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June 05, 2024, 01:04:33 PM
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I've been on this forum for quite a long time and I have no plans to leave. We have all witnessed a rather sad phenomenon: the decline in the popularity of forums and the rise in popularity of instant messengers. Indeed, messengers are convenient in many ways: you exchange instant messages, you have very few restrictions on publications, you can actively use memes and pictures, as well as videos. You can post many messages in one chat or channel and the moderator will not correct you. However, pay attention to the positive aspects of forums: here the information is well structured and systematized. There is a concept of a constructive post here, which is not found in instant messengers. In messengers, all messages fly into an endless feed, from where it is very difficult to pull them out.
 I believe that crypto forums are ideal for running an anonymous, or more precisely, pseudonymous business. You open the door to your personal life exactly as much as you want. This is unthinkable in the ordinary world. Thus, crypto forums in general and the bitcointalk forum in particular are of significant value. In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?

 
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June 05, 2024, 01:15:19 PM
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what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
Personally I do not think that the popularity of this forum has diminished so much, what I see is just a reduction in the number of companies coming to do marketing in the forum following the ban of mixers. Even though I still believe that mixers were in line with the vision of Satoshi, it is unfortunate that the powers that be consider it a threat to their control of global finance. It is expected that the ban of mixers will definitely affect the forum but I have the confidence that in coming years, the forum would have evolved and completely return to the high traffic platform it used to be.

In summary, I don't think there's nothing anybody can do to change the natural process the forum is passing through. In due time, more companies will see the importance of the forum and will surely consider the forum for their marketing, this will in turn bring more participants here.

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June 05, 2024, 01:20:57 PM
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The key is money.

I heard that in 2017-2018 was the best years since many people can earn a lot money with minimal effort, they only need to tweet, re-post, translating using google translator, spamming 1-2 liner(s) in this forum etc.

After most bounties turns scam, most people leave the forum, many users shift to signature campaigns and the forum still renting the ads banner.

Theymos decide to stop the ads banner, now starting this year the forum ban mixer promotions which make the traffic going down.

How to make Bitcointalk become popular again? enlarge and expand the incentives.

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June 05, 2024, 01:26:37 PM
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The key is money.

I heard that in 2017-2018 was the best years since many people can earn a lot money with minimal effort, they only need to tweet, re-post, translating using google translator, spamming 1-2 liner(s) in this forum etc.

After most bounties turns scam, most people leave the forum, many users shift to signature campaigns and the forum still renting the ads banner.

Theymos decide to stop the ads banner, now starting this year the forum ban mixer promotions which make the traffic going down.

How to make Bitcointalk become popular again? enlarge and expand the incentives.

That of great, I precisely joined in 2017 and what I remember is that it was good times for spammers and scammers. I would say that the best time was until not long ago, since CM fell and there were several mixers who had signature campaigns on the forum. As we already had the merit system for several years by then, there was a mix of traffic, good contributions and a democratization in good campaign payments (before there was a huge difference between what CM paid and what the rest paid).

I don't think there is anything we can do. The mixers are not coming back, the forums are becoming less and less popular, and the only way that would be to attract a lot of good paying advertisers I see as unlikely. Add to that the fact that casinos, which are the big advertisers now, are in a kind of legal vacuum that I don't think will last for many years.


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June 05, 2024, 01:54:06 PM
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what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
Personally I do not think that the popularity of this forum has diminished so much, what I see is just a reduction in the number of companies coming to do marketing in the forum following the ban of mixers. Even though I still believe that mixers were in line with the vision of Satoshi, it is unfortunate that the powers that be consider it a threat to their control of global finance. It is expected that the ban of mixers will definitely affect the forum but I have the confidence that in coming years, the forum would have evolved and completely return to the high traffic platform it used to be.

In summary, I don't think there's nothing anybody can do to change the natural process the forum is passing through. In due time, more companies will see the importance of the forum and will surely consider the forum for their marketing, this will in turn bring more participants here.

This forum is still very popular, and ranking very high in any Google search.

Just search for technical questions and topics, bitcointalk is always among the first results

What OP wants is just more money from signature campaigns.. which are a privilege,  not a metric of the success of the forum.

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I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?

I believe the Bitcointalk forum remains popular today. Maybe many old accounts have left the forum for whatever reason we don't know. but there will always be new members registering.
I don't clearly understand the level of popularity you mean. but if you refer to @Solosanz's reply, perhaps most of those who disappeared from the forum no longer earn money from the forum. so they leave temporarily or indefinitely.

In terms of wider popularity, I think it will come when Bitcoin is finally used as an alternative legal means of payment throughout the world in transactions for goods or services. Certainly, the popularity of forums that focus on discussing Bitcoin over a very long time will increase in popularity.

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In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
If to make the forum popular again, it needs to turn to be a social media platform, it's ton of tasks to do and I can not imagine how I use the forum like X. I barely use X to be honest.

Frankly when I joined the forum 7 years ago, I did not feel comfortable with forum infrastructure and text discussions but now I love it and this style. If I have to use it like X or Facebook, I would feel I lose something.

