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June 06, 2024, 10:41:08 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
Vini Jr - 1.40 Bellingham - 4.00 Mbappé - 11.00 Tony Kross - 12.00 Harry Kane - 21.00
What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
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June 06, 2024, 10:51:29 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore. For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
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June 06, 2024, 11:07:36 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore. For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season. Don't think it comes so easy for Bellingham if he wins it. This dude had just come to Real Madrid, and he is lucky to have won several trophies since he came, in his debut season he won the La Liga and the next season won the Champions league. Dude is so lucky i must say. But in terms of who deserved it i think Vinicius does. I agree with you that Mbappe is way out of the league of heroes. I still feel for him because all his effort has not paid off at all. He has always been this close to success but gets defeat at the end.
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June 07, 2024, 01:57:54 PM |
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All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.
For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
This award will go to Vini Jr. It doesn't matter if England wins the European football competition or not, by the way they aren't going to win. They may be topic 3 but not going to win. Vini Jr has been phenomenal and he deserves this even his stats say it.He has won the best player in the UCL and the UCL finals, scored 3 goals between the semi finals and finals and in terms of dribbling and plays that come from him in big games is unmatched. The whole team looks for him and relies on him. However, if they decide to give it to Mbappe, then I know that it was out of favoritism and not any serious achievement.
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June 07, 2024, 02:24:23 PM |
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Likely between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham will be interested players candidate for winning Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024 depend with Mbappe or Harry Kane after failure with their club for winning UEFA Champion League trophy. Usually indicator for winning Ballon d'Or depend on players achievement with Champion League competition after success winning domestic league with their team. Between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham have dominance performance with Real Madrid in this season but Vinicius Jr more better perform in Champion League than Jude Bellingham. If have opportunity I will vote for Vinicius Jr because he made difference perform for Real Madrid actually in Champion League match and become best players at UCL competition.
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June 07, 2024, 02:32:17 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore. For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season. I agree with you based on your thoughts on Jude Bellingham have a high chance compared to now, if England wins Euro's. On the other hand if Brazil can also win Copa America, it will increase the chance of Vini winning Ballon D'or because currently he has the highest chance of winning. Mbappe did nothing extraordinary this season a d he did not win the world cup too, which makes him have a lower chance of winning. Maybe next season, Mbappe will be the winner of Ballon D'or since he is now in Real Madrid, the home of trophies and provides an opportunity for good achievement to their players.
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June 07, 2024, 02:40:46 PM |
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Likely between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham will be interested players candidate for winning Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024 depend with Mbappe or Harry Kane after failure with their club for winning UEFA Champion League trophy. Usually indicator for winning Ballon d'Or depend on players achievement with Champion League competition after success winning domestic league with their team. Between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham have dominance performance with Real Madrid in this season but Vinicius Jr more better perform in Champion League than Jude Bellingham. If have opportunity I will vote for Vinicius Jr because he made difference perform for Real Madrid actually in Champion League match and become best players at UCL competition.
The two young Real Madrid players are extraordinary, they have made a big contribution to their team. However, for the Ballon d'Or I have to choose Toni Kroos because he has also given great dedication to European and world football. Vini and Bellingham are still young, maybe they still have high hopes of achieving that, while Kroos has declared his retirement and he really deserves to be given this award.
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June 07, 2024, 02:42:57 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
Vini Jr - 1.40 Bellingham - 4.00 Mbappé - 11.00 Tony Kross - 12.00 Harry Kane - 21.00
What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
The only players that deserve this Ballon Dior are Vinicius and Jude Bellingham, these two players are the favorite to win the award unless the FIFA doesn’t want to give them and goes and gives it to Messi as they used to do, the reason why I said the FIFA use to give Messi the ballondior is because last season i don’t think he deserves it but it was giving to him and this season it may happen again, i don’t even see any reason why Messi can win the award so if we later hear that Messi win it that means the FIFA is the one favoring Messi as people say, but let be honest Vinicius and Bellingham are the ones that deserve this award. I have seen many arguments about Vinicius and Bellingham who is supposed to win the award, many people say that Bellingham should be ahead of Vinicius but for me I think Vinicius has done more than Bellingham this season in terms of showing his talent when it comes to champion league, when it comes to champion league Vinicius always try his best more than Bellingham, although Bellingham tries and help Real Madrid in Laliga league because if it is not because of him when Real Madrid players are getting injured from the beginning of the season the team will not be able to win the trophy, and he scores in both El Classico that help Real Madrid to win the match against Barcelona.
