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June 20, 2024, 04:45:38 AM
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China's Xi accused the US of trying to trick him into invading Taiwan

US has explicitly said that they will come to Taiwan's aid if they were to be invaded by China. These two countries have tensions over different kinds of geopolitical issues not only in Taiwan.

US is an ally to many countries one being the Philippines which is surprise, surprise also has issues with China. To me it seems that US might be using other countries to go against China. If China were to attack Taiwan now, it would result in huge losses for them but this doesn't reduce their motivation to bring the lands back together as their president says.

Do you think this need of US to always be involved in many conflicts will fire back?

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June 20, 2024, 07:33:56 AM
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I still don’t understand where the United States gets so many financial and physical resources to help? At the same time, they say that they have a shortage in the army and lack the production of weapons.
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June 20, 2024, 10:46:13 AM
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I think it has much to do with the kind of government which is actually running in mainland China compared to the one going on in Taiwan... I think it would be easy to assume there is no democracy in China and since China had explicitly say they wish to annex Taiwan, then The United States ideologically, and commercially feels in the need to try to defend a democratic country being threatened by an autocratic one.
If mainland China was government in democracy and did not repress their own population, then Taiwan would not have much of a problem to join Mainland China.

Anyways, the tensions between both countries are increasing, in part because I assume Xi does not want to be replaced by the party without leaving a legacy of unification.

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June 20, 2024, 11:22:52 AM
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It's not a matter of trickery or not; it's a matter of standing true to their words when the going gets tough. For decades, the US have proffered a form of strategy ambiguity towards the Taiwanese government, neither here nor there and at the same time still acting as an ally should the Chinese government rear their heads against them.

According to what was disclosed in this press statement it shows Xi is very much interested in claiming Taiwan as part of their own and now he's saying the US are tricking him into invading Taiwan? For all we know that has been his long time dream.

The way things are going, Xi is more aggrieved that a small break away nation like Taiwan is refusing to be subdued and it's eating at his ego.
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June 20, 2024, 11:52:51 AM
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China clearly understands the negative consequences of an invasion. However, its political plan to gradually integrate Taiwan has not been successful. This is evident not only in recent elections, but also in general: there are no forces on the island that advocate for reunification with China. At the same time, the United States is actively establishing bases in the Philippines and providing weapons to Taiwan. The experience of Ukraine is also helpful: the US is saturating the strait with unmanned vessels. In parallel, microelectronics factories are being built in America to replace those in Taiwan in case of war.
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June 21, 2024, 05:42:01 AM
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According to what was disclosed in this press statement it shows Xi is very much interested in claiming Taiwan as part of their own and now he's saying the US are tricking him into invading Taiwan? For all we know that has been his long time dream.
we know the government can twist anything so that the narrative plays toward them they might cover up an elaborate attack to taiwan as some sort of defense mechanism or just an attack against the us

one thing for sure is if taiwan is attacked, the world will be in chaos

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June 21, 2024, 07:03:17 AM
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The States will not get involved in this war, the maximum will be assistance like Ukraine and nothing more.
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June 21, 2024, 09:29:32 PM
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one thing for sure is if taiwan is attacked, the world will be in chaos

I doubt that. Will there be strains in the world economy as is characterized by wars? Yes, but chaos? I doubt that. Take the issue of Ukraine -Russia war for instance. The world didn't stand still even when things became hard being that Russia is one of the power houses that supplies energy resources to not just Europe but Africa as well, so I wonder why it will when China decides to follow through with their plans.
Worst case scenario is the US will try to involve themselves, albeit covertly, and the maybe China will try to make things difficult for the US for interfering sort of, but it may not be as strong as when Russia invaded Ukraine, I tell you.
 
 
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June 21, 2024, 09:32:33 PM
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Do you think this need of US to always be involved in many conflicts will fire back?
China knows that invading Taiwan will devastate its military might and economy. I don't think that the US is also considering entering a war with China because the consequences will also be grievous. Both nations have allies that can support a large-scale war that would last for a long time. A war between these two world powers will affect the global economy more than what we are seeing currently. If Xi Jinping feels that Joe Biden is tricking him into engaging in a war, I pray he doesn't fall into the trap because my country has not recovered from the problem the Russian invasion of Ukraine caused, another war will cause more economic hardship.

The US is claiming to be the police of the world but experience has shown that it is highly impartial. They support the evil of their allies but criticize others who do the same thing. The US has no justification to condemn China while they are supporting the killing of defenseless Gazans.

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June 22, 2024, 09:46:36 PM
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(...)Do you think this need of US to always be involved in many conflicts will fire back?

