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June 20, 2024, 06:52:47 AM
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Today, EU politicians are deciding on our freedom and our right to privacy. The date for the vote has been postponed several times. Today is the last day to decide. Keep your fingers crossed that the EU politicians do not betray their citizens (= slaves).

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June 20, 2024, 11:01:49 AM
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The decision has been postponed for an undetermined period of time. Again and again.
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June 20, 2024, 11:10:08 AM
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Use PGP, instead of relying on a company for your privacy.

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June 20, 2024, 01:06:14 PM
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PGP for everyone. For my kids, parents, neighbors Wink
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June 21, 2024, 11:55:30 PM
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The decision has been postponed for an undetermined period of time. Again and again.

The reason for the repeated postponement is not yet known?  However, in present day politics they deprive the people of their rights in various ways by resorting to lies. They got elected with the current fraudulent vote and started to push the people again and again.


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June 22, 2024, 06:53:55 AM
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I see this as contradictory to data protection legislation, which goes to absurd lengths. Now they are coming up with another absurdity, a big brother of communications for a supposedly good cause, of course, and which will not be used to stop criminals, who will move to other, more secure forms of communication, but for total control of the population. There has already been a first proposal for legislation on this which was defeated, and hopefully will be again.


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June 22, 2024, 04:33:03 PM
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I see this as contradictory to data protection legislation, which goes to absurd lengths. Now they are coming up with another absurdity, a big brother of communications for a supposedly good cause, of course, and which will not be used to stop criminals, who will move to other, more secure forms of communication, but for total control of the population. There has already been a first proposal for legislation on this which was defeated, and hopefully will be again.



Ironically, I could see criminals learning how to use PGP and other asymmetric cryptography tools for them to continue to operate far away from the radar of authorities, while the common population would feel those tools not to be easy to use, in the end, I agree with you, it is not about stopping criminals, otherwise, the authorities would not treat all of us as criminals and put on the table these laws which are dragonian and argueagly, against the human rigths of all of us.
This is an issue which I would consider to be more serious than the neutrality of the internet, by the way... which was restored, If I recall correctly.

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June 22, 2024, 04:36:40 PM
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All politicians ever accomplish is to erode the rights and freedoms of law abiding citizens.  Criminals don't care about the politicians or their laws, that's what makes them criminals.   Cool 

Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked. -Warren Buffett
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June 22, 2024, 08:10:54 PM
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It's funny because they want to check things because they may contain illegal stuff. Since when is that allowed by international law? The police can't search you because they think you MIGHT have something illegal. They need probable cause. The same with a car or a house, they can't enter unless they see or hear something that suggests a crime being committed. For instance if they see you standing in the window with a gun, aiming at people outside they can enter even if you haven't shot anyone yet and the gun is fake, but they can't enter to check if you have a gun at home.
This stupid EU law allows them to spy on people without that probable cause just to see if there isn't anything illegal in their conversations. Just wait until they decide that holding bitcoin without disclosing it to the authorities is illegal and start checking your internet searches for anything bitcoin related to see if you're a holder.

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