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June 25, 2024, 09:35:53 AM
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If you look at charts and believe in patterns, there's no worse time to buy than today.  Cheesy
I am pretty sure it will drop to 40k USD, the momentum is huge.
After that, my bet is it will stagnate for another few years until another halving and get another short-term pump to 90k after which we might see 60k USD as average price.

If you're not in for long-term, this is your last time to sell before it hits 40th floor, and if you're a gambler then you know what to do - sell now, buy back at cheaper price  Wink


You are really a real "optimist", so although I'm not sure if you're serious or kidding, I wouldn't agree that we'll have to wait years for a new bull run, because the effects of the halving that took place a few months ago haven't even started to be realized yet. According to what you wrote, the last halving will not have any effect, and spot ETFs, which are mostly responsible for the current price, were only a short-term interest that will fade away.

There is not much logic in that to me, especially if we know that this time of year is not very "productive", and besides, people are obviously reacting to the news about Mt.Gox and BTC allegedly being sold by the German government. Weak hands are everywhere, but that's how it always was and always will be.

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June 25, 2024, 09:50:55 AM
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You are really a real "optimist", so although I'm not sure if you're serious or kidding,

I'd rather be pessimistic and wrong than optimistic and wrong  Wink

My numbers are as good as anyone else, Bitcoin price is a wild animal and no one is able to predict it.

You may bet on past halving patterns but big sharks have more to earn by eating all the small fishes and they can easily dump the price and wait 10 years if they have to.

Not many people can hold for that long, unexpected life situations will force many to sell at lower prices than they bought.

My prediction is not that pessimistic though as I wrote it will go up but in a longer time frame.
I know most people prefer huge pumps vs stability  Wink

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June 25, 2024, 10:35:52 AM
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There are time to invest in bitcoin which is the bull season and there are time not to invest in bitcoin which is the bear season. The bull season has started since 2023 and not yet over. Investing in bitcoin right now would be good. But not all the time someone can invest in bitcoin. There are sometimes that you just need to wait until the massive bear season is over but we are not yet in that period of time.
Just as Bitcoin has had a record number of major pump, it has also had a record number of major crashes.  If you invest in bitcoin during bull season, you can make quick profit from here but there are many risks here because suddenly if bitcoin dumping starts then you will be in big loss and you have to hold bitcoin for a long time to recover that loss and make profit it may be 4-5  years too  So investing in crypto is risky and you have to accept that it is not bull season when bitcoin is in a lot of dip then it is better to invest in bitcoin and in that case even if you invest for long term the profit is very big.

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June 25, 2024, 11:35:49 AM
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There are time to invest in bitcoin which is the bull season and there are time not to invest in bitcoin which is the bear season. The bull season has started since 2023 and not yet over. Investing in bitcoin right now would be good. But not all the time someone can invest in bitcoin. There are sometimes that you just need to wait until the massive bear season is over but we are not yet in that period of time.
Just as Bitcoin has had a record number of major pump, it has also had a record number of major crashes.  If you invest in bitcoin during bull season, you can make quick profit from here but there are many risks here because suddenly if bitcoin dumping starts then you will be in big loss and you have to hold bitcoin for a long time to recover that loss and make profit it may be 4-5  years too  So investing in crypto is risky and you have to accept that it is not bull season when bitcoin is in a lot of dip then it is better to invest in bitcoin and in that case even if you invest for long term the profit is very big.

Bitcoin investors know that they will have to wait a long time if they get caught in a bear season. If you enter the bull season prepared, you can make a lot of profit from Bitcoin. As you said, there are risks and if the Bitcoin price starts to fall and this drop happens suddenly, it may be necessary to wait for a long time.

Every investor knows that there is a risk factor and invests accordingly. One of the advantages of Bitcoin is that it always makes a profit in the long run. The hard part is waiting as long as necessary.

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June 25, 2024, 05:40:14 PM
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There's no better time than now, bitcoin has dipped so well that anybody that was avoiding to buy at a higher price just got very lucky to invest now.

I've taken advantage of this bear trend and increased my portfolio because delay is dangerous. I advise others to do the same because good prices like this don't last. If you've the funds to invest, the time is now!!.