The ambition for unification will not cool down, even if that hasn't happened in the near-peace period, it still doesn't guarantee that the chaotic future will have peace and avoid a war.  With the US, they are always involved in many different conflict points around the world, from the Korean war, Vietnam war, the middle east, competition with Russia, China,... yep, I can somehow feel it, but it's a glorious thing for peace to prevail in every war. I do not judge who is right/wrong in every war, but it is clear that its nature brings suffering to all sides. If there is no intervention from the US, if there is no intervention from the US, I believe the tension between China and Taiwan will cause suffering and that China will also soon integrate the island. .

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June 23, 2024, 12:19:54 AM
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China's Xi accused the US of trying to trick him into invading Taiwan

US has explicitly said that they will come to Taiwan's aid if they were to be invaded by China. These two countries have tensions over different kinds of geopolitical issues not only in Taiwan.

US is an ally to many countries one being the Philippines which is surprise, surprise also has issues with China. To me it seems that US might be using other countries to go against China. If China were to attack Taiwan now, it would result in huge losses for them but this doesn't reduce their motivation to bring the lands back together as their president says.

Do you think this need of US to always be involved in many conflicts will fire back?

The Phillipines has a serious and ongoing issue with China, due to China's (illegal) claims over the South China Sea, well beyond the usual territorial waters that nations are entitled to. This is reflected in the constant low-intensity violence exerted over the Philippine fishing boats.

Philippines has not been an ally of the US until recently, and this has a lot to do with China's policy. China is no victim in all this.

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There are many benefits from various sectors if a country is able to become a priority for China / small countries around it, that trade affiliation will be more secure, China is stronger and is no longer a competitor that can compete but a big bubble. As a country that can only be a business strategy partner, it even has to invite other countries to come out, although this is an old-fashioned way of raising and looking for groups that have the same vision and combine, the interests of the leaders and the ongoing rumours of issues, conflicts and debates may have their benefits. but I don't support it. Speaking of America is the centre of business information and a lot of momentum comes from there whether fud or fomo an investment but China is technical and has a wide market, it's natural that America wants to be seen and not be displaced from the world view.

If seen from the bloodline, maybe Taiwan and China are still more closely related, great power, a lot of human resources and advanced export / economy to make China stronger, if the merger between Taiwan and China is possible and more entitled or necessary to do it will eventually be accepted, I don't understand what happened deeper there. if it can be done safely, the community is prosperous and mutual tolerance in terms of the smallest things whatever it is better than upholding ego and violence for power or defence.


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I think that renowned world powers like the USA, Russia and china likes to flex their muscles by playing big brotherly roles to countries that are perceived to be weaker and getting as many allies as possible to show superiority to the other world powers. America prides itself as a leading democratic country and they will become an ally with countries that are near a rival world power that wants to secure their sovereignty. It is not surprising that America, will support Taiwan, and stand by them against any oppression from china, meanwhile China, wants to subdue Taiwan, as one of it's own. With the experience of what is going on in with the invasion of Russia into Ukraine, that is still ongoing, china, must now understand that invading Taiwan, will not be a piece of cake because of the American influence.
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The Phillipines has a serious and ongoing issue with China, due to China's (illegal) claims over the South China Sea, well beyond the usual territorial waters that nations are entitled to. This is reflected in the constant low-intensity violence exerted over the Philippine fishing boats.

Philippines has not been an ally of the US until recently, and this has a lot to do with China's policy. China is no victim in all this.

The US is a long-time ally of the Philippines. They used to have two bases here, and they have an iron-clad agreement in case of an armed attack against the Philippines.
If you've been reading the news lately, China has shown aggressiveness against the Philippines Coast Guard, which is just resupplying a wrecked vessel that resulted in one of the Philippine Coast Guard injury.
Yes, China is bullying the Asian region. He wants Taiwan and the West Philippine sea and will want more in the future.

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June 28, 2024, 08:58:51 PM
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China is just a few nautical miles away from Taiwan and they can invade it anytime they wish to. But I don't think that they'll ever do that. Because if they want to do that, they've done that long time ago but still, they're probably trying to do something right with this and to avoid a heavy damage that many civilians will be affected. So, with bilateral talks and trades, that's how they're going to fix this issue. However, thanks to the ally of Taiwan, the US, instead of focusing their affairs within their internal problem on its own land, they're going outside of it to spread the wildfire through potential poking its alliances against its neighboring threats.

As for its other neighboring country like Philippines. China has also been dealing with them but they think that they can do fight against these two countries plus the alliance of it with the USA. It's all about expanding territories, the richness of the area whilst for Taiwan, it's about semi conductors and for the waters of the Philippines, it's about the oils and minerals that have been found there. Well, people are tired of war, the leaders can have bilateral talks and agree to their terms as much as they can for both interest and good of their nations and people.

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June 29, 2024, 11:09:20 AM
 #16

Let's wish Taiwan good luck in gaining independence.
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