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June 22, 2024, 08:14:37 AM
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In the past, the salaries of working people provided them with the opportunity to build their future. Most salaries today are just enough to live on until the next salary and not enough to do anything additional. The biggest problem of employees today is their inability to invest for the future.

It is necessary to take steps to start a new business or generate additional income. If a fixed salary is not enough, it is necessary to look for ways to invest for the future. Investing is one of the biggest things you can do for the future.

This, while an unfortunate reality for most, is 100% correct. 👍  Simply working and saving is not enough for anyone earning even an above average salary. 
Even working, saving and investing still not enough to set for the early retirement, the interest offered nowadays are astonishingly aside from the investment that requires high risk there's nothing really worth investing, crypto is the only since we are only at relatively early phase right now there's still many things that we can invest knowing the space of cryptocurrency keep growing every year. But even then we're also still exposed to the risk.

so far its pretty shitty economic condition that we're in, the only way to get out of this probably just to stake everything that we have into one thing it could be investment or anything, increase that risk by few folds and hope for the best. otherwise we gonna need to pay mortgage for 30 years like anyone else even then such mortgage only affordable by people earning 6 figures.

Very possible.
If my investment in crypto will earn me $1M then I'd be set for that and I'll live within my means and if possible, below my means.
I'd reinvest that into something that I know more or if not, I'd do just the same routine while doing not so heavy with my business.
a man can hope, but personally and realistically speaking $1M gonna be tough for someone that starts out with just few grands at most doing investment in crypto like the average joe.
unless its meme coin but only very few people making it big from meme coin anyway, the truth is, most of crypto already high valued the potential to rise even higher become lower going opposite to the capital growth.

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June 22, 2024, 11:29:55 AM
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Very possible.
If my investment in crypto will earn me $1M then I'd be set for that and I'll live within my means and if possible, below my means.
I'd reinvest that into something that I know more or if not, I'd do just the same routine while doing not so heavy with my business.
a man can hope, but personally and realistically speaking $1M gonna be tough for someone that starts out with just few grands at most doing investment in crypto like the average joe.
unless its meme coin but only very few people making it big from meme coin anyway, the truth is, most of crypto already high valued the potential to rise even higher become lower going opposite to the capital growth.
In the past, there have been the same story and thought that it's not gonna happen but it did.
I think there will be some extraordinary stories as well that the same thing can happen, either with BTC, some meme coins or any alt that will have tremendously gains


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June 22, 2024, 12:42:05 PM
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Is it still possible to retire early? If the question simply like this the answer could be simply as saying YES hahha.

But seriously you can retire early in my opinion and this is my idea, disclaimer on I want retire early but I don't have money at the moment hahahha. So need a ton of money this is real first you can invest into dividend stock and government bonds as long as the APY is above the inflation rate. So if you have inflation rate that sit around 4% a year you can search any stock or bond or other investment that gives you return 8% or above 5%.

and from there it gonna possible to retire early

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June 22, 2024, 02:31:54 PM
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In my estimation early retirement is a choice if you leave in an economy that is already developed. In an economy where the government actually cares for her citizens and have been able to provide the basic and amenities for them. But if you leave in an economy that is still developing early retirement will only be a wish. Because you can't retire early and have it going good for you. In this type of economy you have to work twice as hard to even erk out a good living for yourself and while you are at it retiring early would be the last thing on your list. That is why you should do work that you love, take time out to relax, eat healthy, invest no matter how little even while you are actively working.
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What you think is correct, but it is not wrong if someone chooses to retire early even in the current economic conditions, through careful planning, choosing the right profession, and wise financial management, early retirement can become a reality even in a different economic situation . As the saying goes, "He who sows with tears, will reap with joy." This proverb can be interpreted as meaning that good effort and planning will produce satisfactory results in the future, including in the context of early retirement.

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June 22, 2024, 03:22:07 PM
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Early retirement is certainly a choice but it’s an inevitable thing, that’s why we have to prepare for it whether we like it or not, in order to retire peacefully and financially secured. Although not all retirees have the capability to retire stress free from financial struggles, that’s why we are a given a lot of time to prepare for it, and by not missing opportunities to work for an income and investment for passive income as well, we can actually reach the retirement period without so much thinking if we can still survive this retirement age or we end up struggling again with money and finances.
Retiring much earlier than what the law may state on you country is possible, but it requires meticulous planning as this will not simply happen on its own, even if you were to earn a lot of money for a long time.