Doubt's are part of humanity, but bitcoin's history and track record is enough to convince anyone of its potentials. So cut the doubt and Invest!!.
This is the same as the term planting today, of course you will see the results in the future, for example, if you get quite a large profit today from Bitcoin, of course you planted it not yesterday, right? Yes, if you delay until the price you want, you will never get what you expect, because no one can really predict the price perfectly. It's true what you said, start your investment as soon as possible, if you are sure and have good enough knowledge of crypto in this case you don't need to delay it. Delaying will make you regret it later and if the price increases and the price you want never reaches it and the price gets higher.

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June 25, 2024, 05:53:33 PM
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There's no better time than now, bitcoin has dipped so well that anybody that was avoiding to buy at a higher price just got very lucky to invest now.

I've taken advantage of this bear trend and increased my portfolio because delay is dangerous. I advise others to do the same because good prices like this don't last. If you've the funds to invest, the time is now!!.

Doubt's are part of humanity, but bitcoin's history and track record is enough to convince anyone of its potentials. So cut the doubt and Invest!!.
This is the same as the term planting today, of course you will see the results in the future, for example, if you get quite a large profit today from Bitcoin, of course you planted it not yesterday, right? Yes, if you delay until the price you want, you will never get what you expect, because no one can really predict the price perfectly. It's true what you said, start your investment as soon as possible, if you are sure and have good enough knowledge of crypto in this case you don't need to delay it. Delaying will make you regret it later and if the price increases and the price you want never reaches it and the price gets higher.
When taking up some position and planning to have that long term hold then it would really be that best that you shouldnt really be waiting for some huge dump or crash in the market because it would really be that eventually be going up, but somehow we cant blame those people who would really be having those kind of views considering that maximum profitability would really be the main reason on why they would really be having such approach on which this is something that they will really be that targeting or prioritizing on which it will really be just that normal. It doesnt matter on what are the decisions that we are making, just make it sure
that you are really just that investing into the amount that it wont really be that affecting your finances on the moment that crypto investment would really be that going south.

It would really be just that depending on you whether you would be making investment as of this moment or waiting up for the right opportunity. It would really be always your own choice
and it would really be always your decision on where you would really be making yourself having that entry or would really be waiting up further.

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June 26, 2024, 09:36:12 AM
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You are really a real "optimist", so although I'm not sure if you're serious or kidding,
I'd rather be pessimistic and wrong than optimistic and wrong  Wink
My numbers are as good as anyone else, Bitcoin price is a wild animal and no one is able to predict it.


I have nothing against it, everyone decides for himself how he will stand towards something. Regarding the price, I somewhat agree with your description, but still taking into account the past in combination with solid facts that can be analyzed, the price can be somewhat predicted. Of course, something completely unexpected can always happen, but considering that I've been involved in all this for about 10 years, I've learned some things and I'm not too worried because the price fell by 5% two days ago, just as I won't be overly thrilled if it goes up by 10% today.

You may bet on past halving patterns but big sharks have more to earn by eating all the small fishes and they can easily dump the price and wait 10 years if they have to.
Not many people can hold for that long, unexpected life situations will force many to sell at lower prices than they bought.
My prediction is not that pessimistic though as I wrote it will go up but in a longer time frame.
I know most people prefer huge pumps vs stability  Wink


Big fish always eat small fish, that's the law of nature - but small fish always find ways to survive. Whales can do whatever they want, they have learned that profit can be taken practically every day, why wait 10 years?

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If someone intends to invest in 1 bitcoin now, then it is quite risky, but when the price reaches $100k, it will make the investor very happy. However, if you are hesitant about investing a large amount at once, then someone can use the DCA method, or buy it little by little but consistently.
Many people are hesitant to buy bitcoin because they are afraid of the volatile prices that occur. yeah, I feel that way. However, if one is confident about the future development of bitcoin prices, I think doing the DCA method is the best.


