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June 25, 2024, 08:43:19 AM
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I cannot remember which mobile wallets they were but I can remember taking a couple of screenshots of my seed phrases before. That was several years ago, though. Latest updates could have already added screenshot prevention features. Those were wallets on iOS, by the way.

Although this is a nice security addition to wallets, this might not be that helpful especially to those who are lazy or those who don't understand why screenshot protection features are in place. Other than the fact that this could also be disabled or overridden by another application, others might simply take a pic at the seed phrase.

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June 25, 2024, 09:20:47 AM
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I cannot remember which mobile wallets they were but I can remember taking a couple of screenshots of my seed phrases before. That was several years ago, though. Latest updates could have already added screenshot prevention features. Those were wallets on iOS, by the way.

Although this is a nice security addition to wallets, this might not be that helpful especially to those who are lazy or those who don't understand why screenshot protection features are in place. Other than the fact that this could also be disabled or overridden by another application, others might simply take a pic at the seed phrase.
laziness to write out your seed phrase is the main reason why some people attempt taking screenshots of there seed phrase. I had made several attempts to do the screenshot and it didn't work out, the next thing that came to my mind was to do a screen record while I'm on the position of the seedphase afterwards I could just pause the video and do a screenshot. All these shortcuts contribute to exposing yourself to lots of risk that's everywhere due to how insecure our mobile device are.

Another feature that needs to be disabled is allowing you to copy your seedphase to your clipboard, Most wallet allows you to copy your seedphase to your clipboard at a single click and the first thing that comes to mind after copying it is to save it up in your notepad or somewhere in your mobile device. I guess part of the consideration to take while choosing a wallet should be to check out for how concerned they are for the security and safety of her users. If they are negligence with users safety like the case with trust wallet that recommends users to backup her seed phrase on cloud, it's certainly a red flag to be mindful of.

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June 25, 2024, 11:55:36 AM
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If there is this feature for a wallet that makes people avoid taking screenshots is going to be a good one. But I do not think that there will be one to have it or if there is any, I haven't seen one.

An app that I have used before like Netflix doesn't allow their users to take screenshots of their episodes or any movie and series to be taken because that is their property.

As for us users, it seems to be convenient mostly for the newbies but it is not advisable.
There are wallets that doesn't allow screenshot of seed phrase. I remember very well back then when I was setting up my first wallet ( Trust wallet ) I tried taking a screenshot of the phrase but it didn't work. I got a notification immediately that screenshot are not allowed, that was how I abandoned that attempt. At first I thought they were doing me bad because I wanted to take the screenshot so fast and proceed with the wallet setup, little did I know that they were saving me from potential hack. I reached out to my diary and wrote the phrase down. Three weeks later I lost my phone on my way home, when I was ambushed by a group of boys.

They took everything away from me, the moment they left I hurried home and used my wife phone and imported my wallet and moved the assets there, since the scene of the incident wasn't far from my house. For me I don't like any wallet that will allow someone take a screenshot, I somehow feel that their security is not enough. Just imagine if I was allowed to take that screenshot, my phrase would have been exposed, but that feature prevented me. I don't really know if they still have that feature in trust wallet till date because I don't use it anymore.

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June 25, 2024, 01:08:31 PM
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laziness to write out your seed phrase is the main reason why some people attempt taking screenshots of there seed phrase. I had made several attempts to do the screenshot and it didn't work out, the next thing that came to my mind was to do a screen record while I'm on the position of the seedphase afterwards I could just pause the video and do a screenshot. All these shortcuts contribute to exposing yourself to lots of risk that's everywhere due to how insecure our mobile device are.

Is it possible to do screen recording within the apps where Screenshot feature is disabled? In several occasions, I have encountered same thing not on crypto wallet thou but on banking apps and some other platforms apps that not permit taking of screenshot. I do attempt to take screenshot and when they denied it, I will attempt to do screen recording but at the end the video will record but will play blank without showing what I recorded.

There are wallets that doesn't allow screenshot of seed phrase. I remember very well back then when I was setting up my first wallet ( Trust wallet ) I tried taking a screenshot of the phrase but it didn't work. I got a notification immediately that screenshot are not allowed, that was how I abandoned that attempt. At first I thought they were doing me bad because I wanted to take the screenshot so fast and proceed with the wallet setup, little did I know that they were saving me from potential hack. I reached out to my diary and wrote the phrase down. Three weeks later I lost my phone on my way home, when I was ambushed by a group of boys.

Yeah, there are actually wallets that don't allow taking of screenshot but trust Wallet is not one of them. I don't know whether they have improved now but I remember vividly how they allowed me to take screenshot back then. This feature actually added to our laziness to be serious in securing our wallet very well. As I typed, I still have some screenshot of my past phrases on my phone thou I don't longer use some of these wallet because they have been compromised. It's a practice we should avoid by any means.

