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June 14, 2024, 06:17:27 PM
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Eitherway would be fine for me. The gambling provider I am playing at is currently requiring KYC procedures on withdrawals and I have no problem with it. One reason I guess why I don't worry that much is that, so far I never had any privacy problems so maybe you just have to pick the right platform you could be free of worries. But I do understand other players who are concerned of this procedure and those who prefer platforms without this requirement. Their worries are simply valid especially if you happened to run into a fraudalent platform. Good thing that this industry offers both having and lacking the requirement because it gives options and alternative to players.
So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
As long as the site is good, I will gamble with them and there are top sites that didn't require KYC that much, so I'm ok with this.
Don't ever gamble on a site you are doubting because you will spend money there and the risk of losing is high because of the probability that the site will turn into a scam site. If you want a peace of mind, just choose the best site and even if there is KYC it's worth to gamble.
Many people are still just worried of their identity to be used on illegal activities and we cannot blame them about it. Let them be 'coz there are platforms they could be enjoying more with their demands being  met. There are many providers to choose from and that is enough for you to pick one that could match your ideals.

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June 14, 2024, 06:27:07 PM
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::/OP/:::I think you don't understand the issue very well, since nothing, absolutely nothing, Zero, has to do with KYC with trust in a casino or the opposite, not having it.

On the other hand, the newcomers crypto Casinos opened a door to no KYC, which did not last long, but has always been the norm with any type of casino.

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June 14, 2024, 06:28:15 PM
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So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
It is a good idea to check the complete rules about KYC so that we know the chosen gambling is in accordance with what we want or not.

First, I will look at how the casino site works and how the feedback from other customers is,
because it will determine whether the Online Casino is safe or not in withdrawals and some of the games contained in it.

If it does apply KYC, I will do it, but with the note that the implementation of KYC is only done on some large withdrawal transactions or on some games,
but not at the beginning of registration.

But if the casino is popular enough and recommended without KYC, it is a good enough casino to be anonymous, because it will be easy to register and withdraw without strict rules.

Some Casinos that implement KYC such as:
Stake: Implementing KYC on large withdrawals
BC. Games: Requires KYC for some Features
Betway: Casino and Sports Betting site with full KYC implementation.
888casino: Applies KYC to registration but has a good reputation.

Non-KYC Casinos
Cloudbet: No KYC that supports crypto
Bitsler: Variety of games without KYC
FortuneJack: Huge selection of games and bonuses without KYC
Primedice: Offers a dice game without KYC.

What about Roobet and Rollbit?

Roobet does not ask for KYC directly for deposits and withdrawals,
but they will ask for it at any time when a large withdrawal is made or if there is any suspicious activity.

While Rollbit may be stricter because it will ask for KYC even if it makes a small withdrawal for some reason,
and KYC is also required to access some features on games and betting.

Note: Correct me if there is some misinformation

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June 14, 2024, 06:46:22 PM
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I think those casinos that request for KYC are those that are being regulated and have obtained their license of operation from the government. If a casino is regulated, they will likely have a good reputation and may not want to let their customers have doubts about them, but non-KYC casinos may not be regulated, and they can easily scam customers without any sanctions. I have read the comments of some people here, and I agree with what some users have already said: that casinos should be chosen based on their reputation. Some KYC casinos and some non-KYC casinos are very reputable, and what matters is if the gambler is getting the perfect satisfaction they want. 

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June 14, 2024, 07:30:02 PM
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So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with?
If the two gambling sites are legit and they have all the necessary things that I do look for before making use of a casino, then I would rather go to a casino without the KYC requirement. I love my privacy, if not that sometimes I don’t just have a choice, I will never reveal my identity. I won’t submit my personal information to anyone. So if I have the opportunity not to submit my identity, then I will go for it.
 
We should know that sometimes our identities are sold out to scammers, who will end up using them for illegal activities. Some of the gambling site staff might be doing this just to earn more money, so we should try our possible best not to reveal our identity anyhow.


