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July 27, 2024, 06:48:56 AM
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In general, I also think that people should be allowed to bet on whatever they want. Especially when it comes to, for example, decentralized betting platforms. In the case of centralized betting services, there are nuances, but in general the patterns are the same. I must say that if you have access to insider information, then it is far from a fact that you will correctly guess the outcome of a betting event. I have heard many stories from experienced bettors about the failures of so-called insiders. I have heard many times about supposedly fixed matches, which in the end turned out not to be fixed, but the real thing. I have heard stories about how people received insider information or supposed insider information, bet on the outcome of an event that was supposed to happen in 99.99% of cases, but ... did not happen. Therefore, when I hear about successful insider information, I am very skeptical about it.
We just think that if this insider information is right, they will never tell anyone or deceive someone to bet, but they let other gamblers make a bet and make money from them because they know that it never works in reality and still rely on luck to win. In reality, 99.99% of what was promised by these insiders to innocent gamblers never existed. 

There are gambling experts, that is true, but they never know exactly what will happen or know the results in advance. Yes, they have good strategies, but they never say they work perfectly or just always. Maybe we can say that our chance of winning is a little bit high if we have been gambling for a long time, but that doesn't mean we know everything. 

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July 29, 2024, 09:33:00 PM
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There was a topic that was posted on gambling discussion not quite long about British Prime Minister bodyguard arrested for election date bet. If I understood it, people are to bet on the day the election date would be.

People can bet on Miss World, Election, Sports and other events that it is not someone that fixed the result or set the date. I have not heard of this kind of bet before until today.

Some people posted that such people like the bodyguard should not be allowed to bet on the date of Election but what if he told someone to help him out and the money will be shared? Or is something like this can not be manipulated? If you know what would be the result of something, you can do one or two or more manipulation with that thing.

I think betting sites should not be allowed to include such bet. They should not just only be blaming the man. I see the betting site faults also. Why making people to bet on a result that someone set?
Actually its really that hard for it to be filtered out on which there would really be cases such as this on where leaked information would really be given out and as a bodyguard as if on such condition thei i would really be definitely taking up such advantage on knowing these information and since you do know that disclosing such information is really that against the rules or terms or could make trouble then it would really be impossible
that you wont really be taking up considerations on being careful if you do really have the plans with those external betting and dealing up with someone whom you could trust to make it sure that it wont really be leaking up someday.  Cheesy. Betting sites wont really be able to catch up on whose the ones who do have those relatives working on something such as this.

You could really be able to actually have that advantage if you do really that have position. We cant really be able to tell but its actually happening. It is really just that not all getting busted.
Basing up on the link given then its just that unlucky that bodyguard had been caught. As long there would be someone who would be giving out that leak then you do get busted
but if not then you would really make serious profits with it.

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August 06, 2024, 07:59:23 PM
Last edit: August 06, 2024, 08:14:13 PM by Lanatsa
 #63

There was a topic that was posted on gambling discussion not quite long about British Prime Minister bodyguard arrested for election date bet. If I understood it, people are to bet on the day the election date would be.

People can bet on Miss World, Election, Sports and other events that it is not someone that fixed the result or set the date. I have not heard of this kind of bet before until today.

Some people posted that such people like the bodyguard should not be allowed to bet on the date of Election but what if he told someone to help him out and the money will be shared? Or is something like this can not be manipulated? If you know what would be the result of something, you can do one or two or more manipulation with that thing.

I think betting sites should not be allowed to include such bet. They should not just only be blaming the man. I see the betting site faults also. Why making people to bet on a result that someone set?
Actually its really that hard for it to be filtered out on which there would really be cases such as this on where leaked information would really be given out and as a bodyguard as if on such condition thei i would really be definitely taking up such advantage on knowing these information and since you do know that disclosing such information is really that against the rules or terms or could make trouble then it would really be impossible
that you wont really be taking up considerations on being careful if you do really have the plans with those external betting and dealing up with someone whom you could trust to make it sure that it wont really be leaking up someday.  Cheesy. Betting sites wont really be able to catch up on whose the ones who do have those relatives working on something such as this.

You could really be able to actually have that advantage if you do really that have position. We cant really be able to tell but its actually happening. It is really just that not all getting busted.
Basing up on the link given then its just that unlucky that bodyguard had been caught. As long there would be someone who would be giving out that leak then you do get busted
but if not then you would really make serious profits with it.

