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June 29, 2024, 05:31:02 AM
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I have first-hand knowledge of a similar case of a teller stealing from elderly people to fuel his cocaine addiction. It was minor when he was caught because the main problem with gambling is the large amount of money you can lose in a very short time. If you take drugs like cocaine or heroin there is a limit to how much you can take without dying. You can't snort $1M of cocaine in one night, but you can lose $1M in one night at the casino.

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June 29, 2024, 09:13:52 AM
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It is quite strange that such crimes are considered justifications for gambling addiction. This woman is a criminal, with an understanding of her impunity and indifference to the victims. Even murderers sometimes do not raise their hands against children and the elderly because they understand the latter's defenselessness. But as long as the laws of those countries where justifications of addiction justify such scumbags and give them light punishments, scammers will exist with even more sophisticated deception schemes.

I don't think that this crimes are considered justifications, it's that the gamblers in this case the teller thought that she can get away with it buy targeting the vulnerable elder people because she knows by experience that they are not going to report and they will not find it out. And it's really hard to compare them to murderers or even drug addicts, gambling addiction is very different.

But as per as our experience, we really don't need to go down to this kind of path, than is one of the worst thing to do, to steal to feed your gambling addiction. Yes, it's hard to regain footing from our addiction unless it's too late, just like this lady who will go to jail and most likely he will have to pay back the money that she has stolen by any means.

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June 29, 2024, 09:30:32 AM
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How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

I opened the link you shared, read it and tried to understand it much deeper. this is interesting, because this bank teller made an excuse as if he did it because he was addicted to gambling. I wonder why gambling addiction often becomes the basis for strengthening someone's mistakes or criminal acts. in this case, a bank teller is said to have committed an illegal act by taking action to take something that was not his right from his customers using almost the same method. in fact, this person is skilled enough to choose his target, acting in a planned manner. he chooses each customer who will be his target. I assume that this Teller has studied various data from each customer of the bank where he works. well, with the method he carries out his illegal actions on his customers, I doubt if he only does it to fulfill his gambling desires. Maybe he's just making an excuse as a diversion, or perhaps to lighten his sentence. BTW, I don't really know about legal jurisdiction issues in that country. so, I'm speaking based on what I know, correct me if I'm wrong.

Regardless of the truth of the facts regarding this news, we often see one point of view on something that is violating, but in reality we ourselves are responsible for what we do. I mean in this context, cases of gambling addiction are always in the mainstream due to illegal actions carried out by someone. Simply put, in this case a person often commits illegal acts based on a gambling addiction, but in reality it is the person who is unable to control himself. apart from that, it is the presence of opportunity that makes someone tempted to do something that violates the law. yes, apart from the gambling addiction carried out by this bank teller, most of the main motives for crimes occur due purely to the will and low level of a person's personality.


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June 29, 2024, 10:25:37 AM
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          -   It's really sad that the tellers took advantage of the situation of the elders to scam their four customers. What's even more annoying here is that the teller was merciless in what he did, not even considering the victim's health problems.

That's the real problem when there is a gambling addiction. A gambling addict can think badly, so it's important that we don't allow ourselves to have a gambling addiction. It's a good thing that there is a CCTV, which is the reason why the teller was caught and imprisoned.

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June 29, 2024, 10:32:48 AM
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That's how people will change because of the money and we know how they can deal with different things just to sustain their gambling addiction, let's accept the fact that the elders are the ones to easily get deceived beside of their personalities of being kind, imagine the damage given by this teller it affects the elders sustainability this kind of action must need to get a sanctions and feel sad to those elders if their money have the chance to get back in their custody or it will get let go and let the teller pay those to them.

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June 29, 2024, 02:18:09 PM
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That's how people will change because of the money and we know how they can deal with different things just to sustain their gambling addiction, let's accept the fact that the elders are the ones to easily get deceived beside of their personalities of being kind, imagine the damage given by this teller it affects the elders sustainability this kind of action must need to get a sanctions and feel sad to those elders if their money have the chance to get back in their custody or it will get let go and let the teller pay those to them.

Addiction can really change a person's personality, making their behavior very sadistic and not caring about who they are targeting as victims, and all of this is the result of those who treat gambling in the wrong way and from the wrong perspective. However, of course this is purely the fault of a gambler who from the start sees gambling only from the chance of winning, and maybe I would say they are like losers who want to get a lot of money with little effort in gambling.

