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June 23, 2024, 03:17:39 PM Last edit: June 23, 2024, 03:40:05 PM by sdsp |
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This person is a scammer who asked me to send money for a cloud account. After receiving the coins, he promptly deleted the Telegram chat. Please, be careful! What happened:: I ordered a cloud account, and we agreed to purchase accounts one at a time. However, after I sent the money for the first account, he told me that he had scammed me, lol Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3615306Reference Link: Telegram @PACMANON Amount Scammed: 15 USD Payment Method: BCH Proof of Payment: https://imgur.com/a/DDf7pKWPM/Chat Logs: Second before he delete the Telegram chat I took an screenshot https://imgur.com/a/DDf7pKWAdditional Notes: I couldn't find any negative notes about him, so I'm sharing this so no one else falls for his scam.
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Charles-Tim
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June 23, 2024, 03:24:12 PM |
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You are referring to this user? P.A.C.M.A.N.You are not having enough evidence. You supposed to have at least an evidence on this forum and you can also use escrow instead because P.A.C.M.A.N is not yet a reputed member on this forum.
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June 23, 2024, 03:31:35 PM |
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Please use this form in your OP by editing it, you can copy and edit this Scam Report Format. [b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b] You also can visit this thread to see an example on how to fill it out well. You need evidence about what happened exactly with this user, add his profile link, explain more how did you get his contact. If you fail providing all these details and proofs, you can’t form a valid case against this person. Taking also that you are a brand new member here, nobody will believe anything you would say without clear evidence.
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Fixelifix
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June 23, 2024, 03:56:23 PM |
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He deposited your money to Stake.com , probably a gambling addict.
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bittraffic
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June 23, 2024, 03:59:30 PM |
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P.A.C.M.A.N: Scammed U P.A.C.M.A.N: Byee
LOL I have no idea what that cloud account you are buying but are you not able to buy it from an official website? You need to prove that PACMAN really owns @PACMANON telegram account. It probably is in your messages in bitcointalk account. Without the two accounts linked together, it will only appear you are accusing someone. It's a good thing it's just a small amount though but the scammer this is getting bolder.
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June 23, 2024, 04:01:59 PM |
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This is not a solid proof to connect someone Bitcointalk to telegram account unless you can provide that he contacted you using the Bitcointalk account and stated that he will use that specific telegram username. Despite the suspect here is low rank, anyone can use someone Bitcointalk account to deal with you on telegram through impersonation. Please provide screenshot of telegram username and the message that will link to his bitcointalk account.
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sdsp (OP)
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June 23, 2024, 04:33:30 PM |
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P.A.C.M.A.N: Scammed U P.A.C.M.A.N: Byee
LOL I have no idea what that cloud account you are buying but are you not able to buy it from an official website? You need to prove that PACMAN really owns @PACMANON telegram account. It probably is in your messages in bitcointalk account. Without the two accounts linked together, it will only appear you are accusing someone. It's a good thing it's just a small amount though but the scammer this is getting bolder. Here is his Telegram account! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5497467.msg64113394
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Orpichukwu
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June 23, 2024, 05:00:50 PM |
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That's a bit explainable as to where you got the telegram username from, as I was about to ask the same question, but even as a member who doesn't have any reputation for any financial deal conducted successfully, you need to proceed with caution when dealing with such users. You could have also dropped a comment on his thread before kickstarting the telegram conversation. At least some members could have seen the deal trying to go down and possibly warned you of the risk of not using an escrow. I don't know if much could be done here, as I even searched for the address the accused gave to you on Telegram on the forum, and it's nowhere to be found or used by that member before. It could have been a lot easier to nail him down with that.
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June 23, 2024, 07:47:23 PM |
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sadly there is no way to get back the money you lost(unless he gives it back) so the next best thing is to create a flag against the user, given the evidence you provided I'll support it, though my support won't really have much effect on the flag you'll create against him since I am not part of DT.
I hope this becomes a lesson, also as Charles-Tim has mentioned, use escrow. it might cost you more money but it will surely be much more secure and safer than not using an escrow.
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Charles-Tim
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June 23, 2024, 08:15:50 PM |
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I will give the account a neutral tag right now. sadly there is no way to get back the money you lost(unless he gives it back) so the next best thing is to create a flag against the user, given the evidence you provided I'll support it, though my support won't really have much effect on the flag you'll create against him since I am not part of DT.
There is no evidence that P.A.C.M.A.N. scammed him. Scam without evidence is not appropriate. Reg flag would be after people have known that the user is a scammer or intending to scam. But it would be good to give the user a neutral tag to warn any other people to either use escrow or to avoid him.
