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August 15, 2024, 04:27:09 PM
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We should also ensure we work on our discipline.

Yes, there is no doubt about that, I think that things are always focused on doing better so that there is no doubt that for any circumstance we have the faith and above all the calculation of what we can do, and show you when we should withdraw , I have always talked about the money that we are willing to lose, but in this case things change when you have profits, because the profits must be withdrawn, no matter how little it is  , it is better to have the money in our hands and deposit it, than to leave it in the casino and lose it all.
Withdrawing it no matter how small it is, is a good thoughts for a gambler that haven't lost much during gambling. However there are words that gamblers can say when they need money but while they have the money they will forget what they said earlier and focus on other things. And don't be so surprised that while some win they don't borther to withdraw the little they win, instead continue hoping for more. Anyway it's not everyone gambler that do make this kind of mistakes.

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August 15, 2024, 04:42:24 PM
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If within the world of gambling and betting the only win comes from withdrawing money from the casino, then I cannot help but to find a comparison to what similarly happens in the world of trading.
would be correct to say that while trading the only earning comes when one decides to sell while having unrealized winnings? Otherwise, would those winnings be completely imaginary and still subjected to the volatility of the market itself.

What do you think about it, would be a fair comparison?

I don't think gambling and trading are necessarily the same (it would depend of the trading instruments and the degree of leverage the trader is using to maximize their possible earnings).

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August 15, 2024, 05:35:06 PM
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But most players forget about this house edge because they have been given a high multiplier once in their gambling sessions. I think that is what urges most gamblers to keep on betting even though they have an idea of how the house edge works.
 

Of course, sometimes casinos have to give in and allow some profits to players, otherwise, believe me, no one would go to play Knowing that they have no chance of winning , that is why casinos are so successful, but those profits that some players take is because the casino has so much winning and that releasing a little more is part of what they have to have so that the player stays there, but be careful, the casino complies with leaving that profit, if the player is smart the Withdrawal , if the player has not matured certain Knowledge he continues playing and loses Everything again.

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August 15, 2024, 07:56:00 PM
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There are several important points here that must be paid attention to, namely the actual winnings are when someone makes a withdrawal which means I agree with the OP's idea, and then another thing we need to understand is that if your winnings are still in the casino, especially in your betting balance then It cannot be guaranteed that you will win because of course, as you said, OP and I agree that in gambling there are many things that can be tempting, especially I am sure that many gamblers experience whispers that tell them to gamble, especially to apply greed. when you manage to achieve a number of wins.

And sometimes, even though we are not gambling, when we see other people gambling or hear about the wins that other people have achieved, there will usually be a feeling or desire to gamble within us, which if these thoughts are not immediately diverted, it is possible that we can fall into it and try it. And we return again to the issue of winning, where it is true that the real victory is when you hold the money in your hands in physical form.

Gambling comes with a lot of greed if not properly controlled, keeping your winnings or capital in your bet account is something no one should do especially if you lack discipline because you would always want to keep playing, you can get lucky once or twice but multiple trials means you are hooked and there's a high chance that you might lose everything,..your point is absolutely valid, withdrawing to your bank account and keeping it isn't enough, withdrawing from your bank account and making use of the money is the real winning
Someone who has a safe control can do things that's exotic and unique when keeping their wining in the platform of gambling site, what is necessary is determination, when you're determined in gambling I believe that you will know what to do, but someone who is addicted in gambling is not supposed to have any reservations in gambling, so that's what I us to understand in gambling, because is clear that someone who can not control itself can not associate well in gambling or make reservations of funds in it's gambling websites, so gambling is all about personal policy.

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August 15, 2024, 08:19:35 PM
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A job in the end is simply exchanging your time for money.

What works best is to have investments that turn your capital into more money.

Assets are the key, even if you don't have any, you can start with income and then transition into assets.
There is no doubt about it, the fact that we dedicate Ourselves to work and invest our time is for money, only that sometimes there are jobs that are not well paid , in the case of Investment it is a sure thing, at least I have seen that with Bitcoin , that is clear to me , Already in casinos and sports betting it is like allocating money to fun, where obviously it should be very expensive because it is very easy to lose any amount of money, and although it is possible to win When you do you have to take Advantage of withdrawing.