When you are losing then majority of the time there's something that you could really be able to point out your fingers and would really be having that kind of blaming on which you are the only one whose to blame considering that actions taken would really be that solely be depending on you. This is why on the time that you would really be playing up gambling then make yourself that get prepared on facing up those conditions on where finances is greatly affected. This is why on the moment that you would really be losing up money then you should really be accepting the reality of gambling so that you wont really be ending up on having those kind of blaming or having those kind of making some issues just because that you have lost. This is one of the most common behavior or trait of gamblers on where they are really that not
accepting those mistakes and there's someone that they could really be able to point on.

Dont know if this one is really just that trying to ease up their stress or shame on the current condition that they are really that experiencing into or really just that dont accept
into the mistakes that they have done? Gamblers would really be having this very kind of very common behavior when it comes to this aspect on which its not really that shocking that they will really be
something like this.

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August 07, 2024, 02:40:40 PM
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Maybe the guard know something we dont know and decide to go all in before the election pooling is out. If the guard really know something and bet with all in he might win and cash out pile of cash on that day hahaha.

But seriously tho today's gambling is crazy hahaha you can gamble for an artist movie president election and etc. Life is basically a gamble frenn hahah

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August 07, 2024, 02:49:09 PM
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Was the rule that prohibited the body guard from betting on the election stated before he places the bet, or it was afterwards that he already betted and possibility of winning before this case got triggered up to this level.

On the norm's, Individuals with an insider's Information are prohibited from certain activities and possibly the election that the arrest was done were where he is exposed to knowing the election date.

 
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August 07, 2024, 03:24:39 PM
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Was the rule that prohibited the body guard from betting on the election stated before he places the bet, or it was afterwards that he already betted and possibility of winning before this case got triggered up to this level.

On the norm's, Individuals with an insider's Information are prohibited from certain activities and possibly the election that the arrest was done were where he is exposed to knowing the election date.

what is the big deal with betting on the day of election?
I mean, the house should probably close bets some hours before the votes are counted exactly to avoid lagging and inside information people taking advantage of the delay
but apart from that, I don't see such a big deal...
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August 07, 2024, 04:37:33 PM
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Was the rule that prohibited the body guard from betting on the election stated before he places the bet, or it was afterwards that he already betted and possibility of winning before this case got triggered up to this level.

On the norm's, Individuals with an insider's Information are prohibited from certain activities and possibly the election that the arrest was done were where he is exposed to knowing the election date.

what is the big deal with betting on the day of election?
I mean, the house should probably close bets some hours before the votes are counted exactly to avoid lagging and inside information people taking advantage of the delay
but apart from that, I don't see such a big deal...
weird story

Don't really understand because after all, when a site does provide betting even if it is a bet on election results then it is legal. Because after all,in elections there are also candidates to choose from and of course, the site will only make choices on registered candidates, of  course the exact results cannot be determined, because betting is also a choice which means there are many choices  available. For example, like betting on sports and in reality,in one match there are many options that you can bet on even before the match starts.

However, if the problem is about defeat experienced by a candidate for the DPR, president or government and then a candidate loses in the election, until they look for someone who might be the cause of his defeat in the election. So this is not included in a bet, but about the candidate's disappointment in losing the election itself and not because he lost the bet.

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August 07, 2024, 05:14:59 PM
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People make bets and they have their own choice in choosing the category of which to go for, some of the betting platforms were being influenced by their developers to help advertise for more users and also set a kind of bet in which other often refer to as being manipulated, but in this case, they make use of public events for the people to cast their votes on who to win and gamblers could also use such avenue for  their own bet on their preferred candidate, if we cant afford it, we should abstain form it kind.
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People make bets and they have their own choice in choosing the category of which to go for, some of the betting platforms were being influenced by their developers to help advertise for more users and also set a kind of bet in which other often refer to as being manipulated, but in this case, they make use of public events for the people to cast their votes on who to win and gamblers could also use such avenue for  their own bet on their preferred candidate, if we cant afford it, we should abstain form it kind.
Everyone bets in gambling with the intention of winning but not everyone always wins at gambling  It is not even possible.  So all gamblers must understand that gambling involves taking risks and taking responsibility for their profits and losses. Don't blame someone else for your gambling losses.  For this one should always bet as much as he can afford to lose. If you panic and bet more than you can afford and lose, there is no benefit in blaming someone else or the gambling site.











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August 07, 2024, 05:26:43 PM
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People make bets and they have their own choice in choosing the category of which to go for, some of the betting platforms were being influenced by their developers to help advertise for more users and also set a kind of bet in which other often refer to as being manipulated,

There’s no such thing as manipulated bet since everything was done through random events like election which is through the vote of people which no one can expect to predict. The only way it can be manipulated if the result can be drawn through software while the casino has control over the result.

