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August 27, 2024, 03:56:58 PM
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Yes, that's right, basically the real victory is when a gambler is able to maintain and enjoy the results of his victory, because the majority of them often end up with regret, in the sense that they continue gambling using money from their winnings which even with a much higher level of risk which in the end often leads them to very significant regret.
I know and can really feel that losing the amount of winnings that we have previously obtained is a really disappointing situation.

Therefore I think it is clear that stopping when you have managed to win any amount is the best action, we must remember that getting a win in gambling is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, so appreciate the luck that comes by maintaining the amount of winnings, because it comes back to the fact that the real victory is when you are able to enjoy the results for whatever you want.
Have you ever had the experience of using the money you won in a bet to gamble more and win bigger money? If you have had such an experience you will understand that any time you make your first win there will always be something in your mind that tells you or propel to you to try again if you can increase the win x2 of your first win.

Quitting after first win is safer but most times it depends on the amount won if the money is small that you feel losing it or keeping it wont make a any changes then there is nothing wrong using it to gamble more.

Yes I have experienced it, I'm not saying something I've never experienced before, and one of the reasons why I say the following is also to suggest that it is better to cash out and enjoy the results of the first win you managed to get is because I have experienced significant regret and disappointment before when several times I did the wrong thing by continuing the game when I managed to get the first win.

I understand that there is something that continues to haunt and tempt a gambler's mind when they manage to get their first win where the temptation drives them to apply greed, but isn't it much better to remind each other than you have to experience the bitter experience experienced by others including me? I'm not saying that by applying greed the result will always be a loss, because I have also occasionally managed to multiply my winnings to be bigger when I apply greed, but in 10x trials usually only 2? 3 are successful, meaning isn't it more loss than win right? That's why I suggest this, but all decisions are in your hands, because regret will always be a certainty.

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August 27, 2024, 05:28:08 PM
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That's why we must use only the money we can afford to lose so we don't have to thinks much about gambling especially when we lose or wins in gambling. We will withdraws the money or left it in our account while we can returns to the casino and playing gambling in the next days. But the real winning will comes to us when we can withdraw the win money into our wallet so we can use it for many things.
That is the best strategy, there is no other , but of course here you have to have a lot of discipline , why? It is very easy to say it , but at the time of doing it , there are Players whose head is full of ideas , some are: why not bet a little more ? With that much , it is little that I am going to risk again , you should not pay attention to that type of Thoughts , because you are Breaking or Violating your own Rules , and this in the game, in trading , is the worst Thing you can do.


strategies that rely on discipline will work for those with good control but won't work for the majority
I know this is harsh but it's true
most people will prefer easy dopamine and not a lot of effort if they can choose.

Gambling doesn't need special skills or efforts when it comes to the casino aspect of it, it is the sports aspect of betting that we need to add more time and effort to our analysis so that we have the best out of this. This means that luck is so important in the casino aspect of gambling and no matter how experienced you are in it, gambling can disappoint you, so it is not about being complex or doing the hard work, but for you to be smart.

It's also good for us to accept gambling as it is, if not, we will only have the wrong notion about it and a mindset like this will only put gamblers into trouble. The way forward is to have gambling plans and to manage our ways to success. We should also ensure we work on our discipline. This is very important because no matter what we know and how we plan to gamble, if we let it lose, emotion will surely creep in, and that can't end nicely.

pure gambling needs no special skills apart learning to manage bankroll (maybe the big skill on gambling) and knowing when to stop

I agree that if you let emotions take control this can be dangerous and you may end up losing a lot, but this is often much easier said than done, what are some of the tools and exercises you do to keep calm and avoiding emotion to rule?

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August 27, 2024, 08:31:11 PM
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That's why we must use only the money we can afford to lose so we don't have to thinks much about gambling especially when we lose or wins in gambling. We will withdraws the money or left it in our account while we can returns to the casino and playing gambling in the next days. But the real winning will comes to us when we can withdraw the win money into our wallet so we can use it for many things.
That is the best strategy, there is no other , but of course here you have to have a lot of discipline , why? It is very easy to say it , but at the time of doing it , there are Players whose head is full of ideas , some are: why not bet a little more ? With that much , it is little that I am going to risk again , you should not pay attention to that type of Thoughts , because you are Breaking or Violating your own Rules , and this in the game, in trading , is the worst Thing you can do.


strategies that rely on discipline will work for those with good control but won't work for the majority
I know this is harsh but it's true
most people will prefer easy dopamine and not a lot of effort if they can choose.