In my opinion the most important step is to become an investor as soon as possible, since the longer you can remain invested in an asset, the more profits you can get simply by holding it long term, so someone that invested all the money they could since their early twenties, will achieve great results by their early forties, results which could be good enough to allow them such an early retirement.
Yes, having other sources of income to back up is way better rather than relying solely on the money we get from retiring. It is about preparing for the future and while we still have enough energy and sustainable monthly income, investing should have to consider the most than just saving. And I see this as not a common view and plan of many people who retire as they just take action which is absolutely a big mistake.

As we are experiencing high inflation rates, the more we create plans that can help us sustain and survive. Taking a step toward an earning opportunity should not be ignored instead, must do it as early as possible.

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June 22, 2024, 03:49:22 PM
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Very possible.
If my investment in crypto will earn me $1M then I'd be set for that and I'll live within my means and if possible, below my means.
I'd reinvest that into something that I know more or if not, I'd do just the same routine while doing not so heavy with my business.
a man can hope, but personally and realistically speaking $1M gonna be tough for someone that starts out with just few grands at most doing investment in crypto like the average joe.
unless its meme coin but only very few people making it big from meme coin anyway, the truth is, most of crypto already high valued the potential to rise even higher become lower going opposite to the capital growth.
In the past, there have been the same story and thought that it's not gonna happen but it did.
I think there will be some extraordinary stories as well that the same thing can happen, either with BTC, some meme coins or any alt that will have tremendously gains

Still possible and it will provide benefits to those who are not afraid of taking the risk, we don't know what future may bring as there's no one who can accurately conclude what will be the fate of the project or investment that you'll going to take, it's a matter of determination and trust and who knows it will provide decent amount of money that will allow you to retires your early age.

Things can be done for those who have that desire and works with their passions, more on how you dream and aim for your great success.

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June 22, 2024, 03:57:23 PM
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Is it still possible to retire early? If the question simply like this the answer could be simply as saying YES hahha.

But seriously you can retire early in my opinion and this is my idea, disclaimer on I want retire early but I don't have money at the moment hahahha. So need a ton of money this is real first you can invest into dividend stock and government bonds as long as the APY is above the inflation rate. So if you have inflation rate that sit around 4% a year you can search any stock or bond or other investment that gives you return 8% or above 5%.

and from there it gonna possible to retire early
We could really be having our own choice when it comes on retiring from our own because if we do see that we are really that someone whose really that having that kind of sustainance on the moment that we do quit up our job or simply could be able to survive on the moment that you would really be retiring early then it would really be your choice and it would be understandable that you would really be retiring for good and would really be focusing into the current thing that you've been dealing. You wont really be needing to have a boss and woke up early and would be going into some traffic on daily routine or something like this.
How its good to have this kind of life on the moment that you would really be able to retire without having any financial problems or being that worried on this manner because you do know that you have at least assured yourself into this one.

On the moment that you would be able to see that you could be able to survive without needing your day job then its a good sign that you could quit or retire anytime but sadly only a few
would really be able to reach out such state or condition on where you would be able to sustain this one. So it would really be just that situation on your condition.

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Is it still possible to retire early? If the question simply like this the answer could be simply as saying YES hahha.

But seriously you can retire early in my opinion and this is my idea, disclaimer on I want retire early but I don't have money at the moment hahahha. So need a ton of money this is real first you can invest into dividend stock and government bonds as long as the APY is above the inflation rate. So if you have inflation rate that sit around 4% a year you can search any stock or bond or other investment that gives you return 8% or above 5%.

and from there it gonna possible to retire early
Early retirement is possible, if we do have more income than the average person there, talking about investing in stocks or bonds and depending on the interest rate is also not a good thing because it sometimes changes, and stocks rise only based on M2 money supply, unless it is in blue chip stocks that have a better future and have never been disrupted by any economic issues, but enough I am very jaran, and also look at the amount of money we use as a means of seeing the benefits that might be obtained, it's not funny if 8% of $500.

I think the average person who can retire early is those who are good at trading, however, the science used in the trading world such as technical analysis and mental mastery is always the same from time to time, and the most important thing in this case is that we can continue to adapt to the times, so it is possible that we can make more money than any industry.

