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June 26, 2024, 04:26:55 PM
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In my case, I always keep looking for new game to play whenever I already made a huge profit on a certain game since I believe that game RTP will always take effect to breakeven me from my profit. So if I win huge amount in a slot games, I will play live games and other games aside from slot.

I will only play the same games on the other to refresh everything and do all over again my gambling process. Also, I’m easy to get board by playing only same game while there’s a lot of game choices available.

We don’t need to settle on one game just because we are doing good on it because there’s a time that you will keep losing on it since that’s how RTP works.

It's a very good strategy, I don't really apply it much and I think that's why sometimes my loss rate increases, personally sometimes I'm a bit lazy to do it, but with you it's like the 2nd person who says something similar, so that's a great sign of what should be done, because I've Always thought that when we're playing the RTP should be very good and that it can benefit us at all times, even Similar to what the house edge does, but that's not the case, you have to do things right and keep Changing the game to see better results, I think the effort is not too much.

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June 26, 2024, 05:40:13 PM
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Yeah, at least it is minimizing losses, because most probably the gambler will still have lost more than their winning.

In the end, it is just a game and hopefully people are having fun while gambling, because there's almost no chance of winning some money overall.

It's all really just a fantasy that someone won, in reality they have paid more to the casino than what they have won.

yes, avoiding ruin is a must
hopefully they are having fun but I bet the deep addicted ones are wasting their money and being miserable by doing it, but seeing no way to escape

crazy, isn't it?

There is no fun or entertainment or enjoyment when a person has entered the addiction phase, instead all their gambling sessions are filled with tension, anxiety and worry, along with the hope of recovering the lost amount.

In gambling, you will never be free from these tensions and worries unless you let go of all that you have lost, build a good sense of responsibility and let go of all that you have lost, and that is useful for better future engagements or in the sense that you will be able to gamble more calmly when you don't think about the amount you have lost.

In gambling there is no advantage that gamblers have if they are casual gamblers who have no special relationship with the casino they are gambling in, meaning that you have nothing more than uncertain odds, while on the other hand the possibility of risk will always lurk, meaning that it is a ridiculous mindset or idea to continue to dedicate yourself blindly to gambling such as by taking various aggressive actions in terms of putting the amount of budget or time involvement for an activity that only provides opportunities without guarantees.



I think it'll be both, even after addiction if they have just bad feelings they'd stop
so there must be some pleasure
even if the pleasure is not fullfilling and the dopamine hit goes away in a fast manner

makes sense?

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June 26, 2024, 05:47:48 PM
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In my case, I always keep looking for new game to play whenever I already made a huge profit on a certain game since I believe that game RTP will always take effect to breakeven me from my profit. So if I win huge amount in a slot games, I will play live games and other games aside from slot.

I will only play the same games on the other to refresh everything and do all over again my gambling process. Also, I’m easy to get board by playing only same game while there’s a lot of game choices available.

We don’t need to settle on one game just because we are doing good on it because there’s a time that you will keep losing on it since that’s how RTP works.

It's a very good strategy, I don't really apply it much and I think that's why sometimes my loss rate increases, personally sometimes I'm a bit lazy to do it, but with you it's like the 2nd person who says something similar, so that's a great sign of what should be done, because I've Always thought that when we're playing the RTP should be very good and that it can benefit us at all times, even Similar to what the house edge does, but that's not the case, you have to do things right and keep Changing the game to see better results, I think the effort is not too much.

In regarding behavior on trying out chance or modify something or making those kind of strategies or part of it then it would really be that understandable that there would really be those gamblers who would really be having that kind of approach on things on which it would really be that understandable that you would really be trying out to test something and sees out whether its effective or not.
On the moment that you would really be that making money or having those winnings then the primary thought that you would really be having in mind is that it did really actually work and this is something
that will really be the main thing that makes your really that believe and keeps yourself that pushing even more despite of such huge risks that you might be that losing even on the next run.

