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July 10, 2024, 08:19:06 AM
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I came across a news flash on the media, it was so heartbreaking however it prompted me to create this topic and I'll like us to have a debate on it here in the forum. A Nigerian busines tycoon and the former CEO of Konga (an online store) took his own life, news have it that he jumped from the roof of his house, after calling his brother in the U.S to inform him of how to distribute his wealth.

 Well, i surfed the net to know his worth and discovered that he's worth about roughly $2.9m. You'll be wondering why a young and wealthy man of about 45 years, would decide to take his own life even after acquiring such wealth, i know many would think he's selfish he didn't consider his family, this and that but that's not the topic of the day, what I think is that one could have billions and several other assets but still find it difficult to have peace of mind.

 If money could guarantee someone peace of mind, then the man in person would've spent half of what he's acquired to find peace but what we was going through was beyond his wealth, and he's a prove that one can have all the billions and still not get peace or happiness. I might be wrong though but what's your opinion?

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Bro, are you talking of peace of mind or happiness? Because what am seeing here, you are trying to make both of them looks as if they are the same, which they are not, happiness and peace of mind are totally different things apart.

Secondly, concerning what you are actually saying, you need to understand that happiness is a choice, regardless of your financial status, you can choose to be happy or sad, and as for peace of mind, that is what wealth and poverty can't gives you.

So stop trying to make it looks as if poverty is better, because we all know that having money makes life easier, and it can enhance the environment that can gives you peace, so my brother,that man than took his own life did that due to his personal problem, which he felt like he just want to end it all, everyday people are commiting suicide nowadays not because of their financial status, but due to depression and some other stuff, so I believe this particular news came to your notice because he is wealthy, or you think it's only the rich that take their own life? So in essence is that, it's more likely for someone to contemplate suicide as a poor man, due to difficulties, than a wealthy person.











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July 10, 2024, 09:14:42 AM
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What’s wealth? Wealth is being financially stable with all the resources including asset, investment etc, money was never meant to guarantee happiness or change life challenges of any human on earth. Money can actually solve problems of different kind but, the problem is money can’t stand as a defense against death or depression. So bad, rich people no longer find happiness due to some certain reason not related to finance but, it’s obvious a lot of poor people need money badly and vow never to take their life despite their poor situation. Humans sometimes get confused after attaining their desired height in essence no human is satisfied enough, it’s best you still work hard to gain wealth not minding the poor or rich quote going around because yours might be different.

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July 10, 2024, 01:19:27 PM
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What’s wealth? Wealth is being financially stable with all the resources including asset, investment etc, money was never meant to guarantee happiness or change life challenges of any human on earth. Money can actually solve problems of different kind but, the problem is money can’t stand as a defense against death or depression. So bad, rich people no longer find happiness due to some certain reason not related to finance but, it’s obvious a lot of poor people need money badly and vow never to take their life despite their poor situation. Humans sometimes get confused after attaining their desired height in essence no human is satisfied enough, it’s best you still work hard to gain wealth not minding the poor or rich quote going around because yours might be different.
I understand the point you are making. Wealth does not guarantee that someone will get eternal happiness, because wealth can only solve life's problems but cannot solve the problem of peace because we can get peace if we understand the true meaning of life. Just look at people who are poor (enough) but happy and peaceful in their lives, this shows that money is not everything, even though money can produce everything, in essence we are good at being grateful for what we get.

Lasting happiness does not always depend on wealth, although money can provide comfort, money is not the only factor. Because true happiness means we have good relationships with family, neighbors, other people, good physical health and individual achievements that we should be grateful for. Without this, everyone will not have peace in life, many people even commit suicide because they do not understand the true meaning of life.