Gambling doesn't need special skills or efforts when it comes to the casino aspect of it, it is the sports aspect of betting that we need to add more time and effort to our analysis so that we have the best out of this. This means that luck is so important in the casino aspect of gambling and no matter how experienced you are in it, gambling can disappoint you, so it is not about being complex or doing the hard work, but for you to be smart.

It's also good for us to accept gambling as it is, if not, we will only have the wrong notion about it and a mindset like this will only put gamblers into trouble. The way forward is to have gambling plans and to manage our ways to success. We should also ensure we work on our discipline. This is very important because no matter what we know and how we plan to gamble, if we let it lose, emotion will surely creep in, and that can't end nicely.

pure gambling needs no special skills apart learning to manage bankroll (maybe the big skill on gambling) and knowing when to stop

I agree that if you let emotions take control this can be dangerous and you may end up losing a lot, but this is often much easier said than done, what are some of the tools and exercises you do to keep calm and avoiding emotion to rule?
Bankroll management would really be the key on which on the time or moment that you do see yourself having those issues then it would really be that better that you should stop on doing gambling.
On the time that you would be finding yourself having those kind of struggles in terms of financial then the best time to quit or stop is now. Dont wait up for things to be more complicated because on the time or moment that you cant be able to control yourself then this do impose some serious issues or problems that talks about potential gambling addiction.
On the moment that you are really that making yourself having such moderation then this is something that would be must preferred. Making up withdrawals on the time
that you are making money or winnings then that would be much preferred.

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August 29, 2024, 05:41:53 AM
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Those who can stop and really enjoy the results of victory, without being tempted to continue gambling, may be in the minority but they are a rarity concrete example of strong self-discipline and self-control. It is a quality that is not easy to find especially in the world of gambling. Full of temptations.

Most gamblers will go back to the game because they feel luck is still on their side, of which this could be actually the onset of a big loss. Those who are really able to stop after winning big are those who can look at their personal boundaries and understand that more victories can lead to losing everything.

Stopping at the right time isn't just about the win; it's about holding that balance, and not taking extra risks. People who were able to do this are the players. They accumulate wins not only in terms of money but also in terms of their mental and emotional states.

that means gamblers must also be experienced with the many bets and games they may have played. new gamblers may find it difficult to gain such a deep understanding. even more likely novice gamblers will only bet ambitiously.

however, when you have been gambling for a long time. with a lot of money that you deposit and that you have won. getting out of the habit or routine of betting is not easy. therefore I realize your words, even those who succeed in doing so are certainly only a minority of the many gamblers who will return to get even greater luck.
In terms of experience, I think it is relative depending on understanding and awareness of the nature of gambling, which sometimes someone does not need to have much experience in gambling and deposits and they immediately understand such a system and they are usually always good at controlling their emotions.

Indeed, if it becomes a habit or hobby that cannot be separated, it will be very difficult to get out, this makes it need a very strong external and internal push from itself to get out, because the feeling of happiness of winning and gambling will make addiction to gambling.

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August 29, 2024, 05:44:16 AM
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In terms of experience, I think it is relative depending on understanding and awareness of the nature of gambling, which sometimes someone does not need to have much experience in gambling and deposits and they immediately understand such a system and they are usually always good at controlling their emotions.

Indeed, if it becomes a habit or hobby that cannot be separated, it will be very difficult to get out, this makes it need a very strong external and internal push from itself to get out, because the feeling of happiness of winning and gambling will make addiction to gambling.

Everybody should strive to become aware of their actions and get control over all of them, in all kinds of situations. It's hard, it needs effort to be done mentally, but it's possible.

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August 29, 2024, 06:08:05 AM
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In terms of experience, I think it is relative depending on understanding and awareness of the nature of gambling, which sometimes someone does not need to have much experience in gambling and deposits and they immediately understand such a system and they are usually always good at controlling their emotions.

Indeed, if it becomes a habit or hobby that cannot be separated, it will be very difficult to get out, this makes it need a very strong external and internal push from itself to get out, because the feeling of happiness of winning and gambling will make addiction to gambling.

Everybody should strive to become aware of their actions and get control over all of them, in all kinds of situations. It's hard, it needs effort to be done mentally, but it's possible.
Yes, it is possible.
Control and discipline is something that is not easy to have especially in gambling where urges happen all the time. The urge to play more after a win, the urge to deposit more when you lose, and the urge to chase the losses which I think is the worst of all.

Making withdrawals is a good way to tell ourselves that we really won against the house and it gives pleasure to those who want more money in their pockets. So I think we must do it regularly as long as we hit the planned amount or better the minimum withdrawal.

