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June 07, 2024, 11:45:46 AM
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Each time I visit some physical betting shop in my country, I usually observe how some elderly people make use of computers. I live in a country where most people 55 years and above don't have basic computer education. Many of them cannot use the mouse, keyboard, or other parts of the computer. This might be because most of them have not been exposed to computer education.

However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?
People who are gambling online are probably doing already something else online, like messaging trough apps, and contacting their grandchildren who are often so naturally tech-savvy they prefer to communicate via apps then via phone. Then there are bank apps to pay their bills with. Old people that i know don't really want to go physically to banks anymore, and if they have problems with their computers,  the helpdesk comes to visit them if needed.

And if you are talking about the browser interface, it's more exceptional then not for them to have a facebook or other kind of account to be in contact of their "group" of people (like hobby, or what ever that group is). That doesn't make them good with computers, but i can't see why gambling would either. Old people can get lonely and when they see they can get into communities in the internet, it's really addictive for them.

And people who avoid all online activity are starting to be such a small minority, that they really aren't a problem to anyone else then some services that need to have mortar and brick offices designed specially for them.

So i don't really think that gambling specifically from all things is in any key element when old people learn about computers. And again, gambling online isn't about computers, it's not about software either, but about very specific sofware, as in browser user interface of a casino.

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June 07, 2024, 11:51:29 AM
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What are your thoughts?
Is it something that makes the community better? I think not because its use is only limited to fulfilling how to gamble online, not something that can make older people more productive or make more money, you can see how older people use Android or mobile phones that can connect to the internet but their use is limited to communication unless they are technology lovers who will try to keep up with the times.
There will be a chance that elderly will also be able to use computers for productive things and make money from it, but you can see from the many people who use it, maybe only less than 10% will eventually be able to turn it into something more useful and profitable, not just as a way to continue can place bets online.

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June 07, 2024, 11:57:17 AM
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, in my opinion it's not entirely true that online gambling can increase education or computer knowledge because most people do online gambling, it seems they use cellphones because it is more practical and can be done anywhere they do it.

for the younger generation, I think your thinking is right. But for generations who are behind and don't keep up with technological developments, it will be quite difficult to operate computer devices.
In cases like that, they will usually prefer physical casinos to online casinos. that's because they don't want to learn to operate a computer which is considered difficult, but actually if you teach them with a little effort, these gamblers can easily memorize how to operate an online casino.

if you hang out with online gamblers, it will become commonplace. but with older people with a habit of gambling in physical casinos, you have to explain very slowly.

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June 07, 2024, 12:22:31 PM
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, in my opinion it's not entirely true that online gambling can increase education or computer knowledge because most people do online gambling, it seems they use cellphones because it is more practical and can be done anywhere they do it.

for the younger generation, I think your thinking is right. But for generations who are behind and don't keep up with technological developments, it will be quite difficult to operate computer devices.
In cases like that, they will usually prefer physical casinos to online casinos. that's because they don't want to learn to operate a computer which is considered difficult, but actually if you teach them with a little effort, these gamblers can easily memorize how to operate an online casino.

if you hang out with online gamblers, it will become commonplace. but with older people with a habit of gambling in physical casinos, you have to explain very slowly.
This is exactly the point I was trying to communicate and many people have been misconceiving it. Some of them are even asking for some pictures to prove that I saw an elderly person in a gambling shop. I see them almost every day l go to this betting shop, and I wonder how they will feel if I tell them that I want to snap and use their picture in a forum. Even if their faces are blurred, it looks disrespectful based on our social beliefs. Most of them are even keeping their gambling activities secret to avoid unnecessary stigma. They failed to understand the main point of the thread which is clearly written as the title.

Thank you @Awaklara, for understanding my point. To the younger generation who are used to technological tools operating a computer or phone looks normal. But to many elderly people, it is not easy because they are not exposed to it. So my position is that some of them put effort into learning computer operations because they need to gamble online. And because these online casinos have computers, these elderly gamblers will practice and improve their computer skills. And the bet shop attendants have been also nice to teach these elders how to use the computer.