I heard that in 2017-2018 was the best years since many people can earn a lot money with minimal effort, they only need to tweet, re-post, translating using google translator, spamming 1-2 liner(s) in this forum etc.

After most bounties turns scam, most people leave the forum, many users shift to signature campaigns and the forum still renting the ads banner.
These spam activities from bounty hunters are visualized with charts there
Time Series on monthly statistics of forum (new users, new topics, new posts)

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In summary, I don't think there's nothing anybody can do to change the natural process the forum is passing through. In due time, more companies will see the importance of the forum and will surely consider the forum for their marketing, this will in turn bring more participants here.

I have not been in the forum for a long time but I have always heard from older members that the population has reduced. From my few years, I have also observed that a few well-grounded members have also left the forum due to some reasons. Apart from that, the only issue that I have observed is a reduction in the number of campaigns. There is always a time for everything in life and one can do nothing about such situations.

When I saw the title Let's Make Bitcointalk Great Again, I assumed that OP wanted to come up with some opinion that would attract more members to the forum. Bitcointalk is still the number one platform when it comes to Bitcoin discussions and I think it will maintain the position for a long time. But we cannot also deny the fact younger people are now more interested in getting information from other sources. We all know that one of the ways to bring more people to the forum is when there are more avenues to get rewarded.

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June 05, 2024, 02:49:34 PM
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what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
Personally I do not think that the popularity of this forum has diminished so much, what I see is just a reduction in the number of companies coming to do marketing in the forum following the ban of mixers. Even though I still believe that mixers were in line with the vision of Satoshi, it is unfortunate that the powers that be consider it a threat to their control of global finance. It is expected that the ban of mixers will definitely affect the forum but I have the confidence that in coming years, the forum would have evolved and completely return to the high traffic platform it used to be.

In summary, I don't think there's nothing anybody can do to change the natural process the forum is passing through. In due time, more companies will see the importance of the forum and will surely consider the forum for their marketing, this will in turn bring more participants here.

This forum is still very popular, and ranking very high in any Google search.

Just search for technical questions and topics, bitcointalk is always among the first results

What OP wants is just more money from signature campaigns.. which are a privilege,  not a metric of the success of the forum.
Thank you for sharing the same views and adding more substance to my position. It actually feel so strange when posts about the declined popularity of the forum pops up every now as if the forum is ending any time soon. The more we make the forum all about signature campaign, even though this is also important, the more we kill the fun of being here. The reduction in traffic is understandable and completely natural because most of the products banned in this forum were among the major contributor to the forum traffic. Everything cannot automatically return to normal but will require some time for the traffic to come back when more projects find here worthy of their marketing. We can also see that within this same period, many new companies, mostly in the casino businesses, have also joined the forum and more will still come.

As far as cryptocurrency is concerned, the forum is outstanding, the bounty section is bubbling and new members are join the forum at an alarming rate even though there also a few people retiring from the forum too.

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June 05, 2024, 03:29:17 PM
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In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
I don't think there is much that can be done. Life runs its course. With time, people become bored and want a change. The older forum members who made this forum what it is are slowly leaving, but they aren't being replaced with the same quality in the younger folks.

Trying to make the forum important again is like trying to make tape recorders popular again. People don't want tapes and cassettes anymore. Their interests lie elsewhere.
One thing the admins could do is not make new rule changes that will affect forum activity. Looking at it from an activity point of view only, banning mixers was a bad decision. Those discussions that would have taken place on Bitcointalk are now happening elsewhere. Signature campaigns are important whether we like it or not. More changes like that could have similar results. 

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In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
All other socoal media and means of communciation should disappear in order for bitcointalk to regain his older glory, and since that of course won't, happen its best to accept the reality and gradual decline. All we can hope for is that decline will be slow so we can enjoy in bitcointalk for many years to come (which I think we will).

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In summary, I don't think there's nothing anybody can do to change the natural process the forum is passing through. In due time, more companies will see the importance of the forum and will surely consider the forum for their marketing, this will in turn bring more participants here.
I have not been in the forum for a long time but I have always heard from older members that the population has reduced. From my few years, I have also observed that a few well-grounded members have also left the forum due to some reasons. Apart from that, the only issue that I have observed is a reduction in the number of campaigns. There is always a time for everything in life and one can do nothing about such situations.
I believe the reduction in the number of active members here in the forum can be traced back to the ban on mixers and other little personal decisions for members who feel like leaving, starting with the ban on the first mixer, which was seized by the three later governments, which was one of the highest-paying campaigns. After it was banned, some of the participants who I see wearing their signatures are no longer active.
 
Another reason, which I can also say contributes to the reduction of activities on the forum, aside from the lack of campaign, could also be a lack of interesting topics, which I have seen a lot of members talk about. Aside from the campaign earnings, there are those who are here based on the kind of topic of interest they always come across, and if such a topic is no longer here, then they will have to leave the forum.

