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July 18, 2024, 03:06:12 PM
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However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.
Regardless of whether it is fair or not, in the end, things like this must always be maintained because after all, when things like this are changed by wanting equality in terms of wealth and wealth, for example it will also disrupt the electability of life so that no matter how fair or not between the rich and the poor, it must still continue because it is a wheel that cannot be lost.

With this condition, it will actually create a new thing where the life lived becomes not monotonous and makes this a condition where there is competition, especially when the poor who are trying to catch up with the rich and the rich who maintain their power.
We are set up for something like that, because it would not be funny if the justice system was seen only because of equality in wealth, if that happened then who would work as an employee because everyone would want to be the boss. So whether it's fair or not all depends on the portion for this kind of thing.

It's a mistake to think the existing economic division is okay since it makes things more competitive. This economic wheel is broken, centuries-old, and fixed. Our wheel must be replaced, not expanded. Money given to the poor should be considered as an investment, not a gift. Everyone should have an opportunity to succeed. The system works best when everyone has a chance

Why keep a few in charge? This is insane old rubbish. It's about making a difference, not fortune. Healthcare, education, and technology deserve our money. Being an employee or boss shouldn't depend on your salary. It should matter what you contribute

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July 18, 2024, 03:26:15 PM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital.
But the opposite effect also works here: the more capital you operate, the greater the losses in case of an unsuccessful outcome. That is, risks with higher “stakes”.

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Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
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July 18, 2024, 05:36:42 PM
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Then this will go back to what the profit target is in its representation, is the percentage or the amount of money you want to get.
I strongly agree with it that we are not looking for a hundred-fold multiplier to get a very large multiplication of money if the capital is large, we will get a large profit if our capital is also large even if the percentage increase is small and that's how it works very well in investing rather than focusing on a high percentage increase.
The basic mathematical formula for calculating profit and loss has not changed. People who have studied accounting can understand it well, although we do not deny that there are other ways to find the multiplication between large capital and the desired profit.
20% profit from large capital is not small compared to 50% profit from small capital.
Economists are very smart in calculating everything related to opportunities and risks, challenges and threats that will occur in the activities they will carry out.

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July 18, 2024, 06:09:16 PM
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The hardest thing about wealth is not to earn it for the first time, but to save it. And this task requires a person to be flexible and keep up with the times. Conservatism will lead to decline, because it does not allow you to see new, more profitable opportunities. If a person managed to earn a fortune 30 years ago, but now does not turn to new investment opportunities, then after some time he will simply lose it, because what worked 30 years ago is no longer effective today. This is why I do not believe in the conservatism of rich people (if they remain rich, and have not lost their capital). Conservative people remain where they started, without moving forward.
I agree with that, but getting it is not easy, it requires persistence and hard work as well as a strong determination so that you don't complain easily and then give up. Apart from that, saving it is another challenge and not everyone can do this well, there are people who are not smart in this matter so they experience financial problems. If we keep up with the times, I think it will follow naturally. Even if they politely refuse, I think there will be a strong urge for them to follow developments as time goes by.

When they have an income and are successful, I think there is a definite possibility that they will think about how to manage their finances better, even though there are people who cannot manage their finances well, of course every once in a while they have thoughts about managing their finances better, this must be taken into account because It is indeed impossible for the wealth that has been obtained to last long unless the person was born into a royal family.

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July 18, 2024, 06:17:03 PM
 #145

Then this will go back to what the profit target is in its representation, is the percentage or the amount of money you want to get.
I strongly agree with it that we are not looking for a hundred-fold multiplier to get a very large multiplication of money if the capital is large, we will get a large profit if our capital is also large even if the percentage increase is small and that's how it works very well in investing rather than focusing on a high percentage increase.
The basic mathematical formula for calculating profit and loss has not changed. People who have studied accounting can understand it well, although we do not deny that there are other ways to find the multiplication between large capital and the desired profit.
20% profit from large capital is not small compared to 50% profit from small capital.
Economists are very smart in calculating everything related to opportunities and risks, challenges and threats that will occur in the activities they will carry out.
I agree with that, because if we talk about capital gain it will really work, and as well as the same staking, 7% as far as I know with a very large amount of money will also get a big reward.

