Wasabi topic hijacked by Kruw

[dkbit98]

Is someone from Wasabi team finally going to come up and say something about this Kruw hijacker who hijacked Wasabi topic and he is using it for promoting his coordinator crap?

This guy popped up from nowhere in 2023 and he is acting like representative of Wasabi wallet, but in reality he uses it only to promote his own coordinator.

Let's remember that we are talking about the same guy who was celebrating when another forum member announced he was leaving the forum because he was terminally ill.

Kruw is constantly making fake scam accusations to everyone who ever joined any mixing campaign in the past, and he didn't provide a single proof for his claims.

Hijacker Kruw profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3534730

Hijacked topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476197.0


Local moderation rule:
Posts from Kruw are not allowed in this topic.

[Poker Player]

When there was a campaign on the forum they did not have an official representative active here, so now I don't think they will appear.

On the other hand, it doesn't surprise me that this scum everything he does has as its only interest his personal economic benefit, in this case to promote his coordinator, no matter how much he wants to sell it as privacy protection.

[NeuroticFish]

This guy popped up from nowhere in 2023 and he is acting like representative of Wasabi wallet, but in reality he uses it only to promote his own coordinator.
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Kruw is constantly making fake scam accusations to everyone who ever joined any mixing campaign in the past, and he didn't provide a single proof for his claims.

I would not be surprised if this is his "strategy" to draw attention, hence advertise his service.

Let's remember that we are talking about the same guy who was celebrating when another forum member announced he was leaving the forum because he was terminally ill.

I have him on ignore list since then. I know it's not nice, since somebody has to counter him too and expose his lies, but yeah, my sanity matters too.



Sadly I don't have other advice than not responding him and - now and then - advise people to ignore him in larger numbers. Not sure how effective would that be though.

[examplens]

Is someone from Wasabi team finally going to come up and say something about this Kruw hijackers who hijacked Wasabi topic and he is using it for promoting his coordinator crap?

This guy popped up from nowhere in 2023 and he is acting like representative of Wasabi wallet, but in reality he uses it only to promote his own coordinator.

I am under the impression that almost all new wasabi coordinators and monitoring services are a little more aggressive active than necessary

Sadly I don't have other advice than not responding him and - now and then - advise people to ignore him in larger numbers. Not sure how effective would that be though.

I was part of the WasabiWallet signature campaign and at times it was very difficult. I had the feeling that whatever the campaign brought to the band, kruw would do everything to cancel it immediately. It was very difficult to maintain a civilized discussion if he was also part of it.
Yes, that's the only way, to ignore and avoid any discussion with him.

[LoyceV]

Hijacked topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476197.0

Playing devil's advocate here: you can't really say he hijacked it, if he's the one who created it.

Kruw is constantly making fake scam accusations to everyone who ever joined any mixing campaign in the past

He did indeed just pop up in my notifications with this.

I have him on ignore list since then. I know it's not nice, since somebody has to counter him too and expose his lies, but yeah, my sanity matters too.

Same here. I don't want to read his posts. But if he's promoting his own coinjoin coordinator, shouldn't that be banned? See:

Examples of things that are not banned mixers include exchangers (unless they have a mixing function), CoinJoin-supporting non-custodial wallets, and Monero.

Not banning the wallet is one thing, but isn't actively promoting the coordinator more or less the same as promoting mixing?

[NeuroticFish]

But if he's promoting his own coinjoin coordinator, shouldn't that be banned? See:

Examples of things that are not banned mixers include exchangers (unless they have a mixing function), CoinJoin-supporting non-custodial wallets, and Monero.

Not banning the wallet is one thing, but isn't actively promoting the coordinator more or less the same as promoting mixing?

This is an incredibly good point and I fully support it.

And, after what has happened with Jam... a certain service now seen as mixer and banned, although imho it was in a "gray" area (if we look at the rules in a strict manner), I feel that considering a CoinJoin coordinator as mixer is just fine (since gray area is no longer acceptable). However, keep in mind that my opinion on that matter may be biased.

