but this has nothing to do with Real Madrid having power.

But Real Madrid has power and there have been many moments in the history of Real Madrid that you can call lucky. I don't think it is as one sided as you say regarding their fans. I think there are a lot of fans loving Real Madrid and yes there are haters, but every successful club has haters or who consider Real Madrid their nemesis, like Barcelona fans.

Referee decisions have been a problem, but not only for Real Madrid. But you can see that Real Madrid lacks the uprightness when some player wins a reward and they disagree. That is bad for the best club in the world. Kids watch it and Real Marid wants to demonstrate power and I think that's not good.

[blue Snow]

Real Madrid's performance in the Champions League has always been different to the point that it has made some people wonder and in fact it has been proven through the 15 Champions League trophies that Real Madrid have won until last season. As for this season I also have no doubt that Real Madrid will continue to perform well in the quarter-final match even though the opponent that Real Madrid will face is Arsenal who should also not be underestimated by Real Madrid even though I am not sure that Arsenal will make Real Madrid lose in two legs in the quarter-finals of the Champions League this season.

The Champions League title is almost everything for Madrid, they'll fight it even if they have to sacrifice another league for their purpose. Ancelotti is a very experienced coach in that situation. He will willing to ignore any league in order to strengthen its strategy. he keeps his ultimate strategy for the summit match. he keeps it so, that no one will know when Real Madrid playing in the finals. I think Arteta knows that, he shouldn't underestimate Ancelotti and be careful to deal with him. So far, Arsenal is not favorite on this situation based on what they did on premier league, while Real Madrid, everyone know, they squad was filling up football stars on the world which can be mission impossible for Arsenal go to next stage.

[Jatiluhung]

surprises can happen and I want to know your predictions about the match? but I saw on Google like this.

It's like trap from bookies as Arsenal are not as strong as Real Madrid in Champions League. They need to be confident about their capability but it's not enough to beat Real Madrid. Arsenal can feel that they can do the same as PSG did with Liverpool in round of 16, but in Champions League, Liverpool and Real Madrid are at different levels too. If Arsenal can not beat Liverpool (in Premier League), it's more impossible or less likely they are able to beat Real Madrid in Champions League. Real Madrid are stronger, more experienced and Arsenal will have big pressure when playing with Real Madrid. It won't be good foundation for their chance of beating Real Madrid.

 

yes, if you think about it, it's like a bookie trap because I also see Real Madrid will definitely be superior in any aspect when facing Arsenal later, and I also remember in Arsenal's last match against PSV the result was 2-2 and of course that indicates that Arsenal's performance was also declining at that time and of course if they didn't score many goals in the first leg then they might not have advanced to the quarter-finals.

but what is certain is that I also have the same feeling as you because I am more inclined to choose Real Madrid as the winner in the Real Madrid vs Arsenal match. but of course as the host Arsenal will definitely perform optimally in this match and of course they don't want to be embarrassed by Real Madrid and of course this match will definitely be exciting because both teams definitely want to win and of course Arteta and Ancelotti will make their best strategy to win. but it is true that of course Real Madrid's experience in the UCL is not in doubt and they always play well. yeah, let's just see later, hopefully we will all be lucky when betting later.

[KTChampions]

His actually right though, Real Madrid got more difficult opponents than the other teams. In the play offs, Real Madrid got Manchester City by every chance this was the biggest game of the play off stages. Round 16, Real Madrid got Atletico Madrid, PSG got Liverpool and Bayern Munich got Bayern Leverkusen. Real Madrid again got one of the toughest opponents again. This time around, Bayern Munich got Inter Milan and Real Madrid got Arsenal. Real Madrid is still paired with one tough opponent again. If Real Madrid qualifies, they will likely fact PSG which is another tough opponent. So the thing is, Real Madrid has got more tougher opponents than all the other teams.

If you look at the stats over the last 10 years, Real Madrid have always had a crazy run in the playoffs. I saw a tweet with an infographic recently, but you can just look at each season separately and check for yourself. If I remember correctly, they've literally had a couple of easy opponents over the years. Usually it's something like PSG - Liverpool - Chelsea - City or Liverpool - Bayern - Juventus - PSG.
From a purely statistical point of view, this looks strange, especially compared to other teams that get several easy opponents in one season.

[Olatundespo]

His actually right though, Real Madrid got more difficult opponents than the other teams. In the play offs, Real Madrid got Manchester City by every chance this was the biggest game of the play off stages. Round 16, Real Madrid got Atletico Madrid, PSG got Liverpool and Bayern Munich got Bayern Leverkusen. Real Madrid again got one of the toughest opponents again. This time around, Bayern Munich got Inter Milan and Real Madrid got Arsenal. Real Madrid is still paired with one tough opponent again. If Real Madrid qualifies, they will likely fact PSG which is another tough opponent. So the thing is, Real Madrid has got more tougher opponents than all the other teams.

If you look at the stats over the last 10 years, Real Madrid have always had a crazy run in the playoffs. I saw a tweet with an infographic recently, but you can just look at each season separately and check for yourself. If I remember correctly, they've literally had a couple of easy opponents over the years. Usually it's something like PSG - Liverpool - Chelsea - City or Liverpool - Bayern - Juventus - PSG.
From a purely statistical point of view, this looks strange, especially compared to other teams that get several easy opponents in one season.

That's why in the upcoming matches, any team that Real Madrid will face will crush them. Because they need to win and they are used to attacking football. After defeating Atletico Madrid their desire to win is getting stronger and Mbappe will give more destructive football to the opponent defense. He had to teach himself a lot to set himself up at Real Madrid and Ancelotti had to work hard to coordinate with his teammates. I think the fans want to have more confidence in Real Madrid this season and they want to win the trophy.