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I have a strong hunch this might be yet another alt account belonging to that known scammer Humbertin (who is also ban evading, by the way). I believe P.A.C.M.A.N. is an alt account of user MadHatters - the one with the history of pulling similar scams here on the forums. Both are selling accounts, both use the same shady M.O. (the same style and multiple Telegram accounts to cover their tracks), both were active in the same Spanish-speaking locale, and there was some merit-sharing going on for what looks to be a pretty low-value post. If I remember correctly, MadHatters is a proven Humbertin scammer alt account.
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June 23, 2024, 08:17:38 PM |
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Do you have any further evidence that the Telegram account belongs to that Bitcointalk user?
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Do you have any further evidence that the Telegram account belongs to that Bitcointalk user?
He provided evidence already in one of his posts on this thread:
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June 23, 2024, 08:46:28 PM |
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What cloud account was that OP? is it with google cloud, icloud, etc? I think that if it's with these accounts, you should just make your own and pay the premium for each of those instead of dealing with someone from the forum that don't have a reputation yet. Or if you will do this again, $15 seems to be a small amount to get escrowed with but many of them would want clean and safe transactions for everybody and that's why just do it with someone who's a good reputation upon doing these kinds of sales.
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Stalker22
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There is no evidence that P.A.C.M.A.N. scammed him. Scam without evidence is not appropriate. Reg flag would be after people have known that the user is a scammer or intending to scam. But it would be good to give the user a neutral tag to warn any other people to either use escrow or to avoid him.
I dont think we can expect more evidence than has already been given in this case. The OP provided a screenshot of the telegram conversation where it is clear that this was a blatant scam. Also, there is a blockchain transaction that confirms his side of the story: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/qzqnd3leje7zcktrlkaek2k4xyeuemln5spt05w0ppI understand that screenshots can be manipulated, but I dont think there is any other way to prove that P.A.C.M.A.N. did not fulfill his part of the agreement. Therefore unless P.A.C.M.A.N. come here and prove the opposite, I think this is enough for a negative tag.
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Similar complaints in another thread too. I think P.A.C.M.A.N is a scammer. It's just that the previous complainants did not bother to produce evidence or show us how he tried to scam them. That's why he hasn't had any negative tag of flag until today There is also a claim that he is connected to MadHatters, another scammer Alleged connection:Other complaintsP.A.C.M.A.N. Just tried to scam me, this post saved me from it. Thanks
This user tried to scam me as well.
First attempt was in another forum where he was looking for Paypal to USDT (Me Paypal). This was way back in March 23 of this year (I can present proof of our telegram discussion)
Now, this user tried to scam me again by reaching out to me in this forum attempting to buy my $1k voucher.
How did I know it's the same user? Telegram. I searched for his telegram or email throughout the forum since I am unable to send anymore DMs due to forum limits.
I would highly recommend everyone to stay away from this user.
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June 23, 2024, 10:11:41 PM |
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Similar complaints in another thread too. I think P.A.C.M.A.N is a scammer. It's just that the previous complainants did not bother to produce evidence or show us how he tried to scam them. That's why he hasn't had any negative tag of flag until today
In fact, he had already received several negative ratings before this case. However, these ratings were from users who weren't DT members and were therefore hidden under "Untrusted Feedback." It seems oldsnail was the first DT member to complain about the scam: Deleted. Job completed. Thanks P.A.C.M.A.N.
Edited: I gave him a second job and he scammed me of $150 by running away without completing the task. Do not trust him.
Unfortunately, none of them bothered to create a proper scam accusation, so it remained under the radar of DT members.
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June 23, 2024, 10:34:22 PM |
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P.A.C.M.A.N: Scammed U P.A.C.M.A.N: Byee
LOL Based on the screenshot of the chat that OP posted, it seems P.A.C.M.A.N has been a long time scammer. I can see a similarity to another screenshot shared by another user about a month ago. Recklessizm also shared a screenshot as reference to the feedback he had left him. it's unfortunate he did not open a scam accusation, but he (the scammer) said the same thing. Hello Scammed you source: https://prnt.sc/KMsjabBXuI9o
I have created a Trust flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3315. Please support.
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June 23, 2024, 10:56:42 PM |
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I backed the Flag but I doubt we'll see him use this account more and he'll probably move to a new alt to continue scamming. Especially if this is indeed a case related to our well-known serial scammer Humbertin. He's like a cockroach - impossible to squash completely. Just gotta keep exposing his scams wherever he pops up.
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June 24, 2024, 03:55:48 PM |
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@sdsp Not that it matters, but have you informed P.A.C.M.A.N. about this scam accusation that you have created? I doubt he will care or even post here, but you never know. Despite there not being definitive proof, tagging him and creating a flag that the community supported was the right call.
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