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June 26, 2024, 04:47:51 PM
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If someone intends to invest in 1 bitcoin now, then it is quite risky, but when the price reaches $100k, it will make the investor very happy. However, if you are hesitant about investing a large amount at once, then someone can use the DCA method, or buy it little by little but consistently.
Many people are hesitant to buy bitcoin because they are afraid of the volatile prices that occur. yeah, I feel that way. However, if one is confident about the future development of bitcoin prices, I think doing the DCA method is the best.
When someone still has doubts about investing in Bitcoin, I don't think that person has a good understanding of how to invest and how Bitcoin works so that they can make a profit from investing in Bitcoin and if they can understand well how Bitcoin works, they will certainly be able to do it. investing according to their abilities and not forcing themselves to invest beyond their capabilities, of course this will be detrimental to themselves and they will not be able to make a profit.

Using the DCA method as you mentioned will be very easy to do and we only need to set a purchase date according to what we want and continue to do it consistently and for some people there are those who make purchases at once so this will benefit them if they know the right time to buy it, but this is difficult for us to do if we have little capital.

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June 26, 2024, 05:15:03 PM
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Big fish always eat small fish, that's the law of nature - but small fish always find ways to survive. Whales can do whatever they want, they have learned that profit can be taken practically every day, why wait 10 years?

Because they don't want small fishes to become bigger and eat any of their profits by selling out, this is repeating behavior for years now.
They pump the price up so people buy in FOMO then dump it all and wait few years, then repeat at higher levels with the money they have obtained to get more people fish on board.

It's practically a legal scam to pump and dump, manipulate the market as they like by colluding with other sharks on their meetings.
You can call it a conspiracy theory but I've seen it first hand in different markets.
They don't care about Bitcoin, all they want is to eat small fishes who think they can make it - and most of them can't because life is full of surprises.

Of course, something completely unexpected can always happen, but considering that I've been involved in all this for about 10 years, I've learned some things

This sharks have been doing this type of manipulations long before we were alive, 10 years is nothing.
Their knowledge and techniques are far more sophisticated that you can imagine and compared to them we're nothing more than wishful gamblers and we can't do nothing about it, just watch the show and hope for the best.

The technology behind Bitcoin is pure and honest but the big money and some people involved in it are very dirty, evil to the bone and clever.

tl;dr; Just holding is the best option but not everyone can afford another 10, 15 years and due to the gambling nature of the space some people will try to time the market and that's where they will lose.

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June 26, 2024, 06:07:18 PM
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Those people who think you're late investing in Bitcoin are those who are afraid to lose money. Investing always has a risk but if you believe in Bitcoin and if you can control your emotions then profitability will only come every 4 years, people who know more about Bitcoin already know the cycle every 4 years it is proven to always reach the new ATH.
Newbies or people who do not have much knowledge about Bitcoin are people who will always lose in the end because fear will consume them and lead to selling all their holdings.
Their is no late time to invest in bitcoin but fear allows some people to feel that their is only a time when it is good to buy bitcoin to hodl. For those who truly understands bitcoin it is always good to buy bitcoin whenever one can afford it, waiting for the price to get to the amount which is okay with one can be a waste of time. Buying now is a good opportunity that may take a longer time for one  to come across it again.

But I don't really blame those who think it is always late to invest in bitcoin because they do not have the real understanding to know that everything is an opportunity to buy bitcoin to invest.

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June 26, 2024, 06:12:38 PM
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Bitcoin investors know that they will have to wait a long time if they get caught in a bear season. If you enter the bull season prepared, you can make a lot of profit from Bitcoin. As you said, there are risks and if the Bitcoin price starts to fall and this drop happens suddenly, it may be necessary to wait for a long time.

Every investor knows that there is a risk factor and invests accordingly. One of the advantages of Bitcoin is that it always makes a profit in the long run. The hard part is waiting as long as necessary.
It is important that every investor understands risk and can control emotions when prices fall, because Bitcoin is very volatile if we do not understand our risks will be trapped even with panic so that we sell it when the price falls. Because basically investing in bitcoin will not suffer losses if we do not sell it even if the price goes down we only need to hold and be patient until the price rises again.