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June 26, 2024, 05:48:25 PM
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That's for sure, as you said that when someone has entered the addiction phase then obviously what is on their mind is "multiplying" the capital they carry, and with that mindset then of course it is natural that they do not hesitate to take various actions that are even beyond reason or actions that are so aggressive which are all caused by their high hopes and beliefs in winning in gambling.

I will say one of the reasons that makes an addicted gambler always end the gambling session sadly in the sense of losing all the money they have even though at first for example managed to win, and yes of course the reason is none other than because of the very high expectations, they are played by their own expectations so that in the end their mindset is played by these expectations that ultimately make them always fantasize about big wins in gambling, and this is also one of the reasons why an addicted gambler is always difficult to withdraw at the right time.

Yes, the inability to withdraw at the right time can be concluded that they are already very addicted, as I said above, played by hope so that in any situation they will always think that if they try to continue the gambling session then they will be able to get a bigger win.

Addiction is even worse than what you describe, as what you describe still has some logic to it, an addicted gambler does not care about the profits they may obtain, they gamble despite the fact they know they are going to suffer huge losses, the only thing they care about is to gamble for as long as they can with the money they have available, I know that it does not make sense, and yet that is exactly what it happens not only with gambling addiction but with any addiction in general.



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June 26, 2024, 08:14:37 PM
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Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Why not change your strategy or when you win something big, take a break and gives it some days before you gamble again. The excitement and the joy over the last winning would have disappeared from your face and that happiness would have vanish by that time, it will gives you space to think and modify your skills and try again. This will surely help you to avoid losses, even if not all the time at least protect you from over gambling.

I don't know they type of casino that you use but I know some people that are in this situations and what they do is that they temporarily lock their gambling account for some says after the withdrawal and the casino wouldn't open their gambling account until after the period they set has elapse. This help them avoid over gambling and any decision that will make them to want to gamble.

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Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Since you have learned your lessons, next time you win and you think of repeating the same thing, you should think about the result of the last one you did, if you really care about yourself, the last memory would be traumatizing to you and you wouldn't like to experience it again.

Yes if someone made a mistake and repeated same mistakes in the future again that means the person wasn't really hurt by the outcome of the last mistake he made so every mistake is a lesson for the future so I believe he must have learnt his lesson not to gamble more after a win but instead withdraw the money and use it for other things or even if he should gamble it should be after withdrawing the won bet first.

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When you win money, I mean big money and you don't know how to avoid gambling, kindly make 90% of the withdrawals to your wallet or your bank app if you use a local betting platform and then use the rest to gamble, incase you don't win the next games with the rest of the 10% balance you left in the casino, then you will have the one in your wallet to flex and there wouldn't be regret or any disastrous result that you often get and never do the mistake of deposit the same money again unless you are calm and ready next time or preferably following week.

Winning is winning be it a small or big amount so a gambler who doesn't make withdrawal when they win very little amount will still find it difficult to withdraw when they win huge amount because they are always full of greed and will assume that if they stake higher amounts that they will win more but instead they still run into more losses. A gambler who can't withdraw small amount of winning will still end up losing when they win huge because they will feel that they can even win more money with a higher wager and before they realize themselves every thing is almost gone. Just like you said, a responsible gambler makes judicious use of every amount being won and they always withdraw higher percentage of their winnings unlike some greedy gamblers that will even take the risk of gambling with the whole winning and end up losing totally.

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June 26, 2024, 08:46:17 PM
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Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Why not change your strategy or when you win something big, take a break and gives it some days before you gamble again. The excitement and the joy over the last winning would have disappeared from your face and that happiness would have vanish by that time, it will gives you space to think and modify your skills and try again. This will surely help you to avoid losses, even if not all the time at least protect you from over gambling.