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June 14, 2024, 07:45:03 PM
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So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with?
If the two gambling sites are legit and they have all the necessary things that I do look for before making use of a casino, then I would rather go to a casino without the KYC requirement. I love my privacy, if not that sometimes I don’t just have a choice, I will never reveal my identity. I won’t submit my personal information to anyone. So if I have the opportunity not to submit my identity, then I will go for it.
 
We should know that sometimes our identities are sold out to scammers, who will end up using them for illegal activities. Some of the gambling site staff might be doing this just to earn more money, so we should try our possible best not to reveal our identity anyhow.


The most important aspects are reputation and what we are actually looking for. There are casinos that have fewer games while some also could have more games but still need in the gambling space with less reputation. Reputable is very important in how legit a gambling platform could be. As a gambler, one motive is to make money but when such motive has been accomplished then the mission is yet pending. KYC casinos are not always my favorites just like other gamblers too because people prefer betting on a platform where they could be anonymous without any problem or issue about their privacy which is very important for all.

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Let's talk about KYC and non-KYC casinos. There are many casinos in the space, and probably most of them require KYC (Know Your Customer) since they hold a license. However, some do not promote that requirement. In fact, I've read comments mentioning that there are casinos which initially claim they don't require KYC but later do, based on their own judgment.

So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?

To answer your question, I would say that I would trust a casino with KYC more than a casino without it. I think that casinos with verification requirements at least take their products and their work more seriously. This is very relevant nowadays, as there are so many online casinos. If you have nothing to hide and you don’t want anyone to find out that you play in an online casino, then you should probably prefer a casino with a verification requirement. It is also worth noting that your identity should not be disclosed in any case due to confidentiality conditions

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June 14, 2024, 07:59:17 PM
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So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with?
If the two gambling sites are legit and they have all the necessary things that I do look for before making use of a casino, then I would rather go to a casino without the KYC requirement. I love my privacy, if not that sometimes I don’t just have a choice, I will never reveal my identity. I won’t submit my personal information to anyone. So if I have the opportunity not to submit my identity, then I will go for it.
 
We should know that sometimes our identities are sold out to scammers, who will end up using them for illegal activities. Some of the gambling site staff might be doing this just to earn more money, so we should try our possible best not to reveal our identity anyhow.


The most important aspects are reputation and what we are actually looking for. There are casinos that have fewer games while some also could have more games but still need in the gambling space with less reputation. Reputable is very important in how legit a gambling platform could be. As a gambler, one motive is to make money but when such motive has been accomplished then the mission is yet pending. KYC casinos are not always my favorites just like other gamblers too because people prefer betting on a platform where they could be anonymous without any problem or issue about their privacy which is very important for all.
Reputation would really be always the main thing that should really be checked out on which people wont really be caring about KYC or other requirement as long they are dealing on something that could be trusted then it wont really be that much of an issue but i do agree on some points earlier that we do have still platforms now that doesnt ask out about KYC but you could really be freely be able to play without minding those things as long you wont really be able to commit out such violation. So on the question if people would really be trusting into those who do require KYC but known ones and having license? Of course people would really be doing that because we do know that when it comes to gambling then it would really be that something in connection about huge money or bankroll that some other players would really be depositing into.

If you dont really care that much about being anonymous and really that liking on trying to play on a site which you are really that interested then this one wont be an issue.
Actually people wont really care as long they are dealing with a legit site and having no pending or unresolved issues in compared into those platforms who dont ask KYC
but having that tons of issues and problems.

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June 14, 2024, 08:02:52 PM
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Let's talk about KYC and non-KYC casinos. There are many casinos in the space, and probably most of them require KYC (Know Your Customer) since they hold a license. However, some do not promote that requirement. In fact, I've read comments mentioning that there are casinos which initially claim they don't require KYC but later do, based on their own judgment.

So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
There are no casinos that have a 100% guarantee of providing security and comfort in the gambling that we do, whether they have enforced KYC because of regulations or not, this is very difficult but we can approach which one is safer in both of them is of course the one that has obtained regulations and the casino runs it properly, I also don't have a problem maybe today I gamble at a casino that doesn't have regulations but some time later I have to do KYC because of regulatory updates, I don't think it's a big problem if the casino we are in has a good reputation and a logical TOS.