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June 07, 2024, 02:44:29 PM |
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WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham. France has very high chance to win EURO because nothing can beat them. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgvb.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F07%2F580662dc8d7048343b2b95de7bc14647.png&t=665&c=zbGiv1TPK2t_uA)
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June 07, 2024, 03:11:39 PM |
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All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.
For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
The Euro has more weight than the Copa America, but Vini Jr also has a good chance of winning another title this season with Brazil I'd go as far as to say that the Brazilian national team has as good a chance of winning the Copa America as France has of winning the Euro Both cases are very difficult to compare, but I think the title will still go to Vini Jr But even so, I believe it will generate discussion since there are always injustices in these choices, both players played VERY well this year, they stood out from the rest
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June 07, 2024, 03:37:19 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
Vini Jr - 1.40 Bellingham - 4.00 Mbappé - 11.00 Tony Kross - 12.00 Harry Kane - 21.00
What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
It all depends what happens in the international competitions, who ever has a better performance for their respective teams will likely win the ballon D’or. We have seen it in the past how Messi and Modric won it just because they had a good performance in the World Cup. So i feel if England wins the Euro Bellingham will surely win the award and if Brazil wins i think Vinicius has a better chance of winning it. So far from club football Vini Jr is the favorite and from all indications he has more chances of winning it but in years of international competition like this, club football is not the only determining factor, and any of the above mentioned players that has a better performance in the upcoming competitions will have more chances of winning it. If Messi wins the Copa America he will probably go home with another award this year again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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It all depends what happens in the international competitions, who ever has a better performance for their respective teams will likely win the ballon D’or. We have seen it in the past how Messi and Modric won it just because they had a good performance in the World Cup. So i feel if England wins the Euro Bellingham will surely win the award and if Brazil wins i think Vinicius has a better chance of winning it. So far from club football Vini Jr is the favorite and from all indications he has more chances of winning it but in years of international competition like this, club football is not the only determining factor, and any of the above mentioned players that has a better performance in the upcoming competitions will have more chances of winning it. If Messi wins the Copa America he will probably go home with another award this year again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I think it's almost impossible for Messi to win the Ballon d'Or this year, since he's playing in the United States The European championships carry much more weight in the decisions Maybe only if Messi wins the Copa America on his own, scoring lots of goals, making unbelievable plays, etc., but even then, I think it's quite difficult Interestingly, the last Brazilian player to win the award was Kaka in 2007 when he was playing for Milan
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It all depends what happens in the international competitions, who ever has a better performance for their respective teams will likely win the ballon D’or. We have seen it in the past how Messi and Modric won it just because they had a good performance in the World Cup. So i feel if England wins the Euro Bellingham will surely win the award and if Brazil wins i think Vinicius has a better chance of winning it. So far from club football Vini Jr is the favorite and from all indications he has more chances of winning it but in years of international competition like this, club football is not the only determining factor, and any of the above mentioned players that has a better performance in the upcoming competitions will have more chances of winning it. If Messi wins the Copa America he will probably go home with another award this year again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I think it's almost impossible for Messi to win the Ballon d'Or this year, since he's playing in the United States The European championships carry much more weight in the decisions Maybe only if Messi wins the Copa America on his own, scoring lots of goals, making unbelievable plays, etc., but even then, I think it's quite difficult Interestingly, the last Brazilian player to win the award was Kaka in 2007 when he was playing for Milan I don’t think if is impossible, this is messi we are talking about Don’t forget he won his last Ballon D’or while playing in the United States, he only scored couple of penalties in Qatar to lead his country to victory after defeating France. It’s no surprise if Messi should win it again because they place more value on international competitions than club competitions. In my view Haaland had a better year than him but winning the world cup changed everything. You can’t rule Messi out just yet, he might pull an incredible performance in Copa America.