I don't know they type of casino that you use but I know some people that are in this situations and what they do is that they temporarily lock their gambling account for some says after the withdrawal and the casino wouldn't open their gambling account until after the period they set has elapse. This help them avoid over gambling and any decision that will make them to want to gamble.
Actually making those kind of breaks or pause on your gambling sessions in between doesnt literally could affect the odds on how you would really be able to win on the next game or session that you are tending to deal on with. Somehow when it comes to emotional aspect then having these pauses could really help us at least on trying to control that greed feeling on the moment that you are really that making some money or winnings.
It would really be that so damn hard to have such control at the moment that you would really be finding yourself on such condition on which you are really having that kind of urge when it comes to this aspect.
Making withdrawals would really be indeed the best way to secure out and make yourself called as a winner but on the moment that you would really be just that losing it on your next gambling session
then i wont really be calling this to be winner. You are really just that delaying yourself on experiencing on the same losing situation on which it is really just that the same in overall.


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June 27, 2024, 05:00:04 AM
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Winning is winning be it a small or big amount so a gambler who doesn't make withdrawal when they win very little amount will still find it difficult to withdraw when they win huge amount because they are always full of greed and will assume that if they stake higher amounts that they will win more but instead they still run into more losses. A gambler who can't withdraw small amount of winning will still end up losing when they win huge because they will feel that they can even win more money with a higher wager and before they realize themselves every thing is almost gone. Just like you said, a responsible gambler makes judicious use of every amount being won and they always withdraw higher percentage of their winnings unlike some greedy gamblers that will even take the risk of gambling with the whole winning and end up losing totally.
with a sense of greed that dominates them, of course it will not be easy for them to withdraw the winnings they have obtained, whether the amount is small or large. but what is certain is that when they have won a big enough win but there is inherent greed, they will not have the thought of withdrawing it, because they tend to think they are lucky, because it is their lucky day because they have won, so they think they can still get more wins if they continue. gambling, especially with the winnings they have obtained, they can place a larger bet amount to get an even bigger win.

Apart from that, I think every casino has a minimum withdrawal amount, if they have won but the amount has not reached the minimum withdrawal amount, of course they will continue gambling unless they withdraw a nominal amount equal to their capital, because in my opinion gamblers will withdraw a minimum winnings that is already equivalent to the amount. minimum withdrawal set by the casino. including those who gamble responsibly, if their winnings have not reached the minimum withdrawal amount they may cash it out but only equal to the amount of capital they used, so small winnings are used as capital for gambling with results that cannot be guaranteed to win or lose but what is clear is that defeat will dominate more than victory.

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June 27, 2024, 05:13:18 AM
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Yes, that feeling is very natural, you could say that when we play and we do well, that game can become one of our favorites, I think that happens to all of us, that's what happened to me with dice, crash, roulette, poker and slots, when I see that type of games where I do well I always play to see and try my luck, it's very normal so in this order of ideas it can be said that it's very likely that one will come back with more hopes of continuing to win, but one must be prepared to lose too, because it's the most normal thing in the world, at least in casinos things work like that.


In my case, I always keep looking for new game to play whenever I already made a huge profit on a certain game since I believe that game RTP will always take effect to breakeven me from my profit. So if I win huge amount in a slot games, I will play live games and other games aside from slot.

I will only play the same games on the other to refresh everything and do all over again my gambling process. Also, I’m easy to get board by playing only same game while there’s a lot of game choices available.

We don’t need to settle on one game just because we are doing good on it because there’s a time that you will keep losing on it since that’s how RTP works.

This RTP theory usually works on gambling games but does not work on betting. Yes, it is better to play new slot game if you getting few wins from one game as keep playing the game makes yourself somewhat predictable and you have more chances of losing. Although there is no logic behind this but it usually happens and those who gamble a lot may have experienced it too.


Back on the topic of gambling earnings withdrawals, i think since most of us cannot control our urge to gamble, and especially if we have a lot of balance in our bankroll it will make us wish for more gambling. So the best thing is to withdraw your earnings from gambling and keep only limited funds on the sites (as per your initial gambling plan).