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June 25, 2024, 05:45:18 PM
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I don't think most crypto wallets allow their users to take screenshots of their seed phrase. You know why? They expect you to write it down and keep it in a safe place because that's one of the basic knowledge every crypto investor should know first before the start of the journey of a crypto investor.

Learning how to write down your seed phrase on a piece of paper is a good start. At least it will give you the idea that seed is the key to your crypto assets. Losing it means that you have lost your access to crypto assets

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June 25, 2024, 06:14:25 PM
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The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head  flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

I have not come across a wallet that have not giving me that strict warning of been careful of not to expose my seed phrase. It is very important because they will also not want to lose customers to scammers. When there is high rate of stolen funds from such wallets,  they become red flagged and people won’t like to use their wallet to store funds again. They know the effect of it if their users don’t know about taking screenshots of seed phrases and saving in their phones, so it is for their own good because they’ll be the one to be at more loss than the users who would lost funds to scammers.

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June 25, 2024, 06:45:09 PM
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Although this is a nice security addition to wallets, this might not be that helpful especially to those who are lazy or those who don't understand why screenshot protection features are in place. Other than the fact that this could also be disabled or overridden by another application, others might simply take a pic at the seed phrase.
Ultimately, a feature like Disable screen capture will be useless to users who are lazy enough and don't understand what exactly the purpose of the feature is.
Taking photos with other cellphones is the same as not having any protection, even though the anti-screenshot feature was created so that users can write their own wallet seed phrase and store it in the safest place and make them remember even though it is not entirely on the seed text made.




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Learning how to write down your seed phrase on a piece of paper is a good start. At least it will give you the idea that seed is the key to your crypto assets. Losing it means that you have lost your access to crypto assets
Yups, the need to remember the seed by writing, so that you will clearly picture what the first sentence is and still try to remember everything in the brain and save it.
It can be with paper or steel plates that are safe from damage that are now sold by hardware wallet manufacturers.

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This why I use wallet apps that are cautious of the security of their user's assets just like the BITGET wallet am using, when you want to do a back up this is the kind of information you will be seeing below which makes it easier for you to give high priority to your mnemonic phrase




As you can see from the image, taking digital copy of mnemonic phrases in a computer that has internet connectivity and taking of screenshots is marked X which means it is very risky and can lead to losing of one's assets. So the best is just to transcribe it and store in a safe place as you can see it is marked ✓ at the top of the image.
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This why I use wallet apps that are cautious of the security of their user's assets just like the BITGET wallet am using, when you want to do a back up this is the kind of information you will be seeing below which makes it easier for you to give high priority to your mnemonic phrase




As you can see from the image, taking digital copy of mnemonic phrases in a computer that has internet connectivity and taking of screenshots is marked X which means it is very risky and can lead to losing of one's assets. So the best is just to transcribe it and store in a safe place as you can see it is marked ✓ at the top of the image.
Assume that the Bitget wallet gives you and other users that warning, it is a good warning but only this does not make that Bitget wallet to become a good wallet to use.

Bitget wallet is close source and generally you can not expect to get open source wallets built by centralized exchanges.
https://walletscrutiny.com/?platform=allPlatforms&page=0&query-string=bitget

In cryptocurrency you need to focus on non custodial wallet and open source.
https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

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June 28, 2024, 03:02:40 AM
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The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head  flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.
There are some wallets where you can't screenshot the wallet's seed phrase if you want. I can mention Trust Wallet as one of them. To keep this wallet safe and secure, no user can save the seed phrase of this wallet as a screenshot. Maybe google drive and have to backup manually. Or you can write it down somewhere in print form.
Make sure the wallet in which you keep your crypto assets i.e. Bitcoins is safe and secure first. If the wallet you are using to store funds cannot save the seed phrase as a screenshot avoid it, write down your seed and store it safely So that no one can access your wallet.

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June 28, 2024, 01:05:04 PM
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There are some wallets where you can't screenshot the wallet's seed phrase if you want. I can mention Trust Wallet as one of them. To keep this wallet safe and secure, no user can save the seed phrase of this wallet as a screenshot.
When I first started out in crypto, you could screenshot your private keys on Trust wallet. New users wouldn’t know but Trust wallet only implemented this feature a few years ago. I don’t like Trust wallet because they are close-source and I believe that is because of their affiliation with Binance which is a centralized exchange.
 

Maybe google drive and have to backup manually. Or you can write it down somewhere in print form.
Don’t give bad advice to newbies. Google drive or email are bad storage methods for your private keys. If you do not want to risk losing coins, do not save your seed phrase online.

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The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head  flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

Unfortunately, Not all wallets have this feature. At least most of them still allow taking screenshots during the wallet-creating process. Some wallets ask for seed phrase verifications, some wallets do not. No matter if the wallet suggest something or not, you will have to be careful with your seed phrases and the private keys.
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Sometimes it's better to be able to find it back easily, even if it implies to store it in devices not fully air gaped and to take few risks to be hacked than to lose all your funds because you've lost your seed or you can't access it anymore. If the amount is rather small and you can afford to lose it, the benefit-risk ratio could be ok. Especially if you need to use it oftentimes.