 When talking about calculations, in my opinion, it is quite logical and there is no problem, but what is a fear is when a person who does not understand his own finances and investor fundamentals, I do not violate what is rounded up in the percentage calculation.

The fear is that it is consumed by early investors who don't even understand risk you reward management in the first step, they focus on increasing the amount of money to be invested but they don't understand that the risk looms over them as well as the profit they want to get.

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July 19, 2024, 07:33:17 AM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

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                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
                                                         5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
                                                          THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
When chasing more capital it’s still the same thing as chasing more returns because the aim of every investment is to make profits and one will go to any extent and use any means possible to increase their profits and the easiest way is by putting in more capital. More capital means higher risk because there is no 100% guarantee in what you doing and failure will amount to losing your capital.

It’s just basic principle where the more money invested the more profit to be made when the investment goes as expected and vise versa when the investment doesn’t go as planned (the more money to lost) so one cannot be reckless with the amount to be invested, money invested should be within the range of money you can afford to lose. When you invest more than you can afford to lose the fear of losing that money may affect your investment plan when things doesn’t go as planned and you will end up making certain decisions due to fear.

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July 19, 2024, 09:22:11 AM
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The basic mathematical formula for calculating profit and loss has not changed. People who have studied accounting can understand it well, although we do not deny that there are other ways to find the multiplication between large capital and the desired profit.
20% profit from large capital is not small compared to 50% profit from small capital.
Economists are very smart in calculating everything related to opportunities and risks, challenges and threats that will occur in the activities they will carry out.

It seems that you are someone who has begun to understand about business and also speculating on profits through the amount of capital that is usually used in anything, including trade and large-scale business. I quite understand what you are saying because the comparison is quite clear and I have even encountered several business people in my own environment who have different amounts of capital. However, there is an important thing that I have learned from them during their short conversation, and that is about taking advantage of moments that are happening in a short time and in a relatively long time.

Because they say that not everyone can take advantage of good moments to reap profits in a short time or for a long time. But for those who have large capital, this can almost always be utilized without disrupting their previous plans. So I started to assume that every one of us who wants to be a successful businessman and get more profits must have broader knowledge and must have skills in reading the moment. And finally, there is sufficient capital to be used for this step without having to change previous plans.

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July 19, 2024, 09:48:10 AM
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From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital.
But the opposite effect also works here: the more capital you operate, the greater the losses in case of an unsuccessful outcome. That is, risks with higher “stakes”.

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                                                       50% profit on $1000 is $500
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Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.
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                                                      Investing in bitcoin $1000.  profit on x2-x3  is $2000-$3000
                                                      Investing in altcoin (not all altcoins, but only some) $1000. profit on x5-x10 is $5000-$10,000 (but you are more likely to get a different result - x0)

In the case of cryptocurrencies, this works a little differently.
Or simply speaking about the possible gains that you could really be able to get in dealing in between Bitcoin in compared into those low caps or altcoins which those prices are still cheap or undervalued.
This is one of the main reasons on why tons of people are really that considering on taking up such step on investing into altcoins because of that profitability possibilities on which we know that this could
really be something that will really be giving out that chance on making some nasty profits. Speaking about on the capital that you would be needing then of course not all people or investors would really be having that huge amount into their pockets on which there would really be those main differences in between to those who are really that having big or small capital.

It would really be that understandable on who do have that advantage specially to those who do have bigger capitals on which probability of gains could be high on a small volatility of the price or simply
with the percentage but come to think that when it comes to probability of losing then it would really be also bigger. This is something that you should really be that considering on such aspect.
So it would really be just that depending on how someone would really be making themselves handle out such risks.