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June 27, 2024, 06:29:38 AM
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Real winners knows when to withdraw, know when to give up, and knows when to say he had enough and let it go.
I've heard it many times before that there's only one way to be a winner in gambling. Once you win a large amount, walk away, never come back, not even a penny or a dollar spent in gambling again. That's a winner.

But I doubt that's easy to do. We always comes back because we are trying to repeat what happened to us but it just doesn't go that way for most gambler who are testing their luck.
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June 27, 2024, 08:18:00 AM
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It's true like that, of course there is a very small chance that we can get a win that can recover our losses, but luck is there, even though we don't know when it will happen, luck will definitely happen, our job when gambling is to be patient. Don't gamble beyond your limits by continuing to gamble, because even that doesn't guarantee you will win. but with patience we can limit the gambling we do, I'm not saying that with patience we can win because winning at gambling is not based on that, of course because luck is what will give us victory, so luck will determine the gambling we do just by Patience can prevent major losses such as losing amounts of money that are beyond our capabilities.

Indeed, the most correct thing to do with winnings that you have obtained is to cash them in to enjoy with friends who really know about gambling. and from here we must be able to see which friends we will invite to enjoy winnings from gambling, because there are people who are not happy with gambling even with the winnings they have obtained. Apart from that, players only have a small chance of winning compared to the greater chance of losing, so as much as possible we must be able to withdraw the winnings that have been obtained by gambling, lest the winnings that have been obtained by gambling be lost again because of greed.
You will difficult to recover your lose in gambling because gambling will not lets you to gets your money easily and even gambling will takes all of your money without left. You will only regrets when you see you don't have any money because you use all of your money to playing gambling. But you must remember that when you can wins, you must withdraws your winning and not thinks to keeps playing gambling because that can makes you lose that wins money with all of your money. The winners in gambling can gets tempts to keeps playing gambling, especially when they see their wins can be used to increase their capital to playing gambling. But that will not helps you to grow your money from playing gambling because you will not knows what will happens to you in the next rounds. So if you can stops your gambling activity and withdraws the wins money, you will have a chance to enjoy the wins money.

With enjoy the wins money with your friends and family, that will brings another happy experience with them. You will have a good moment with them without thinks about anything and enjoy the wins money. Sometimes we forgets to celebrate what we gets because we thinks that we can gets more money if we keeps playing gambling. We don't have to thinks like that because we will not have a big chance to wins much money from gambling.

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June 27, 2024, 08:24:18 AM
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Real winners knows when to withdraw, know when to give up, and knows when to say he had enough and let it go.
I've heard it many times before that there's only one way to be a winner in gambling. Once you win a large amount, walk away, never come back, not even a penny or a dollar spent in gambling again. That's a winner.

But I doubt that's easy to do. We always comes back because we are trying to repeat what happened to us but it just doesn't go that way for most gambler who are testing their luck.

That's right, the hardest opponent to win against is yourself. Controlling your mood and overcoming greedy emotions is something a gambler often cannot do. Out of 100 people, 99 are the same. When winning, everyone wants to continue playing to earn a large amount of money, and just like that they continue to engage in games of chance. Winning a match is not difficult, winning a day is also not difficult. It's a little harder to win one week and it's really difficult to win consistently. So we will lose again if we continue to play.
I just have a simple way to win in gambling for everyone, play with confidence. After winning, spend all that money on charity, ensuring you won't be able to lose again. Otherwise, even if you use the money to buy land, buy a car, build a house, or convert it into cash, you can still play again and lose everything.

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Real winners knows when to withdraw, know when to give up, and knows when to say he had enough and let it go.
I've heard it many times before that there's only one way to be a winner in gambling. Once you win a large amount, walk away, never come back, not even a penny or a dollar spent in gambling again. That's a winner.