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June 08, 2024, 02:08:55 PM |
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It feels really different to have Ballon d'Or odds without Messi and Ronaldo in top places... Anyway, I think the winner of the prize is going to be one of Vinicius Jr - Bellingham - Mbappe trio. However I must admit that I'm surprised with seeing Vinicius Jr that highly favourite. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Of course he also had a great season but wasn't Bellingham better in general? I mean the statistics. Bellingham played really extra this season. Maybe even better than Ancelotti expected him to play. Mbappe was like a goal machine. But we should take the big quality gap between the La Liga and Ligue 1 into account also. I think he is the least likely to win the prize. Maybe I might bet on Bellingham @4.00 as it looks attracting. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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June 08, 2024, 02:44:22 PM |
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Three Real Madrid players are candidates to win the 2024 Ballon d'Or, but in my opinion, of the three players, only Vini and Bellingham can really be the winners. Mbappe will only have a chance if he can play well at Euro 2024, and France comes out as champions. Euro 2024 will also be an opportunity for Bellingham to increase his chances of getting the Ballon d'Or, and the same goes for Vinicius Jr, where the Copa America can be a stage to get him closer to lifting the Ballon d'Or trophy.
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June 08, 2024, 02:53:03 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
Vini Jr - 1.40 Bellingham - 4.00 Mbappé - 11.00 Tony Kross - 12.00 Harry Kane - 21.00
What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
England were not very promising in the last 5 matches so Bellingham also got fewer opportunities, including Harry Kane, who failed in every team he played for. Then Mbappe achievements with PSG and the French national team were not very impressive. Vini has a bigger chance and also deserves to get the Ballon D'or supported by statistics this season with Real Madrid. Kroos is also a strong candidate as the player on the list of candidates to have the most UCL trophies of all time. Not only that, returning to the German national team also had a positive impact and achieved quite good wins compared to last season. In conclusion, I would include Vini and Kroos as one of the candidates who are closer to the Ballon D'or trophy.
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June 08, 2024, 02:59:28 PM |
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I haven't placed any bets on the Ballon d'Or odds while the EURO and Copa America championships are still decisive.
As of now Vini still has a lot of votes according to some sources but it's not certain that they will get it depending on the national team championship later that's my opinion.
To be honest, I'm not sure about Bellingham because bringing England to the championship is more difficult especially now experiencing a reshuffle of the squad, I'm not so sure unless France and Mbappe can hold it.
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June 08, 2024, 03:02:53 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
Vini Jr - 1.40 Bellingham - 4.00 Mbappé - 11.00 Tony Kross - 12.00 Harry Kane - 21.00
What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
It will take an exceptional performance from Jude Bellingham and Kylian Mbappé in the Euro for them to beat Vini Jr to this award. The Brazilian have done exceptionally well this season both in Madrid and the Brazilian national team. His fast pace and dribbling abilities contributed to the success of Real success. Jude is not also a potential winner of the Ballon d'Or 2023/2024 if the three loins win or at least get to the finals of the Euro and he makes some remarkable contributions. He won the UCL and he made a great impact in the club in just one year, so it could also give him an edge. Mbappe didn't have a good season in his club PSG, so his chances of winning will solely depend on the Euro. I want to include players like Phil Foden for his exceptional performance in Manchester City last season. Florian Wirtz should also be on the list for his contribution to the exploits and historical season of Bayer Leverkusen.
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June 08, 2024, 03:10:00 PM |
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WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham. France has very high chance to win EURO because nothing can beat them. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgvb.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F07%2F580662dc8d7048343b2b95de7bc14647.png&t=665&c=zbGiv1TPK2t_uA) what are you even saying? You mean vini jnr isn't impacting his team or what? Have you really watched him play for his club? Except you're trying to be too sentimental and biased here, the only people that comes close to him on that list in terms of being a strong support to his club is just harry Kane and tony Kross. Vini jnr has been the central point behinds real Madrid ability to winning the champions league and this is not just about is last goals in the finals, he's been instrumental throughout the season even though he got injured and went off the pitch for a while. It's understandable if you're painting the mbape scenario as a case where he lacks the kind of support from his players just like vinicious jnr but even with that, Kane hasn't been as instrumental as vini jnr.
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June 08, 2024, 03:12:29 PM |
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Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
Vini Jr - 1.40 Bellingham - 4.00 Mbappé - 11.00 Tony Kross - 12.00 Harry Kane - 21.00
What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
I see they are not giving any chance to Erling Haaland, if Harry Kane and Toni kroos can make the list, then why not Haaland, he was outstanding throughout the whole season for Manchester city, at least the only player that would have come from the English league. Vinicius junior is likely to be the winner, because of his individual brilliance, he is one player that will never get hold of the ball and move backwards, he will always want to push the ball forward towards the opponent and make a one on one dribble. Since the Ballon d'Or is an individual award for excellence, I will not be surprised if vinicius junior Wins it.
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