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June 26, 2024, 09:36:52 AM
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to each their own.
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June 26, 2024, 09:49:08 AM
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If we talk about the investment and speculation aspect, the entire financial industry is a financial game, even gold not just bitcoin, where people will find ways to take each other's money, and that is the nature of finance.

So, there is nothing wrong with you considering bitcoin as just a financial game because there are many people doing the same thing, many are just here to make profits and will leave later. But that doesn't mean bitcoin isn't used in many other cases, many countries and companies...have legalized bitcoin and are using it as a payment method and currency like El Salvador for example. Or if you are active on the forum regularly, you can also see many people applying bitcoin to their business, many people consider bitcoin a safe haven asset...many people use bitcoin in their lives more than you think.

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June 26, 2024, 10:06:57 AM
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In the first place, Bitcoin itself isn't volatile. It's the fiat value that is attached to Bitcoin that is volatile. Bitcoin isn't its price.
So the value of Dollar has decreased by thousands of percent in a decade?  It is not Bitcoin being volatile but Fiat?  Every time a ginormous Bitcoin drop happened it was just Fiat gaining back value?  If there is a big Currency out of the two, it is Fiat.  Not Bitcoin.  More over, Bitcoin is changing its price the same way simultaneously for all Fiat pairs including the strongest AND the weakest Currencies it is paired to.  This makes Bitcoin volatile, not Fiat.

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June 26, 2024, 11:32:44 AM
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OP, I don't understand your view saying Bitcoin Volatility is enticing which alters our psychology, No. I believe you speak for yourself. Bitcoiners are not concerned with her Volatility rather the value and price of Bitcoin of which I could say most investor find it difficult to cope without compromising there Bitcoin portfolio, the financial market itself is a game centre where all asset bargained for are games....
I believe you're using "Game" as illustrative situation where Bitcoiners and investors need to understand the rules governing the game (Bitcoin Market) and ensure they win at last and not get defeated because of lack of knowledge, plans, excessive risk, indiscipline,.
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June 26, 2024, 06:26:31 PM
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In playing game you lose whether you have luck or not because it is not possible foe one to win a game at all time. But in bitcoin if are patient enough to wait for the long term investment then you won't lose and instead you win. And all you need to do in the investment of bitcoin is patient. And the risk only comes when you can't wait to see the new bull run or All Time High and sell your coins along the line. The risk is there foe impatient investors and not for the well knowledgeable investors.
I don't like comparing bitcoin investment with game or gambling. Though life itself is a gamble but the context used are different.
We can lose 'sometimes' and win 'sometimes'. That is the one that you should say, but of course, the game must also be fair because there is no way we can win if it isn't. In a BTC HODL'ing game, there must be two types of losses here, and that is one is temporary and the other is permanent. It was only a temporary loss is the one that we can experience if we are patient enough to HODL for the worst times and then wait for the best times to sell our coins.

It's okay if you don't want to compare BTC to a game. We can just let others do it. Maybe this can help them to become more better at it? And also we have this thread here as addition to other BTC topics to talked about with.

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June 26, 2024, 06:44:03 PM
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From what I have learned and understood about the crypto market so far, I have formed a theory that the crypto market is not at all for those who want to get rich overnight or make very quick profits. Cryptocurrencies are not for them at all because the crypto market is always very volatile and now the market is very high and sometimes the market is very low. They will panic and sell their coins or those who buy coins from low enough and can't sell even after the market goes up in the temptation that the market will go up more and make more profit in this way.

They lose all their profit, so the crypto market, especially Bitcoin trading can only be done by people who understand the market very well and have all the information about bitcoin. I see BTC as a long-term investment project. I think that after a few years, the money invested in Bitcoin will give me a profit that no other cryptocurrency, business, or gold can give me. Because the main reason for this is that the investment I made in Bitcoin a few years ago, I am getting so much profit from it that if I had started any other business, I would not have got that much profit.

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June 27, 2024, 02:02:23 AM
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Be mindful: if it's a game, there are rules to follow, risks involved, and winners and losers. Before you engage, research investment strategies, media influence, key influencers, benefits, risks, etc. Take charge of the game; don't let it control you.
Just like any other financial games, Bitcoin doesn't come with an instruction manual stating everything you have to do and when to do in order to be successful with this kind of investment. Therefore, even though you can learn a lot with early and veteran investors, you still have to learn part of the process by yourself, through your own personal experience, which can involve mistakes along the journey.

At same time you have to be in charge of your game, you must be also aware that you aren't that powerful and decisive on this game on the bigger picture. Whales who speculate and manipulate the market are. As consequence, rules plus risks change in real time, based on the actions of those big players. Everyone else are just small fishes trying to take advantage of the whales' movements in the ocean, so they can also make profit side by side, and consider themselves part of the winners' team!