But I doubt that's easy to do. We always comes back because we are trying to repeat what happened to us but it just doesn't go that way for most gambler who are testing their luck.

The thing is that for most gamblers the best move is actually not to play ever. That would minimize their losses.

Most gamblers, by far, are in negative when you consider lifetime investments.

This is of course not often discussed, as gamblers usually lose quietly and win loudly.

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June 27, 2024, 10:44:24 AM
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In addition, it is important for the player to understand how often and after what winnings he needs to withdraw funds, because if he does not do this, then all the money will remain in the casino and will ultimately be lost. Sometimes we have to make a conclusion in order to buy flowers for our wife or girlfriend, to go on a trip, such things will stay with us for the rest of our lives, this must be done, I hope many players will hear me.

I agree, a lot of players need to think in advance before gambling: "how often am I going to withdraw money?" Because in betting or in a casino, emotions are so strong that they overshadow the mind, and it is necessary to think about how much to play for, and how much and when to withdraw in order to live. It is clear that this is not an easy topic for every gambler, because if someone has withdrawn money, then he cannot play on them, but gambling, and the winnings will be less.
Therefore, many gamblers withdraw little money and live poorly. And then it turns out that they lost the entire deposit and did not leave a living.
Therefore, you need to try to withdraw money from the casino more often, without forgetting about your standard of living.
The fact is that if you don’t withdraw money and don’t spend at least the minimum winnings, then everything turns out in vain, there won’t be any good memories left, only the emotions that the player received thanks to the casino, this to some extent reminds me of people who are dependent on emotions, I would I even dared to call them emotional addicts.

The main thing here is even in the withdrawal process itself, no matter what amount, even if it is very small, but it will allow you to feel your winnings, even if it is the purchase of chewing gum)) Still, a player, as an ordinary person, sometimes needs to reward himself, to feel the joy of this event, otherwise why live at all if you don’t enjoy the rewards and every day you live.

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Addiction is even worse than what you describe, as what you describe still has some logic to it, an addicted gambler does not care about the profits they may obtain, they gamble despite the fact they know they are going to suffer huge losses, the only thing they care about is to gamble for as long as they can with the money they have available, I know that it does not make sense, and yet that is exactly what it happens not only with gambling addiction but with any addiction in general.

You talk about extreme addiction. When a person only thinks about gambling and continues to gamble to fulfill his dopamine and no longer cares about winnings and withdrawals then I think his family should take him to a psychologist. Only gamblers who still think about the budget and occasionally try to take risks can accept the fact that the gambler's win is when making a withdrawal. If you don't make a withdrawal I'm sure someone will try to play at higher stakes because he feels it is prize money, not money from his own pocket. And after finally losing, they regret why they didn't make a withdrawal.

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June 27, 2024, 12:50:44 PM
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Addiction is even worse than what you describe, as what you describe still has some logic to it, an addicted gambler does not care about the profits they may obtain, they gamble despite the fact they know they are going to suffer huge losses, the only thing they care about is to gamble for as long as they can with the money they have available, I know that it does not make sense, and yet that is exactly what it happens not only with gambling addiction but with any addiction in general.

You talk about extreme addiction. When a person only thinks about gambling and continues to gamble to fulfill his dopamine and no longer cares about winnings and withdrawals then I think his family should take him to a psychologist. Only gamblers who still think about the budget and occasionally try to take risks can accept the fact that the gambler's win is when making a withdrawal. If you don't make a withdrawal I'm sure someone will try to play at higher stakes because he feels it is prize money, not money from his own pocket. And after finally losing, they regret why they didn't make a withdrawal.

That's how things works mostly when a gambler already lose his bankroll then he realize and regret the opportunity to cashout, as you mentioned, he thinks that he can continue winning and those amount that supposedly the amount that he can take away from the house if he wisely thinks about the risk, it's tough call and only few experienced gamblers who can make the right decision.