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Another reason, which I can also say contributes to the reduction of activities on the forum, aside from the lack of campaign, could also be a lack of interesting topics, which I have seen a lot of members talk about. Aside from the campaign earnings, there are those who are here based on the kind of topic of interest they always come across, and if such a topic is no longer here, then they will have to leave the forum.

Let me also add that the invention of Artificial intelligence tools has also changed the medium from which the younger generation obtains information. These young people are not patient enough to search for information from traditional forums. They can just get the knowledge they desire cheaply by using chatbots. Young people are also more interested in learning easily through videos rather than writing. I don't know much about the reduction in the number of interesting topics, but it might be an indication that old-quality posters that are leaving the forum are not replaced accordingly.

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what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?

If the goal of boosting popularity is to compete with social media apps to communicate then this is almost impossible to achieve since forum is far too outdated to compete with that no matter what campaign we use to boost popularity. I bet all members here has social media account that is frequently being use than the forum in terms of communication.

In regard with popularity against other forum. Bitcointalk is still the top forum when it comes to crypto discussion forum. I read bunch of discussion on reddit and other crypto forum but all of them doesn’t have much substantial input compared to the knowledge being shared by knowledgeable forum member here.

Bitcointalk is still the number 1 forum for crypto discussion.

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June 05, 2024, 04:33:13 PM
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In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
All other socoal media and means of communciation should disappear in order for bitcointalk to regain his older glory, and since that of course won't, happen its best to accept the reality and gradual decline. All we can hope for is that decline will be slow so we can enjoy in bitcointalk for many years to come (which I think we will).
All social media don't even need to disappear first before Bitcointalk can regain its glory; both are there to serve different purposes, and aside from that, social media can't replace Bitcointalk; at least the ones that I'm seeing now can't replace Bitcointalk based on how this forum operates.

There is a lot of spam and scam going on those social media sites, with a lot of fake information flying here, and it's not like here, where members dedicate their time to eradicate such.
 
This forum creates a wider learning environment, and its design for that purpose compares to how social media is designed, where they are mainly focused on what they could get from users traffic and the rest of them.

 
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June 05, 2024, 05:13:49 PM
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We would gain nothing here if the population was here and didn't make a quality impact. It's better to be on average and maintain a serene forum environment where readers can get the actual information they need. A library is best being quiet. When a library is populated and noise erupts due to a high range of unserious readers, there is only two ways to handle such thing. Is either the serious readers leaves there for the unserious ones or the management places a strict rule that will expell unseriousness in the library, and maintain quietness thereby reducing the number of people who visits there.

Technically this is a self interest board. More like an online Bitcoin library.You can't find a place like this on any social media. Fine, on there you'd be able to see niches on Bitcoin, but the contents are not arranged like it is here, and many of them don't rank on search engines. Bitcoin talk is great except for the fact that members feel that great users are reducing in number. However, it takes time to learn a lot of a new technology like Bitcoin. As the forum is filled with users who are barely 5 years downwards since their membership here.

I understand that most people stopped getting an easy usage of the forum due to the restrictions on low quality posts and spamming. Lots of new members left the forum as most of their posts got reported and deleted for some good reason. The forum would have been in a serious mess if all sort of unmoderated posts were left floating around causing misinformation and low rate of learning. Nothing is wrong with the forum. We are growing.

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June 05, 2024, 05:28:37 PM
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Firstly Op let me start by spotting out the fact that I don't believe this forum has lost its level of popularity in any way. In fact it is actually safe to say that it has even gained more popularity over the course of the recent bull run and other things like conjestions that also occured. Saying that this forum has reduced in popularity to me simply means you are indirectly spotting out the fact that the forum traffic has dropped to some certain extent.

The most that I can agree to is that over the course of a few years we have lost some legends on the forum like the likes of o_e_l_e_o and light warrior. The fact is things will still go on as normal and over time users will come up to assume the spots of those legends.

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There were auto-join sig camps in 2017 and the most famous one was bitm-xer’s camp. It was awesome we were getting paid in flat btc rate and btc was mooning. People were drowning in money. Now most good campaigns pay in btc again but they pay us its usd equivalent (50-100 usd), merit system also slowed things down a lot.

2017 was a spamfest but people made lots of and lots of money during that time. It was awesome. I don’t think we’ll experience something like that ever again in the future

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I guess Telegram is what you're mentioning the instant messaging app but it's serves completely different purposes and most often telegram communities of crypto doesn't involve any discussions they just share news which is likely be one time bump and dump scheme.

Bitcointalk is still great in terms of quality.

If you want to see more numbers then revoke merit system then you will see account farmers will take down the quality by bombarding thousands of posts everyday, so great=quality not quantity.

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All social media don't even need to disappear first before Bitcointalk can regain its glory; both are there to serve different purposes, and aside from that, social media can't replace Bitcointalk; at least the ones that I'm seeing now can't replace Bitcointalk based on how this forum operates.
When it comes to getting help and assistance in solving specific problems, the knowledge roaming around on Bitcointalk and among its members isn't something you will find on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media platforms. Bitcointalk was and remains #1 in that aspect. I think Bitcoin StackExchange takes the second spot in terms of quality posts.

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