The average investor that produces significant profits for those who are patient. In addition, we entered Bull Run after a few months ago there was a halving bitcoin, at this time bitcoin had not yet fully risen and usually bitcoin would reach the highest peak a few months after this halving occurred, we can see from the history of the previous halving. Although the time is different, but I believe the pattern will remain the same.

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June 26, 2024, 08:03:52 PM
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I don’t feel sorry for anyone. You don’t expect everyone to invest in bitcoin, they might have their own personal reasons why they are not interested in bitcoin. There are other investments, and that doesn’t mean they won’t be making good profits from other investments they make. If I can just introduce anyone to bitcoin investment and they are not interested, I don’t even stress myself, it’s their money, and they can choose to do whatever they want with the money.
It’s true, what we might believe in might not be something another person might believe in so same thing applies to bitcoin. No matter how well bitcoin goes there will still be those who will not want anything to do with it due to personal reasons and they can’t be forced to change their mind. It’s their loss for not hopping on the train and sooner or later they will come to realize their mistake and they would wish they have given it a chance since.

Introducing a person to invest is not something i fancy unless if i see that they are interested but i don’t make the move of introducing people and trying to convince them to invest anymore.

I mean why would anyone even have doubts when they've seen Bitcoin set different ATH since it's creation to this point, well there would always be a doubting Thomas, those who would still find it difficult to believe even when they've seen prove that sometime is real.
A lot of people didn’t believe bitcoin will survive to this point and this has actually made some people change their minds about it but there are still those who still don’t believe in it till this day but it’s their loss, they don’t know what they are missing the opportunity and benefits bitcoin provides.

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Those people who think you're late investing in Bitcoin are those who are afraid to lose money. Investing always has a risk but if you believe in Bitcoin and if you can control your emotions then profitability will only come every 4 years, people who know more about Bitcoin already know the cycle every 4 years it is proven to always reach the new ATH.
Newbies or people who do not have much knowledge about Bitcoin are people who will always lose in the end because fear will consume them and lead to selling all their holdings.
Their is no late time to invest in bitcoin but fear allows some people to feel that their is only a time when it is good to buy bitcoin to hodl. For those who truly understands bitcoin it is always good to buy bitcoin whenever one can afford it, waiting for the price to get to the amount which is okay with one can be a waste of time. Buying now is a good opportunity that may take a longer time for one  to come across it again.

But I don't really blame those who think it is always late to invest in bitcoin because they do not have the real understanding to know that everything is an opportunity to buy bitcoin to invest.
What makes them hesitate is that on the moment that they've seen the price is already that high then they would really be having those thoughts that they should wait for the price to go down or having those crashes
and this is the main reason on why there would really be those people who do get left behind on the moment that the price would really be moving upwards and this is where regret would really be tending to kick in
and making those regrets that they should have invested or entered on that particular time on the moment that they have seen it.  Its never been too late for Bitcoin investment, although you should really be that making yourself wary that when it comes to potential profits that you could possibly get then it would really be just that depending on how much that you have invested and also dont expect for something easy x2 or x3 with the price because basing up on the current price of Bitcoin now and its marketcap then it wont really be that easy on achieving those high prices but well it would really be just that depending on you whether you could
really be able to handle out such thing or you would really be opting out on investing with altcoins.

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It's practically a legal scam to pump and dump, manipulate the market as they like by colluding with other sharks on their meetings.
You can call it a conspiracy theory but I've seen it first hand in different markets.
They don't care about Bitcoin, all they want is to eat small fishes who think they can make it - and most of them can't because life is full of surprises.


Of course they don't care about BTC, that's why they are doing everything to kill the idea that "BTC is a cryptocurrency" and reduce everything to ordinary investing where "they" have a far greater advantage than us mere mortals. However, I think that a lot of small fish will avoid their nets because they understand how the game works.

The technology behind Bitcoin is pure and honest but the big money and some people involved in it are very dirty, evil to the bone and clever.

tl;dr; Just holding is the best option but not everyone can afford another 10, 15 years and due to the gambling nature of the space some people will try to time the market and that's where they will lose.