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August 15, 2024, 08:36:18 PM
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It's a huge difference, but I was referring to the house in that algorithm. The house has more money than all the players. There's no possible means of defeating the house.
Ah of course yes, such a thing is impossible, then given this the house edge is supremely powerful, it will always exist and it is something that under no Circumstances can any player beat it, just as you say, the casino algorithm does not allow it, this has to be seen as one of the best things to understand what we are up against when playing in a casino and not delude Ourselves into thinking that the Casino will be the solution to everything, the Solution to a safe income or even a job.

In the end, yes, as you said, this is the reason why it is very important to know and understand what we are actually dealing with.

Understanding the house edge like Maths classes, most players would skip learning how it works. The house edge entails a player's losses the more he plays. This definition clarifies why players shouldn't chase losses, it only makes the house richer and dwindles the gambler's money.

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August 15, 2024, 08:39:14 PM
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There are several important points here that must be paid attention to, namely the actual winnings are when someone makes a withdrawal which means I agree with the OP's idea, and then another thing we need to understand is that if your winnings are still in the casino, especially in your betting balance then It cannot be guaranteed that you will win because of course, as you said, OP and I agree that in gambling there are many things that can be tempting, especially I am sure that many gamblers experience whispers that tell them to gamble, especially to apply greed. when you manage to achieve a number of wins.

And sometimes, even though we are not gambling, when we see other people gambling or hear about the wins that other people have achieved, there will usually be a feeling or desire to gamble within us, which if these thoughts are not immediately diverted, it is possible that we can fall into it and try it. And we return again to the issue of winning, where it is true that the real victory is when you hold the money in your hands in physical form.

Gambling comes with a lot of greed if not properly controlled, keeping your winnings or capital in your bet account is something no one should do especially if you lack discipline because you would always want to keep playing, you can get lucky once or twice but multiple trials means you are hooked and there's a high chance that you might lose everything,..your point is absolutely valid, withdrawing to your bank account and keeping it isn't enough, withdrawing from your bank account and making use of the money is the real winning
Someone who has a safe control can do things that's exotic and unique when keeping their wining in the platform of gambling site, what is necessary is determination, when you're determined in gambling I believe that you will know what to do, but someone who is addicted in gambling is not supposed to have any reservations in gambling, so that's what I us to understand in gambling, because is clear that someone who can not control itself can not associate well in gambling or make reservations of funds in it's gambling websites, so gambling is all about personal policy.
Self control on what it do matters on which same as you said that on the time that you do find yourself having those kind of conditions that you cant really be able to make yourself having to stop on the time that you are really that winning then it do really strongly shows that you dont have that good self control or discipline or simply you are already that addicted to gambling. We do know that most common behavior of a gambling addict is that they dont able to have that good control about into their decisions on which they would really be mainly thinking about on having more. This is why they would really be that getting involved into something on which they woudl really be losing up that control and moderation when it comes into this aspect. The real winnings is indeed talking about withdrawals.

Somehow it would really be just that too easy to say but on the time that you would really be on such condition then it would really be hard on doing so. Lets say that you arent that addicted but
still you do struggle on making decisions specially on withdrawal then it would really be just that something casual to happen to anyone because when greed kicks in then it would really be
that so hard on making decisions specially on the moment that you will really be thinking up on making up some withdrawals of your winnings on which it would really be the most challenging
part on the time that you do gambling.

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But also you show consideration for your target and strategy that you use both when you win and lose. If you can compare those together, you will find out if it is your personal mistake that comes from greediness in having a higher target or it is just based on your luck.

This is very common, the fact that we play and we are winning, we are People who will Always want more, and when it comes to money and we believe that we are lucky or on a roll , we are looking for the best of the best, and greed is something that we have in a certain sense and for me that is what we must control the most, as a challenge if we are not successful with that things will turn out very bad for us, sometimes we must control all these types of things.

