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June 27, 2024, 11:03:51 PM Last edit: June 28, 2024, 02:25:42 AM by AlphaBoy |
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Something that people always afraid of is that AI will take there jobs and that one day there will be no artist or programmers or coders or movie producers since AI will be much cheaper than hiring them.
those people probably think AI is some sort of magic or something. AI is simply a storage unite that save the information and connects together via a certain pattern, it cannot create new things at all. If you go to AI and ask him to write you a novel you will notice that entire novel's content is borrowed from different novels or movies or TV series. AI will only take the jobs from people who give low, medium and mediocre level it. in the future only high tier artist, journalists, programmers will be around while the rest will be in McDonald's serving food.
100 years ago the cars became less luxury and middle class can afford it, people thought that all Horse farms will go bankrupt since no one will use horses, will 95% closed and the top 5% stayed in business and Horses became a luxury for the rich.
and around the same time automated ovens invented and people thought al bakeries will go bankrupt, and yes most bakeries closed down while the top tier stayed in business. you see whether it a job or a business it isn't about how hard you work, it's about how hard to be replaced, giant corporations like Microsoft didn't lay off all of there employees, they only laid off the low and medium level employee that does a job an AI can do it easily while those who work and invent a new things stayed in the job.
in another word if you want to be a writer or artist and have a second thought because AI will take your job then fear not, AI will not take your job and if it did then you simply weren't cut off to do it in the first place.
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those people probably think AI is some sort of magic or something. AI is simply a storage unite that save the information and connects together via a certain pattern, it cannot create new things at all.
Exactly and many people fail to realize this ai will always need humans first and foremost because everything they create is from humans as well they are just taking from preexisting human creation and this is why people should be more careful about sharing data online because that can be now easily used by ai for ill intent purposes in another word if you want to be a writer or artist and have a second thought because AI will take your job then fear not, AI will not take your job and if it did then you simply weren't cut off to do it in the first place.
good point, if you can't write better than ai then you are not a writer at all
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June 28, 2024, 01:19:02 AM |
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AI is simply a storage unite that save the information and connects together via a certain pattern, it cannot create new things at all.
Actually, it is your mind that cannot create new things. Every thought you have ever had is based on something you experienced. A mind is not even capable of producing random numbers. AI has already taken trillions of pieces of DNA and identified new cures for diseases! There is nothing you can do that AI will eventually be able to do faster and without mistakes or fatigue.
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June 28, 2024, 02:21:27 AM |
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those people probably think AI is some sort of magic or something. AI is simply a storage unite that save the information and connects together via a certain pattern, it cannot create new things at all.
Exactly and many people fail to realize this ai will always need humans first and foremost because everything they create is from humans as well they are just taking from preexisting human creation and this is why people should be more careful about sharing data online because that can be now easily used by ai for ill intent purposes in another word if you want to be a writer or artist and have a second thought because AI will take your job then fear not, AI will not take your job and if it did then you simply weren't cut off to do it in the first place.
good point, if you can't write better than ai then you are not a writer at all the point that AI has no imagination or a mind of it's own, it can't create new things and the whole (AI will take our jobs) is for the best, people who give low effort and expect a lot in returner shouldn't be allowed to live and work, AI replacement is a good thing. AI is simply a storage unite that save the information and connects together via a certain pattern, it cannot create new things at all.