My point was that the presence of online gambling has helped these set of older generations to learn computer operations. The contribution might not be big but they exist.

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June 07, 2024, 12:37:55 PM
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, in my opinion it's not entirely true that online gambling can increase education or computer knowledge because most people do online gambling, it seems they use cellphones because it is more practical and can be done anywhere they do it.

for the younger generation, I think your thinking is right. But for generations who are behind and don't keep up with technological developments, it will be quite difficult to operate computer devices.
In cases like that, they will usually prefer physical casinos to online casinos. that's because they don't want to learn to operate a computer which is considered difficult, but actually if you teach them with a little effort, these gamblers can easily memorize how to operate an online casino.

if you hang out with online gamblers, it will become commonplace. but with older people with a habit of gambling in physical casinos, you have to explain very slowly.
The most important thing, as you mentioned, is to teach, of course, this will require the time and effort of the person who will teach. I recently taught my grandfather to use a tablet, at first it was very difficult, but then, literally after 2 hours, he learned a lot. It’s the same in gambling, the main thing is to be able to make deposits and withdraw, and to switch your brain to the fact that this is a virtual table and players with real money. Of course, such people will miss click at first, so it makes sense not to immediately let them into games with real money, but to practice on a demo account. And only when we are convinced that they are successfully interacting there, then, under close control, open bets with real money for them. Only I would consider options with restrictions so that you cannot lose more than a certain amount per day.

 
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June 07, 2024, 03:24:10 PM
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Most of them are even keeping their gambling activities secret to avoid unnecessary stigma. They failed to understand the main point of the thread which is clearly written as the title.
It does have to do with privacy that must be maintained, even though in disguise,
gambling places can still be known and when you don't ask permission to do that you are violating their privacy.
gambling is also very sensitive and sometimes does not want anyone to know about the gambling activities that are being carried out.

My point was that the presence of online gambling has helped these set of older generations to learn computer operations. The contribution might not be big but they exist.
It will make people who are old enough to use computers in gambling.
It will look quite difficult at first, but if they get used to it, they will be able to use it independently.

This did improve their skills, but most importantly they could know what they were doing.
But not only the older generation, others who are easier also need knowledge about the operation of more modern gambling.

 
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June 08, 2024, 06:15:53 AM
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, in my opinion it's not entirely true that online gambling can increase education or computer knowledge because most people do online gambling, it seems they use cellphones because it is more practical and can be done anywhere they do it.

for the younger generation, I think your thinking is right. But for generations who are behind and don't keep up with technological developments, it will be quite difficult to operate computer devices.
In cases like that, they will usually prefer physical casinos to online casinos. that's because they don't want to learn to operate a computer which is considered difficult, but actually if you teach them with a little effort, these gamblers can easily memorize how to operate an online casino.

if you hang out with online gamblers, it will become commonplace. but with older people with a habit of gambling in physical casinos, you have to explain very slowly.

Currently, I think young people certainly have the desire to be able to operate computers, because nowadays gadgets and the internet are developing, making them want to master the internet world, one of which is by owning a computer. Apart from that, of course they have their own reasons and goals as to why they want to master computers, but if we talk about online gambling, I don't think it can improve computer education, even though they are said to be left behind, it doesn't mean that by doing online gambling they will get a good education in terms of computers. Also I think there is almost no one who doesn't keep up with the times, because almost everyone has a cell phone which has become a basic need for everyone nowadays.

It's true what you said, hanging out with online gamblers has certainly become commonplace and is no longer strange because I think that nowadays there are lots of people who gamble online, even in every gathering of young people there must be one or two people who are already familiar with online gambling. , I even dared to ask every young person gathered about online gambling and I think they definitely know and know about it and even really like doing it.

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But there is  the reverse side of this computer-education-medal. Nowadays you will not be  surprise  meeting the kids with the knowledge in computer science that beats yours. Computer became the routine of any children, virtually. Thus having easy access to computers plus being keen to them  they have the potential to be involved into    gambling from the very early ages.