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July 19, 2024, 11:12:45 AM
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We won't go and say about guaranteed profits but it's safer to say that there's lesser and low risk that they'll choose and that's how many of them assess risks that they're taking.

Actually, I think they have both low-risk and high-risk projects in their portfolios. They know that each of these options can be interesting and profitable, so it is better to have both, rather than choosing one over the other, reducing your chances of profit in that case. But of course risk management works in each of these cases.
You're right but it depends and I think that most of them are conservative. While they've got funds that come from other investments as well, they want to protect it more and stay with the typical approach that they have that the safer route is better than taking bigger risks. But it's true, we don't know what kind of how big that risk they take for other projects that they have on their ports. Maybe that big for us is low for them because of how much they have and how they are used to these risks that has become part of their lives.

The hardest thing about wealth is not to earn it for the first time, but to save it. And this task requires a person to be flexible and keep up with the times. Conservatism will lead to decline, because it does not allow you to see new, more profitable opportunities. If a person managed to earn a fortune 30 years ago, but now does not turn to new investment opportunities, then after some time he will simply lose it, because what worked 30 years ago is no longer effective today. This is why I do not believe in the conservatism of rich people (if they remain rich, and have not lost their capital). Conservative people remain where they started, without moving forward.
You are truly a businessperson. Perhaps you must have had one or two investments apart from Bitcoin that you are doing. You're right here! Time flies and everything that exists and works now may not work or be as productive in the future as it is now. There is an ability to acquire wealth and there is another ability to recycle it to generate more wealth for us. I think this is the difference between the prominent wealthy people and the newly wealthy people. They can easily turn one day profits into another business or investment, and it continues like that   as long as they live. The reason is not because they are millionaires or billionaires it is because they have the mindset of a billionaire and millionaire. They can generate wealth but do not consume it.

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July 19, 2024, 12:57:14 PM
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in business it is always like that and indeed the bigger the capital, the bigger the profits will be and indeed I also often see people who are successful in business always spending large amounts of capital and indeed with large capital we will see large profits that can be obtained. But of course, in my opinion, the greater the capital spent, the greater the loss. So of course in this case knowledge, know-how and experience also need to be taken into account because of course in any business, before spending large capital, of course you have to be prepared for risks and everything, but of course in this case everyone has different opinions.

 Investing in BTC means the profits are greater for those who have large capital and of course buy BTC in large amounts because those who have small capital of course the profits will not be large. But of course, if invest in BTC, only money are ready to lose is worth using to buy BTC because of course investing in BTC contains risks.

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If you make a wrong choice as intended, the statement that the higher the capital, the higher the profits, will not apply, both in crypto activities and in other types of activities.
If the sentence applies to this type of crypto activity, then the designation of Bitcoin is appropriate to interpret the sentence. The calculation of the percentage of 50% profit from $1000 is that $500 will be earned even though the Bitcoin market fluctuates, it could be more than $500.
As long as it can be managed well, I think high capital for something that already has value can bring higher profits, but on the one hand we also have to involve a level of risk that we have to bear when market and environmental conditions start to change for the worse. But for Bitcoin, of course it would be better if we put in a larger amount of capital with a fairly established time target in order to be able to generate one hundred percent profit through it.
Small or big capital, both needs a proper management so that we can minimize our losses and enhance our earning capabilities. It's just that we are extra careful if we are using a bigger one. There is no need to explain that. If the asset is high in value already, the chance for it to increase is now slim than compared to those assets that value is still small. Their future is still more brighter in case more people adopted them.

Using big capital automatically gives you a big risk as well and it doesn't matter what the market conditions are, and market will always be the same anyway the way they used to be. BTC may be established already but it's always better to be on the safer side as we still don't know what the future can bring to us or to the coin.