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August 29, 2024, 08:00:07 AM
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Yes, it is possible.
Control and discipline is something that is not easy to have especially in gambling where urges happen all the time. The urge to play more after a win, the urge to deposit more when you lose, and the urge to chase the losses which I think is the worst of all.

Making withdrawals is a good way to tell ourselves that we really won against the house and it gives pleasure to those who want more money in their pockets. So I think we must do it regularly as long as we hit the planned amount or better the minimum withdrawal.

Yes, it is an addiction in the end.

It feels good to win when gambling, all the games are designed to make your brain addicted to it.

But the good news is that the solution is also right there, in your brain. You can control your brain and not gamble. It will be difficult but it is possible.

You can just think about all the millions and millions of people that don't gamble. It's clearly possible, it's all in your brain.

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August 29, 2024, 12:22:43 PM
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In terms of experience, I think it is relative depending on understanding and awareness of the nature of gambling, which sometimes someone does not need to have much experience in gambling and deposits and they immediately understand such a system and they are usually always good at controlling their emotions.

Indeed, if it becomes a habit or hobby that cannot be separated, it will be very difficult to get out, this makes it need a very strong external and internal push from itself to get out, because the feeling of happiness of winning and gambling will make addiction to gambling.

Everybody should strive to become aware of their actions and get control over all of them, in all kinds of situations. It's hard, it needs effort to be done mentally, but it's possible.
Yes, it is possible.
Control and discipline is something that is not easy to have especially in gambling where urges happen all the time. The urge to play more after a win, the urge to deposit more when you lose, and the urge to chase the losses which I think is the worst of all.

Making withdrawals is a good way to tell ourselves that we really won against the house and it gives pleasure to those who want more money in their pockets. So I think we must do it regularly as long as we hit the planned amount or better the minimum withdrawal.

Practice and be consistent with your intention before playing, something that really hard to do when you are engaged into gambling, though there are experienced gamblers who really good doing it, they are well aware that exceeding from their set limits will lead them to lose, they got that set of patterns which will help them to quickly react when it reached their set targets.

Quitting or stopping with decent amount of earnings most of the time is not easy to do, as your desire to aim for more will keeps lingering in the back of your mind, stating that you need to maximize whatever kind of luck that's backing you.

If you failed to stop, then most probably you'll just going to lose it back and only regret will follow after your session and you lose everything including your initial deposits.

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That's correct. Withdrawals are true winning of gambling. Something similar to net profit!! A Gambler can win a lots and then can loss a lot. But the fact is, how much withdrawable fund remain to him, at the end of the day and how much fund he already withdraw in his bank account. If he doesn't withdraw anything, then commonly there is a chance to lose it back again. Maybe he has to redeposit the fund again after loss all fund which was available in gambling website but there are some difference. When you have money, you desire to bets more and stake higher but when you have lower amount of funds, then its easy to control yourself from placing bets randomly. So i support the withdraw system instead of keeping all the fund in gambling website. Although its all about mentality, self control & self discipline at the end of the day

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Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.
the most important thing that we have to consider in gambling when participating on it is that we should do not be greedy in gambling don't think that you can use a small amount to make a big amount in gambling and then when you know quite well that they don't have any strategies of winning in gambling they can easily make you to gamble and the by the end you fee regret, another thing is that and gambling you don't need to make a mistake and they need to be conscious of everything I do in gambling because they proportion for you to lose is also the same proportion for you to benefit in gambling so this two things are similar from my own understanding in gambling participate in gambling with what you are directed to do with your mindset don't not gamble based on pressure and the influence that will lead you to the negative part of it in gambling.

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Withdrawal is a matter of choice because we have some gamblers who want to use their bet account as storage also for the digital assets, let say they make their bets in assets like Bitcoin and when they win big amount, instead of withdrawing that huge amount that can accumulate a lot of fees, they may decide not to withdraw the money leaving it in the casino wallets untill there is need to use their money, so this type of gamblers may likely not make withdrawal when the win, so it not conclusive to say that the real rewards lay in withdrawal of you winnings, unless for an addicted gambler who most likely doesn't have a limits to the amount he gamble with at each point in time and in such a situation we can say yes, withdrawal is most essential for such a gambler since leaving such an amount will further add to his attempt to gamble it away again.
If they are to leave the winnings in the casino because of the fee to use and withdraw them, it's very understandable, but for those who turn the casino into their storage house, such a person is taking a double risk because of how much they can be tempted to use out of that money to place a bet and also because the future can never be predicted when it comes to hacking and account freezing. The higher the amount we leave in a casino, the more risk the account can be in terms of the casino investigating them.

