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July 03, 2024, 04:54:57 AM
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The higher the capital = the higher chance to get more profit but at the same time it is also has higher risk to lose bigger amount of money. There are some other things to consider aside capital such as plan, strategy, timing, and capital efficiency. Without good plan, good strategy, good timing as well as good capital efficiency, our huge capital will be useless or even worse it will only lead us into negative result.

I'm sure there were many failed business in this world although they started with big capital. The reason can be different from one business to other, but I think the most common reason is about failure in managing the capital wisely because of wrong plans and strategies while running the business. So I cant fully agree that the higher capital = the higher the returns, because there is no guarantee of profit in any kind of business. When a risk is involved, we should always aware that there is possibility to lose regardless how much our capital.

Agree with your view, the more capital we have, the more profit we get, because the more capital we spend, the more risk we take, because the amount of capital does not guarantee a lot of profit, but a lot of the profit comes from our methods. manage it.

That's why before we spend a lot of capital on a business, the most important thing is that we must first learn how to manage a business correctly and on target, because it all has to start with knowledge, not just determination, there is an intention that we have to understand and the knowledge, then After that we can increase capital little by little, don't immediately spend a lot of capital at once.

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July 03, 2024, 07:45:10 AM
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Agree with your view, the more capital we have, the more profit we get, because the more capital we spend, the more risk we take, because the amount of capital does not guarantee a lot of profit, but a lot of the profit comes from our methods. manage it.

That's why before we spend a lot of capital on a business, the most important thing is that we must first learn how to manage a business correctly and on target, because it all has to start with knowledge, not just determination, there is an intention that we have to understand and the knowledge, then After that we can increase capital little by little, don't immediately spend a lot of capital at once.
Everything will be worth it, big capital will result in big losses if it fails and conversely you will get big profits if you succeed, that's the law of economics, it can't be denied.

Spending large amounts of capital on an initial business will of course be very dangerous and there is a high probability that you will experience big losses, so you really need to do calculations and calculations before doing anything.
People who invest large amounts of capital have of course calculated it quite well and done everything they can to minimize the risk.

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July 03, 2024, 09:14:38 AM
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Everything will be worth it, big capital will result in big losses if it fails and conversely you will get big profits if you succeed, that's the law of economics, it can't be denied.

Spending large amounts of capital on an initial business will of course be very dangerous and there is a high probability that you will experience big losses, so you really need to do calculations and calculations before doing anything.
People who invest large amounts of capital have of course calculated it quite well and done everything they can to minimize the risk.
Yes that's right. Even though large capital does not necessarily mean big profits, there are many things that must be taken into account and many considerations, especially knowledge. Because if this is not done then there can be big losses, so it could be said that the risk is also big if you use large capital, but on the other hand, if you have the skills then you can get bigger profits.

Likewise with business, to build a business we have to understand first how to look at the market or market share, of course we have to start small with what we have, don't use a lot of capital because we have to do business according to the abilities we have, don't force it too much. Many people in business have large capital but do not consider it carefully and ignore strategy. In the end, the business does not work or goes bankrupt.

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July 04, 2024, 01:07:21 PM
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Yes that's right. Even though large capital does not necessarily mean big profits, there are many things that must be taken into account and many considerations, especially knowledge. Because if this is not done then there can be big losses, so it could be said that the risk is also big if you use large capital, but on the other hand, if you have the skills then you can get bigger profits.

Likewise with business, to build a business we have to understand first how to look at the market or market share, of course we have to start small with what we have, don't use a lot of capital because we have to do business according to the abilities we have, don't force it too much. Many people in business have large capital but do not consider it carefully and ignore strategy. In the end, the business does not work or goes bankrupt.
If they only rely on capital to build a business, of course this will cause them to suffer losses, whether with large or small capital, so it is important that before running a business or investment, it is better to have capital and good skills in the business field that we will run. because without these two things it is very difficult to make a profit from the business you want to run.

Starting with a little capital will certainly not be a problem when you have mastered the skills in the business you are running and we will be able to continue to develop the business with the skills we have mastered well, so whatever capital we use to run the business will be better We also have expertise in the business that we will run.