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Investments and as many sources of income should a retired person have. If not, it's still possible to retire early and mostly those who are in the tech industry do it. How? Through selling the companies that they have built and the business that it has. The valuation that these companies and businesses that are getting is very high as long as they're on the trend and their technology and innovation is on set and in proper timing. While all of those advises are for real and needed to be done, if you want to shortcut it. Aside from winning the lottery, making a business in the tech industry is one way.
the only thing that I have to say or contribute towards in this comment is that you have to learn or make a proper research before going into investment those people who feel that they can make everything possible when you come in terms investment arrangements the people that loss, secondly its obvious that a retired person is the one that have the opportunity to go into investment, so therefore you have strategies well, the only we need to know or understand about investment is to understand the preamble of it first, so therefore we have to understand such.

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Most people are afraid to retire early because they think about the future.They are worried about their future.Because without enough savings, early retirement can be life-threatening.

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Its something that you should really be needing up to consider because there would really be no guarantees that you could really be able to retire or finish up it until on the age of 60 on which this is something that will be considered to be the retirement age or much more earlier depending on which country because there are places which does have that less age limit when it comes on getting retired. If you are someone who do last up until the end then its good but factors or risks on being laid of or getting fired would really be still there on which simply means that it will really be just that still depending on how you would really be that handling up yourself on such conditions.
Of course we must always be able to consider our old age in the future and if we can enjoy retirement before the age of 60 it will certainly be better because we have prepared for our old age earlier and if retirement is for a worker in a field that is under contract with a company or certain institutions, then we have to follow the applicable rules, but if we have a business that is running well, of course it will be easier to determine the time to retire and it can even be faster compared to those who work for a company and we will be able to enjoy that retirement period. by relaxing and not thinking about any business.
I do agree that trying to retire earlier than 60 years old makes sense, I am planning on retiring at my 40's for example, that doesn't mean I plan on retiring at 40 exactly, it could be very well 49, that's fine too, just not 50 years old.

Because I spent about 20 years of my life as a kid, and then spend a 30 year period working and basically using my entire life to just be able to afford living, and I just want the last 20 or so years to retiring and resting, but we do not know how long we will live. May I have some health issues tomorrow? Sure, which is why I want to work only until 50, since that means I may live for another day after that, or may live another 30, I rather retire early just in case and make sure I live a decent life after that a bit more.

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Most people are afraid to retire early because they think about the future.They are worried about their future.Because without enough savings, early retirement can be life-threatening.

I think this is the kind of mentality and ideological beliefs that are infested in the minds of most civil servants although I can tell you that it is not all of them that have this same mentality, anyways. But the whole idea about salary payments and wages always brings about this overreliance on the monthly payments that comes and since it's something that you always expect at the end of every month, you have this kind of relaxation that sets into your brain whenever you receive it thereby unable to think about what happens in the near future or unexpected events that will likely turn up. Because of this, many of these civil servants have form the habit of taking loans to be repaid with their monthly salaries.

While this salary thing may seem to be a good idea since there's high level of certainty in it, that might not be the best way for workers who battle with meagre resources as their salaries. So whenever they thing, they have this insecurity over losing their jobs and going into the business world where things work based on efforts and strategies and good luck.

This is why I think many people like that won't be able to retire early and go into the crypto world because they're basically scared and have the capacity to take only small risks as far as their financial lives are considered.

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In the past, there have been the same story and thought that it's not gonna happen but it did.
I think there will be some extraordinary stories as well that the same thing can happen, either with BTC, some meme coins or any alt that will have tremendously gains

Still possible and it will provide benefits to those who are not afraid of taking the risk, we don't know what future may bring as there's no one who can accurately conclude what will be the fate of the project or investment that you'll going to take, it's a matter of determination and trust and who knows it will provide decent amount of money that will allow you to retires your early age.

Things can be done for those who have that desire and works with their passions, more on how you dream and aim for your great success.
And how you are going to make it happen. Not everyone who dreams for something big are able to achieve it.
Many are just stopping and forgetting it when they can't get through the process because it's quite hard for them.
The possibility is there, many are still hoping for that one big home run in terms of investing in the market and when they do, they'd surely plan to retire.


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Is it still possible to retire early? If the question simply like this the answer could be simply as saying YES hahha.