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June 08, 2024, 11:20:38 AM
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Each time I visit some physical betting shop in my country, I usually observe how some elderly people make use of computers. I live in a country where most people 55 years and above don't have basic computer education. Many of them cannot use the mouse, keyboard, or other parts of the computer. This might be because most of them have not been exposed to computer education.

However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?
This is very correct,  there have been rapid increase in computer usage in my country too due to gambling self-services. In the various physical shops, there are usually computers stationed for customers to analyse matches, book their games and also check live scores. Even the elderly who had no prior knowledge of computer have, due to gambling, known how to do the basic things with a computer.  I'm usually amazed at how fast and efficient most of them are in learning and using the computer respectively.  At least we can call this a positive development occasioned by the proliferation of physical gambling shops.

Guys, you are quite right about this because I was at a land base casino one day when some came to bet on the games he has already predicted. On the process of doing his thing in that casino, he met his friend sitting close to the monitor and booking his own games and they both met, after exchanging pleasantries, the man that came there to bet asked his friend to teach him how to use the computer to book games too and the friend agreed. That's to say that the man will gain a new knowledge about booking game with the computer from that day.
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However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?
computers are widely used worldwide so it is inevitable to happen, especially if the hobby or things they are interested in can or can only be accessed through computers. I for one learned how to use a computer because I am interested in online games, it is the same for the older people you mentioned, their interests(which is gambling) can be accessed through a computer so they learned how to use it. People will adapt to new technologies if they need to, it is not surprising that the older generation knows how to use computers.

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June 09, 2024, 07:49:54 AM
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However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?
computers are widely used worldwide so it is inevitable to happen, especially if the hobby or things they are interested in can or can only be accessed through computers. I for one learned how to use a computer because I am interested in online games, it is the same for the older people you mentioned, their interests(which is gambling) can be accessed through a computer so they learned how to use it. People will adapt to new technologies if they need to, it is not surprising that the older generation knows how to use computers.
Exactly! Everyone can adopt the modern technology and using of gadgets especially now that every thing needs technology, even if a person are not used in using computers, like oldies who didn't know how to use basics in cp or computers, they have no choice but to learn how to properly use it so that they can go along with others and do whatever they want with the help of technology. Not just in gambling, but also in other things, we need to adapt the changes in our society so we can survive in life.



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June 09, 2024, 08:34:43 AM
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Each time I visit some physical betting shop in my country, I usually observe how some elderly people make use of computers. I live in a country where most people 55 years and above don't have basic computer education. Many of them cannot use the mouse, keyboard, or other parts of the computer. This might be because most of them have not been exposed to computer education.
wondering why the need of computer to bet? and how come that the player or bettor need to use the computer just to make a bet for their games? can you please elaborate something about why in betting sites has this kind of happening?
because in my country if there is someone needs to bet then there is representative to assist and take the bet or bet directly in table where you wanted to gamble , but in yours there seems to be a different scenarios .


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However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?
What gambling houses are you referring here mate? that those elders need to use computers  or mouses and keyboards just to make bets .
was wondering what kind of motions there are in your physical shops.

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In other words computer usage than education. That is at least something as compared to zero computer knowledge among the older population which is common even in today's world with the increasing number of tech-related scams that proliferate in many countries.

Although being able to use a computer might provoke that person to learn more about computers and eventually this might have even better outcomes than gambling only.

The first cyber cafes that existed in many countries meant that people would visit them for getting articles from the net or play games or some other stuff (ahem, ahem Grin). Same thing can be compared to this older generation in this manner.

 
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June 09, 2024, 06:00:57 PM
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Each time I visit some physical betting shop in my country, I usually observe how some elderly people make use of computers. I live in a country where most people 55 years and above don't have basic computer education. Many of them cannot use the mouse, keyboard, or other parts of the computer. This might be because most of them have not been exposed to computer education.

However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?