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July 04, 2024, 03:47:21 PM
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If you want to start a business it is not advisable for you to spend higher capital, but a little capital, so that even if you lost you should be able to bare it, for instance you cannot put all your bitcoin in the business, because you don’t know what the outcome will be, you may gain or you may lose. If you invest in business with little capital and you realize that you are succeeding, then you can go ahead and invest higher capital in the business for you to get higher profit.

Some people believe that the higher the capital the higher the return, and sometimes it doesn’t work that way, the profit does not always depend on the capital invested

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July 04, 2024, 06:49:44 PM
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Indeed, greater money usually results in more profits. Right, it's simply plain economics. But what do those numbers actually mean to you? Are you hunting numbers or something more significant? Instead of obsessing over how much more capital you can accumulate, how about we talk about investing in ourselves? The returns that actually count in life are building character, picking new abilities, and increasing adaptability. And what would you guess? Their value is not subject to market swings. I'm not arguing that money isn't vital. It is. Money is a tool, a means to an end, not the end itself though. Indeed, increase your cash, but also make investments in yourself throughout. That's the real wealth, man

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July 04, 2024, 07:17:41 PM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

Capital and returns should always be considered.  If one wants a good investment then one should focus on the risk ratio.  Anything that gives more returns with the same amount of invest and the same risk factor is a better investment venture.

                                             
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

Why not look for better profit?  If the opportunity of getting more profit with less risk presents itself then why not grab it?  Having to find an investment that can yield 10x to 20x with the same risk factor is always better than an investment that yields 2x.  The implication is, better to do deep research on every investment we came across that catches our interest.  Don't invest on a whim, better study which one of the investment gives better return with less risk ratio.  And it is already given in all investments that the bigger the capital, the bigger the expected return.  We don't have to chase it since it is already presented on the table.


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July 04, 2024, 10:32:37 PM
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Agree with your view, the more capital we have, the more profit we get, because the more capital we spend, the more risk we take, because the amount of capital does not guarantee a lot of profit, but a lot of the profit comes from our methods. manage it.

That's why before we spend a lot of capital on a business, the most important thing is that we must first learn how to manage a business correctly and on target, because it all has to start with knowledge, not just determination, there is an intention that we have to understand and the knowledge, then After that we can increase capital little by little, don't immediately spend a lot of capital at once.
Everything will be worth it, big capital will result in big losses if it fails and conversely you will get big profits if you succeed, that's the law of economics, it can't be denied.

Spending large amounts of capital on an initial business will of course be very dangerous and there is a high probability that you will experience big losses, so you really need to do calculations and calculations before doing anything.
People who invest large amounts of capital have of course calculated it quite well and done everything they can to minimize the risk.
Exactly. People who spend huge amount for their capital has analyzed it well before risking a lot of their funds, otherwise everything will end up into losses that will lead to regrets and frustrations. And for certain reason, those who have risk a lot have also prepared much of their working strategies and action plans so that the chances to gain profits is higher than to see them losing in the end.

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July 04, 2024, 10:41:33 PM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

                                                       REMEMBER
                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
                                                         5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
This is a big reason why you have to work as smart as possible to make money so that you get capital because after all those who have large capital will get bigger profits from the investments they make, including investing in Bitcoin.
just focus on what you are doing right now, work well so that your income increases every year, from here you will get capital and accumulate it continuously, remember the price of bitcoin will continue to increase, there is no reason to be lazy.

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July 05, 2024, 04:17:48 AM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

                                                       REMEMBER
                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
                                                         5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
The higher the capital, the higher the return. One person invests $1000 and another person invests $100 and both buy either coin in the same market condition. After buying in the same condition, the market is dumping a bit, the person who invested $100 temporarily lost $20, on the other hand, the person who invested $1000 will lose about $200. Profit is calculated in the same way. Therefore, before investing with a large amount of money, every investor should think about these two things and then decide to invest.

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July 05, 2024, 05:48:58 AM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

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                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
It is true that the more capital you have, the more profit you have, but it should also be remembered that the more capital you use in an investment, the more money you will lose if the investment is damaged.
Investments are not only profitable but can also incur losses. So invest as much as you can afford to lose. Every investor should focus on investing by accepting both profit and loss. But those who invest only with the hope of profit are wrong because at any time the price of their invested coins can be dumped.