There are many more good people than bad people in the world, the only problem is that some very bad people have too much power that they use to harm good people. The world always revolves around power, and power comes from money, and those who print money are at the top of the pyramid.

As for holding, I think that most people can do a lot with a smart approach, and I think that a lot of people do it the right way. Of course, not everyone can succeed, but Bitcoin gives everyone a chance to change their life.

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Of course they don't care about BTC, that's why they are doing everything to kill the idea that "BTC is a cryptocurrency" and reduce everything to ordinary investing
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As for holding, I think that most people can do a lot with a smart approach, and I think that a lot of people do it the right way. Of course, not everyone can succeed, but Bitcoin gives everyone a chance to change their life.

That's the problem, Bitcoin is mostly "used" for holding so it's not being used.
The transactions we see on the blockchain are mostly bots trading back and forth between themself.

Bitcoin is losing the biggest market of them all, being Money - and has been reduced to a real estate investment thanks to Saylor and other idiots.

If the "digital gold / real estate" narration was ditched and Bitcoin got back to it's roots being digital cash it could sky rocket in price but first protocol would need to be updated to scale more (dynamic block size).

Instead the evil people that are behind the scenes are pushing the promise of L2 fixing everything to earn money from fees on LN that is a big failure.
Even one of the main devs ditched the project because current exploitable behavior can't be fixed without changing Bitcoin protocol, on top of that it's getting more and more centralized and when Bitcoin is overloaded with transactions it doesn't work at all - nice scaling solution lol.

People need to realize one thing: Bitcoin is digital cash first, if it fails at it - it has no reason to exist.
But the main reason people get into Bitcoin is to become "rich" in FIAT terms by just holding it, and they are the reason it's failing.

I talked about it in my little funny (but not funny) topic here:
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If someone intends to invest in 1 bitcoin now, then it is quite risky, but when the price reaches $100k, it will make the investor very happy. However, if you are hesitant about investing a large amount at once, then someone can use the DCA method, or buy it little by little but consistently.
Many people are hesitant to buy bitcoin because they are afraid of the volatile prices that occur. yeah, I feel that way. However, if one is confident about the future development of bitcoin prices, I think doing the DCA method is the best.
I say don’t invest if you’re still not ready to invest. Being hesitant is normal for all beginner investors. But you shouldn’t stop there but learn to study bitcoin instead and analyze yourself if you are willing to take calculated risk or not, otherwise investing in bitcoin is just a product of forced decision and it’s not helping you at all.

However, DCA is a good option to conquer your doubts and hesitation. Just buy using a small amount, something that won’t matter at all if ever you lose your capital.

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Doubt is the mother of all fuck ups.

Never doubt. Better be sorry for doing it than not doing it. Gold has a history of multiple thousand years as money. Bitcoin has been around a little more than a decade. That means we are still the early adopters. Imagine the price of a bitcoin 10 years from now… It will be around a million usd probably. I don’t know about you but $1m is something people can retire on.

Think for the long term and you’ll be fine. If you get caught in the short term price actions you won’t achieve anything. People who made the most money from bitcoin did nothing but hodling. This is the way.

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Imagine the price of a bitcoin 10 years from now… It will be around a million usd probably.

It will be around 1M USD or 1 USD if nothing gets fixed.

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~snip~
Nevertheless, if there's anyone who's willing to invest in Bitcoin but still have doubts, I put it to you that the best decision you'll make is to buy Bitcoin and Hodl, don't get discouraged by the drop in price cause I believe you should've known by now what volatility means.


I don't know why it occurs to people to open topics like this as if it will help someone to overcome their doubt - after all, this is a BTT forum where most people still own more or less BTC. Advising people what to do with their money is mostly a bad idea, and when it comes to BTC, it's not just about the price, but all other risks arising from such an investment should be taken into account.

Telling someone to buy BTC is easy, but if that's the only advice you're going to give someone, then maybe it's better not to say anything.
Your right that we have to take the risks into account but don't you think that the safest coin to invest into the world of crypto is Bitcoin?

We have seen in the past that coin have dumped so many people but Bitcoin had make people to wait for profits but it never dumped it's investors. I think the safest one to invest is Bitcoin.

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