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June 26, 2024, 07:29:17 AM
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Artificial intelligence or nuclear weapons which would destroy the world next?...

They are both deadly but one will definitely hit humans hard.
I want to throw this discussion to the house and let's share our own views in regards to this and see or get possible ways that it can be controlled or tackled.and from the looks of things it is very difficult to compare to compare both together, because they have a very high capabilities and potentials risks,that can pose harm to humans.
But I presume there's a way out of this and it depends on the usage of both technologies by man which involves handling such with much care and cautions to avoid any negativity.
So what do you think guys?!!
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June 26, 2024, 05:37:37 PM
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Since real artificial intelligence does not exist yet, I would have to say that Nuclear weapons are more likely to wipe us all off the face of the earth first.  Either way, I think there's a pretty good chance that one of these things is what could do humanity in, I just hope that we can start to realize the true dangers of both, and take better precautions for both so that neither is the end of humanity.  Though it very well may be out of our control.

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June 26, 2024, 05:42:35 PM
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For me, necluer weapon is potassium cyanide and AI is Arsenic. In both cases, the death is certain but for Arsenic, the death will be slow and painful. According to my understanding, AI has all possibilities to become Arsenic to the humanity if not used ethically.

We are already seeing multiple downsides of AI but the poisonous ones are yet to come where it can control the minds of the people by spreading hatred through planned propaganda. Governments need to act fast and bring a framework to limit the limitless harmful possibilities of AI.

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June 26, 2024, 06:36:30 PM
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So what do you think guys?!!

Elon Musk once warned that AI is more dangerous than nuclear warheads and needs to be controlled to avoid its catastrophic effect on humanity. The Tesla and SpaceX boss warned that the development of these superintelligences might get to a stage where its creators might not be able to control them. Some artificial intelligence analysts have called Elon's concern a false alarm and that his doomsday predictions are unnecessary. Elon Musk has invested heavily in Artificial intelligence, so maybe he knows what we don't.

Regarding nuclear warheads, everyone knows that their effect can devastate the earth. Now I am more interested and concerned about the integration or application of artificial intelligence in nuclear weapons. There is a recent discussion in NATO, where member nations are considering restricting the use of AI in nuclear weapons systems.

Should artificial intelligence be banned from nuclear weapons systems

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June 26, 2024, 06:54:36 PM
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Since real artificial intelligence does not exist yet, I would have to say that Nuclear weapons are more likely to wipe us all off the face of the earth first.  Either way, I think there's a pretty good chance that one of these things is what could do humanity in, I just hope that we can start to realize the true dangers of both, and take better precautions for both so that neither is the end of humanity.  Though it very well may be out of our control.
Nuclear weapons can be so dangerous and it has been in existence for a very longtime and it is still well managed by man. Artificial intelligence can't be predicted like what it will be in the future if it is something that will be beyond the control of man but it seems it is possible for Artificial intelligence be what people won't be able control it in the future. Just imagine in the future we have Al that is in charge of the military and handling Nuclear weapons. The kind of Al will may likely get in the future can autonomous in character and this will be a problem to humanity.  

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June 26, 2024, 08:01:57 PM
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They are both going to wipe out a country.
AI though is more chaotic because it will be a slow death for a man and his family especially when men can't find jobs anymore because of AIs. They'd be hungry and would just resort to something terrible like robbing.

Nuclear I guess this is going to be a war between the nuclear countries. If you don't die while you are exposed to radiation, it's still a slow death.

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Artificial intelligence or nuclear weapons which would destroy the world next?...

They are both deadly but one will definitely hit humans hard.
I want to throw this discussion to the house and let's share our own views in regards to this and see or get possible ways that it can be controlled or tackled.and from the looks of things it is very difficult to compare to compare both together, because they have a very high capabilities and potentials risks,that can pose harm to humans.
But I presume there's a way out of this and it depends on the usage of both technologies by man which involves handling such with much care and cautions to avoid any negativity.
So what do you think guys?!!

Assuming that nuclear weapon is what has been projected before since the atomic bomb drop in Japan, it might be the worst and that it could literally destroy the planet in just one push of the button. It might not be portray correct in Hollywood movies, but perhaps it's very close to it as let's say the US President has this luggage that some one carries that has all the nuclear of the US.