According to the example you gave,
A 50% loss on $1000 would be a $500 loss.
A 5% loss on $100,000 would be a $5000 loss.

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I agree with your point of view because my thinking is also like you. Very rich people always prefer property because property is safe and they can occupy it and they can get fare from tanent in case of they gave their house to get rent. I also like rental properties and I helped my friend in buying the rental and he got 100 percent money from that in 10 years and now that asset has double to triple rate of the price at which he buy that property. Many big owners buy and sell markets sand shops and that is very difficult for us to invest in because we are middle class people that depends on salary. We get monthly salary from the frum and after that Government get 5 percent commission on the salary and then we pay gas and electricity bills and we are entrapped in that procedure.

Regarding real estate and if we evaluate fairly, it is the best investment, not bitcoin as many people are saying. Not only is it safer than bitcoin but it also gives returns over time and we can also generate passive income from it as there is always a demand for it. Some people criticize real estate and choose bitcoin, simply because investing in it requires a huge amount of capital and not everyone can afford it. And like I said, we chose bitcoin because we wanted to get rich from a small capital, and only bitcoin's volatility could help us do that. But if we were rich, I guess most of us would also choose real estate over bitcoin because when we are rich, what we prioritize will be safety, not big profits.
That is why today's rich people still prioritize investing in assets like real estate and gold rather than bitcoin, and they are still richer than us even though the profit we get from bitcoin is not small.

This is a survey conducted in 2023 and the results show that the rich still focus largely on real estate and housing, while cryptocurrency only accounts for 2%. We can see that reality is very different from what we thought.
 
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July 05, 2024, 09:57:12 AM
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It's true that the higher you invest the higher your profit will be. The fact is that if you have much capital you will get good return but you may loose higher if you don’t  tricky on your investment. I think he who have enough capital but you will need to proper plan to invest then you may be succeed. If we have enough confidence and strategy you may go with big fund.

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Indeed, greater money usually results in more profits. Right, it's simply plain economics. But what do those numbers actually mean to you? Are you hunting numbers or something more significant? Instead of obsessing over how much more capital you can accumulate, how about we talk about investing in ourselves? The returns that actually count in life are building character, picking new abilities, and increasing adaptability. And what would you guess? Their value is not subject to market swings. I'm not arguing that money isn't vital. It is. Money is a tool, a means to an end, not the end itself though. Indeed, increase your cash, but also make investments in yourself throughout. That's the real wealth, man


A buddy of mine usually argues that you need a lot of money to start a business so that you can get a good return and another thing is that their is no assurance that if you spend money you willget a big return. This is a principle that has been around for a long time. To invest in lucrative companies such as the stock market and real estate, you must first invest a large sum of money in order to recover a large portion of your initial investment. Another type of investment is personal investment. The way you address people and engage with them reflects well on your business.

People are more concerned with increasing their fortune than with developing their character, so when they achieve wealth, their character plummets. As we invest in business we should also invest in character and personal development as the first contact people have with your business is you. People need to start working on their initiatives also that is also part of money so if you actually work on that you can even start up something without money it just depends on how you use your head.

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Agree with your view, the more capital we have, the more profit we get, because the more capital we spend, the more risk we take, because the amount of capital does not guarantee a lot of profit, but a lot of the profit comes from our methods. manage it.

That's why before we spend a lot of capital on a business, the most important thing is that we must first learn how to manage a business correctly and on target, because it all has to start with knowledge, not just determination, there is an intention that we have to understand and the knowledge, then After that we can increase capital little by little, don't immediately spend a lot of capital at once.
Even though with a lot of capital there will be a lot of profits, you also have to pay attention to the risks, because of course the higher the capital spent, the greater the risks there will be. Even though occasionally we need to take risks, that doesn't mean there is no consideration, when we have to take risks we still have to be able to consider everything well, including the risks. We must be able to think about the risks that will occur with the decisions we make, lest the decisions we make are not considered so that we can harm ourselves. Many people who fail in business usually do not consider the risks that will occur because they tend to think more about the profit side.

