Why are mod not locking long threads on the gambling board discussion anymore

[Dunamisx]

Please after page 3, why not locking the thread again on gambling board? It may no be done for all threads, but moderators can easily see some threads to lock instead of repetitive posts.

Maybe people like us have not yet joined the forum when all these were in place, nut i will say that locking a thread should only be on the reason if it had not been given any reply after crossing a particular numbers of pages, some discussions could be as better as having it continues even if its over 10 pages if you're following up the discussion thread, which make me to feel from my own opinion that a page may be allowed to get to 10 as it may be before locking up if there were no more discussions on it.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Some people will just enter the forum and read what someone on page 1 posted and quote it and what he will post at page 6 or 7 or more. What would have been posted repeatedly on page 1, 2, or 3. Some people will even be posting what they have posted before on another way.

Please after page 3, why not locking the thread again on gambling board? It may no be done for all threads, but moderators can easily see some threads to lock instead of repetitive posts.

Incessant spamming will never end in this forum.... I'd rather bet my account on this one; There's absolutely no perfect way to totally eradicate repetitive postings... Absolutely not! You wanna pronounce it as a punishable offense? They'll somehow get past that as well.

Shit has been happening in the gambling section; including the repetition of self-acclaimed, already discussed topics... Instances are like -- someone pops out of nowhere with this same old, exegerratedly repeated bizarre post - WTF is wrong with people creating threads about gambling addition?? C'mon!!  One person dare comes up with their own grammatical beautification, another follows suit... Sometimes, i don't even know what gambling discussions to post in..

[PX-Z]

What I knew about gambling discussion board before was that if a thread is going more than 5 pages already, moderator will lock the thread. It was kind of fun at the time.

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Please after page 3, why not locking the thread again on gambling board? It may no be done for all threads, but moderators can easily see some threads to lock instead of repetitive posts.

Simply put, no one reports it that goes in their moderate dashboard/panel/log. I'm not so sure if mods will go by gambling board, put his time in the line to keep checking every threads and do the mod functions.
Well, that's what i always thought unless not otherwise.

[Poker Player]

If signature spam and shitposting is something that will keep this forum alive, then we should refrain from reports as often as possible - although realistically, compared to a few years ago, the number of reports is very low. It's not that there is no reason for reports, but it is obvious that many who actively did it got tired of the obvious fight with windmills.

Here I disagree with you. If there is someone who constantly spams in the section, or who shitposts or who breaks the rules we should act against him by reporting and tagging. A recent example would be “unlimitedmoneygenerator” aka “GluttonyY”.

And I don't think it's wrong to report threads that are too long to be locked or some if they are low value. But being aware that that section is what it is, that it has been very important in the history of Bitcoin and Bitcointalk, and that the discussions are not going to be of great quality usually. Besides that it is what keeps the forum traffic alive today.

[Lucius]

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At this moment, I could report over 30 topics that have at least 15+ pages and are not in the Gambling board, and in which members are literally beating a dead horse without the OP getting at least 1 merit or writing something in that topic for several months. However, when I see how some members react to their topic being locked, and when I see that most of them don't mind spam megathreads, I no longer have the will to engage in such things.

It would be logical for each member to take care to close his own topic when it becomes completely meaningless and irrelevant. Those who do it are less than 1%.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Perhaps you can start yourself. If you write a report to the moderators with a request to close the topic because it has long exhausted its subject, I think that the moderators will not refuse you this. But really, it’s worth talking about topics that have crossed the boundaries of discussion; there are a lot of them, and they are very long; the answers are neither unique nor useful. Moreover, it is safe to say that no one reads them.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

To behonest, I do agree that there are some topics that should be locked on the gambling board if such topics start to grow into long pages that could really contain lots of spamming comments. It doesn't necessarily mean that moderators should lock any topic that exceeds 5 pages; topics should be locked if spamming is continuous. Members here should learn to lock their topic after they have gotten satisfied with the level of knowledge they seek from it. I usually lock some of my topics when I know that there is really nothing to discuss again. 