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but in this case, they make use of public events for the people to cast their votes on who to win and gamblers could also use such avenue for  their own bet on their preferred candidate, if we cant afford it, we should abstain form it kind.

This is correct, we have the right to abstain any matches if we think that the result can be manipulated. An event like election is very predictable which is why it’s result is always being subjected through cheating.

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August 07, 2024, 05:33:46 PM
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People make bets and they have their own choice in choosing the category of which to go for, some of the betting platforms were being influenced by their developers to help advertise for more users and also set a kind of bet in which other often refer to as being manipulated, but in this case, they make use of public events for the people to cast their votes on who to win and gamblers could also use such avenue for  their own bet on their preferred candidate, if we cant afford it, we should abstain form it kind.
People gamble with different intentions because some gamblers are gambling for profits while few are gambling for entertainment. However since there are different casinos on the industry we gamblers only choose the casino that will be easier for us to use, though we also find the casino that gives the best odds and bonuses to the customers. These days new casino have the easiest way to get customers because if they pay for advertising customers from different locations will know about the new casino.
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August 07, 2024, 05:38:56 PM
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Was the rule that prohibited the body guard from betting on the election stated before he places the bet, or it was afterwards that he already betted and possibility of winning before this case got triggered up to this level.

On the norm's, Individuals with an insider's Information are prohibited from certain activities and possibly the election that the arrest was done were where he is exposed to knowing the election date.
Using inside information for profit-making is a criminal offense. Such an act gives the person undue advantage over the casino and that's not fair. Bets should be based on predictions that is not backed by pre-information. Such an act is against the secrecy oath sworn by a public office close to the prime minister and is called misconduct in public office.

The Metropolitan Police said the officer, who has not still been named, has been restricted duties and will soon be charged. I did a brief search if he has been charged but there is no information on that yet.

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August 07, 2024, 05:41:41 PM
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There are gambling experts, that is true, but they never know exactly what will happen or know the results in advance. Yes, they have good strategies, but they never say they work perfectly or just always. Maybe we can say that our chance of winning is a little bit high if we have been gambling for a long time, but that doesn't mean we know everything. 

This is exactly my thoughts too about being an experienced gambler or looking for advisories from gambling experts. No gambling expert can boast of the outcome of him gamble, because many of these gambling experts work with their instincts too but mostly based on their experiences in the past. Not even a sorcerer can truly let you what exactly will happen to your game in the future, however he can use his instincts to forecast something that's close to the result on the basis of the past and the present.

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Betting sites wouldn't care as long as they make money, that's the main purpose of their business.  
I don't see this as a big deal. People should be allowed to bet on whatever they want as long as it is legal. Rather than expending a lot of energy to debating on an event why not put your money where your mouth is and get paid for it. This better than engaging in a conversation about the event where there is no financial gain other than spend on time debating without any "profit"

I respect casino that doesn't make it's customers bet on everything, it's their aim and target to make money but what about the effect it will have on the players. When you don't allow players to bet on everything, they tend not to make unnecessary bet and that will have a foster effect on their gambling lifestyle too. Imagine a person who know nothing about US election but because there is a too much target ads by Kamala and he was convinced about the upcoming election that the candidate is going but eventually, she never won and judgement is been made on something available on the internet, these is why it's best if Casino don't make all event available for gamblers.

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I respect casino that doesn't make it's customers bet on everything, it's their aim and target to make money but what about the effect it will have on the players. When you don't allow players to bet on everything, they tend not to make unnecessary bet and that will have a foster effect on their gambling lifestyle too. Imagine a person who know nothing about US election but because there is a too much target ads by Kamala and he was convinced about the upcoming election that the candidate is going but eventually, she never won and judgement is been made on something available on the internet, these is why it's best if Casino don't make all event available for gamblers.

Casino wants to make money and trending events are the things people bet on more. They are going to get some new customers if they include the US election because it is one of the most talked about events this year. The ads are for people to know that they can bet on this events and I think the staking amount is not to big that if you lose it you will be pained. Also we are not to bet on anything we do not know how to analyze or know how the game is being played. The casino are just doing their business therefore they are not not doing anything wrong with the ads. It is left for you to decide if you are going to gamble or ignore that one. If casino do not do ads, people will not just start using their casino. The ads are targeted at those that love what the ads is all about therefore I don't offend with it.