We must be able to manage everything very well, such as finance which of course is an important thing to pay attention to. When we spend large amounts of capital, it is not wrong as long as we have a good understanding and have thought about the risks so that we can overcome the risks that occur later even though we Of course we don't want that to happen but the risk or failure will still be there and in fact it can be minimized or avoided by doing it ourselves well and carefully.

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July 06, 2024, 06:36:37 PM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

                                                       REMEMBER
                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
                                                         5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
How can you chase more capital when you don't have capital and the whole purpose of your investment is to get a huge profit margin to increase the capital? That's the issue here. What you say only applies to rich people and they are smart enough to prioritize low risk - low reward returns instead of chasing bigger returns.

You need to overtake inflation in your country, I'm not sure which country you live, but in my country the inflation rate stated by central banks is 6%, but the reality the inflation rate is around 10%-15%.
If inflation is so high in your country, try to save money in USD, Euro or GBP. Bitcoin is definitely the best option but if you want to keep some cash, don't keep local currency.

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July 06, 2024, 07:08:16 PM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

                                                       REMEMBER
                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
                                                         5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
So what happens to people that doesn't have enough capital base are you saying they shouldn't set up a business? If I see a business opportunity that's offering more percentage with less capital I will go for that one that's offering higher percentage with less capital. Remember if you borrow the large capital from bank you are still going to pay the interest rate and the bigger the funds you borrow the more interest you will pay. So the profit you make from the bigger capital won't be totally yours since you have to pay back your creditors.

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Today at 06:22:55 AM
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It's true that the higher you invest the higher your profit will be. The fact is that if you have much capital you will get good return but you may loose higher if you don’t  tricky on your investment. I think he who have enough capital but you will need to proper plan to invest then you may be succeed. If we have enough confidence and strategy you may go with big fund.
As a basis for initial consideration to carry out investment, anyone needs knowledge to recognize the potential coins you want to invest. Capital is really needed to live it and the greater the capital used, the greater the benefits that will be obtained. But all of that can be achieved when someone understands the right way in running investment and has a long -term planning about the targets to be achieved in one of the investments being lived.

Bitcoin is the right choice for anyone but it is needed capital to invest in it. Because the discussion is more to the profit, capital becomes the first thing that needs to be prepared. Except talking about investment using small capital and must be utilized for the long term. Bitcoin will be the best investment and depends on someone how to use it even though the capital owned is small.

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Today at 04:53:17 PM
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Everything will be worth it, big capital will result in big losses if it fails and conversely you will get big profits if you succeed, that's the law of economics, it can't be denied.

Spending large amounts of capital on an initial business will of course be very dangerous and there is a high probability that you will experience big losses, so you really need to do calculations and calculations before doing anything.
People who invest large amounts of capital have of course calculated it quite well and done everything they can to minimize the risk.
Exactly. People who spend huge amount for their capital has analyzed it well before risking a lot of their funds, otherwise everything will end up into losses that will lead to regrets and frustrations. And for certain reason, those who have risk a lot have also prepared much of their working strategies and action plans so that the chances to gain profits is higher than to see them losing in the end.
There is something they are risking here, but it can work if they can execute it well and neatly. Of course, everything must be done with good analysis and calculations, because otherwise it will result in huge losses. We can see rich people who really have fashion in the business world, for example, they will not hesitate to spend fantastic amounts of money, as long as the business they run has been properly analyzed and calculated carefully too.
If they operate in a field that will be closely related to consumers, for example, they will determine from the start who will be their marketing target, whether it is the upper class, middle class or others. So they prepare the plan as well as possible so that their business can really hit the target.

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Today at 07:21:18 PM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

                                                       REMEMBER
                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
                                                         5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

There is no disagreement with your statement but apparently not everyone have the privilege to have such headstart with higher capital so atleast they start doing at what percentage should be appreciated. And there is other thing the basic rule is how long you can hold an asset in traditional even a decade is not that long but in crypto it's almost the age is it's existing so that's the biggest advantage for crypto investors they get ROI sooner than traditional investment.

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