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If they are to leave the winnings in the casino because of the fee to use and withdraw them, it's very understandable, but for those who turn the casino into their storage house, such a person is taking a double risk because of how much they can be tempted to use out of that money to place a bet and also because the future can never be predicted when it comes to hacking and account freezing. The higher the amount we leave in a casino, the more risk the account can be in terms of the casino investigating them.

And that alone is reason enough not to trust our money to a casino, in fact, there has been much speculation that casinos can now put as a condition that a period of inactivity causes the account to be frozen or closed, that is much more dangerous, because if there are people who leave money there, they dedicate themselves to something else for 1 love or 2, and they know that they have their money there, and when they enter the account they see that there is nothing or that it does not open, just thinking about that is reason enough not to leave it there even in an exchange, nothing like handling our money with our own private keys.

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August 30, 2024, 06:05:07 AM
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Practice and be consistent with your intention before playing, something that really hard to do when you are engaged into gambling, though there are experienced gamblers who really good doing it, they are well aware that exceeding from their set limits will lead them to lose, they got that set of patterns which will help them to quickly react when it reached their set targets.

Quitting or stopping with decent amount of earnings most of the time is not easy to do, as your desire to aim for more will keeps lingering in the back of your mind, stating that you need to maximize whatever kind of luck that's backing you.

If you failed to stop, then most probably you'll just going to lose it back and only regret will follow after your session and you lose everything including your initial deposits.

It's essential to improve upon the mistakes made and, going into future sessions, take action with responsibility at hand. Adaption is the thing we are known for, after all Grin

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Practice and be consistent with your intention before playing, something that really hard to do when you are engaged into gambling, though there are experienced gamblers who really good doing it, they are well aware that exceeding from their set limits will lead them to lose, they got that set of patterns which will help them to quickly react when it reached their set targets.

Quitting or stopping with decent amount of earnings most of the time is not easy to do, as your desire to aim for more will keeps lingering in the back of your mind, stating that you need to maximize whatever kind of luck that's backing you.

If you failed to stop, then most probably you'll just going to lose it back and only regret will follow after your session and you lose everything including your initial deposits.

It's essential to improve upon the mistakes made and, going into future sessions, take action with responsibility at hand. Adaption is the thing we are known for, after all Grin
And its a typical or normal approach for someone to do so on the time or moment that they would really be able to experience such things. Real winning would come up or talks about on how you would really be able to make withdrawals and never deposit it back again to the house, but if you are really that a gambler then most likely you would really be still making up deposits out of those winnings.
Real winners are to those people who do made out such good decision when it comes to securing out those wins and buying up something with it and not really that simply trying out to make use of those winnings
because high chances or most of the time it would really be just that taken it back on the moment that you would really be having those loses. This is why it would really be that important that you should
really know on how to set limits on the time or moment that you will really be that dealing up with gambling. You should really be that sensible on the decisions that you are taking and not really just that going further
ahead without having any reconsiderations on the stuffs that you would really be that dealing into. On the time that you are really that on the winning side then it would really be that recommended that you should
really make withdraw of those amounts and buying up something tangible or worth because on the moment that you would be losing it back again to the house then it would really be just that ending up on the same old
story and this is something that we dont really like to happen. So better be wary and careful on the actions that you are taking because if you wont really be doing so then you are putting up yourself on such huge
risks on getting wrecked and having that miserable life when it comes to this aspect.

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~snip~
It's essential to improve upon the mistakes made and, going into future sessions, take action with responsibility at hand. Adaption is the thing we are known for, after all Grin

Yeah, the thing is that not everyone will want to take that responsibility.

It's easy to not take that responsibility and blame other people about it.

That's what most people do anyway, I think it's pretty common.

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That's correct. Withdrawals are true winning of gambling. Something similar to net profit!! A Gambler can win a lots and then can loss a lot. But the fact is, how much withdrawable fund remain to him, at the end of the day and how much fund he already withdraw in his bank account. If he doesn't withdraw anything, then commonly there is a chance to lose it back again. Maybe he has to redeposit the fund again after loss all fund which was available in gambling website but there are some difference. When you have money, you desire to bets more and stake higher but when you have lower amount of funds, then its easy to control yourself from placing bets randomly. So i support the withdraw system instead of keeping all the fund in gambling website. Although its all about mentality, self control & self discipline at the end of the day
If a gambler has no money after gambling for a long time then it is just a waste of time although gambling is not recommended for the purpose of earning money. But there are some gamblers who are not willing to enjoy the winnings. They are more focused on increasing their bankroll as much as possible and it is imperative for them to withdraw money otherwise they can lose all their money in gambling at any time. A gambler should share his winnings. If he enjoys a portion of his winnings and save a portion as emergency fund, he will receive money at any time. There are many gamblers who have profited from gambling but do not have money at the time of need. To keep his own fortune safe, of course, if he withdraws that money and invests it elsewhere, I think that gambler can gamble smoothly in gambling life.

