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July 28, 2024, 08:05:41 PM
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As for Bitcoin itself, I think it can still be used by everyone to achieve profits within a certain period of time if it is used for investment, but if it is only used for short-term trading, it is clear that the profits may not be large enough considering that the price itself is already quite mature even though there is still a possibility for it to continue to increase from the current price.

It really all depends on a trading strategy. If you are a skilled trader, you can make 30% in a month in a short-term trading. I made it myself several times, and I am sure it is possible. Of course, if we compare such trading with a long term investments, then percentage in the first case will be lower. Because regular trading supposes losing as well. However, you can do both, but pick different goals for those options.
Trading is riskier than long-term investments, although some expert traders can get high profits every month, but sometimes they also experience high losses because the crypto market is not always accurate and we know that the market can change movements without us expecting it due to the big influence of every case related to crypto. market. However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.

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July 28, 2024, 09:14:10 PM
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Trading is riskier than long-term investments, although some expert traders can get high profits every month, but sometimes they also experience high losses because the crypto market is not always accurate and we know that the market can change movements without us expecting it due to the big influence of every case related to crypto. market.
High risk, high return. That has always been the terms to the word of investing you. I for one don’t really consider any trader to be way too experienced not to endure some losses in terms of trading. However, it pays to have a high capital while trading. I’ll give you a scenario of a trade that got me burnt even with the analysis haven’t been properly done.

Okay, I was on this thread, probably entered way too early but, all my analysis was in agreement with my entry point. The market was showing to have over bought on my RSI and was about the resistance zone. Eventually, it broke the resistance but, that was a false breaking, I was well aware of that and as such, I didn’t close my position. Eventually, the market closed me out and steeply headed in the direction of my analysis and started selling.

I don’t re-enter because, I had to go through the process of funding and that wasn’t what I was willing to do in that time.

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July 29, 2024, 02:40:13 PM
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Trading is riskier than long-term investments, although some expert traders can get high profits every month, but sometimes they also experience high losses because the crypto market is not always accurate and we know that the market can change movements without us expecting it due to the big influence of every case related to crypto. market. However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.
if you think about it, everything certainly has a risk side, and it can probably be minimized or even avoided depending on what we ourselves are like, if we have good knowledge, maybe the risk can be avoided. Things that involve money certainly have risks such as trading which certainly has the risk of making the money we have can be lost, because it is true what you said with market movements that can change at any time and this is one of the problems that must be considered. even though the knowledge you have is good, it does not guarantee that we can always get profit.

balancing everything needs to be done to avoid big losses. even though it is true that the higher the capital and the higher the profit, I think it does not mean that this risk side is gone, of course there is still a risk side that will occur, we just need to do it well and carefully, don't take the wrong steps that can make us experience big losses. so don't just think about the benefits, but the risks must also be considered carefully so as not to make us stressed when we experience losses.

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August 01, 2024, 09:15:07 PM
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It really all depends on a trading strategy. If you are a skilled trader, you can make 30% in a month in a short-term trading. I made it myself several times, and I am sure it is possible. Of course, if we compare such trading with a long term investments, then percentage in the first case will be lower. Because regular trading supposes losing as well. However, you can do both, but pick different goals for those options.
Sometimes I also think like that because if someone can do both with different goals it will also be quite good because considering the percentage of profit that can be obtained in the short term and also the level of profit in the long term after spending more time on one or several crypto assets that he has believed in for a long time. And actually I myself do more long-term trading than short-term trading which makes me have to keep watching and controlling it every time there is a change in the market trend side.

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August 01, 2024, 09:48:26 PM
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For the theory that the greater the capital, the greater the profit in the world of investment, I strongly agree with that, because investment is a multiplication of money that is done in the long term, so if we have a small capital what we get must be small from the investment made.

Likewise with the risk, we should not only look at the profit side but also look at the risk of loss as well, some presentations need to get a risk tolerance that can be accounted for in an investment so as not to get into a big pit of death.
Maybe some people will get faster profits in investment because of using leverage in their investment, but it can also make a threat in trading if we do not know the market situation that may occur.