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Exactly, they will bet more and if lucky is not there for them they will still lose the money they won. I have come to believe that any money in your betting account is no longer yours until you withdraw them, but the problem is that the same gamble with still deposit another someday and it might be bigger than what he withdraw earlier. However, what's important is that he withdrawed the money the day he won it.
That's actually good and it's true.

Money that you see on your balance in your gambling accounts are not yet yours until you finally withdraw it. And that's why you have to be cautious with that.

When you're finally and able to withdraw it, then that's when the celebration goes on with how you've won your bets.

that's true
it's only real if you materialize it somehow, even if this somehow is withdrawing bitcoin, tether or ethereum to your cold wallet and leaving it there to your children
that's enough materialization
if you just leave your balance in the casino and play play play get lost in hitting the button you'll probably end up losing it all again.
Yeah, materializing it to become actually yours. Many gamblers don't do that because it seems shiny when they're seeing their account balances with sums of money.

But that's not the victory that other gamblers want. As long as you're able to withdraw it and you're getting the money and spending it to whichever purpose you want it to be, that's how it should go.

Not a matter if decided to redeposit it to your casino account but make sure that you're able to spend it somewhere else.

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But also you show consideration for your target and strategy that you use both when you win and lose. If you can compare those together, you will find out if it is your personal mistake that comes from greediness in having a higher target or it is just based on your luck.

This is very common, the fact that we play and we are winning, we are People who will Always want more, and when it comes to money and we believe that we are lucky or on a roll , we are looking for the best of the best, and greed is something that we have in a certain sense and for me that is what we must control the most, as a challenge if we are not successful with that things will turn out very bad for us, sometimes we must control all these types of things.


Greed is what inside us when we are in the winning streaks not to sum it all but most of those gamblers who keep winning their bets mostly wants to keep pushing forward, they will not stop as they think that it was their lucky day and they wanted to maximize the opportunities not knowing that along the way losing streaks will follow, it wise to stop while you are still in the winning side, maximizing your luck and convert it to a withdrawal of your earnings is the best way to enjoy your game.

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This is very common, the fact that we play and we are winning, we are People who will Always want more, and when it comes to money and we believe that we are lucky or on a roll , we are looking for the best of the best..cut cut

I understand what you're saying. For me, even though I'm not an expert, I think it's really important to control the urge to always want more. It's true, when things are going well, it's easy to want more and risk losing everything. It's better to stop when you're ahead and enjoy your earnings.

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Ah of course yes, such a thing is impossible, then given this the house edge is supremely powerful, it will always exist and it is something that under no Circumstances can any player beat it, just as you say, the casino algorithm does not allow it, this has to be seen as one of the best things to understand what we are up against when playing in a casino and not delude Ourselves into thinking that the Casino will be the solution to everything, the Solution to a safe income or even a job.

In the end, yes, as you said, this is the reason why it is very important to know and understand what we are actually dealing with.

Understanding the house edge like Maths classes, most players would skip learning how it works. The house edge entails a player's losses the more he plays. This definition clarifies why players shouldn't chase losses, it only makes the house richer and dwindles the gambler's money.

Yes, it is indeed difficult to understand and comprehend, but the most important thing is to realize it, in the sense of realizing that overall the casino will always be the party that always excels compared to gamblers at any time.
And I think the reason is clear that the casino is the party that from the beginning created and implemented the algorithm in every game provided, there is no contribution or interference from the gamblers in terms of creating and implementing the algorithm in each game.
And as you said that this is the reason why gamblers are always advised to treat gambling according to the limits they have, or never exceed the limit especially in terms of the amount of budget being wagered.