Actually, it is your mind that cannot create new things. Every thought you have ever had is based on something you experienced. A mind is not even capable of producing random numbers. AI has already taken trillions of pieces of DNA and identified new cures for diseases! There is nothing you can do that AI will eventually be able to do faster and without mistakes or fatigue. I have a dream about places that I never visit nor I heard of, and the guy who invited π did not roamed the earth and the guy who invented the number decillion never had or saw anything that has this value. a human mind is capable of creating thing out of nothing, that is why you have imagination. AI and computers have nothing of that and yes, it simply storage data and use it in a pattern. Look at the AI made by google, if you asked him to create any white historical figures he will create it as black and why? because it was true? No, because they programed it to be like this. AI will never cure any dieses, it has no mind or reason and logic other than what you put inside it and it isn't capable of doing something that human didn't do before. let me tell you something, the people who discovered insulin and cured diabetes have always imagined liquid excreted by the human body that get rid of the extra sugar in your blood, and later on they were right. try to insert this in AI that never heard of Insulin and the benefit of the Pancreas and ask him to create the cure or even imagine it. the human mind isn't faster than a that of a robot, but it's smarter and capable of imagining things unlike a robot. something that very important to remember that humans are similar to robots in the end, we have a data storage in our brain and a deeper one in our DNA how ever our brain have the ability of imagining or simply create new things out of already existing things which is something that AI will never do unless we discover all of the secrets and wonders of human brain and mind, and I don't see this happening at least in 200 years.
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In each different social context, we all learn how to adapt to life's circumstances. I really feel that some people's fear of the AI field is just their way of attracting attention, or opposition... But no matter how a new tool is found, it is still something that supports us, it's just how we use it. I once talked with some friends about developing AI and most Not everyone is experiencing the rapid changes that AI brings. But anyway, it reminds me of another story about the internet from the beginning to the present, it has both negative and positive existence that the users themselves touch that. So feel free to be optimistic about the changing times, and consolidate your knowledge to not be surprised by the rapid changes.
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I have a dream about places that I never visit nor I heard of, and the guy who invited π did not roamed the earth and the guy who invented the number decillion never had or saw anything that has this value.
Any number can be discovered once you understand the base number system. That guy probably saw that one hundred of something was more than ten of something and his brain figured it out as he slept. The next guy who "discovered" ten decillion did not need any additional experience. As for your dream of a place you have never visited or heard of - tell me how you know it wasn't just a collage of previous landscapes you had seen?
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June 28, 2024, 09:59:45 PM |
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In each different social context, we all learn how to adapt to life's circumstances. I really feel that some people's fear of the AI field is just their way of attracting attention, or opposition... But no matter how a new tool is found, it is still something that supports us, it's just how we use it. I once talked with some friends about developing AI and most Not everyone is experiencing the rapid changes that AI brings. But anyway, it reminds me of another story about the internet from the beginning to the present, it has both negative and positive existence that the users themselves touch that. So feel free to be optimistic about the changing times, and consolidate your knowledge to not be surprised by the rapid changes.
true, but the positive will be better than the negative. this is the same story about factories, the more evolution the machines get the less people needed in the factories which will led to the decline of population. 150 years ago the average British family had 8 kids, today they have only 2 because 150 year ago factories needed more people which meant more jobs, today modern machinery made it much easier which meant less people and less jobs. have you ever wonder why 3rd world have more population? because they aren't developed enough and that the reason once China been developed and became 2rd world the population start to decline. the AI will do the same but this time with non-physical jobs. in the end any low-med writer or artist or coder will either work in physics labor or serve food. I have a dream about places that I never visit nor I heard of, and the guy who invited π did not roamed the earth and the guy who invented the number decillion never had or saw anything that has this value.
Any number can be discovered once you understand the base number system. That guy probably saw that one hundred of something was more than ten of something and his brain figured it out as he slept. The next guy who "discovered" ten decillion did not need any additional experience. As for your dream of a place you have never visited or heard of - tell me how you know it wasn't just a collage of previous landscapes you had seen? The point is a human brain can create things out of thing or non-existing thing. the people who made the wheel never saw a circle in there life and the closest thing to a circle they ever saw was the octagon in a bee hive. the same can be said about those who discovered the plasma state (which you get when you heat element beyond the gas state) I mean for at least 1000 years people though everything have 3 states and yet those people insist of the existing of 4th. as for my dream then I dream in jungle which is weird as I never been in a jungle before and where I live it's really hard to spot a tree, I also dreamed once about a mansion which is also weird since I never lived in a mansion or even saw one from the inside. I also dreamed once about a room with a Piano which is even weirder science I dreamed about this even before seeing the actual instrument, the first time I saw a Piano I thought to my self (oh this is the instrument from my dream).