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I agree with that, because if we talk about capital gain it will really work, and as well as the same staking, 7% as far as I know with a very large amount of money will also get a big reward.
That's why it must be relevant with a reasonable calculation of the choice. For example, choosing Bitcoin, even though the price can change at any time beyond predictions, incorporating the calculation concept as meant by the OP can make sense if the calculation of the profit percentage is greater if you set large capital for a certain period of time. If, for example, today the price starts to decline, then in a matter of days the price movement increases by up to 4%, the profits will be large compared to people who set small capital when buying Bitcoin.

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It is true that you should not only have money but an idea on what to do with the money you have, if you have no idea then you are not going to get anything good out of that money. I personally believe that the best way to continue with this would be getting some financial education, because if you have some then you would have a good result in the end.

I believe that we could all just focus on how to make it work, make that money work for you instead of you working for it, if we can do that then we are going to be fine. Most of the time this happens when you have some good capital, because small capital can work and make even smaller which doesn't worth it, but bigger capital could work and make you a living wage instead.

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It is true that you should not only have money but an idea on what to do with the money you have, if you have no idea then you are not going to get anything good out of that money. I personally believe that the best way to continue with this would be getting some financial education, because if you have some then you would have a good result in the end.

I believe that we could all just focus on how to make it work, make that money work for you instead of you working for it, if we can do that then we are going to be fine. Most of the time this happens when you have some good capital, because small capital can work and make even smaller which doesn't worth it, but bigger capital could work and make you a living wage instead.
It is true that capital is an important supporting factor for the business we run, for the sustainability of the business. The size of the capital used in the business will of course affect the income earned by the entrepreneur so that the business runs well, sufficient capital is needed, but all of them need to have experience in the business sector without having experience and insight into the business world, it is difficult to set up the business that we hope for, all of these factors are very necessary, even if one factor is lacking, it will affect everything, the more capital we have, the more profits we will get so that the company's growth will increase, In this case, people have different opinions depending on their thoughts.

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So far, yes, I quite agree with this idea, the greater the capital, the greater the profits, or vice versa, but if we focus on the amount of capital we use then actually the percentage of profits is not too large, or what this means is that by following this formula it will It will take quite a long time for you to get a profit of 2x your capital.

But yes, overall I also admit that this is a good idea, especially if we have long-term planning, the benefit of which is that we will avoid the possibility of MC, and apart from that, of course with large capital, your mental and psychological well-being will also be maintained. But on the other hand, of course, large capital must also be accompanied by adequate knowledge regarding the world of investment. Simply put, you need to know the basic things, especially information about the potential of Bitcoin itself.

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It is true that you should not only have money but an idea on what to do with the money you have, if you have no idea then you are not going to get anything good out of that money. I personally believe that the best way to continue with this would be getting some financial education, because if you have some then you would have a good result in the end.

I believe that we could all just focus on how to make it work, make that money work for you instead of you working for it, if we can do that then we are going to be fine. Most of the time this happens when you have some good capital, because small capital can work and make even smaller which doesn't worth it, but bigger capital could work and make you a living wage instead.

Having an opinion determines how money is spent. To have an idea, we need to learn about the business we want to do and listen to the experiences of experienced people. Just because our capital is large does not mean that the income from our work will be large. In order to act in a planned way and avoid wasting capital, the ideas we use should also be valuable.

Returns may vary according to the size of the capital, but the business must be a business that can provide this return. Businesses established without planning and with large amounts of capital may produce very small revenues and expectations may not be met.

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July 21, 2024, 06:19:39 PM
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It is true that you should not only have money but an idea on what to do with the money you have, if you have no idea then you are not going to get anything good out of that money. I personally believe that the best way to continue with this would be getting some financial education, because if you have some then you would have a good result in the end.

I believe that we could all just focus on how to make it work, make that money work for you instead of you working for it, if we can do that then we are going to be fine. Most of the time this happens when you have some good capital, because small capital can work and make even smaller which doesn't worth it, but bigger capital could work and make you a living wage instead.

Having an opinion determines how money is spent. To have an idea, we need to learn about the business we want to do and listen to the experiences of experienced people. Just because our capital is large does not mean that the income from our work will be large. In order to act in a planned way and avoid wasting capital, the ideas we use should also be valuable.