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August 01, 2024, 09:50:30 PM
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Trading is riskier than long-term investments, although some expert traders can get high profits every month, but sometimes they also experience high losses because the crypto market is not always accurate and we know that the market can change movements without us expecting it due to the big influence of every case related to crypto. market. However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.
if you think about it, everything certainly has a risk side, and it can probably be minimized or even avoided depending on what we ourselves are like, if we have good knowledge, maybe the risk can be avoided. Things that involve money certainly have risks such as trading which certainly has the risk of making the money we have can be lost, because it is true what you said with market movements that can change at any time and this is one of the problems that must be considered. even though the knowledge you have is good, it does not guarantee that we can always get profit.

balancing everything needs to be done to avoid big losses. even though it is true that the higher the capital and the higher the profit, I think it does not mean that this risk side is gone, of course there is still a risk side that will occur, we just need to do it well and carefully, don't take the wrong steps that can make us experience big losses. so don't just think about the benefits, but the risks must also be considered carefully so as not to make us stressed when we experience losses.
On the moment that you would really be deciding on risking even more or higher capital or risk you would be taking then you should really be that get prepared for whatever things that you might be able to encounter on which we know that on the time or moment that you do find yourself having those kind of potential risks taking then loses would really be the same. It would really be that in balance that if you do risks big then rewards could really be also big but bare in mind that returns arent that guaranteed on which it would really be that basing up on different factors as we do all know. Neither you are really that getting involved with investment, doing trading, doing business or any forms of possible ventures that could bring out profits but somehow excludes gambling on this lists because its never been considered to be an ideal thing.

If you are someone who doesnt really like to take up such risks then you could always opt to make some small capital that you would really be putting up but of course you cant really expect something
big in terms of returns on which its really just that the basic concept or stuff. On the moment that you are already that confident that you could really do it well then this is the time that you would
be considering on increasing up gradually in terms of capital.

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August 02, 2024, 10:09:09 AM
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On the moment that you would really be deciding on risking even more or higher capital or risk you would be taking then you should really be that get prepared for whatever things that you might be able to encounter on which we know that on the time or moment that you do find yourself having those kind of potential risks taking then loses would really be the same. It would really be that in balance that if you do risks big then rewards could really be also big but bare in mind that returns arent that guaranteed on which it would really be that basing up on different factors as we do all know. Neither you are really that getting involved with investment, doing trading, doing business or any forms of possible ventures that could bring out profits but somehow excludes gambling on this lists because its never been considered to be an ideal thing.

This is true for absolutely any amount of capital. We never know the "personal" value of this capital, because for someone $1,000 may be the last money, and for someone else it would be just a drop in the ocean. Therefore, the risk in the first case will be much higher, although in absolute figures this is a fairly small amount that can be risked to make a profit. Everyone has their own strategy and different percentages will be considered "good profit".

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August 03, 2024, 04:31:08 PM
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So, earning 5% is still not enough, in the long run your money will lose the value.

Correcttttttt the inflation nowadays is getting crazy famm like I mean it today's world is unpredictable geopolitic is boiling hot and the market is full with uncertain things and you know what live basically a gamble.

Back to topic The Higher the capital the higher the returns it is indeed very true I mean let's say you can profit 10% a year with 1 million USD in start capital than you make 100K USD a year and that is more than enough in a country like Indonesia. That is why the rich people are getting rich because they have a huge starter modal and 6-10% can made them a fortune

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However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.
I think in this case we should be wiser in choosing and focus more on just one.
It does not mean that we should not trade and invest at the same time but in the end we must believe that if these two things are done at the same time then it will actually make you hassle which in fact makes you lose more because you cannot focus and thoughts are mixed between investing and trading.

Make a choice from the beginning where you want to be, because in my opinion trading and investing are different even though they are in the same scope and I don't feel that doing both activities at the same time will have a good impact but it will be the opposite.  The risk is much greater, your focus which is split is also one of the factors where you can actually lose your money in this case. I prefer to be in Investment and I still believe that investment will be much more worth it compared to trading.

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It is true that when an investor increases the amount of investment, the return on his investment will also be higher. To make profit we must increase our investment. Many investors think that it is possible to earn huge profit with small investment in crypto but in reality it will be difficult at the moment. Earlier if you invest 100 dollars it was possible to get 100 times more profit but that is not possible anymore. Those who still think that they will get 100 times profit by investing 100 dollars are wrong. Nowadays if one wants to be profitable from his investment then he must increase his investment. Profit is never possible without increasing investment.