[LoyceV]

And, after what has happened with Jam...

It's okay to mention the name:

Jambler

But there seems to be some confusion around promotion. It would be allowed to post even a positive review thread for ExampleMixer, just as long as you don't post the URL and you don't violate the other rules. Promotion is only disallowed in signatures, avatars, and profile-bios; not posts.

I feel that considering a CoinJoin coordinator as mixer is just fine (since gray area is no longer acceptable).

I wanted ask clarification on this in the "banned" topic, but after reading it again, it doesn't meet all criteria:

Something is considered a mixer if it meets all of these requirements:
 2. It is possible for the mixer to steal property passing through it.

I assume this exception was intentional for non-custodial privacy services.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Why not talk to the manager who might have contact with someone from Wassabi? I don't remember who ran the signature campaign for them. Probably it was icopress or yahoo. If they have contact with the person who has provided them the fund, you may want to ask them if Kruw is their staff or not. If Kruw is their staff and still promoting his own business, and if Wasabi does not have a problem with it, what else we could say about it? Speaking about personality, he is one of the worst trolls like BSV and Jvname.

[Pmalek]

This guy popped up from nowhere in 2023 and he is acting like representative of Wasabi wallet, but in reality he uses it only to promote his own coordinator.

To be fair, we don't know whether or not he is a Wasabi representative or contributor in some way, unless Wasabi confirmed him not to be. I think he said at one point that he is a contributor (whatever that means). It's true that he is only promoting his own service, which in his own eyes is the rightful successor of the blockchain analysis-supporting zkSNACKs.

Let's remember that we are talking about the same guy who was celebrating when another forum member announced he was leaving the forum because he was terminally ill.

He is a manipulative, vindictive, and malicious scumbag who put himself up on a pedestal and who reacts negatively to anyone who questions his bullshit.

Kruw is constantly making fake scam accusations to everyone who ever joined any mixing campaign in the past, and he didn't provide a single proof for his claims.

Careful now. You are close to joining BlackHatCoiner and myself as the forum's biggest scammers who stole money with "their" mixers. Considering that you also used to advertise mixing campaigns, it's about time you join our scammers club. This thread of yours is a big reason for that. Not only that, but by posting negatively about him, you are also an enemy of open-source software and privacy solutions.

[stompix]

Send a PM to nopara73, he was last active a week ago, I don't think there is anyone on wasabi team who should care more about this, but if he doesn't I don't think there is anything to be done about the topic itself.

As for the whole what kind of service it is drama I'm not going to touch it, every discussion on this ends really badly.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Kruw is constantly making fake scam accusations to everyone who ever joined any mixing campaign in the past, and he didn't provide a single proof for his claims.

A government spook, perhaps?  I'm sure there are plenty of them on this forum, though I don't know what kind of disinformation shit they're pulling, if any.  But even if Kruw isn't affiliated with any government, the fact that you started this thread and pointed out the nonsensical crap he's engaged in posting will ruin his reputation to the point where he'll have to use an alt account (if he's not already doing that).

And tagging everyone who was involved with mixer campaigns?  That's extreme.  People rent out their signature space and don't necessarily endorse what gets advertised there.  Plus there wasn't a problem with mixers for the longest time, so it's not as if sig campaigners were engaged in anything unlawful.  The bad ones got shut down after their misdeeds were revealed, so this is just a farce.

[dkbit98]

When there was a campaign on the forum they did not have an official representative active here, so now I don't think they will appear.

I think that member nopara has account in bitcointalk forum but he left Wasabi team a while ago.

I would not be surprised if this is his "strategy" to draw attention, hence advertise his service.

I have nothing against him advertising his shit, but he crossed some borders a long time ago.