Parents are people who are unfamiliar with things that are complicated to look at, especially technology, they really need people they can trust, but on the other hand, in this case, I don't think the police will remain silent either. They must be able to find a truly appropriate solution and for the problem of lost customer money, whether they like it or not, the defendant or the defendant's family will definitely have to compensate them according to the amount they have used and perhaps the amount of compensation could increase depending on the legal policy there.

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June 29, 2024, 02:21:59 PM
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Those who have a gambling addiction should realizes about his problem so he can start to cure it before it's too late to do. But not many people who have a gambling addiction wants to cure their addiction or even knows that they are addicted to gambling. But if he stole other people money just to fills his gambling addiction, that means the addiction is too big and must gets helps from people around them. Besides of gets in jail, she must cured her addiction because that can gives her another problem in the future when she is free from her punishment.

We must be careful with that and always pay attention to our bank account, especially our parents bank account. Scammers and thieves can tricks old people who doesn't know much thing about secure their bank account.

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June 29, 2024, 02:37:21 PM
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In the last two months of her employment, the 28-year-old stole money from four customers, with the thefts only being discovered when one of them queried receiving a letter about money being withdrawn from a dormant account.
TSB Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction

How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

Families must be attentive to their elders when going to the bank and dealing with money in general. Scammers and thieves are everywhere and always ready to take advantage of the vulnerability of such individuals at an advanced age.

The biggest concern here is not about her addiction but rather why a simple teller can withdraw from a customer account without ay verification from the manager. I mean how come a simple teller has access to the database of all customers that she can determine dormant account and withdraw without his superior noticing it.

If all bank teller has this power then it’s suicide to use bank especially for savings purposes. I wonder if this teller authority is same to all bank in the world.



Back in topic, a gambling addicted person working in a bank is surely living in temptation daily since he always seeing money on his work and tempted to steal in every possible way. It’s sucks to be addicted while working in the bank.  Cheesy

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June 29, 2024, 02:43:01 PM
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In the last two months of her employment, the 28-year-old stole money from four customers, with the thefts only being discovered when one of them queried receiving a letter about money being withdrawn from a dormant account.
TSB Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction

How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?
I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happened, in fact there are many cases crazier than this, it's just that they haven't been published so there are only a few cases that have surfaced, that's why it's important to know that gambling shouldn't be taken too seriously, let alone think that gambling can make us rich so that when we lose we always hope that by continuing to play we will recover all the money we have lost, even though that is clearly not possible and only a small percentage succeed. Since there are so many cases, there are still many people who are addicted to gambling.

Cases like this should not continue to happen again because there have been many incidents where there have been thefts and even cases of murder just because of gambling addiction, everyone should be able to understand every case that occurs and study it properly that gambling should not be a place to make money and people should not expect too much. with gambling because gambling cannot make someone rich just because of gambling, every successful person works or does business, not gambling, learn from this case so that you can introspect yourself that you should never try to finance gambling from stealing.

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June 29, 2024, 03:09:10 PM
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Moral: "Be your own bank" Wink

Now seriously, those who have a gambling addiction shouldn't work in certain jobs like tellers, cashiers and, in general, jobs where a lot of money through your hands. It's like the barman who has an alcoholic addiction: the combination is explosive.

It may sound a bit sexist depending on the culture of the country where you live, but it also surprised me a lot that the protagonist of the story was a woman. Definitely some kind of bias on my side, but to begin with I would trust a woman with my money more than a man.

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In the last two months of her employment, the 28-year-old stole money from four customers, with the thefts only being discovered when one of them queried receiving a letter about money being withdrawn from a dormant account.
TSB Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction

How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

Families must be attentive to their elders when going to the bank and dealing with money in general. Scammers and thieves are everywhere and always ready to take advantage of the vulnerability of such individuals at an advanced age.
If she stole the money her defense doesn't really matter IMO. Doesn't matter if she was feeding her hungry kids, paying her mortgage, or feeding an addiction. None of that is a real defense, just a lawyer hoping to gain some sympathy and get a lower sentence.

I think either society is generally stupid or lawyers are really good. Unsure of which way to go with my thinking as lawyers tell a good and compelling story and are doing their jobs when trying to get clients a lighter sentence, but the jury shouldn't be so gullible and should be relying on facts in a case. Sure, you can feel sorry for a person, but very few reasons should get enough sympathy for an acquittal or very light sentence.

