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June 08, 2024, 02:08:04 PM
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Asking for 25$.

Repaying 35$ on 15/06.

Source of income is funds that will be unstaked from TIA chain.

Wallet (USDT - TRC20): TZG7g2AseTfy2YofTbr8hziaUQBSGX8eMm

As I don't have reputation on bitcointalk I don't mind in giving more details about it or posting my playerauctions/gameflip profiles where I have rep but haven't used them for a long time.

Thanks.

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June 08, 2024, 02:21:54 PM
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June 08, 2024, 02:25:28 PM
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Playerauctions profile: https://www.playerauctions.com/store/srculebras9/feedback/

Gameflip profile: https://gameflip.com/es/profile/us-east-1:1decafc2-db14-4104-917d-b04c6bd501b0/rocketers-store/listings?page=1&start=0

As said I haven't used them for a long time but I guess it helps to create more trust.

Loan will be used to pay for two vps servers I have.
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June 08, 2024, 02:34:27 PM
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I can't afford collateral in the form of money, I could give my TIA private key though it doesn't provide you much security since I can still have access.
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June 08, 2024, 03:09:48 PM
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I can't afford collateral in the form of money, I could give my TIA private key though it doesn't provide you much security since I can still have access.

I hope you read that before you posted your application.

What is considered collateral?

Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Ethereum (also written as ETH).  Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.  Try localbitcoins.com

What is not considered collateral?

- Merit.  Bitcointalk Merit is not a commodity and is not meant to be traded.  Asking or doing so may get you negative trust (Trade with Extreme Caution!)
- Items they want to sell.  They don't want it back, so they will default.  It's scammy unethical behavior and will lead to negative trust.  Check their recent posts!
- Items not in hand.  Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default!  Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box.
- Future income.  You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt.
- Identification.  So what if they can prove who they are.  Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds?  You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does.  ID is useless.
- Games codes or similar.  To verify the collateral you need to use the code, which destroys the collateral.  Consider this a purchase, not a loan.  (Post in Digital Goods instead)
- Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight.
- Most pre-coins/tokens are worthless, or may take significant time to be worth anything.  
- Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time.  Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come over six months later!
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account)  Examples:  Steam

I've said it many times, but I'll say it again:
1. You are a beginner, which makes it almost 0% likely for you to take out loan without collateral (unless one of the users goes crazy and decides to lose his $25)
2. Look at it from the outside; a newcomer came, offers invalid collateral and wants to take a debt, would you give your money to such a person? Answer is no
3. Will you waste your time continuing this pointless topic?100% yes

Just close this topic and enjoy your life.

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June 08, 2024, 03:33:33 PM
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I can't afford collateral in the form of money, I could give my TIA private key though it doesn't provide you much security since I can still have access.

I hope you read that before you posted your application.

What is considered collateral?

Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Ethereum (also written as ETH).  Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.  Try localbitcoins.com

What is not considered collateral?

- Merit.  Bitcointalk Merit is not a commodity and is not meant to be traded.  Asking or doing so may get you negative trust (Trade with Extreme Caution!)
- Items they want to sell.  They don't want it back, so they will default.  It's scammy unethical behavior and will lead to negative trust.  Check their recent posts!
- Items not in hand.  Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default!  Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box.
- Future income.  You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt.
- Identification.  So what if they can prove who they are.  Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds?  You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does.  ID is useless.
- Games codes or similar.  To verify the collateral you need to use the code, which destroys the collateral.  Consider this a purchase, not a loan.  (Post in Digital Goods instead)
- Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight.
- Most pre-coins/tokens are worthless, or may take significant time to be worth anything.  
- Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time.  Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come over six months later!
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account)  Examples:  Steam

I've said it many times, but I'll say it again:
1. You are a beginner, which makes it almost 0% likely for you to take out loan without collateral (unless one of the users goes crazy and decides to lose his $25)
2. Look at it from the outside; a newcomer came, offers invalid collateral and wants to take a debt, would you give your money to such a person? Answer is no
3. Will you waste your time continuing this pointless topic?100% yes

Just close this topic and enjoy your life.

Hello, just answering your reply.

1- About the collateral thing, as I said I can't afford money thats why I was open to give the private key, I guess it's better than nothing as you could withdraw the money as soon as the time expires, though I could too.
2- I'm posting my reputation from other websites and I don't mind searching in trading discords where I have wandering around, I think I look at it from the outside enough to give some kind of more trust to whoever is open to it.
3- I'm always grateful for all kinds of replies as it cleans the community, but I won't be closing the topic to be honest, if a user goes crazy as you say I don't mind talking to him in private and make he feels less crazy.

Thank you.
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June 08, 2024, 03:53:34 PM
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Do not waste your time, no one can lend you money on this forum because you have no reputation on this forum and because your account is not having any quality that can make someone to lend you money.

There are online banks, fintechs, loan apps and other means that you can easily borrow fiat after they go through your bank account transaction history.

If you are working somewhere, you can talk to your boss about it.

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June 08, 2024, 03:58:12 PM
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Do not waste your time, no one can lend you money on this forum because you have no reputation on this forum and because your account is not having any quality that can make someone to lend you money.

There are online banks, fintechs, loan apps and other means that you can easily borrow fiat after they go through your bank account transaction history.

If you are working somewhere, you can talk to your boss about it.

Thank you for your answer, I will try to create a reputation and grow here too, but as said I won't be closing it.
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June 08, 2024, 09:06:39 PM
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Asking for 25$.

Repaying 35$ on 15/06.

Source of income is funds that will be unstaked from TIA chain.

Wallet (USDT - TRC20): TZG7g2AseTfy2YofTbr8hziaUQBSGX8eMm

As I don't have reputation on bitcointalk I don't mind in giving more details about it or posting my playerauctions/gameflip profiles where I have rep but haven't used them for a long time.

Thanks.


The amount is not too big but I do not think anyone will agree to give you a single loan based on your rank and reputation. If you could increase your rank and reputation then you might be able to get this loan even more than this amount.

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June 08, 2024, 09:16:55 PM
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Thank you for your answer, I will try to create a reputation and grow here too, but as said I won't be closing it.

Your reputation is growing!  New users now see you as untrustworthy.   

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June 08, 2024, 10:49:14 PM
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Asking for 25$.

Repaying 35$ on 15/06.

Source of income is funds that will be unstaked from TIA chain.

Wallet (USDT - TRC20): TZG7g2AseTfy2YofTbr8hziaUQBSGX8eMm

As I don't have reputation on bitcointalk I don't mind in giving more details about it or posting my playerauctions/gameflip profiles where I have rep but haven't used them for a long time.

Thanks.


The amount is not too big but I do not think anyone will agree to give you a single loan based on your rank and reputation. If you could increase your rank and reputation then you might be able to get this loan even more than this amount.

Thought it would help if I added some websites where I have reputation. Thanks.
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June 08, 2024, 11:26:24 PM
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Thank you for your answer, I will try to create a reputation and grow here too, but as said I won't be closing it.

Your reputation is growing!  New users now see you as untrustworthy.   

That's a great one haha.
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