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June 14, 2024, 08:12:03 PM
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The casino that until now, even though they have been operating for a long time, has never asked its members for KYC is freebitcoin, although some time ago, if I'm not mistaken, they would have implemented KYC but it didn't apply to their old members. I also play at one of the casinos that often has sports contests here and so far I have never had to deal with KYC either because the deposit amount is small or because this casino is KYC free. Meanwhile, the casino whose signature code I use has never asked for KYC, but that may be because the funds received so far have only been from sig camp.
I don't believe it when there are casinos or bookmakers who say they are KYC free but they are licensed, because in the future it will be an obligation for their members to carry out KYC because of the rules of the license, especially when there are large funds being deposited or withdrawn, but whether it is KYC free or not is not a benchmark for whether the casino can trustworthy because in my opinion it all depends on how they handle complaints from their members.

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June 14, 2024, 09:53:42 PM
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I have seen different post about KYC casino and non KYC casino but, I don’t think some casino will function freely without knowing their customers later as time goes on, sometimes they’ll not want to require at first and secondly I came across a post here when casino later demand customer personal information after winning a huge money. From my opinion I don’t care as long as my personal information is hidden because most people do complain about casino revealing their personal details but, personally I have not experienced such and from my experience using both is not a problem you just have to focus on the service they render if you’re comfortable with the service. Talking about trust, gamblers in general should be careful because most of the KYC casinos are not trusted.
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Let's talk about KYC and non-KYC casinos. There are many casinos in the space, and probably most of them require KYC (Know Your Customer) since they hold a license. However, some do not promote that requirement. In fact, I've read comments mentioning that there are casinos which initially claim they don't require KYC but later do, based on their own judgment.

So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with? Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
Thing is, KYC is always so much better than having none. And if you're here to argue that KYC doesn't do shit, (to which I'd say it's a case by case basis, and is heavily dependent upon the way the casino you're playing with operates, but I digress) I could say that having security measures, no matter how "futile" you think it is, is way better than having none at all. In this case particularly, KYC is way better than having none, especially when the whole industry almost automatically assumes that no-KYC casinos (like me) are a bunch of scams.

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https://casino.guru/bustabit-casino-review
this is from 2023 data.
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Casino operates without an official license!

I agree that this casino is very popular since they have signature campaign in the forum before, not sure if they still maintain that popularity now for a casino that operates without a license.
That's not true, they have a Costa Rica license. Check their ToS - https://bustabit.com/tos
Sorry, the information I got might be outdated. I haven't really visited the official site of the casino since I'm not one of the players. Thank you for the correction. So, they just recently acquired a license since the information I got was last updated in 2023?

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The agreement shall be governed by the laws of Costa Rica. Any legal disputes between the operator and the user regarding the use of the service are to be decided by the courts of Costa Rica.

Also, previous Bustabit owner has confirmed that Bustabit is registered in Costa Rica.

So this is where the problem gets worse if you file a case against them. If you are from the Philippines, you need to go to Costa Rica to file a case? That's too expensive as traveling alone would already cost you a lot of money.

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Let's talk about KYC and non-KYC casinos. There are many casinos in the space, and probably most of them require KYC (Know Your Customer) since they hold a license. However, some do not promote that requirement. In fact, I've read comments mentioning that there are casinos which initially claim they don't require KYC but later do, based on their own judgment.
Not on their judgment but based on the user's activity. I, I'm not yet kyced in most of the casinos that I play because I'm not as big as the others. And that's what I am talking about the user activity because the wagering plays a big part and how much a gambler does with that. So, if a user gambles with a lot of money and then tries to withdraw it, that's one factor why that user is being asked to comply of the kyc. And there are so many other factors that we might have not yet discussed or if we do, we passed on that because they rarely happen in some cases but yes, there are other factors too.