And same with your argument, if the gambler only thinks about gambling and no longer cares about the money then hard addiction already triggered and needed help to cure it, while for those who wisely playing and taking the chance of making some money, withdrawal always the first  option to make sure they will not failed and lose all their money.

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June 27, 2024, 02:41:42 PM
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Why not change your strategy or when you win something big, take a break and gives it some days before you gamble again. The excitement and the joy over the last winning would have disappeared from your face and that happiness would have vanish by that time, it will gives you space to think and modify your skills and try again. This will surely help you to avoid losses, even if not all the time at least protect you from over gambling.

I don't know they type of casino that you use but I know some people that are in this situations and what they do is that they temporarily lock their gambling account for some says after the withdrawal and the casino wouldn't open their gambling account until after the period they set has elapse. This help them avoid over gambling and any decision that will make them to want to gamble.
I used to use the break-taking strategy and I must say, it works like a charm. And, it isn't just about when you win, even when you are losing constantly, you should go ahead and take a break from gambling, if not very long, it should at least be for a few hours, and when you come back afresh, you will have a positive mindset and you will see that there is a change, even though it might not make you win, but it will at least make you avoid excessive gambling and reckless decisions.

When you have won something significant, in that way, it becomes essential for you to take a break from gambling and enjoy your winnings even if you have lost a lot of money before this win, that is how gambling should be, you should move on after your losses and enjoy all your winnings at the fullest.

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June 27, 2024, 03:07:52 PM
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Real winners knows when to withdraw, know when to give up, and knows when to say he had enough and let it go.
I've heard it many times before that there's only one way to be a winner in gambling. Once you win a large amount, walk away, never come back, not even a penny or a dollar spent in gambling again. That's a winner.

But I doubt that's easy to do. We always comes back because we are trying to repeat what happened to us but it just doesn't go that way for most gambler who are testing their luck.
To be honest we have quite a lot of definitions of winning from some people here, including the one you mentioned, that when you get a large amount of money never go back to gambling until, and there are some people who also say that winning is when we withdraw when we get a win.

It may depend on each person's preference in answering but I agree with all of them that when victory is claimed is when we withdraw from gambling, and we can use it, whether we return or not for the next day is your right because you will probably do the same thing again.
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June 27, 2024, 03:20:41 PM
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I just have a simple way to win in gambling for everyone, play with confidence. After winning, spend all that money on charity, ensuring you won't be able to lose again. Otherwise, even if you use the money to buy land, buy a car, build a house, or convert it into cash, you can still play again and lose everything.
There is no formula for consistent wins in gambling, I'll tell you for free that if you fail to gamble responsibly, or gamble with the amount you can afford to lose, no level of charity would save you. You're using charity as a hedge against irresponsible gambling and let me remind you that charity blessed your good works and not your irrational behaviors.

Gamble in moderation or live to face the consequences. The choice is yours.

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June 27, 2024, 03:40:40 PM
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It may depend on each person's preference in answering but I agree with all of them that when victory is claimed is when we withdraw from gambling, and we can use it, whether we return or not for the next day is your right because you will probably do the same thing again.
If we withdraw money from gambling it can be said to be a win and to claim it we have to do it, but not everyone has the same view on that matter, every gambler who always calculates their gambling expenses will usually consider it as a normal withdrawal and not cover the losses they experience. Also, the point is that everyone is different in this regard, I also often withdraw when I win but that doesn't mean I claim that I won the game. for me it is something normal for me who gambles for fun.

Whatever money we withdraw there doesn't mean we can beat the bookies because all bookies definitely win big every day, so don't think we can win against them by just claiming the withdrawal, it's true that if we want to withdraw we can claim our winnings but for them it's just a little bonus for us to play there, because they will take our money again in the next game when we make another deposit the next day, that often happens so I don't withdraw money from gambling sites too often, just make a deposit and continue playing on leisure time.

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