The scary part in AI is that it might be designed not to destroy the world but replaced us humans. And with that, we might be alive, but we have to work shoulder to shoulder to some robotics AI and that might not look to us.

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The scary part in AI is that it might be designed not to destroy the world but replaced us humans. And with that, we might be alive, but we have to work shoulder to shoulder to some robotics AI and that might not look to us.
There will always be work for humans in any application of robots and artificial intelligence. I don’t understand at all why some are so afraid of this inevitable process, which, on the contrary, humanity should strive for. In the foreseeable future, a person does not yet foresee a situation in which he will have nothing left to do in this world. Even about ourselves and our planet, we still know very little, and the solar system and even near space is generally an unknown page for us, on which we can spend more than one million years to study and master it at least a little. And it is robots with AI that can help us well with this.
But AI robots must have built-in programs of certain restrictions so that they cannot harm a person and his interests.

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So what do you think guys?!!

Elon Musk once warned that AI is more dangerous than nuclear warheads and needs to be controlled to avoid its catastrophic effect on humanity. The Tesla and SpaceX boss warned that the development of these superintelligences might get to a stage where its creators might not be able to control them. Some artificial intelligence analysts have called Elon's concern a false alarm and that his doomsday predictions are unnecessary. Elon Musk has invested heavily in Artificial intelligence, so maybe he knows what we don't.

Regarding nuclear warheads, everyone knows that their effect can devastate the earth. Now I am more interested and concerned about the integration or application of artificial intelligence in nuclear weapons. There is a recent discussion in NATO, where member nations are considering restricting the use of AI in nuclear weapons systems.

Should artificial intelligence be banned from nuclear weapons systems

This was actually the first thing that comes into mind when you read artificial intelligence and nuclear weapons in the same sentence.

Integrating AIs to weapons of mass destruction is just wrong. These can possibly malfunction at any time and may trigger these weapons to wherever it is pointed at, causing unspeakable destruction and loss of lives when in fact it can be prevented if the old methods are instilled in place. I believe that the discussions started by NATO is relevant, considering that a lot of autonomous weapons nowadays are controlled by AI.

Going back to the topic though, nuclear weapons are a lot more concerning in present times than AI. As of the moment, the AIs we're seeing are only limit to their intended capabilities, kind of like having macros but a rather more sophisticated and advanced version. We're far from actual artificial intelligence, but the different conflicts around the world is very near and is happening on a daily basis, which could spark an all-out war any time soon.
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I want to throw this discussion to the house and let's share our own views in regards to this and see or get possible ways that it can be controlled or tackled.

Both are dangerous but the problem is how to prevent this when we are just ordinary citizens and have no voice before politicians. While politicians are considering them as strategic weapons as well as those who are trying to promote development just for the greed of power.

The negative impact of nuclear weapons on humanity has been warned for hundreds of years, but have you seen any major powers stop researching and developing them? They even secretly create more destructive and dangerous weapons under the pretext of protecting their country.

Personally, I think until human greed stops, there is no way to stop these things.

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Both are dangerous but the problem is how to prevent this when we are just ordinary citizens and have no voice before politicians.
AI is not dangerous but it is only useful. I'm talking about those AI software that we have right now. AI's can also be robots and they can only be dangerous if those AI scenarios in the movies that we see like they will get out of control are going to happen but I think it's less likely and can mostly happen in the movies because they are fictional.

It sounds fictional and an unlikely scenario, but I won't rule it out because AI and robots are becoming so smart that they go beyond our imagination. Until now, AI and robots have not posted any real danger, but they are gradually replacing humans in some fields. That brings some benefits but also causes some painful problems such as labor surplus and increased unemployment and that is also a concern.


but the problem is how to prevent this when we are just ordinary citizens and have no voice before politicians.
There are ordinary citizens but has a special ability, like for example hacking. This is one of the things I can think of that can help prevent them from happening, especially the AI ones since it mainly relies in software or being online. A lot of governments are scared about the hackers because they know what they are capable of, so they can actually listen to them and be like a puppet to them.

If someone is so talented, why hasn't anyone found a way to destroy the entire nuclear systems of the major powers because after all, they are the ones who will destroy our world if they are activated? 