So, if we could find a casino that genuinely adheres to what they advertise (whether as a non-KYC or KYC casino), which one would we trust to gamble with?
Easy, then that one that has integrity and true to their words. But on the business side, everything is understandable when they have to change their policies and needed to start asking for their users to comply for the kyc because the pressure isn't really coming from them but from someone way above and higher than them and they're the regulators.

Additionally, if you have doubts, what are the risks you might be taking that could bother you while regularly gambling at such a casino?
I am not sure, nothing at all really or maybe some delays in withdrawals? Mostly are like that and as well as the genuine wins with big amounts.

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June 15, 2024, 07:54:06 AM
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I'd pick the casinos with KYC, only because the ones i've used have been okay, even though there's always a chance for them to cause a bad experience.

I also agree with the others about avoiding KYC as a main factor in picking casinos because it only takes one wrong move, and you'd suddenly have a limited account with little to no option aside from withdrawing your funds.

Once you try both, you'll barely see the difference if they're decent in handling the other parts of a casino.

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June 15, 2024, 07:59:11 AM
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It doesn't matter IMO.

What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.

In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.

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June 15, 2024, 09:16:46 AM
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Non-KYC Casinos
Cloudbet: No KYC that supports crypto
Bitsler: Variety of games without KYC
FortuneJack: Huge selection of games and bonuses without KYC
Primedice: Offers a dice game without KYC.
I have no idea why you can include all of them into no KYC casinos when it's really clear all of them are KYC casino. Casino that didn't ask to verify your account even you able to deposit and withdraw your coins doesn't mean it's no KYC casinos, you need to check the terms to know the reality.

The real no KYC casinos never ask KYC in any situation or condition.

7.1.6. You authorise us to use any means that we consider necessary to verify your identity and creditworthiness with any third party providers of information.

4.4. If we are unable to verify your age, identity or address to our satisfaction, your Account will be suspended until the requested information is provided. We reserve the right at any time and at our sole discretion to reject verification documents provided and/or request further verification documents be submitted in order to satisfy our verification obligations.

5.2.  We reserve the right to verify Your registration details and all other personal data provided by You to Us any time after the registration of the Account, such as : name, surname, identity information, personal number and passport number, address, age and any other personal data, at any time, by requesting certain type of documents.

Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Primedice reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Primedice reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Primedice’s sole discretion. Primedice also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Primedice (owner and operator of Primedice), and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

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June 15, 2024, 09:28:28 AM
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Personally, I prefer to play with casinos that must provide CIC, because sooner or later this will happen. While the casino is not visible to regulatory authorities, it can afford to accept players without CIC, but if it does well, the volume of bets, the number of players and other indicators will gradually increase. Then additional rules and regulations will have to be introduced.

Also, if you do not provide documents, then ultimately this may become a fraudulent activity on the part of the casino, when the player wins a big win and it will require you to go through the CIC, otherwise it will simply not give away the winnings. This is one of the most unpleasant problems players have with casinos. Because if it doesn’t pass the test, then it turns out that the game was in vain, it’s terrible and I wanted there to be as few such cases as possible.

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June 15, 2024, 09:47:20 AM
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back then when I am new in online gambling , I kept looking for a casino that has no kyc feature because i
wanted to preserve my privacy and my character , but things change over the years when each casino that I
use to play starts adding KYC as they are being mandated by the government and eventually seeing the advantage
of having KYC to non kyc so now I am supporting the KYCed casino for safer and better communication to the
team and what they can offer in legalities .
It doesn't matter IMO.

What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.

In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.
exactly , it is always fall to our prerogatives and what we wanted or not , it is our money and our decisions
this thread will only runs with different stands when this does not support what and how gambling works.

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June 15, 2024, 11:12:49 AM
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It doesn't matter IMO.

What you like most is where you stay. Even if that casino asks for your kyc or any form of verification, that gives you the confidence that whenever you have to deal with a problem, they'll get you by quickly because you're verified.

In most cases, this isn't like this but there's a better service in most that are asking for kyc. But I agree with ralle, you'd not notice the difference between the two.

Although the risk that is involved in giving out our secret information to online platforms should not be overlooked, giving off your information should be done with caution, knowing that their are some casinos that is not trusted. They can sell your private information.

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