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The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet
One of risks for your digital device is screenshot your computer screen or mobile screen and get all your activities like account log in information, password and steal it. Same if screenshot is for your wallet seed phrase when you create it and password as well.

This raises one of vital warning when you create your wallet. Create it offline!

Now you can read This malware will take screenshots and steal your passwords and files and drain your cryptocurrency.

By that poor practice, you don't need hackers to infect your device and screenshot your activities but you do it by yourself, store it somewhere on your device, and wait a hacker to access it.

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The intention to make a screenshot or take a digital photo of your wallet's recovery words violates basic security for such important data: never make a digital copy of your recovery words on an online device (keeping it temporarily offline doesn't really help).

Digital pictures on mobile phones or tablets are commonly synced with some picture cloud storage. Those pictures clouds offer in many cases fancy features like automated tagging, content recognition, OCR and whatnot. And don't forget: cloud storage is just someone else's computers.

You likely have no control whatsoever happens with your pictures once they are uploaded to some cloud. Your pictures might even be used to train some generative picture AI. Good luck with confidentiality of your recovery words if you're stupid enough to make digital pictures of them.

Not to mention that other apps on your devices ask or have asked for permission to access pictures on your device. You know what all those apps do with your pictures?

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Most of the wallet I've been using having a prompt messages that keeps my seed in a safe place or avoid saving online which I'm doing to make sure my money is safe at least. If you are kind of person who always clicking links and visiting different website I highly not recommend to save your seed phrase in the internet to prevent possible thiefs if you can afford having a hardware wallet it's more highly recommended than taking screenshot if your seed if you bought one you will receive a paper that you will write your seed and make a copy of it physically and it's up to you where you will store and keep it safe.

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Most of the wallet I've been using having a prompt messages that keeps my seed in a safe place or avoid saving online which I'm doing to make sure my money is safe at least. If you are kind of person who always clicking links and visiting different website I highly not recommend to save your seed phrase in the internet to prevent possible thiefs if you can afford having a hardware wallet it's more highly recommended than taking screenshot if your seed if you bought one you will receive a paper that you will write your seed and make a copy of it physically and it's up to you where you will store and keep it safe.
the final task is to store a copy of the seed phrase in a completely safe place. We know that physical administration also carries a risk of loss. I also physically save the seed phrases that I write. but it is still paper, which can be damaged or burned.
just pray, don't get into trouble. We can only try our best to store it in a place with the least risk. everyone wants to take good care of their assets, no one wants to be in a difficult situation.

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This security precaution that most wallets apply, such as denying access to take screenshots, is an extremely important measure. Even the warnings that appear when creating a new wallet are often ignored by some, who continue to take screenshots of their seed phrases on their phones, which may be unsafe and contain malicious applications with extensive access permissions, allowing them to easily access photo albums and files and steal these highly sensitive screenshots. This could result in the theft of the wallet owner's assets and funds.

It is worth noting that seed phrases should not be saved in this way or sent to any messaging application to store them on af the chats or written down in notes on a phone that is regularly used and connected to the internet by a person for installation applications that may be from unknown sources and browse the sites and the links.

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The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head  flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.
When you try to make a screenshot of a seed phrase, it won’t be allowed because they already know how dangerous it is to keep your seed phrase as a picture on your phone, so it won’t be allowed, but most people don’t know the implication of leaving their seed phrase on their phone, they don’t know they can easily lose everything they have in their wallet if anyone has access to their phone and can check their images. The best thing is don’t save your private key on your mobile phone or anywhere that has an internet connection, your seed phrase should be stored completely offline.

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When you try to make a screenshot of a seed phrase, it won’t be allowed because they already know how dangerous it is to keep your seed phrase as a picture on your phone, so it won’t be allowed, but most people don’t know the implication of leaving their seed phrase on their phone, they don’t know they can easily lose everything they have in their wallet if anyone has access to their phone and can check their images. The best thing is don’t save your private key on your mobile phone or anywhere that has an internet connection, your seed phrase should be stored completely offline.
It is a good preventive solution from developers of wallet software but it is only helpful for people who are careful in practice and don't try to exploit that preventive solution.

Assuming that I am a careless person and when I see the warning of screenshot is not allowed, I break this barrier by using my phone to capture a photo of my computer screen. It's bad practice from my side and destroy the good security solution from the wallet software but they are not responsible for it.

By doing this, I intentionally take risk by myself and store screenshot photo of my wallet seed in my phone is another risky practice. The phone can be lost physically and someone else can have access to images include my wallet seed screenshot. People need to read more, absorb more guides on security and finally change themselves with better and safer practice in security.

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