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I respect casino that doesn't make it's customers bet on everything, it's their aim and target to make money but what about the effect it will have on the players. When you don't allow players to bet on everything, they tend not to make unnecessary bet and that will have a foster effect on their gambling lifestyle too. Imagine a person who know nothing about US election but because there is a too much target ads by Kamala and he was convinced about the upcoming election that the candidate is going but eventually, she never won and judgement is been made on something available on the internet, these is why it's best if Casino don't make all event available for gamblers.

Casino wants to make money and trending events are the things people bet on more. They are going to get some new customers if they include the US election because it is one of the most talked about events this year. The ads are for people to know that they can bet on this events and I think the staking amount is not to big that if you lose it you will be pained. Also we are not to bet on anything we do not know how to analyze or know how the game is being played. The casino are just doing their business therefore they are not not doing anything wrong with the ads. It is left for you to decide if you are going to gamble or ignore that one. If casino do not do ads, people will not just start using their casino. The ads are targeted at those that love what the ads is all about therefore I don't offend with it.
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August 07, 2024, 07:53:55 PM
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People gamble with different intentions because some gamblers are gambling for profits while few are gambling for entertainment. However since there are different casinos on the industry we gamblers only choose the casino that will be easier for us to use, though we also find the casino that gives the best odds and bonuses to the customers. These days new casino have the easiest way to get customers because if they pay for advertising customers from different locations will know about the new casino.
How's that related to the initial topic? On top of that, what you're saying doesn't make too much sense, does it? No one is gambling just with the intention of entertainment; if it weren't for the money-making prospects, no one would do it. Not a single person intends to lose money, but that happens nonetheless. People will literally place a bet on anything; my mind couldn't comprehend how many unusual bets were there before I started gambling myself.

I also believe that some gambling events can be manipulated; it's no different with match staking, where a few people have inside information and you cannot exclude who's going to bet, as creating multiple accounts or finding someone else to place the bet isn't that hard.

 
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August 07, 2024, 08:10:43 PM
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There was a topic that was posted on gambling discussion not quite long about British Prime Minister bodyguard arrested for election date bet. If I understood it, people are to bet on the day the election date would be.

People can bet on Miss World, Election, Sports and other events that it is not someone that fixed the result or set the date. I have not heard of this kind of bet before until today.

Some people posted that such people like the bodyguard should not be allowed to bet on the date of Election but what if he told someone to help him out and the money will be shared? Or is something like this can not be manipulated? If you know what would be the result of something, you can do one or two or more manipulation with that thing.

I think betting sites should not be allowed to include such bet. They should not just only be blaming the man. I see the betting site faults also. Why making people to bet on a result that someone set?
For security reasons, it may not be a good idea for people in such position to be gambling especially when its related to their job, it will be best if they just not engage in such because they never can tell how much of a security bridge that can be to their principal.  in a situation as this, the gambling site cannot be blamed because some of this sites operate on anonymity and cannot know exactly who all of their customers are so anyone can gamble on the site freely until they have a reason to investigate the personality of their customers and then ascertain their identity based on the reasons for which it should be done.

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August 07, 2024, 08:38:19 PM
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Well, every country with their definition of fun and entertainment and this form of betting, is the one that at some points makes me believe a lot of people, actually bet for fun regardless of the outcome, as they might not be bothered if they win or lose their bets because I’m sure,  everyone already knows that, this kind of betting can easily be rigged without getting to have a single trace and I just think arresting the the body guard was some way of trying to make people think there are some sort of strict implications for this things and maybe drive fear into the hearts of people but I’m sure a lot of fraud will occur in this kind of betting and I agree that, I shouldn’t be accepted in gambling.

 
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August 07, 2024, 08:54:28 PM
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Was the rule that prohibited the body guard from betting on the election stated before he places the bet, or it was afterwards that he already betted and possibility of winning before this case got triggered up to this level.

On the norm's, Individuals with an insider's Information are prohibited from certain activities and possibly the election that the arrest was done were where he is exposed to knowing the election date.
He is not supposed to take a bet for himself rather he could have asked someone's else to help him at the bet. That would have been a good way to make money without anyone knowing about it.  He was never smart enough that is why he would have to make a refund because this is a big offense when it comes to gambling. If he distributed the information earlier to people that needed to make some winnings, nobody would have known what actually happens but I think this was done due to greed which is unacceptable. Gambling is meant for the smart people to make winnings while their that don't understand the rule would keep losing and complaining everytime of manipulations.

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