But seriously you can retire early in my opinion and this is my idea, disclaimer on I want retire early but I don't have money at the moment hahahha. So need a ton of money this is real first you can invest into dividend stock and government bonds as long as the APY is above the inflation rate. So if you have inflation rate that sit around 4% a year you can search any stock or bond or other investment that gives you return 8% or above 5%.

and from there it gonna possible to retire early
Well, let’s not make it complicated, if some people chose to retire early, of course they can, but they cannot expect that their lives won’t be financially struggling if they don’t prepare much for it. That’s the reason why until now, even if majority of the workers want to retire early, but thinking about what could be their life after, that stops them from early retirement.

No wonder that others end up working until they die, not because they’re greedy with money, but they just want to secure their retirement and work as much as they can as long as they’re still capable and productive.

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In the past, there have been the same story and thought that it's not gonna happen but it did.
I think there will be some extraordinary stories as well that the same thing can happen, either with BTC, some meme coins or any alt that will have tremendously gains

Still possible and it will provide benefits to those who are not afraid of taking the risk, we don't know what future may bring as there's no one who can accurately conclude what will be the fate of the project or investment that you'll going to take, it's a matter of determination and trust and who knows it will provide decent amount of money that will allow you to retires your early age.

Things can be done for those who have that desire and works with their passions, more on how you dream and aim for your great success.
And how you are going to make it happen. Not everyone who dreams for something big are able to achieve it.
Many are just stopping and forgetting it when they can't get through the process because it's quite hard for them.
The possibility is there, many are still hoping for that one big home run in terms of investing in the market and when they do, they'd surely plan to retire.

Agree to that, those who keep on trying will the chance to find success while those who stop surely will not achieve anything in return, just like what I've said, it's your determination plus your hard work will pay, though not all will have that same fate but as long as you are trying your best doing your part, who knows the project that you are supporting will pump high and give you the benefits that you are aiming, it's a retirement benefits that can allow you to enjoy life in your early age.

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Retirement is very important for every human being because in life the early time of every man's life is to works , at a certain age it is good for Retirement to take place because one can't work all throughout lifetime.  Early retirement enables people to get prepared for old age and a this age it is not very good for one to stress the body working like in the youthful days. It is important to make plan for retirement because the reason why some people will still want to work at retirement age is because they have nothing on ground that can bring income for them.

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Retiring off the back of bonds is an overdone idea.  In 1980 bond rates peaked at 20% I believe it was, USA had some debt problem and inflation and bonds were not popular hence high rates.  Volcker was a hard money FED chief

Ironic thing now is the debt is far worse, the whole bond idea is oversold.  When you say bond you are talking about paper dollars which can suffer badly.   Politics is not in a good way imo so I dont trust that whole 'investment'

I would not advise reliance on an overplayed game.  Back in 1980 era it was seen high risk but it was a bet that paid off and the historic graph shows bonds paid well.  Boomers living well is a known meme for a reason off the back of that turn around.

Now I would suggest retirement would come via management of accommodation like a part time landlord job etc.  They call it retirement but its just nicer then the usual rat race jobs.   You set your own hours etc.

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June 24, 2024, 02:24:30 PM
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I have heard people talk about retiring early and I usually see it as unnecessary. But as I begin to grow older it is beginning to make sense to me. Growing up and education took me like twenty years, and I might work for another thirty-five years. So, it is expected that I will retire at the age of fifty-five.

Now it is important to note that the desire to retire early is personal because some people don't want to rest early. I just think I need to have some time to do this. I am passionate about, and in some cases, most of them are not for profit making. I also need time to explore books and learn about many things. I desire to rear domestic animals and plant some crops. I just want to be free from this rat race and modern-day slavery. Life is too short to be wasted only on work.

But with the economic condition of some countries, people are scared of retirement. Retirement benefits can hardly feed a family for two years because of inflation. Before, now retirement benefits could sustain a family for up to ten years if it was well managed. But this is not the case today. It is common to see retirees still working actively to survive. Seeing elderly men engaging in energy-consuming jobs because of harsh economic conditions is always painful.

Regardless of these economic woes I still believe that there are still ways to retire early. I have considered a few steps on how to plan for early retirement. They are not new but I wanted to remind us.