I can't relate to that in any way because where I live people over 50 most comfortable with computer usage but if it's above 70 then you might be right but on the contrary they also don't think gambling is any fun and anyone who does is lazy might be due to cultural difference. Cheesy

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In most of the countries, the elderly people aren’t aware of how to operate a computer. In my country, these people don’t gamble either. So I don’t think that online gambling has helped them to learn about computers, at least not in my country. For the old people, the only concern is how they will work hard and save for their retired lives. At this point in their lives, I hardly doubt anyone will do gambling. Yes, only the rich people at the old age do gambling, and they automatically have the knowledge about the computers, I must say.

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In most of the countries, the elderly people aren’t aware of how to operate a computer. In my country, these people don’t gamble either. So I don’t think that online gambling has helped them to learn about computers, at least not in my country. For the old people, the only concern is how they will work hard and save for their retired lives. At this point in their lives, I hardly doubt anyone will do gambling. Yes, only the rich people at the old age do gambling, and they automatically have the knowledge about the computers, I must say.
I agree with you, it is the same down here in my country. The old people don't use online casinos to gamble but they will prefer an offline casino or they play Lotto. If you see any old person using computer, it means that person already knows how to use the computer before old age.

The extent at which young people are gambling is not the same with the old ones, few old men gambles and they are only doing it for fun, because they are use to gambling and love gambling. If not you will not see them gambling, maybe it is different in some countries. Computer has become a basic need in our generation.

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June 09, 2024, 07:04:35 PM
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I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?
I do not think you are correct about this. There was a time you will not see computer in the bank and other places. But today you can see computer in basic schools. Computers and phones that perform the functions of computer are common these days. The reason more people use computers today more is because of how computers are now common in the society and not because of gambling.
We are in a dynamic era and hence computers and digital devices are becoming soo important and useful overtime to the extent that they are actually transiting from the stage of secondary or tertiary needs to primary needs. The fact is people have to adapt. Online gambling has a vast majority of audience ranging from younger to older people with a greater percentage of their users being younger gamblers.
Personally I am of the opinion that online gambling didn't come to wipe off or replace regular traditional casino Gambling but rather it came as a more convenient alternative for gamblers. The fact is even with the present level of computer adoption, some gamblers still prefer offline gambling.

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June 09, 2024, 07:10:07 PM
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Dont get me wrong, but I know lots of elder people Cheesy (nope, I am not old, I am just friendly and communicative) I think that among them, nobody gamble online, nor offline. Maybe they gamble for fun with grandchildren, but I doubt that they gamble. We are in time, when a person, who is considered as old, is already able to use PC on higher than beginner level. When PC became available for many? 30 years ago? They are not miracle that require education. Anyway, those elder people who use PC, use them for social media, and for planning their vacation mostly.

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June 09, 2024, 07:15:17 PM
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Necessity is the mother of invention. Wink
In its own strange way this is a positive aspect of gambling. Yes, people become educated when a need arises. They can quickly learn new tricks, especially when they crave something. For instance drug addicts learn advanced chemistry, thieves learn to pick locks and run fast and car thieves build electronic devices that make car think the key is inside the cabin. Is that really a good aspect that someone is learning something new to later turn it into addiction or to break the law?
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In most of the countries, the elderly people aren’t aware of how to operate a computer. In my country, these people don’t gamble either. So I don’t think that online gambling has helped them to learn about computers, at least not in my country. For the old people, the only concern is how they will work hard and save for their retired lives. At this point in their lives, I hardly doubt anyone will do gambling. Yes, only the rich people at the old age do gambling, and they automatically have the knowledge about the computers, I must say.
This does sound strange when talking about old people or the elderly becoming interested in learning computers because they want to gamble, I don't think they have such desires at the end of their lives, and maybe it's true as you say only rich old people do it because they must have at least had access to computers in their youth.

Just imagine an old person who has less physical abilities, from myopic eyes, less energy, less memory and many other things that prevent him from stuttering in technology, this is the same in my neighborhood, old people don't play gambling and they actually when they see the laptop or computer that I use they say that they can't see well.

And why should they bother learning a computer that requires more energy to learn, why not just use a cellphone that is much easier to learn and not so dizzy to access gambling sites, this story is quite odd, but maybe the facts in the OP's neighborhood are like that, it's just that our minds are not good at accepting it, or maybe the elderly there do have above average wealth.
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