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September 02, 2024, 03:51:21 PM
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It's essential to improve upon the mistakes made and, going into future sessions, take action with responsibility at hand. Adaption is the thing we are known for, after all Grin

Yeah, the thing is that not everyone will want to take that responsibility.

It's easy to not take that responsibility and blame other people about it.

That's what most people do anyway, I think it's pretty common.
When in a winning position, most people think it's their lucky day, and decide to continue playing until sometimes forgetting to withdraw the initial capital. Only a few of them are lucky in this matter, and most of them lose some of the money that has been won, then in the end they always tell stories and say they regret their actions. True enough, that is a very common thing that we often see in our respective environments, we must admit that it is very difficult to control ourselves.

I think everyone has tried to gamble responsibly, and we can see that only a few are able to do it. On the other hand, if gambling advice is adopted properly by everyone, maybe the bookies will not get significant profits. In fact, gambling should be considered a means of entertainment, winning or losing should not be taken too seriously, so that it does not have a negative impact on our lives in other areas. Of course everyone has their own opinion in gambling, what is clear is that we must remain vigilant in controlling our own actions.

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September 02, 2024, 04:21:52 PM
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It's essential to improve upon the mistakes made and, going into future sessions, take action with responsibility at hand. Adaption is the thing we are known for, after all Grin

Yeah, the thing is that not everyone will want to take that responsibility.

It's easy to not take that responsibility and blame other people about it.

That's what most people do anyway, I think it's pretty common.
Gamblers do really love on blaming someone specially on the moment that they will really be able to commit out some mistakes on which this is really just that being too common when it comes into this aspect.
We do know that gamblers wont really be that tending to have that kind of acceptance on whatever the bad outcomes that they will really be able to experience with gambling. Its true that real winners are to those people who can be able to make out those kind of withdrawals on the moment or time that they will really be making up some winnings and would never be making those redeposit back those winnings
and would be playing gambling because usually this is the case that do really happen or common. I do agree into those words above that you should have bought something into that amount so that
whenever you do lose those winnings back then you do have atleast secured something.

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September 02, 2024, 04:30:16 PM
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It's essential to improve upon the mistakes made and, going into future sessions, take action with responsibility at hand. Adaption is the thing we are known for, after all Grin

Yeah, the thing is that not everyone will want to take that responsibility.

It's easy to not take that responsibility and blame other people about it.

That's what most people do anyway, I think it's pretty common.
No, not taking responsibility in gambling is not common, and this is because every gambler still takes responsibility of their actions in one way or the other whether they like it or not.
Take for example, gambling responsibly is a major rule in gambling, but still, the casino does not force it on any one, they only will advice you as a gambler to practice responsible gambling for your own good, and if by the end of the day, you listen, adhere and practise it, it's good for you, but if you don't, what ever outcome you get, you bear it on your own, no one else can take responsibility for your gambling loses, like, the casino cannot deduct my account balance as a way to cover for the loses of another gambler, that gambler alone have to pay for his loses and that also is another way of taking responsibility, and it doesn't matter whether you like it or not.

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September 02, 2024, 04:56:01 PM
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Gamblers do really love on blaming someone specially on the moment that they will really be able to commit out some mistakes on which this is really just that being too common when it comes into this aspect.
We do know that gamblers wont really be that tending to have that kind of acceptance on whatever the bad outcomes that they will really be able to experience with gambling.
Any gambler will not accept defeat because they have lost the funds that were bet in the gambling session, so anyone who advises gamblers then they will be the main target of blame for the defeat and I rarely interfere with other people's gambling problems because they have to find their own opportunities to hunt for victory from gambling.


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Its true that real winners are to those people who can be able to make out those kind of withdrawals on the moment or time that they will really be making up some winnings and would never be making those redeposit back those winnings
and would be playing gambling because usually this is the case that do really happen or common. I do agree into those words above that you should have bought something into that amount so that
whenever you do lose those winnings back then you do have atleast secured something.
We must get used to withdrawing some profits and we must also temporarily stop gambling activities, this will be a reflection to calm the mind from gambling and the best solution is to use the winnings to buy the items you need and never deposit the amount of winnings to gamble with a high budget, wise gamblers will prioritize this in their gambling rules and if they follow the right rules they will avoid gambling addiction.

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