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June 27, 2024, 05:08:47 AM
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Secondly, the price volatility of Bitcoin is highly enticing; it constantly alters our psychology, which is why I refer to Bitcoin as a financial game.
I do understand your point but calling it a game might drive new investors away or even give off the general public the wrong idea.

Bitcoin is not a child's game. It is not a toy or something to play with but there are definitely rules out here that if you are not aware of, you might come out as a loser in the end.
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June 27, 2024, 06:31:21 AM
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and it's finally time to lose for all these investors. Never mind how long they will wait now

It looks like this current Bitcoin dip greatly affected you.  Don't worry Bitcoin has a great ability to recover.  Players of this game won't let the game crash and die since this is the best source of money for them.  Someone will eventually pull the trigger for Bitcoin to start rallying just like the previous bull runs that break ATH and record new highs.

This isn't even the largest dip we've seen recently!

We've seen much worse dips in the last 4 years, like the Luna crash that took BTC form 50k to 30k, the FTX bankruptcy that put BTC at all-time lows, the panic the Feds made after they tried to scare everyone from using crypto, etcetera. And then you have people trying to "get you out of there" because the price is going down, I mean, come on.

In this industry, nobody wants you to win.

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June 27, 2024, 07:25:56 AM
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Okay, Bitcoin is unique and complex, but at its core, it's still money like cash or gold. Its wild price swings are super exciting and constantly mess with our heads. That's why I think of Bitcoin as a financial game—it's always changing, always surprising.

In this concept Bitcoin can be viewed as a game because of it's dynamics and unpredictable price movements, it can be said that it plays a game of uncertainties with our minds. Like analysts that are predicting Bitcoin price to reach $100k in this year, but it is all speculations because we don't know when it will happen, all we can do is hodl and wait without a definite timeframe. Although we cannot compare Bitcoin game to that of gambling where it is luck that determines the outcome, with Bitcoin we know that despite that it is volatile, it's history has shown that it will always reach new ATH price, the only puzzle is when will the ATH happen, and that is where the game is.
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June 27, 2024, 08:10:37 AM
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Secondly, the price volatility of Bitcoin is highly enticing; it constantly alters our psychology, which is why I refer to Bitcoin as a financial game.
I do understand your point but calling it a game might drive new investors away or even give off the general public the wrong idea.

Bitcoin is not a child's game. It is not a toy or something to play with but there are definitely rules out here that if you are not aware of, you might come out as a loser in the end.

He said financial games are not children's games, have you seen any children participating in financial games? I think there is a huge difference when it comes to casual games and financial games, and it is not difficult to distinguish.

Even though what OP said sounds harsh, what he said isn't wrong. Once we engage in investment and it can bring us profit or lose us money, it is called a financial game and bitcoin is no exception.

The idea of ​​creating bitcoin was to be a peer-to-peer currency, Satoshi did not create it with the intention of turning it into an investment. But we turned it into an investment to make a profit from it, so it cannot be denied that it is a financial game.

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June 27, 2024, 09:03:40 AM
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Firstly, despite Bitcoin's distinctiveness and its own complexity compared to other financial forms like fiat currency, gold, etc., its essence remains "money."
Secondly, the price volatility of Bitcoin is highly enticing; it constantly alters our psychology, which is why I refer to Bitcoin as a financial game.

Be mindful: if it's a game, there are rules to follow, risks involved, and winners and losers. Before you engage, research investment strategies, media influence, key influencers, benefits, risks, etc. Take charge of the game; don't let it control you.


Well whatever you call it its fine as long as you don't spread negativity on bitcoin. Also its depends on what bitcoin you think can do for you since if you aim to invest with it then its financial gain since you aim to get profit with bitcoin and that's really fine since lots of people aiming to acquire great profits from their long time investment with bitcoin.

That's why for beginner investors they should not see bitcoin as easy way out of poverty since there's a lot of thing need to learn or consider before they can earn with it. Also it needs long time experience, research and everything you want to consider before you see a best result from this coin. You have good points in your points and people should be mindful or attentive so that there would be no possible flaws we made then possible to earn with currently what we do on our bitcoins.

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June 27, 2024, 09:44:42 AM
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Life itself is a financial game and money is fun coupons. The more assets you collect, the richer you get and when you get rich enough, your assets will work for you and you can do whatever you want with the rest of your life. That’s how you win this game. It is fairly easy to win too. You just need to focus on your goals earlier in your life when you have the time and then get a good job or start a business and keep saving. Bitcoin is just another asset you need to keep an eye on in this game.

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June 27, 2024, 09:45:16 AM
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well, I think, it's okay to think bitcoin about anything. Basically bitcoin was created as an online decentralized payment alternative. However, many people think that bitcoin is an investment tool, and is often compared to gold. In addition, many people think that bitcoin is a gambling tool, or even a scam. However, people will have their own opinions, but what matters is how we use it.