[Ojima-ojo]

The moderators are doing a great job with moderating the Gambling discussion board already because the locking of the thread may not generally originates from the page's getting up to 5 page's, because sometimes you see thread that is just getting to 3 or even first page getting locked, so regardless of how many pages the thread is if moderators fine it becoming spam intended it get locked at the very point.


We have some threads in the Gambling board that is already running into 100 pages or above and yet the discussions on that thread are all relevant on on the topics, we have almost 5 threads in that board that are running into hundreds of page's and not a spam fist ground.


So is all about the quality of the discussions going on on the thread that warrant it to remain open or get kicked.

[SamReomo]

Please after page 3, why not locking the thread again on gambling board?

I believe most of the posts on this forum are created at gambling board and if those threads are locked at just 3 pages then surely the number of posts will also reduce. It won't be helpful to stop spamming because the ones who spam will find an alternative way to do that.

The spammers will always be there no matter if a user's posts at that board get limited to just 5 per day because that's the board where most signature participants make posts as its mandatory for them and some of those participants will surely do spamming in order to increase their weekly payout.

I believe such step could limit the threads where users at page 4-10 could create some good and valuable posts and that's not going to be a useful step. I believe instead of locking a thread at page 3, a moderator should lock it at page 15 but only if needed, otherwise it's not a good step to lock a user's thread.

[_BlackStar]

Moderation on gambling board has always existed – of course moderator do it based on reports. Previously I have reported many posts on gambling board and also some topics that have to be closed when the case or topic creation goal has been achieved - but this is a tedious job despite the fact that this is part of the user contribution to the forum.

Unfortunately I can no longer access how many posts and threads on the gambling board I have reported and handled by moderators - that's because my reporting history has been lost.

There are a few consequences I can think of when you force moderators to lock topics that are more than 5 to 10 page:

• Some users will create new topics whose discussions are not much different from the topics that have been locked.
• More and more unimportant topics include made-up stories.

[hilariousandco]

What I knew about gambling discussion board before was that if a thread is going more than 5 pages already, moderator will lock the thread. It was kind of fun at the time.

This isn't a rule. Threads are usually locked if they're reported and a mod deems them as run their course.

[KingsDen]

What I knew about gambling discussion board before was that if a thread is going more than 5 pages already, moderator will lock the thread. It was kind of fun at the time.

This isn't a rule. Threads are usually locked if they're reported and a mod deems them as run their course.

Thanks for clarification, I was about telling OP that what he mentioned wasn't a rule. I don't support the idea of locking a thread after the 5th page because some threads could still be relevant after some years. Besides, if threads are readily locked as proposed by OP, it will lead to more spam because spammers will tend to create more new threads when the one they discuss similar topics is locked.

[Lucius]

This isn't a rule. Threads are usually locked if they're reported and a mod deems them as run their course.

It seems that some members think that things on this forum take care of themselves, that is, that the moderators patrol the forum and delete posts, move/lock topics and ban bad users. If today we have less than 2000 reports per month, and a few years ago we had record months with almost 50 000 reports, then it is a little clearer why it seems to some that the moderators are not doing their job.

[hilariousandco]

This isn't a rule. Threads are usually locked if they're reported and a mod deems them as run their course.

It seems that some members think that things on this forum take care of themselves, that is, that the moderators patrol the forum and delete posts, move/lock topics and ban bad users. If today we have less than 2000 reports per month, and a few years ago we had record months with almost 50 000 reports, then it is a little clearer why it seems to some that the moderators are not doing their job.

I think most mods will handle something if they come across it but staff only get paid for reports (with some other unknown factors involved) so if there's less reports coming in then spam is more likely to stay unless it gets reported. I barely browse the forum at all these days and tend to just stick to reports and the threads I frequent in my watch-list and I suppose that's probably true for many other mods. I think there should be some benefit for users reporting like badges that come with some special privileges etc as it's a thankless task and it's very rare we add new mods based on their reporting so that's another lack of incentive. Maybe we could even give some small BTC prizes to some of the most active reporters etc.