 
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July 10, 2024, 04:51:07 PM
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What’s wealth? Wealth is being financially stable with all the resources including asset, investment etc, money was never meant to guarantee happiness or change life challenges of any human on earth. Money can actually solve problems of different kind but, the problem is money can’t stand as a defense against death or depression. So bad, rich people no longer find happiness due to some certain reason not related to finance but, it’s obvious a lot of poor people need money badly and vow never to take their life despite their poor situation. Humans sometimes get confused after attaining their desired height in essence no human is satisfied enough, it’s best you still work hard to gain wealth not minding the poor or rich quote going around because yours might be different
Wealth is always closely related to money and the more money we have will make us rich. But if calculated wealth always does not have a definite value because one person with another has a difference in the amount of wealth they have. Then how can we conclude that someone has wealth while others are above their wealth. Death and depression are not only seen from people who live hard and have difficulty meeting their needs because there are many rich people who also commit suicide with various problems they face. Of course if wealth was the cause, maybe rich people would not commit suicide and they should be much happier than people who do not have money.

No human being is satisfied with the wealth they have and so on they will try to increase their sources of income to become richer. But at the point of happiness, comfort and peaceful life with family they may not be able to get it. The key is to be grateful and try to live simply so that there are no problems that cause depression or feel lonely.

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July 10, 2024, 08:53:51 PM
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What’s wealth? Wealth is being financially stable with all the resources including asset, investment etc, money was never meant to guarantee happiness or change life challenges of any human on earth. Money can actually solve problems of different kind but, the problem is money can’t stand as a defense against death or depression. So bad, rich people no longer find happiness due to some certain reason not related to finance but, it’s obvious a lot of poor people need money badly and vow never to take their life despite their poor situation. Humans sometimes get confused after attaining their desired height in essence no human is satisfied enough, it’s best you still work hard to gain wealth not minding the poor or rich quote going around because yours might be different
Wealth is always closely related to money and the more money we have will make us rich. But if calculated wealth always does not have a definite value because one person with another has a difference in the amount of wealth they have. Then how can we conclude that someone has wealth while others are above their wealth. Death and depression are not only seen from people who live hard and have difficulty meeting their needs because there are many rich people who also commit suicide with various problems they face. Of course if wealth was the cause, maybe rich people would not commit suicide and they should be much happier than people who do not have money.

No human being is satisfied with the wealth they have and so on they will try to increase their sources of income to become richer. But at the point of happiness, comfort and peaceful life with family they may not be able to get it. The key is to be grateful and try to live simply so that there are no problems that cause depression or feel lonely.
Different people and different financial statuses would really be having that different conditions when it comes to problem on which it's the that there are rich or wealthy people do commit out suicide just not because about finances but rather on emotional aspect on which we do know that there are really people who are really that too weak when it comes into other aspect.Money can't bring out that total happiness but majority or most cases on which. Money will really be that primary concern on trying to accumulate and save up on other things as well on which this is our main priority specially to those who do sit on .

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July 10, 2024, 10:37:22 PM
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Almost all of us agree that wealth is important, but it is not one of the keys to happiness and peace because peace and happiness are our own way of creating it.
Yep. Everyone should agree that wealth is needed. However, having the wealth sometimes doesn't guarantee the happiness. It is because happiness is something a bit complicated, it is not always related to the wealth. Even if someone has limited funds, he can happy if he lives around his lovely people. Meanwhile rich people may be not happy because they have no time to gather with their lovely people. This is one of the examples of happiness that doesn't rely on the wealth.

Material and spiritual have different functions, but both can be interconnected with each other, material has a relationship between wealth that can be used to help each other, while the spiritual dimension can have cultural-like characteristics, especially for the purpose of morality in general.
TBH, I don't really get your point. However, wealth or money has crucial role in our life. If we have no money, it may bring bad impact on our mentality. If we have enough money, it is probably easy to have healthy mentality. But if we have no money, how we may have healthy mentality or healthy mind? This is just a simple relationship between wealth/money and spiritual side.

Money must be used wisely and money can also run out if it is not used for more productive things.
There are many rich people who end up bankrupt and there are many rich people who do not find peace and happiness in life.
Good financial management is needed to use the money wisely. In this way, we know about the priority and non priority. Sometimes it is easy to spend money for useless thing if we don't have good money management. We must know how to allocate the money in a proper way. This will lead us to use money as effective as possible.

By the way, rich or poor people can have no peace in his life if they don't know how to make it. It is applied to anyone, it is not for rich people only!