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This is very common, the fact that we play and we are winning, we are People who will Always want more, and when it comes to money and we believe that we are lucky or on a roll , we are looking for the best of the best..cut cut

I understand what you're saying. For me, even though I'm not an expert, I think it's really important to control the urge to always want more. It's true, when things are going well, it's easy to want more and risk losing everything. It's better to stop when you're ahead and enjoy your earnings.
every opportunity one has to win and cash out from betting shouldn't be neglected for any reason. The urge will always come that will give you the impression that your next gamble will yield a better result but that's always not the case. You've got to learn how to know when your impulse are being deceptive and when it's actually greed that's gaining the better of you. Your level of experience as a gambler does not translate to you becoming an expert at it. Even if you assume that you're an expert, it's still your ability to know when to opt out and actually opting out in the end that goes to show that you're an expert in gambling. Statement like "if I had cashed out when I had the opportunity, I would have won a certain amount of money" doesn't translet to you winning that amount of money. Real win involves playing your bet and getting a topup from it. It's even better to get a small top up and go home with it than going home with stories regarding how it would have been your lucky day had it been that you didn't go back to gamble off all the ones you initially won.

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The money that is not in our wallet is not our own. Even though we have placed a bet and we are expecting to win big bet, the money is still not our because the money is not yet in our wallet. Gambling is quite rewarding and we can make lots of money from different bets. Our bets is to make money from gambling so that we can make withdrawals and take care of our bills. Gambling has been a very good alternatives for us to make money from gambling since we can easily make money without going through much stress. Our motive is to make money and cash out big from gambling which is every gamblers dream.
If you think the money is not in your wallet, then you won't be able to gamble. As gambler can win and withdraw he fund to the wallet of the gambler and those who are addicted on gambling may deposit the funds when the gambler is in loss so what is the benefit of taking the fund on self wallet and the wallet of the gambling site??

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August 19, 2024, 12:57:16 PM
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This is very common, the fact that we play and we are winning, we are People who will Always want more, and when it comes to money and we believe that we are lucky or on a roll , we are looking for the best of the best..cut cut

I understand what you're saying. For me, even though I'm not an expert, I think it's really important to control the urge to always want more. It's true, when things are going well, it's easy to want more and risk losing everything. It's better to stop when you're ahead and enjoy your earnings.
every opportunity one has to win and cash out from betting shouldn't be neglected for any reason. The urge will always come that will give you the impression that your next gamble will yield a better result but that's always not the case. You've got to learn how to know when your impulse are being deceptive and when it's actually greed that's gaining the better of you. Your level of experience as a gambler does not translate to you becoming an expert at it. Even if you assume that you're an expert, it's still your ability to know when to opt out and actually opting out in the end that goes to show that you're an expert in gambling. Statement like "if I had cashed out when I had the opportunity, I would have won a certain amount of money" doesn't translet to you winning that amount of money. Real win involves playing your bet and getting a topup from it. It's even better to get a small top up and go home with it than going home with stories regarding how it would have been your lucky day had it been that you didn't go back to gamble off all the ones you initially won.

Exactly, better to quit and stop while you still got something than you regret and just make it a fail attempt, it's your chance and opportunity to cashout while you still can, but if you push your way to keep playing and instead of taking that chance of winning to become greed and push yourself to try winning more.

It's a problem where most of the gamblers failed to wisely work on and keep trying to beat the house as greed controls them.

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Exactly, better to quit and stop while you still got something than you regret and just make it a fail attempt, it's your chance and opportunity to cashout while you still can, but if you push your way to keep playing and instead of taking that chance of winning to become greed and push yourself to try winning more.

It's a problem where most of the gamblers failed to wisely work on and keep trying to beat the house as greed controls them.

Exactly, as the saying goes that prevention is always better than cure, meaning that cashing out early is always better than regretting when everything is gone, and this is the reason why people often say the following as well as suggesting that the ability to stop at the right time is a skill that a gambler must have.
I think it will not be too difficult for someone to practice this action if only they are aware of the risks and also understand that there is always no guarantee and certainty to always be able to end the game with a win.

That is also the reason why I and maybe some people here often suggest to first understand and know about what and how the activity you are currently engaged in is, because if you understand and know everything then I am sure that all actions and decisions that you will take will always be measured and will not exceed your capabilities.

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We should also ensure we work on our discipline.