[Lucius]

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I think there should be some benefit for users reporting like badges that come with some special privileges etc as it's a thankless task and it's very rare we add new mods based on their reporting so that's another lack of incentive. Maybe we could even give some small BTC prizes to some of the most active reporters etc.

The majority agreed that badges would be something that would further motivate users to be more active when it comes to using the "report to moderator" button, so I wonder why the admin hasn't done it so far - because it's not something technically demanding. However, even if this happens, it should be done in a smart way so that it does not happen that some people start making hundreds of unnecessary reports a day in order to get badges as soon as possible. Also, the limit for getting such a badge should be high, at least 5000 good reports or maybe even more than that.

As for the BTC rewards, I feel that it can be very motivating, but when it comes to money, there will always be those who will try to abuse it, even if it means that they will put their alt farms into operation, create as much spam as possible and then report themselves.

[xLays]

After you posted this topic, several threads have been locked. I replied to or participated in the discussion on five of those threads that locked. Its better for this kind of thread to be locked rather than moved to off-topic, like a few weeks ago when some threads were posted in the gambling discussion are move to off topic board that results some of the signature participants didn't get paid because of that. (I'm not saying that because of moderator who moved the thread is the reason why some signature participants not get paid.) It's always because of the signature participants who posted on that topic.

[Halab]

so I wonder why the admin hasn't done it so far - because it's not something technically demanding.

Do a search on a Theymos post in Meta containing "can of worms" and you will see that he's looked into that but it's more complicated than it looks.
And if I remember correctly, I read in the Staff section that Theymos has reworked the reports page, so it's not really standard any more. (This info isn't 100% accurate, I must have read it a long time ago).
Maybe one day PowerGlove (or someone else) will come up with a patch .

[_act_]

If signature spam and shitposting is something that will keep this forum alive, then we should refrain from reports as often as possible - although realistically, compared to a few years ago, the number of reports is very low. It's not that there is no reason for reports, but it is obvious that many who actively did it got tired of the obvious fight with windmills.

There is nothing to get tired of. There are many people that are constantly reporting posts that are needed to be reported. What you can say is that some people were reporting the posts in the past but they are no more on this forum. But there are still some people that are still reporting posts that need to be reported. People that are reporting posts will likely keep doing that. If you have been reporting posts, do not be tired of it at all. It is exciting and makes this forum better.

[UmerIdrees]

After you posted this topic, several threads have been locked. I replied to or participated in the discussion on five of those threads that locked. Its better for this kind of thread to be locked rather than moved to off-topic, like a few weeks ago when some threads were posted in the gambling discussion are move to off topic board that results some of the signature participants didn't get paid because of that. (I'm not saying that because of moderator who moved the thread is the reason why some signature participants not get paid.) It's always because of the signature participants who posted on that topic.

Moving and locking the threads are two different things and should not be mix together. If a few of the gambling threads were moved to "off topic", that means that those topics were suitable in the gambling threads and moved. This does not matter if those threads had a few pages or many pages, they would be moved because they didn't belong there.

Now coming to locking the long gambling threads, I think this is not only the mods' responsibility but also the topic starter to check his threads and lock them if it has enough or too many replies. How about giving a temporary ban to the OP of each thread if his thread reaches 50 pages and still he has not locked it. Obviously, the ANN threads in gambling sections and sports discussion threads should be excluded from this rule.
Also, this can be applied to other sections too, including the Bitcoin discussion sections etc.

[Coyster]

How about giving a temporary ban to the OP of each thread if his thread reaches 50 pages and still he has not locked it. Obviously, the ANN threads in gambling sections and sports discussion threads should be excluded from this rule.
Also, this can be applied to other sections too, including the Bitcoin discussion sections etc.

This is too harsh and it would never be implemented. The decision that a thread has run its course or not is somewhat subjective, so you can't dish out temporary bans because a user didn't lock their thread that's over 50 pages, what about users that are inactive. The forum runs in a very free way for its users, this goes against that.

I don't think there needs to be any rule regarding threads that are over so many pages, just report them to the moderators if you think it has been overrun by spammers and let the moderators decide.