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July 11, 2024, 03:10:05 AM
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Money doesn't guarantee happiness as we can tell. Those who don't have the money are bittered about why they have no money. If many of us are asked, what will make us complete in life, we will say it is money before we mention any other thing. However, many of us see money as the key thing we ought to achieve in life, whereby everything we do hovers around it. Not forgetting to state that with money, you have the best medication, education, healthcare, enjoyment, house, etc. All these mentioned can give you a life fulfilling happiness than when you are poor, living on someone else care, and expenses to have a happy and fulfilled life
well, there are so many other important things that even if there was money, we wouldn't be happy. There are many parameters regarding happiness. as you said, health, education, family, and many other things that even when we have a lot of money, it cannot guarantee us happiness.
However, one important aspect in supporting a person's happiness is a very good economic situation. With this, we can fulfill all the needs that we or our family have, and this encourages us to be happier. However, money does not guarantee happiness, but one factor that can make us happy is money. Like, if someone gave you $1 million dollars right now, I think someone would be very happy.

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Money doesn't guarantee happiness as we can tell. Those who don't have the money are bittered about why they have no money. If many of us are asked, what will make us complete in life, we will say it is money before we mention any other thing. However, many of us see money as the key thing we ought to achieve in life, whereby everything we do hovers around it. Not forgetting to state that with money, you have the best medication, education, healthcare, enjoyment, house, etc. All these mentioned can give you a life fulfilling happiness than when you are poor, living on someone else care, and expenses to have a happy and fulfilled life
well, there are so many other important things that even if there was money, we wouldn't be happy. There are many parameters regarding happiness. as you said, health, education, family, and many other things that even when we have a lot of money, it cannot guarantee us happiness.
However, one important aspect in supporting a person's happiness is a very good economic situation. With this, we can fulfill all the needs that we or our family have, and this encourages us to be happier. However, money does not guarantee happiness, but one factor that can make us happy is money. Like, if someone gave you $1 million dollars right now, I think someone would be very happy.
Although it does not guarantee happiness as mentioned but money is a major factor in everyday life. I believe that if someone gets large amounts of money then he will definitely be very happy. But on the other hand health is also a very important thing to maintain and also need money. So I don't really believe it fully if money will not guarantee anything in life. I can only think objectively.

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July 11, 2024, 05:03:27 AM
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Nowadays money is imporatant thing every where. It never will be skip. Money not stable to every one. So it will be change anytime. Save the money for your future purpose. Money value is any time to change. Monay is imporat for the finacer process. It help to country people gowth and count finacer details easy to gather.
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July 11, 2024, 05:41:50 AM
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Money does not guarantee happiness, but someone who has money can be happy more easily than someone who does not have money. Someone who couldn't be happy despite having a lot of money probably couldn't be happy without money either...

I think money is a rational commodity. It is calculable and predictable. We can only analyze our experiences with money on a rational plane. If we try to analyze our experiences with money on an irrational plane, we will probably be unhappy even if we are rich...

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July 11, 2024, 08:33:14 AM
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Money does not guarantee happiness, but someone who has money can be happy more easily than someone who does not have money.

I would add that without money it is very likely that you will be not happy most of the time. I'd say, it's not about being happy, but about not being unhappy and even miserable in your everyday life.

Someone who couldn't be happy despite having a lot of money probably couldn't be happy without money either...

People that are unhappy while having a lot of money, just don't know to what extent of unhappiness they would descend having no money at all.

I think money is a rational commodity. It is calculable and predictable. We can only analyze our experiences with money on a rational plane. If we try to analyze our experiences with money on an irrational plane, we will probably be unhappy even if we are rich...

There are a lot of people who are rich and still unhappy, but that doesn't imply that money won't make a poor person happy. It most likely will. So, if you are poor, don't think "Money doesn't guarantee happiness" and do nothing. Work hard and try to make more money.

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July 11, 2024, 11:17:32 AM
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Money does not guarantee happiness, but someone who has money can be happy more easily than someone who does not have money. Someone who couldn't be happy despite having a lot of money probably couldn't be happy without money either...

I think money is a rational commodity. It is calculable and predictable. We can only analyze our experiences with money on a rational plane. If we try to analyze our experiences with money on an irrational plane, we will probably be unhappy even if we are rich...