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June 27, 2024, 10:34:14 AM
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Firstly, despite Bitcoin's distinctiveness and its own complexity compared to other financial forms like fiat currency, gold, etc., its essence remains "money."
Secondly, the price volatility of Bitcoin is highly enticing; it constantly alters our psychology, which is why I refer to Bitcoin as a financial game.

Be mindful: if it's a game, there are rules to follow, risks involved, and winners and losers. Before you engage, research investment strategies, media influence, key influencers, benefits, risks, etc. Take charge of the game; don't let it control you.











Yeah it's true to some extent. The biggest thing you can do is that you should practice to control on your nerves.The market is volatile and to survive in these kinds of conditions you should have a very strong control over your decisions and investments.

The plan should be clear and the profit should be set. After achieving the calculated profits you should exit the market no matter what the conditions are. Greed is not good in crypto if you want stable income.

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June 27, 2024, 11:03:20 AM
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This may be considered as true but this cannot be taken in its totality because beyond the just financial benefits of bitcoin of which it helps to mediate transactions, is the fact that it can be seen as a store of value and the volatility  of its value progressively going up keeps it distinct from others and that is why it can be seen as a store of value and an investment opportunity. True its a financial game just like it can be seen in the regular fiat where the bid for the supremacy of a currency over the other keeps nations continue in trying to get economic conditions that will strengthen their currencies so as to make it add more value to become such that is strengthen and considered superior over the other.
The game of finance is such that when considered in the case of bitcoin to other currencies, its something we see the advantage of bitcoin over others in the the fact that its value keeps moving upward and appreciating in a very high percentages unlike the regular fiat that does  little percentages in a very long time.

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June 27, 2024, 12:18:17 PM
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Bitcoin has been so known for its volatility and high risk but despite these things, people still think that investing in bitcoin is profitable and an opportunity that a person should not ignore. Whether it is a financial game or not, what we want is to make money out of it --maybe that measures winning.

Well, I say that a person who wants to become rich and financially stable must acquire more valuable assets not just bitcoin. They could buy bitcoin, bonds, real estate, etc...all these things generate money. But without financial knowledge and the right way of spending our money, nothing will change in our lives and we lose the game. Therefore, we don't just know how to invest in these things but also, we must also know how to invest in learning finances as this is the winning ticket.

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They could buy bitcoin, bonds, real estate, etc..
only latter two generate something.
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Firstly, despite Bitcoin's distinctiveness and its own complexity compared to other financial forms like fiat currency, gold, etc., its essence remains "money."
Secondly, the price volatility of Bitcoin is highly enticing; it constantly alters our psychology, which is why I refer to Bitcoin as a financial game.

Be mindful: if it's a game, there are rules to follow, risks involved, and winners and losers. Before you engage, research investment strategies, media influence, key influencers, benefits, risks, etc. Take charge of the game; don't let it control you.


Bitcoin is not as complex as many may claims or proclaims it to be neither does it seems to be a game nor that risky as when compared to forms just as you have mentioned above, Bitcoin stand among the best if not the best when it comes to digital asset class as it has a good foundation and has proven to have gained a more wider spread adoption and a tremendous increase in value. Bitcoin investment is best when viewed on a long term perspective and every investor must adopt a strategy or strategies that will only suits him or her in terms of his financial capabilities, risk tolerance level, investment goal and objectives, which is the only way he can be able to hold for long without selling too soon when he is meant to be accumulating. Volatility is an inherent trait of Bitcoin where an ideal investors only takes advantage of it without panicking in order to have a good size of Bitcoin up to a reasonable amount by maximizing every opportunities in the market to purchase Bitcoin which will put him in a substantial overall return of investment over a long time of a about possibly 4 to 10 years or more.

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June 27, 2024, 02:46:36 PM
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Firstly, despite Bitcoin's distinctiveness and its own complexity compared to other financial forms like fiat currency, gold, etc., its essence remains "money."
Secondly, the price volatility of Bitcoin is highly enticing; it constantly alters our psychology, which is why I refer to Bitcoin as a financial game.

Be mindful: if it's a game, there are rules to follow, risks involved, and winners and losers. Before you engage, research investment strategies, media influence, key influencers, benefits, risks, etc. Take charge of the game; don't let it control you.

Bitcoin is perhaps more complicated than gold, but it's not more complicated than fiat. Fiat isn't just banknotes. It's also complex monetary policies, evaluation, control over supply and inflation, as well as digital systems of handling fiat payments. Bitcoin is simpler than fiat, and its transactions are more straightforward. Gold is simpler because it's tangible, but we can't know the total supply for sure, and gold can't be transferred digitally. So considering the functions Bitcoin is able to perform, it is simple enough as a currency.

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