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Trading is riskier than long-term investments, although some expert traders can get high profits every month, but sometimes they also experience high losses because the crypto market is not always accurate and we know that the market can change movements without us expecting it due to the big influence of every case related to crypto. market. However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.
Losses and profits are 2 things that cannot be separated in trading, we cannot just want to always get a profit, because losses always overshadow. Pasarr cannot be predicted accurately and that is why those who are experts still feel losses, it's just that they can quickly rise because their experiences are very helpful, different from beginners.
But if we can already be able to understand correctly, then we will be able to better do trade. Now the problem is to be able to understand it all how much time we have to spend. Sometimes someone will feel hopeless because they always feel the disadvantages when learning becomes even better. Many of them finally decided to stop and there were those who continued. And sometimes we don't know whether they will be successful or not if they continue. Here requires a strong mentality and also we must ensure that our finances are in good condition even though there are many losses.

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August 04, 2024, 07:07:41 PM
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]I think in this case we should be wiser in choosing and focus more on just one.
It does not mean that we should not trade and invest at the same time but in the end we must believe that if these two things are done at the same time then it will actually make you hassle which in fact makes you lose more because you cannot focus and thoughts are mixed between investing and trading.

Make a choice from the beginning where you want to be, because in my opinion trading and investing are different even though they are in the same scope and I don't feel that doing both activities at the same time will have a good impact but it will be the opposite.  The risk is much greater, your focus which is split is also one of the factors where you can actually lose your money in this case. I prefer to be in Investment and I still believe that investment will be much more worth it compared to trading.


Why? Investing does not require your active participation. Especially if we are talking about long-term. You can calmly trade, having several assets in deep hold. One does not interfere with the other at all. And why should you choose only one thing from the start? People's priorities and opportunities change in life, time becomes available or, on the contrary, limited. Depending on what stage of life a person is at, either trading or investing will suit him better. And it is better to be able to do both.

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However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.
I think in this case we should be wiser in choosing and focus more on just one.
It does not mean that we should not trade and invest at the same time but in the end we must believe that if these two things are done at the same time then it will actually make you hassle which in fact makes you lose more because you cannot focus and thoughts are mixed between investing and trading.
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But really, why not do both? They actually complement each other real nicely.  Trading lets you capitalize on short-term price moves while investing is more about the long play.  but if you only do one, you are missing out on chances to make significant gains. and  Mixing them up helps spread out risk too.  Your wins balance losses.  And the skills you build trading - reading charts and all that - can inform your investing picks.  So why toss aside something so useful? I say take full advantage and trade as well as invest. (If you can to do it.) Nothing wrong with covering all your bases.

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August 04, 2024, 08:52:42 PM
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However, if we have high capital then we can manage long-term trades and investments, manage asset balance to cover losses from other asset losses and generally long-term investment assets produce definite profits without high risk.
I think in this case we should be wiser in choosing and focus more on just one.
It does not mean that we should not trade and invest at the same time but in the end we must believe that if these two things are done at the same time then it will actually make you hassle which in fact makes you lose more because you cannot focus and thoughts are mixed between investing and trading.
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But really, why not do both? They actually complement each other real nicely.  Trading lets you capitalize on short-term price moves while investing is more about the long play.  but if you only do one, you are missing out on chances to make significant gains. and  Mixing them up helps spread out risk too.  Your wins balance losses.  And the skills you build trading - reading charts and all that - can inform your investing picks.  So why toss aside something so useful? I say take full advantage and trade as well as invest. (If you can to do it.) Nothing wrong with covering all your bases.

It doesn't matter if we do both for the reasons you said, but with a note that in the end we have enough resilience, especially in terms of finances. But if in the end we only become someone who seems ordinary and still has economic difficulties then why force to be in both because honestly in my opinion it will only torture yourself.

We will not be able to get optimal results if in the end we just force ourselves like that so instead of making conditions more difficult it will be more comfortable to be in one than to do it in both.
Although people's perspectives may sometimes differ because profit is always one of the reasons but we must realize that when trading and investing at the same time it makes our risk management more uncontrollable.

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