Money is important, of course, but it is simply an intermediary between us and happiness. Green pieces of paper by themselves cannot make anyone happy. Of course, they provide many opportunities, but the fact is that there are some things that cannot be bought. I believe that the most important thing in life is family, and love cannot be bought.
Yes, it’s banal, but you need to develop inner qualities in yourself, and only then will those around you truly respect you.

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July 11, 2024, 11:41:27 AM
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Money does not guarantee happiness, but someone who has money can be happy more easily than someone who does not have money.

I would add that without money it is very likely that you will be not happy most of the time. I'd say, it's not about being happy, but about not being unhappy and even miserable in your everyday life.


Miserable to the fact that they can't buy their needs if they don't have money.

Someone who couldn't be happy despite having a lot of money probably couldn't be happy without money either...

People that are unhappy while having a lot of money, just don't know to what extent of unhappiness they would descend having no money at all.

Its just they have other personal issues that can cause them sadness especially if their relation to other people is affected for sure this is the main concern of those rich people since other than that I guess they don't have a problem since their wealth could fill those things what they need.

I think money is a rational commodity. It is calculable and predictable. We can only analyze our experiences with money on a rational plane. If we try to analyze our experiences with money on an irrational plane, we will probably be unhappy even if we are rich...

There are a lot of people who are rich and still unhappy, but that doesn't imply that money won't make a poor person happy. It most likely will. So, if you are poor, don't think "Money doesn't guarantee happiness" and do nothing. Work hard and try to make more money.

Overall point of this people should not stop grinding because they read that money can't guarantee happiness since this is just a lame excuse of people who suffer from poverty. If they want to get out on that situation then they should work to gain a lot of money since for sure everything will follow.

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Yes, we can't deny that there are some people who are unhappy despite having money but in the end it's only a small percentage of the majority of people living today who consider money to be the benchmark. Including in this case me. Not to say that I am a servant of money but we also have to be realistic because in the end people who are unhappy when they have money are a small picture compared to the happiness that comes from money in the end.

Nowadays, we need money to do anything and it is unavoidable because after all, with the creation of money, its task has been functioned for that. Although in the end we also have to be able to control ourselves by thinking that it is money that must work for us not us who work for money but we cannot deny the existence of money today is always a benchmark of the source of happiness.
Yes, I think the sentence that says that money does not guarantee happiness is the rich themselves who already have wealth and their lives are guaranteed, so they deliberately make that sentence in order not to have competitors or so that people remain under them, because it is impossible for that sentence to come out of the mouth of a poor person who basically eats hard.

We may be able to distinguish when we are unhappy crying but sitting in a McLaren car and crying sitting on the side of the road, a different parable scheme with the same pain experience but with different circumstances, which may be able to recover quickly and be happy when having bad experiences in life, when we have money we can help more money, and what I feel when I see other people happy because I help them, I can feel happy too even though I am unhappy in other problems.

Yes, we just try to understand the reality that may happen to everyone, that money can give us more happiness in our lives.
Because in the end, everything really depends on the mindset. We must be aware that the thinking for people whose economic strata are at the bottom definitely wants a luxurious life so that they have an ambition where there is a life goal that they want to achieve, namely a glamorous life in the sense of having a lot of money so that they buy without having to bother thinking about the nominal and it can be categorized as a source of happiness for them because indeed they have never felt that way. But it is different with those who are already rich and have abundant money because they have actually achieved goals that others have not even been able to realize so that they (who are already rich) are confused that their standard of happiness is actually not money anymore but others are different from poor people who are sure that their standard of happiness is more based on money and I am included here.

So when those who say money is not a source of happiness, they have actually gotten and felt it and I think even then it is only a small portion and those of us who are alive who dare to say that money is not a source of wealth because no one really does not need money until now.

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July 11, 2024, 12:36:46 PM
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Although it does not guarantee happiness as mentioned but money is a major factor in everyday life. I believe that if someone gets large amounts of money then he will definitely be very happy. But on the other hand health is also a very important thing to maintain and also need money. So I don't really believe it fully if money will not guarantee anything in life. I can only think objectively.