Returns may vary according to the size of the capital, but the business must be a business that can provide this return. Businesses established without planning and with large amounts of capital may produce very small revenues and expectations may not be met.
It cannot be denied that the greater the capital, the greater the profits. However, everyone must also understand that the risks are also very high. I believe that to start a business, everyone must have a comprehensive understanding of the details of the business they are going to do. Let's say we want to start by opening a convenience store. The things we have to study are community needs, level of competition, regional culture, and ease of access to the goods or products we trade. The service model must also be considered so that the business can survive for a long time.

This example may be relevant for starting other business ideas. In simple terms, what we need to know before starting a business is how the flow of money in a place or area rotates. So in my opinion, with large capital we can get large profits, this applies to any business. Meanwhile, courage is needed in starting a business, so that we are ready to face various risks that may occur unexpectedly. Many people have ideas and just keep them without executing them. We know that not everyone has the capital and courage at the same time.

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July 26, 2024, 02:42:02 PM
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Small or big capital, both needs a proper management so that we can minimize our losses and enhance our earning capabilities. It's just that we are extra careful if we are using a bigger one. There is no need to explain that. If the asset is high in value already, the chance for it to increase is now slim than compared to those assets that value is still small. Their future is still more brighter in case more people adopted them.

Using big capital automatically gives you a big risk as well and it doesn't matter what the market conditions are, and market will always be the same anyway the way they used to be. BTC may be established already but it's always better to be on the safer side as we still don't know what the future can bring to us or to the coin.

What you said is actually quite absolute for everyone to understand because the small size of the capital in any case must have the ability to manage it very well so that the business can grow and the capital does not run out immediately before reaping the benefits. And I have also seen the level of risk that people who have large capital get because it is always separated from the level of people who have small capital in any business.

As for Bitcoin itself, I think it can still be used by everyone to achieve profits within a certain period of time if it is used for investment, but if it is only used for short-term trading, it is clear that the profits may not be large enough considering that the price itself is already quite mature even though there is still a possibility for it to continue to increase from the current price.

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in business it is always like that and indeed the bigger the capital, the bigger the profits will be and indeed I also often see people who are successful in business always spending large amounts of capital and indeed with large capital we will see large profits that can be obtained. But of course, in my opinion, the greater the capital spent, the greater the loss. So of course in this case knowledge, know-how and experience also need to be taken into account because of course in any business, before spending large capital, of course you have to be prepared for risks and everything, but of course in this case everyone has different opinions.

 Investing in BTC means the profits are greater for those who have large capital and of course buy BTC in large amounts because those who have small capital of course the profits will not be large. But of course, if invest in BTC, only money are ready to lose is worth using to buy BTC because of course investing in BTC contains risks.
It is true that those who spend large capital will of course be able to get greater profits but it is very impossible to get if someone who has large capital does not have good knowledge about the business being run and this will certainly be very risky if they use large capital and for those who already have good skills about the business, of course they have understood well will be the risks they will face and most likely they have a good plan before running the business so that they will dare to spend a large amount of capital in order to get a big profit.

In terms of investing in Bitcoin, of course, everyone has a different strategy to make a profit, so when they are confident in their abilities and skills and have enough funds to invest, of course they will dare to take the risk to be able to make a profit that is greater than what they have invested.

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July 28, 2024, 06:11:11 PM
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As for Bitcoin itself, I think it can still be used by everyone to achieve profits within a certain period of time if it is used for investment, but if it is only used for short-term trading, it is clear that the profits may not be large enough considering that the price itself is already quite mature even though there is still a possibility for it to continue to increase from the current price.

It really all depends on a trading strategy. If you are a skilled trader, you can make 30% in a month in a short-term trading. I made it myself several times, and I am sure it is possible. Of course, if we compare such trading with a long term investments, then percentage in the first case will be lower. Because regular trading supposes losing as well. However, you can do both, but pick different goals for those options.

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