I am under the impression that almost all new wasabi coordinators and monitoring services are a little more aggressive active than necessary

But none of them (except him) created Wasabi ANN topic and pretended to be one of the team members.
Last time I checked Kruw had only a few unimportant contributions to official Wasabi github, and I am almost sure that he pushed some people away from ever using Wasabi wallet.

Playing devil's advocate here: you can't really say he hijacked it, if he's the one who created it.

It would be like I created a topic about Bitcoin core, but I always talk about asic miner that I am selling and promoting, and accusing everyone else who sells miners as scammers.

Send a PM to nopara73, he was last active a week ago, I don't think there is anyone on wasabi team who should care more about this, but if he doesn't I don't think there is anything to be done about the topic itself.

Like I said before, I think he left Wasabi, but maybe he can notify other Wasabi team members.

A government spook, perhaps?

Maybe.
He also made false claims that he can magically make Bitcoin anonymous.

[FinneysTrueVision]

This is an incredibly good point and I fully support it.

And, after what has happened with Jam... a certain service now seen as mixer and banned, although imho it was in a "gray" area (if we look at the rules in a strict manner), I feel that considering a CoinJoin coordinator as mixer is just fine (since gray area is no longer acceptable). However, keep in mind that my opinion on that matter may be biased.

Jam is an interface for using JoinMarket and it is not banned. There is no rule against non-custodial coinjoin software. Maybe you meant Jambler, which was banned because it effectively functioned as a custodial mixing service. WabiSabi coordinators fall into the category of still being allowed and I have already seen several threads for alternative coordinators like gingerwallet.io and wasabicoordinator.io.

[DaveF]

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Kruw is constantly making fake scam accusations to everyone who ever joined any mixing campaign in the past, and he didn't provide a single proof for his claims.
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No scam accusation against me, I guess I don't rate in his book.

But, seriously to all does it matter at this point?
I think a lot of us are at fault by just leaving him neutral ratings. Perhaps a bunch of red trust and he will leave.

Shrug, not really that important since I don't think that many people are actually using wasabi anymore.

-Dave

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I think a lot of us are at fault by just leaving him neutral ratings. Perhaps a bunch of red trust and he will leave.

I don't think so, his trust profile is significant enough. The only thing that would really piss him off is a newbie warning flag against him, but as much as we don't like him, I don't think that would be a proper use of the flag.

[Pmalek]

No scam accusation against me, I guess I don't rate in his book.

You must call him out for the bullshit he says more often, otherwise you will never become a scammer who needs to return the money he stole to his victims.

I think a lot of us are at fault by just leaving him neutral ratings. Perhaps a bunch of red trust and he will leave.

I don't think a negative rating is ok for what he does. I left him a neutral rating a long time ago, but sadly deleted it by mistake. I was trying to click on the "Reference" button and clicked on "delete feedback" instead. I had to repost it, which is the only reason it's at the top of his trust ratings. I wish the forum had a "are you sure?" warning when you are deleting trust feedback.

Besides, I don't think he would have left even if all those neutral feedback were negative.

I don't think so, his trust profile is significant enough. The only thing that would really piss him off is a newbie warning flag against him, but as much as we don't like him, I don't think that would be a proper use of the flag.

Me neither. No one is losing money using Wasabi or his coordinator. I still would never touch anything connected to his name.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

No scam accusation against me, I guess I don't rate in his book.

You must call him out for the bullshit he says more often, otherwise you will never become a scammer who needs to return the money he stole to his victims.

You can call him out to become a liar too LOL

[NeuroticFish]

I have nothing against him advertising his shit, but he crossed some borders a long time ago.

The thing is that he seems to repeatedly "cross some borders" in the name of advertising his service.
And this makes it even more important to get him... somehow less visible, and when he is visible, his visibility should go together with a warning about what he is.

Jam is

You should have been reading the very next post after mine. I was talking about Jambler.

Besides, I don't think he would have left even if all those neutral feedback were negative.

Good point. The vast majority of the internet would see bitcointalk without having an account. And this means they see no feedback information.