When you think about it you have to be more objective, especially if it is about money, because whatever the environmental conditions we live in now, of course money will still be needed in the end. So it cannot be denied that everyone always tries to get as much money as possible through their work in order to achieve a sense of happiness that they may still have hidden in their hearts because they don't have more money in their lives.

And I also don't believe that there are rich people who say that money can't bring happiness to your life. Because when he becomes rich by having a lot of money, he will definitely feel more happiness in his life even though money can also make a person ruined if it is not managed well in better things. Because the trigger for destruction in a rich person is when he doesn't know how to manage money and also always uses it in places that are not good enough for him.
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Money does not guarantee happiness, but someone who has money can be happy more easily than someone who does not have money. Someone who couldn't be happy despite having a lot of money probably couldn't be happy without money either...
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Nowadays, wherever we go in the world, we hear only desire for money from all people. Living in modern society people have reached a point where they feel happiness in nothing but money.
Maybe money is not the root of all happiness, still people are not happy without money. There are many rich personalities in the society who have endless money but they are not happy mainly because they are greedy. Happiness is a state of mind, the more joy you experience in everything, the happier you will be. I think to be happy we need to be satisfied with little so that we can control our greed. A person whose greed or need is less is happy because he is satisfied with little.

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Money do not really guarantee happiness, happiness is subjective,and it goes on from person to person.
 But when a person has a good financial stability it also contribute highly to the person comfort.
True happiness can come from people you love,doing the things you love most,, going to places you love to be like going on vacation, spending more time with family, having an healthy life,achieving those things you love in life,all of these can contribute to the true happiness of a person.
True happiness Doesn't really rely on money.

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Although it does not guarantee happiness as mentioned but money is a major factor in everyday life. I believe that if someone gets large amounts of money then he will definitely be very happy. But on the other hand health is also a very important thing to maintain and also need money. So I don't really believe it fully if money will not guarantee anything in life. I can only think objectively.
In living this life of course everyone needs money to be able to meet all their needs and it is very difficult if we don't have money to be able to meet the necessary needs and I don't agree with you that someone who gets a lot of money will be able to get happiness and in terms of happiness of course This will really depend on how someone interprets their life and when they are satisfied with what they have got of course they will easily be happy, but we also see that those who have a lot of money are still looking for happiness in something they can get. where they don't have to spend money.

In my opinion, to maintain health you don't have to spend money, but when we feel sick that's why we have to spend money for treatment and while we still have health, of course we have to take good care of it and don't need to spend money. Don't forget our own health when making money, of course this is very important.

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Almost all of us agree that wealth is important, but it is not one of the keys to happiness and peace because peace and happiness are our own way of creating it.
Yep. Everyone should agree that wealth is needed. However, having the wealth sometimes doesn't guarantee the happiness. It is because happiness is something a bit complicated, it is not always related to the wealth. Even if someone has limited funds, he can happy if he lives around his lovely people. Meanwhile rich people may be not happy because they have no time to gather with their lovely people. This is one of the examples of happiness that doesn't rely on the wealth.
I once saw a movie from Japan 'Okuotoko' where it tells about a situation where money sometimes ends up being a source of problems for the main character and his family whose life becomes like a roller coaster when the main character who has no money and becomes a millionaire but loses his wife because he is too obsessed with money.

This movie also tells us that in the end, money and wealth are indeed important things to have but that doesn't mean we have to be someone who only focuses on money and doesn't care about other things including family and spouse.
I learned quite a lot from this because in the end, even though money is important for the life we live, we must realize that we must be able to control the activities we do so that money does not become a source of problems for us. Because in the end, when we only live and focus on money, we will forget the conditions around us, including love for our family because our focus is only on wealth.  Indeed, as much as possible we should try to get our own version of money and wealth but that does not mean we have to sacrifice feelings which in the end this becomes a new problem that makes us unhappy despite having money.

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Money doesn't guarantee happiness, there's a lot of people that are rich and are not happy maybe due to some issues boarding them health issues or some personal problems they have.a lot of rich people have secrets that hunt them either the way they got there money or somewhere they have put there hands into,or not having peace in your home because of the kind of wife you got married to.
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