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the people who made the wheel never saw a circle in there life and the closest thing to a circle they ever saw was the octagon in a bee hive.
I'm afraid you have no many biases to have a discussion with. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Physics existed long before humanity, and circles existed everywhere in nature.
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I'm OK with it taking my job so long as I get some kind of Universal Basic Income as a result. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F29%2FhqBN5.png&t=665&c=yINs78P_1kWoNA)
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June 29, 2024, 08:59:23 AM |
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the people who made the wheel never saw a circle in there life and the closest thing to a circle they ever saw was the octagon in a bee hive.
I'm afraid you have no many biases to have a discussion with. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Physics existed long before humanity, and circles existed everywhere in nature. the point is AI will never be smarter than a human, if you believe in God then you don't think that humans will ever be smarter than God. and name me one singler naturel circle that at least 90% close to a full circle? I mean Mesopotamia is half desert do you really think it has naturel circles around? I'm OK with it taking my job so long as I get some kind of Universal Basic Income as a result.
no but here what is going to happen.1-You gonna find a physical labor job and do some honest work which won't be available at some point 2-You gonna serve food and death is more merciful than the second choice one trust me I know.
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if you believe in God
Ah. If you could start with that next time, it could save everyone a lot of energy. Faith and Facts are not compatible. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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it has been a while that people fear AI, but to me, this is not some sort of issues we should be really concerned about. AI is really just a extremely complex computer programme, and almost everything related to those can fail to operate in one day, like humans do. i am way more concerned about how they are using it. as more and more big companies hopping onto the AI bandwagon, driving up the price of memory storage.
by the way, if they ever want to replace artists with AI, clients will need to accurately and thoroughly describe what kind of designs they would expect.
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The point is a human brain can create things out of thing or non-existing thing. the people who made the wheel never saw a circle in there life and the closest thing to a circle they ever saw was the octagon in a bee hive.
It might be true that people never got to completely understand the concept of a perfect circle back then but it’s not true that the ictagon may be the closest to a circle. I mean there was the sun and the moon. They probably got the idea from other similar shapes from nature. I also dreamed once about a room with a Piano which is even weirder science I dreamed about this even before seeing the actual instrument, the first time I saw a Piano I thought to my self (oh this is the instrument from my dream).
Is that real lol The brain works and absorbs information at a rapid speed that sometimes it wouldn’t even occur to you what you just saw, heard, or felt until your brain replays it for you often through dreams
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I'm OK with it taking my job so long as I get some kind of Universal Basic Income as a result.
lol - do you know what happens to livestock when they are no longer useful? 😮
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~ in another word if you want to be a writer or artist and have a second thought because AI will take your job then fear not, AI will not take your job and if it did then you simply weren't cut off to do it in the first place.
That's what I agree with. If AI can replace you, then you are not that important in your place.
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I'm OK with it taking my job so long as I get some kind of Universal Basic Income as a result.
lol - do you know what happens to livestock when they are no longer useful? 😮 I'm just kidding... I don't have a job, so there's nothing for it to take.
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Let AI take all the jobs, and work for us free. We can travel the world with AI doing it all for us. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I dont think that the first condition to take a job is to be good at it, i think that the first condition is to love whatever you do during your lifetime, personally if i like the place i work in and i like the job, i believe that i can do any job i want, you say that you have to be good at it to take the job ,but how could you be good at it just like that i mean we all have our first-time in everything, you can't just be good at something if you don't make mistakes first, you just have to learn from those mistakes.
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Unfortunately, most people are unaware that white-collar workers are being replaced by AI even earlier than blue-collar workers.
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Unfortunately, most people are unaware that white-collar workers are being replaced by AI even earlier than blue-collar workers.
Yep! AI can't build a house or dig a ditch, but it sure as hell can do anything that you can do while sitting in a spinney chair behind a keyboard in an air conditioned office. 😎
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