Yes, there is no doubt about that, I think that things are always focused on doing better so that there is no doubt that for any circumstance we have the faith and above all the calculation of what we can do, and show you when we should withdraw , I have always talked about the money that we are willing to lose, but in this case things change when you have profits, because the profits must be withdrawn, no matter how little it is  , it is better to have the money in our hands and deposit it, than to leave it in the casino and lose it all.
It is good when we make winnings, we withdraw it so that we don't have to lose lose to money to gambling too. There are so many people that have been leaving their money in gambling and don't do anything about it withdrawing their funds. It is good we make plans and know how we are going to making our bets rather then depending on making more money without any withdrawals. It is when we make withdrawals that we are going to know that we have money and we can do whatever we want with it not funds that are with the casino we are using online.

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We should also ensure we work on our discipline.

Yes, there is no doubt about that, I think that things are always focused on doing better so that there is no doubt that for any circumstance we have the faith and above all the calculation of what we can do, and show you when we should withdraw , I have always talked about the money that we are willing to lose, but in this case things change when you have profits, because the profits must be withdrawn, no matter how little it is  , it is better to have the money in our hands and deposit it, than to leave it in the casino and lose it all.
It is good when we make winnings, we withdraw it so that we don't have to lose lose to money to gambling too. There are so many people that have been leaving their money in gambling and don't do anything about it withdrawing their funds. It is good we make plans and know how we are going to making our bets rather then depending on making more money without any withdrawals. It is when we make withdrawals that we are going to know that we have money and we can do whatever we want with it not funds that are with the casino we are using online.
Withdrawal of winnings isn't just the issue because you can withdraw your winnings and then still put the money back in it again because maybe you actually didn't use the money well the way it's supposed to be used. There are so many cases that have resulted to gamblers getting all addicted because of the lack of will power to actually make that decision of yours withdrawing their funds and using it wisely.

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Understanding the house edge like Maths classes, most players would skip learning how it works. The house edge entails a player's losses the more he plays. This definition clarifies why players shouldn't chase losses, it only makes the house richer and dwindles the gambler's money.

Yes, it is indeed difficult to understand and comprehend, but the most important thing is to realize it, in the sense of realizing that overall the casino will always be the party that always excels compared to gamblers at any time.

Realizing it, is straight up a sense of responsibility and would be helpfully simple to do. To some players, it'll be easier said than done. They'll never consider realizing that the house is hard to defeat. I followed the gambling niche on IG and gamblers there actually promote the never giving up slogan.

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 #740

We should also ensure we work on our discipline.

Yes, there is no doubt about that, I think that things are always focused on doing better so that there is no doubt that for any circumstance we have the faith and above all the calculation of what we can do, and show you when we should withdraw , I have always talked about the money that we are willing to lose, but in this case things change when you have profits, because the profits must be withdrawn, no matter how little it is  , it is better to have the money in our hands and deposit it, than to leave it in the casino and lose it all.
It is good when we make winnings, we withdraw it so that we don't have to lose lose to money to gambling too. There are so many people that have been leaving their money in gambling and don't do anything about it withdrawing their funds. It is good we make plans and know how we are going to making our bets rather then depending on making more money without any withdrawals. It is when we make withdrawals that we are going to know that we have money and we can do whatever we want with it not funds that are with the casino we are using online.
Withdrawal of winnings isn't just the issue because you can withdraw your winnings and then still put the money back in it again because maybe you actually didn't use the money well the way it's supposed to be used. There are so many cases that have resulted to gamblers getting all addicted because of the lack of will power to actually make that decision of yours withdrawing their funds and using it wisely.
This happens very often, even I did it many times, but eventually I realized that this is a road to nowhere and you need to be more disciplined when winning. When we win big money, then different thoughts start to appear in our heads, for example, "it was so easy", which means you can repeat it with the same speed and ease, although in reality this is not so. If you do not learn to spend part of the winnings, then these will remain virtual, and life goes on and we do not become young. Even any thing should be bought here and now, who knows, maybe this is all that will remain from our bets if luck does not return to us.

 
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