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June 29, 2024, 03:37:46 PM
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How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

Unfortunately, an addicted person has no limits, he will use any means he can to feed his addiction, this includes selling his parents' house, selling his own parents, selling his children, selling himself to feed his addiction, and that's why Addiction is a dangerous disease that must be taken very seriously, it is a very difficult disease to cure, it takes a long time to cure an addicted person, it takes a long time to get used to the disasters and problems that an addicted relative causes. It is not something easy and most of the time the addict ends up badly, he dies because he received late treatment



reading this statement that Sam Hunt (lawyer for the bank employee who is being accused of theft) gave in court:


She said the offending would never have happened if not for Tumapang’s gambling addiction, and she was addressing that issue.

source: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tsb-bank-teller-stole-28000-from-customers-to-feed-her-gambling-addiction/AS5GXS6SIVEDPHEPH3ONBHOGLE/

I didn't see in the article talking about whether her lawyer or even she had show any proof that she took the money and played in a casino, because if she can prove that she really was sick, because addiction is a disease, she would not be sentenced to prison, but she would be sentenced to helping in some institution under constant monitoring by the justice system. casinos and sports betting sites are not to blame for anything, people are to blame for gambling without moderation

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June 29, 2024, 03:50:45 PM
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How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

Families must be attentive to their elders when going to the bank and dealing with money in general. Scammers and thieves are everywhere and always ready to take advantage of the vulnerability of such individuals at an advanced age.
I know many people could do unspeakable things for gambling's sake, but this story, I do not believe it towards gambling since it is not the first time people/bank workers have stolen from people's accounts, especially old people, believing that they may not be able to account for the sum anymore due to their old age or some kind of sicknesses. This is a case of a pure thief in my opinion, and whether it is for gambling or not, I would rather treat it the same way as stealing, nothing further.

Who knows, it may not even be for gambling but trying to blame it on something psychological like it. In my experience with legal proceedings, anything that enters the court can't be trusted, her lawyer may just be looking for a way to lessen her punishment and blame it on gambling addiction, especially if she has a history of gambling regularly. This is why I will always blame her action and not what she stole the money for, they are only trying to further paint gambling bad in some cases.

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June 29, 2024, 04:03:08 PM
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Moral: "Be your own bank" Wink

Now seriously, those who have a gambling addiction shouldn't work in certain jobs like tellers, cashiers and, in general, jobs where a lot of money through your hands. It's like the barman who has an alcoholic addiction: the combination is explosive.

It may sound a bit sexist depending on the culture of the country where you live, but it also surprised me a lot that the protagonist of the story was a woman. Definitely some kind of bias on my side, but to begin with I would trust a woman with my money more than a man.

I wonder who should prohibit people with gambling addiction from working in such places? And in general, I don’t know in your country there are people with an official medical certificate that they suffer from gambling addiction? It seems to me that this is not a type of addiction that is easy to identify and document, like alcohol or drug addiction. It seems to me that this is a model of behavior that a person chooses voluntarily.

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June 29, 2024, 04:04:38 PM
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Too bad that these elders suffered this problem when they did nothing, this is why I'm really careful when banks officers ask me to sign signatures or offer their products, I will try to avoid anything that I can.

Moral: "Be your own bank" Wink

Now seriously, those who have a gambling addiction shouldn't work in certain jobs like tellers, cashiers and, in general, jobs where a lot of money through your hands. It's like the barman who has an alcoholic addiction: the combination is explosive.

It may sound a bit sexist depending on the culture of the country where you live, but it also surprised me a lot that the protagonist of the story was a woman. Definitely some kind of bias on my side, but to begin with I would trust a woman with my money more than a man.
Yeah in my country if the worker found out that he's a gambler, the boss will move his position to a job that has not relation with money.

Man or woman, isn't the point. Women nowadays spend their money for anything they like without thinking twice, if you meet such women, you need to track her financial spending.

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June 29, 2024, 04:42:10 PM
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I am not buying the story of gambling addiction. The manner of the theft looks way too calculated and the fact that she was able to repay the entire amount stolen when caught doesn't suggest she was a gambling addict. This looks like a ploy the defense team is using to get a lesser sentence.

On the other side, this case shows how unreliable the centralized banking system truly is. You cannot verify and have to trust the system which is run by humans.