-Budgeting: If you don't have a good financial plan you better consider having one. It helps you to know when to reduce or increase your income and expenditure. Recently we had to cut the cost of buying imported cereals and replacing them with cheaper locally produced ones. We had to start spending money on a keyboard teacher because the children needed to learn music. It is not a basic need but we have to make provision for it. Budgeting will help you spend within your means.

- Saving: It is very difficult to save money in this period of economic breakdown. What you earn is not even enough to cover the cost of your needs, so having extra is not just possible. You might not be able to save a huge amount monthly but just try and save a little. I was saving $10 monthly from my salary, and I continuously did it for about two years. You might say I just saved $240, but the truth is is at least I have a backup fund. So from that, you have little income, no matter how small, keep saving some.

-Alternative sources of income
: In some countries, getting a job is a big problem, so you can hardly get more than one job. The economy is also affecting businesses negatively, many firms in my country have gone bankrupt. Going back to school to get a relevant qualification, which has a high tendency to give you a job with a higher pay, is good. Learning a new skill that can help you meet a need in your location is also fine. Starting a business with available funds can bring profits. The point I am making is that you should use any available opportunity you have for another income source. But this is not an excuse to overwork yourself; your total well-being is more important.

-Investment: If you are considering early retirement, then you should have a system that brings money even when you are not working. Some people have built that will give them money for as long as they live. I know of many people whose income from their farms can sustain them for like. Some people were able to own properties that they rented and make money. Some persons have shares, patents, or royalties in some profitable organization. People will always say the forum promotes Bitcoin but the currency is another good investment. One can add Bitcoin hodling to his retirement plan because it is profitable.

-Healthy Living: Many retirees spend their savings on medical bills. Sometimes, these illnesses are unpredictable, but we should also do our best to prevent them. We should eat healthy, avoid harmful practices that endanger our health, exercise, and rest. A healthy retiree greatly enjoys his retirement life because he is strong and spends less.

In summary, early retirement is a choice. The global economy is making it difficult to achieve it, but we can still try our best to plan toward enjoying it by saving, investing, and healthy living.
Statistically speaking, only a small portion of people living today will be able to retire early, with a lot of us being so drowned in debt we may not even be able to retire at all. To downplay the situation and assume that we can still retire with just the right mindset and saving up of money is just ridiculous and an outdated outlook on things, which would've worked 50 years ago but is certainly implausible now. What we need to have is an economic reform that works for the current generation and not the one who precedes them, cause as it stands today the only ones who will see benefit from all the struggles that we have is the fucking boomers who were the ones at fault of the current market situation anyway.

Of course perseverance and hardwork's a recipe for success, but those alone, without opportunity, will only get you so far.

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June 24, 2024, 04:04:45 PM
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Very possible.
If my investment in crypto will earn me $1M then I'd be set for that and I'll live within my means and if possible, below my means.
I'd reinvest that into something that I know more or if not, I'd do just the same routine while doing not so heavy with my business.
a man can hope, but personally and realistically speaking $1M gonna be tough for someone that starts out with just few grands at most doing investment in crypto like the average joe.
unless its meme coin but only very few people making it big from meme coin anyway, the truth is, most of crypto already high valued the potential to rise even higher become lower going opposite to the capital growth.
In the past, there have been the same story and thought that it's not gonna happen but it did.
I think there will be some extraordinary stories as well that the same thing can happen, either with BTC, some meme coins or any alt that will have tremendously gains
Of course, everything can still happen, but there is no certainty when it will happen, but one thing you need to remember, it will happen, no one knows how to make a profit from BTC, but if we learn how it goes up and down, we will get a little easier that is, read the increase, then from there continue to learn about it and enjoy the benefits.

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June 24, 2024, 06:30:48 PM
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In summary, early retirement is a choice. The global economy is making it difficult to achieve it, but we can still try our best to plan toward enjoying it by saving, investing, and healthy living.

This can be said to be an option if we have good financial preparation and when making the decision to retire early we know what to do.
Many people actually want jobs in the real world because they don't want to take risks and a life without a stable income will make things worse so we will cause problems.
If we want to take early retirement, we have to calculate the level of income we will get and we should have a target for starting a business or investment.

Without good planning, taking early retirement can cause problems in generating income to support life. So before a decision is made we should have a target that we want to develop so that we have a plan for managing finances.

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