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With how prolific the nuclear arms race was back in Cold War, I'd say that we'd probably see more destruction and extinction when it comes to nuclear weapons. AI isn't going to be that destructive even if it does gets to the border of our reimagining of sci-fi stories of AIs going rogue, unless we become negligent of their sentience, maybe that's what's going to lead us into another scary thing that we won't know much about, as AI development stands now, I think that we're not going to be worried about that Terminator Skynet dystopia anytime soon.

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Both AI & nuclear weapons have the potential to cause significant destruction. The likelihood of one destroying the world over the other is subjective & depends on many things. Nuclear weapons have been developed for decades & have caused immense devastation in the past. AI is a rapidly advancing tech that holds both promise & risks. I suppose AI has the potential to be misused or become uncontrollable it also has the potential to solve complex global challenges. It’s important to ensure responsible development & use of both AI & nuclear weapons to mitigate their risks & safeguard our world.

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(...)So what do you think guys?!!

Or look at this, who will use it to destroy the world, whether it's AI or nuclear, those are all wonderful things we find in this life, those are means of support/harm depends on how we use it in life.

Fear of the danger that a tool can cause in life, but that is just a way to justify mistakes that we ourselves are the ones who decide can happen.

Sometimes I really feel like maybe we are feeling scared about the things that are happening in space, but let's accept them calmly no matter how they happen, if there is curiosity. Somehow, I really find everything simple when people think that the existence of the earth compared to the appearance of humans is just a passing breeze.

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How about we consider both?

I mean AIs using the nuclear weapons to hit humans.

They both are so dangerous to an extent and I think the pose same level of threat but my biggest fear is combining both weapons together then humans might find it hard to beat them out.
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Artificial intelligence or nuclear weapons which would destroy the world next?...

They are both deadly but one will definitely hit humans hard.
I want to throw this discussion to the house and let's share our own views in regards to this and see or get possible ways that it can be controlled or tackled.and from the looks of things it is very difficult to compare to compare both together, because they have a very high capabilities and potentials risks,that can pose harm to humans.
I have not read quite much about the negative impact of artificial intelligence other than its ability to compete with humans in terms of doing most of the works humans should have been doing. Outside of that, artificial intelligence has done more good to the society that the presumed arm and it's nothing compaired to the negative effect that comes with the existence of nuclear weapon. It's literally disheartening to have such a deadly thing as nuclear weapon in as part of the existing war arsenal and then we now talk about the need not to use it in fighting war, isn't that insane. Nuclear weapon isn't supposed to exist in the first place because it has no advantage but possess a threat to extinct humans from the surface of the earth.

But I presume there's a way out of this and it depends on the usage of both technologies by man which involves handling such with much care and cautions to avoid any negativity.
So what do you think guys?!!
regardless of how you regulate nuclear weapon, if for any reason a nation is pushed to the extent where the use of nuclear weapon becomes her only option, we're in for a serious doom.

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Nuclear weapons are more likely to be the cause of the destruction of mankind, in my opinion. Because those are weapons of mass destruction in the hands of politicians, very demagogue people who are never supposed to be close to the nuclear button in the first place.
Artificial intelligence also can pose a risk to humanity, but it would be because someone had the bad idea of giving management over some virology laboratory to some articial intelligence in order to enhance security or to perform research faster.

Still,.regardless whether we talk about Nukes or AI, it does not matter, as both are creations of us and we would be in the end, our own responsibility.

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Both AI & nuclear weapons have the potential to cause significant destruction. The likelihood of one destroying the world over the other is subjective & depends on many things. Nuclear weapons have been developed for decades & have caused immense devastation in the past. AI is a rapidly advancing tech that holds both promise & risks. I suppose AI has the potential to be misused or become uncontrollable it also has the potential to solve complex global challenges. It’s important to ensure responsible development & use of both AI & nuclear weapons to mitigate their risks & safeguard our world.
of the current weapons, nuclear weapons are the most terrifying because the explosive power and radiation they produce can be devastating, these weapons should not have been created because they are very worrying regarding the earth we stand on and that is a real threat at this time, from the development of AI at this time shows significant technological progress in various fields, AI can make human work easier
with that ability, but behind that there is a negative side which can cause a lot of unemployment and that threatens human employment, by creating AI or nuclear weapons by humans it can change the order of life depending on the thoughts of the people which will definitely be used for good things.

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