Yeah, if she actually managed to repay that money then I would seriously doubt she was fueling an addiction to gambling, otherwise there would be no penny to be collected and repay with to those victims. It is likely she was slowly accumulating money from vulnerable people, in order to retire in the future with all of it, hoping she would not be caught on time, she did though. This is likely to strategy by her lawyers to picture her as a vulnerable woman who was not sure what she was doing. I wonder why they did not go with a drug addiction story... I guess it is because it would be easier for prosecutors to find out she is not actually addicted to cocaine or other substances.

The traditional banking system has already been caught on its flaws, the recession of 2008 was just the beginning, hence the huge crypto advance we see today, compared to those times.

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In the last two months of her employment, the 28-year-old stole money from four customers, with the thefts only being discovered when one of them queried receiving a letter about money being withdrawn from a dormant account.
TSB Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction

How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

Families must be attentive to their elders when going to the bank and dealing with money in general. Scammers and thieves are everywhere and always ready to take advantage of the vulnerability of such individuals at an advanced age.
Scary what addiction could do to someone. Imagine stealing to other people just to gamble. This is worse than borrowing money from other people to feed the urge of betting. The bank teller definitely needs to have her condition checked by professionals because her guilt might be fading already. For sure she knows the condition of elders where she stole the money, but still did it. This is really alarming.
Moral: "Be your own bank" Wink

Now seriously, those who have a gambling addiction shouldn't work in certain jobs like tellers, cashiers and, in general, jobs where a lot of money through your hands. It's like the barman who has an alcoholic addiction: the combination is explosive.

It may sound a bit sexist depending on the culture of the country where you live, but it also surprised me a lot that the protagonist of the story was a woman. Definitely some kind of bias on my side, but to begin with I would trust a woman with my money more than a man.
Or better yet to avoid having a job until addiction is aided. Continuing to work will just feed a gambler's addiction. He/she won't perform that well if his/her mind is occupied with the urge of gambling and that will just cause negative impression on hiss/her portfolio. We shouldn't be taking addiction lightly 'coz the overall wellbeing of an individual is affected. Have it treated as soon as possible than to just set it aside hoping things will just happen on its own.

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the real problem is not thinking about the long-term consequences.
How much could he have earned from his work over the years? How many lawyer expenses now will he have to face?
Well, such issues can only lead to very serious problems as in this case.
Unfortunately when you trust other people who manage your money... this can happen very easily

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In the last two months of her employment, the 28-year-old stole money from four customers, with the thefts only being discovered when one of them queried receiving a letter about money being withdrawn from a dormant account.
TSB Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction

How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

Families must be attentive to their elders when going to the bank and dealing with money in general. Scammers and thieves are everywhere and always ready to take advantage of the vulnerability of such individuals at an advanced age.

That happens everywhere.Where I live the doctors were only making the 50% a chemotherapy session and 50% were adding only water to it,they were only intercepted after the special court got into them when some relatives of those people told that when those person do their chemo at a private hospital they feel much more effects and when they do it in the state they don't feel a dip shit at all.This lead to investigation and jailing the doctors for life,imagine when a doctor does that,what can you expect from a bank teller,nothing.The doctors here were gambling and making the money for a Maldive or Bahamas vacation in just a week and that is horrendous to say the least.People will do anything for their gambling addiction and all possible evil things we can imagine.It is true that elderly people are the most vulnerable and always should not go to the bank alone.

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In the last two months of her employment, the 28-year-old stole money from four customers, with the thefts only being discovered when one of them queried receiving a letter about money being withdrawn from a dormant account.
TSB Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction

How far do people go to feed a gambling addiction?

In this story we have a young bank teller, 28 years old lady, who stole 28,000$ from four different elders who were suffering from health and cognitive problems. Her goal was to fuel a gambling addiction, as presented by the defense at the court.

Families must be attentive to their elders when going to the bank and dealing with money in general. Scammers and thieves are everywhere and always ready to take advantage of the vulnerability of such individuals at an advanced age.
Stealing is already wrong, doing so for a gambling addiction is even more wrong and stealing from a sector of the population that is vulnerable is even worse, however if that was not enough, it is not clear if she was mandated to serve any time on jail which is preposterous, it really bothers me that whenever white-collar crimes are committed jail time is not guaranteed or a very short sentence is given, when we have seen many cases of people committing suicide because of the money lost, and in my opinion those deaths should be directly attributed to those that stole that money and they should be judged accordingly.
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